Private Messages and Passwords

[Kevin Massey]

Sparrow / Hawkmaster

Can you read Private messages? and also can you see what users have as there passwords?

t-i-a

kev

[Hawkmaster]

No none of that can be seen.
Read VBulletin's code of ethics on it.

Why can you read them on your forum?

[Tim Laycock]

No kin way!

[Scruff]

they can see ip adresses though, I saw a moderator on here post info in public about it once....not a good idea IMHO...bad form and against the DPA...just in case you didnt know. :-|

[Tim Laycock]

Stops muppets

[Kevin Massey]

no paul...not at all,

but there is a conversation knocking about that you can thats all....personaly i didnt think you could on here either, but u know me i'll ask ya straight...

thanks for that

kev

[Kevin Massey]

yes ip adresses can be seen...they can also be banned......

[Talon]

this was brought up once before.sometime last year and i thought it was said that moderaters or certan one.s ie hm and sparrow could read our so called private messages...please correct me if im wrong.

[Kevin Massey]

maybe i should have asked this via pm

[Hawkmaster]

Talon stuff like that is only started up to stir trouble amounst members, it is not true.:rolleyes:

[Osiris]

most passwords on forums etc. are encrypted in a database anyway.

I.P addresses are logged for security reasons as well as many other functions.

[Talon]

fair enough hm i stand corrected...wasnt trying to do any stirring my self m8..

[Hawkmaster]

I understand it was just a question.:D

[Kevin Massey]

i have said the reasons i have asked via pm to you h/m.

i didnt post this to cause sh trouble

[Tim Laycock]

I have recieved negative reputation for answering two questions on this thread :? :rolleyes:

[Kevin Massey]

how? why?

[ColdZero]

how do you know what your reputation is? if i look it says i have 11 but i can't read them.

sorry this is off topic

[Hawkmaster]

How can you tell?

[Kevin Massey]

How can you tell?

yea how :-~

[ColdZero]

you can click the little scales symbol on your own name and it tells you what you recieved for the certain thread. On use CP it tells you how many overall you had and any recent ones. But i only just noticed so i can't read them all..

[Saker-Clive]

Just click on the scales in your own post.....mine tells me I've got 38 reputaion points!!!!!

[Blaze]

Can you not know if its good/bad and who by?

[Gwaihir]

How can you tell in your own CP?

Just interested you understand.

Not for any ego massaging or anything:lol:

John M

[Scruff]

I think its right that the admin should have the IP info, for banning and control and such...but for a moderator to talk openly on a public forum about members' IP addresses is against the DPA..full stop!
It shouldnt have happened and I thought it was bad form is all.

[Hawkmaster]

How has it got anything to do with Data Protection? IP addresses are freely available to everyone that you communicate with, email etc.

[Tooker]

IP addresses can be obtained by anybody completely legally. They aren't personal information :)

[Scruff]

because you are giving personal information out to public that wasnt agreed to by member having given you this info in confidence. ...like passwords, the Ip is like a fingerprint to where a member is based. I'm a moderator on another site and I wouldn't dare give out confidential info like that. Do you think this is ok to do Hawkmaster? This worries me....I mean , if you dont think anything's wrong with giving that sort of info out, but it would upset me .

[Scruff]

you're jokin? anyone can have an Ip address? thars mad, its like giving away someone's home address!

[Tooker]

because you are giving personal information out to public that wasnt agreed to by member having given you this info in confidence. ...like passwords, the Ip is like a fingerprint to where a member is based. I'm a moderator on another site and I wouldn't dare give out confidential info like that. Do you think this is ok to do Hawkmaster? This worries me....I mean , if you dont think anything's wrong with giving that sort of info out, but it would upset me .

To get any useful information from an IP address you need to go to the ISP responsible for that address. Also, most people use dynamic IP addresses therefore their address changes each time they log on to the internet.
ISPs do not give out their customer details to any joe bloggs - they rarely give it to the police (one reason hax0rs get away with pretty much everything).

