Dead Black Eagle

[Barry]

Just an update on the post mortem following the sad death of my Verreaux Eagle.

First though, I just want to thank all of you who have sent your kind words and thoughts either publically or the countless numbers of you who did so by PM. Than you all very much, it was very helpfull.

The post mortem has shown nothing. The bird was physically in 100% condition muscularily, all organs in perfect condition and carrying no bacterial or virul infection. She had no wounds or lesions. In short, she looks like she should still be alive.

This leaves only poison. Samples are away now for toxicology and histapathology to discover what sort of poison and how it acted so quickly. Results are likely to take up to two weeks. When I have them I will post them.

Please let this be a warning to you all. When your bird feeds on the hill, it could be her last meal, especially if the feed was carrion or as in this case a deer gralloch, or the unborn calf and placenta associated with it.

Barry.

[NGuruve]

sorry to hear that barry thats a real shame i love verreux eagles such bad luck

[OwlsFoot]

sorry to hear about your loss mate hope you get sorted soon all the best

[Jackson]

sorry to hear that m8! great shame!!

[Tr1gger]

Very sorry to hear about that m8, hope it doesnt put u off hunting

[BillyBird]

real sorry about your loss too m8 always sad to hear these sort of things.

[Pitbull]

Im sorry but i think its the public that are more dangerous..:lol:

[Berkut]

I think we are getting away from the real reason for this thread. That is, Barry keeping us informed as to the death of his much treasured eagle,which he had owned for 10yrs or thereabouts. A situation which has caused him a great deal of distress.
Keep it real.

[Zam]

probally inhaled to many car fumes barry. have seen how close ur birds r perched to the road near ur center.

Until Barry has the toxicology and histo reports back, it is a mite insensitive to even infer the death of his treasured eagle may be down to the aviay/mews/block position. I am sure you did not mean your comment to sound the way it did.

I do not know Barry, but I gather he was devoted to this bird and is devastated by her death. A carelessly worded post can cause a lot of hurt.

[Barry]

Scot's falconer,

Some things to consider you may have thought of before you say silly things.

First of all the birds are never less than 30 yards from the road.

Second we are not open to the public as an attraction and are planning to screen the road so birds can't be seen. We chase people away who stop to look so business is out of the equation. They are moved around on the lawn to avoid over soiling in one spot to avoid fresh food being spoiled on old mutes.

Third, the bird had been away from here in the grampian mountins for six days when she died, perhaps fumes from grouse **** were a problem.

Fourth, do you think my birds are affected by fumes more than birds in city centre gardens?

Fifth, our birds are at the road end of the lawn only on days when we are experiencing our prevailing westerly wind which carries fumes away from the weathering lawn.

Sixth, the farm here has a muck midden, when the wind is from the west we put the birds as far as possible away from it to avoid presence of aspergillus spores.

Seventh, every bird is placed on the lawn to maximise sunshine exposure which is very important. In winter, when the sun is out we have to move birds around to chase the sun to maximise exposure by avoiding long shadow from the barn.

Eighth, as already reported the post mortem showed perfect health in all organs including lungs and air sacs, which if you had thought for a moment would have precluded your very thoughtless comment.

To all of those others on here who are curious about the cause of death I will post toxicology and hstapathology results when I have them.

Barry.

[StormRider]

Sorry to hear about your loss Barry. I hope you get answers that can put some form of closure on your ordeal. I would just ignore those who feel that they can aportion blame or cause via the internet. Chin up mate and lets hope you can move forward with new experiences if you decide to get a new bird.
STU

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Well put Barry. Scotts falconer do me a favour and "Go forth and multiply". Any body who would try having a go even if theres bad blood on a thread about someones hawk mysteriously passing away is a Pumper of the highest order. Hope you never have the same problem.

[Dougie Mc]

Barry have you had the toxidity report back yet( not sure about spelling)

Hybred

[Kennelre]

Condolences.....such a thing would have broken my heart. In my experience it is only possible to move on when you have the answer to Why?...I sincecerly hope you get it.

PS. Scots Falconer...there are therapeutic groups available to help and support those who are unable to access the central most important emotional response of empathy.

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Don't know you barry but have followed this incident on the forum since it happened........Please accept my sympathys... ignore the insensitive scots falconer .. people like him are two a penny people like you aint !

Mind you if he had said that to me under those circumstances i would have ripped his eyeballs out and ****ed in the sockets......

[Moses]

Just an update on the post mortem following the sad death of my Verreaux Eagle.

First though, I just want to thank all of you who have sent your kind words and thoughts either publically or the countless numbers of you who did so by PM. Than you all very much, it was very helpfull.

The post mortem has shown nothing. The bird was physically in 100% condition muscularily, all organs in perfect condition and carrying no bacterial or virul infection. She had no wounds or lesions. In short, she looks like she should still be alive.

This leaves only poison. Samples are away now for toxicology and histapathology to discover what sort of poison and how it acted so quickly. Results are likely to take up to two weeks. When I have them I will post them.

Please let this be a warning to you all. When your bird feeds on the hill, it could be her last meal, especially if the feed was carrion or as in this case a deer gralloch, or the unborn calf and placenta associated with it.

Barry.


so sorry to hear that barry, i hope u find out soon what caused her death

[Barry]

Thanks again for your words guys. The support from many has been very helpful during this trying experience.

I have not yet received the toxicology results. I am phoning for results every second day, but tests of wild birds and the search for avian flu has all the lab's carrying a backlog of work and I am sadly no longer being prioritised. The wildlife liason team in Tayside are now putting additional pressure on to get the results so with luck things will speed up.

I give my word that as soon as I have the results I will post them so we can all be aware of specific risk of toxins leaching into the environment and putting our birds and wildlife at risk.

Thanks again.

Barry.

[Bengal Hawk]

Deepest sympathy M8. Hope you get over it soon.
abs

[Barney]

Love that animation mate, sorry off topic:yawinkle:

[Kentish Falconry]

Posts removed from this thread Offensive. WARNING to Scots falconer given It's 3 and your out now and this is your second warning one more and it's Bye Bye