[Scruff]

oops sorry..my bad then... I was told an IP address was a pc address and was linked to the location ot the PC (ie: home) so a persons home could be discovered...not being paranoid or anything....but If I wanted my home address to be public..it would be. :oops:

[Hawkmaster]

Tooker is correct:supz:

82.153.100.31

Here see what you can do with this one Scruff:?:

[Scruff]

lol @ hawkmaster....Im not a hacker..I wouldn't even know what to do with that!

[Sean]

how come someone came into my profile and edited it? now i have a flag. no1 warned me, the same with my very first avator. dont really mind, just would like a warning lol

[GregMik]

Sean,
I think Sparrow is workin on the database. If something happened he may have restored it from a prior time. Please be patient with him till he gets it sorted.

Greg

[Hawkmaster]

Sean, we will put you on our list and everytime we update the site with tweaks, new modules or updates, we will warn you?

Anyone else want to be on it as we do not have many people on it now, lets see . . . ummm one:?:

[Saker-Clive]

If you have good firewalls and other protection; your pc, will tell you if someone has tried to corrupt or get into your pc; mine also tells me the country, town etc. of the 'violation' with the IP address and user...........

[Tim Laycock]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tooker
To get any useful information from an IP address you need to go to the ISP responsible for that address. Also, most people use dynamic IP addresses therefore their address changes each time they log on to the internet.
ISPs do not give out their customer details to any joe bloggs - they rarely give it to the police (one reason hax0rs get away with pretty much everything).

Since you wont answer by PM http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif
Why have you left me negative rep for this thread Tooker???????????????????

[Sean]

what u mean hm, im talking about people chaning my profile, i have never changed it ot say where im from and i dont see how the database could? the same when my first avator got changed to a fishing lure, how did the database know i liked fishing

[Hawkmaster]

So you never put in your location details?

BTW those signature pics are far too big.:rolleyes:

[Sean]

i never put in my location, except saying county antrim..
and i tried to skew the moving pic but moudnt move after skews, you know how i could resize it to the size of the other one

[Tooker]

Since you wont answer by PM http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif
Why have you left me negative rep for this thread Tooker???????????????????

I havent?

[Bash]

If you have good firewalls and other protection; your pc, will tell you if someone has tried to corrupt or get into your pc; mine also tells me the country, town etc. of the 'violation' with the IP address and user...........

And if that is Hawkmasters IP then he isn't and is as open as a whore's draw's :P :rolleyes: :supz:

[Tim Laycock]

I havent?

You are mistaken, unless my cp is telling lies :lol:
If it was not intended it matters not;)

[Zam]

Now I know it doesn't take much.........................but I'm confused!!

This thing about reputation points and clicking on your scales. I've done that......and, yes, it tells you how many reputation points you have. But how do you know if they are good or bad? What is the point of this? - as I have obviously missed it altogether:(

Can some enlightened soul explain? Sorry to go off topic here!

[Tim Laycock]

Go into your user cp, below the box with "New subscribed threads" there should be a box stating "latest reputation recieved"

Click in the corner and it will drop down and tell you what the deal is;)

[Kevin Massey]

How has it got anything to do with Data Protection? IP addresses are freely available to everyone that you communicate with, email etc.


correct !!!...you leave a trail on every site you visit

http://www.dnsstuff.com/

[Kevin Massey]

you're jokin? anyone can have an Ip address? thars mad, its like giving away someone's home address!

scruff in some cases this is correct..... you can even search this sites address and come up with who owns it ets :-)

[Kevin Massey]

WHOIS results for 82.153.100.31
Generated by www.DNSstuff.com
Location: United Kingdom

ARIN says that this IP belongs to RIPE; I'm looking it up there.


Using 0 day old cached answer (or, you can get fresh results).
Hiding E-mail address (you can get results with the E-mail address).

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[Hacker]

I just think you are all getting a bit nuerotic over this.
Ask yourself, who would bother to try and track your address down using your IP.
All you have to do is stick your name and town in an address/telephone number search finder and hey presto!

[Kevin Massey]

no one really...but it helps idebtify users with multiple user names for instance

[Kevin Massey]

no one really...but it helps idebtify users with multiple user names for instance


although the results from that search was quite interesting...i have seen it before

[Kornie]

Sean, I can't imagine anyof the mods would take the time to fill in your profile for you... it really isn't a big deal.