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[CJ#HaRrIs HAwKs RuLe#]

Hi im charlotte

I have not got a bird of prey :cry: but if or should i say when my parents give in I would like to get a harris hawk.
Iv'e heard they can be affecionate has anyone heard this or have examples??

Thanx

ps.dose anyone know any clubs (you don't need your own bird for or don't mind tag alongs lol!) near Hillingdon. The closest 1 i could find was surry?

[K8i]

hi charlotte welcome! you'll get some great information on here. also your not the only one without a bird lol, but i volenteer at a centre so i dont really need my own lol

atb
katie
:-D

[Liam Fensome]

welcome to the forum you will get a lot of help on here

[CJ#HaRrIs HAwKs RuLe#]

Thanks

thats a good idea!! my parents might think that to lol

[K8i]

i love it there's so much you can learn from volenteering at a bop centre:heart:

[NGuruve]

welcome to the forum hope you like it here and get all the info you need

[johnny abbott]

welcome to the forum

[Hacker]

Charlotte,
welcome to the forum.
In answer to your question, yes harris Hawks can show signs of affection or allegiance to you as they basically are a pack living bird.
As they get to know you and you integrate into their "Family group" you will see a change in their behaviour both through body posture and calls.
I Have flown hawks , accipiters and falcons, but Harrises have to be the only ones that are truley affectionate, other than an imprint!

[Harrisii]

welcome charleote.
hope you dont forget your user name eh??
why not just your initials??? could be easier for the rest of us old timers.
best wishes, enjoy the forum and hope you pick up plenty of info.

[Berkut]

Charlotte,
welcome to the forum.
In answer to your question, yes harris Hawks can show signs of affection or allegiance to you as they basically are a pack living bird.
As they get to know you and you integrate into their "Family group" you will see a change in their behaviour both through body posture and calls.
I Have flown hawks , accipiters and falcons, but Harrises have to be the only ones that are truley affectionate, other than an imprint!
Eagles show genuine affection.Not nitpicking,just thought worth a mention.Mine are very affectionate .

[Pogger]

Hello and welcome to the forum.

[CJ#HaRrIs HAwKs RuLe#]

Eagles show genuine affection.Not nitpicking,just thought worth a mention.Mine are very affectionate .

yer iv'e heard of this to the guy that told me said you can get a strong bond with an eagle as you are an equal predetor not a superiour.
as eagles had no predetors in the wild.

[Jackson]

hiya
welcome to the nut house!!!lol
i volunteer at i centre, my parents have said No No and NO to a bop, so im waiting till im settled down after uni tll i get mine!! im not sure of ant clubs near you, but if you find a centre near you i would recommend popping up to see them and maybe try volunteerinf - for me it was a great way to learn and is the next best thing to having your own bop!!! good luck!!
and im sure youll get loads of info on here!!!

[CJ#HaRrIs HAwKs RuLe#]

Thanx yer my parents will proberly think more of that idea but theres no harm in tryin:yawinkle:

[Jackson]

Thanx yer my parents will proberly think more of that idea but theres no harm in tryin:yawinkle:

then you can take them up there and show them how amazing the sport is and get them hooked too!! LOL

[As The Falcon Her Bells]

Hi
Welcome to the forum!
I would like to know what you meen by affectionate?
Harris hawks do get bonded with the person who fly them, but they are not in any way or form cuddly. They do not like to be tuched in any way or form and they can also be quite dangerous if you do a misstake with them.
If you dont mind me asking, why is it a bird of prey that you want?
When you ask if they are affectionate I get the feeling you want a unusuall pet, a bird of prey is not a pet and they need to be hunted idealy if you are going to keep them happy.
Dont take me wrong, i am not having a go at you but it would be a big misstake of you to try to get a bird without really knowing what you are getting your self into....

[Palmer]

[QUOTE=Hacker]
As they get to know you and you integrate into their "Family group" you will see a change in their behaviour both through body posture and calls.[QUOTE]

I heard that harrises change there call during their second year to a lower pitch sound. Is this true?

[CJ#HaRrIs HAwKs RuLe#]

Hi
Welcome to the forum!
I would like to know what you meen by affectionate?
Harris hawks do get bonded with the person who fly them, but they are not in any way or form cuddly. They do not like to be tuched in any way or form and they can also be quite dangerous if you do a misstake with them.
If you dont mind me asking, why is it a bird of prey that you want?
When you ask if they are affectionate I get the feeling you want a unusuall pet, a bird of prey is not a pet and they need to be hunted idealy if you are going to keep them happy.
Dont take me wrong, i am not having a go at you but it would be a big misstake of you to try to get a bird without really knowing what you are getting your self into....

no don't get me wrong Im not a Harry Potter wanna-be if i wanted somthing cuddly id get A parrot! I want to take up falconry.It be better for the bird if it got a bit more than just being able to hunt and fly,if the bird enjoys human company and comes back coz it wants to not coz its staving
(metaphor only!!) surely thats better for both bird and falconer.
By affectionate I mean the bird gets somthing more than just an easier life...companionship.

[Palmer]

To be honest i think harris hawks r effectionate birds.(Compared to other birds that is). If you wanted an "effectionate" bird maybe get an imprint. (but beware of the noice, it's bad anoth in non imprinted harrises.)
I wouldn't say the birds are starving at all even if being used as a "metaphor".
They are not starving they are at a weight where they would fly for food. If they were starving they wouldn't do anything apart from sit in a tree and die eventually.

[Palmer]

If you have a slightest intressed in your bird being effectionate then you should not buy a BOP as you or the bird may end up getting hurt.

[CJ#HaRrIs HAwKs RuLe#]

I'm not to fussed If i have an effectionate bird myself.sorry if thats how it sounded :oops: The social lives of hh isn't the only reason I have chosen them mostly because of avalibilty and how versitile they are.

ps didn't mean offence about the whole staved thing I would have put keen for food but if i deleate somthing then after i have to type the whole thing again coz it sort of....eats the next letter

[Palmer]

Dont worry about it.
But really if you do want effection from an animal a BOP isn't what you want to get.

[Hells99]

i love it there's so much you can learn from volenteering at a bop centre:heart:
Ditto! I too volunteer at a rescue centre and that way I get to fly lots of different birds and have people teaching me all the time - best of all worlds! I don't have any safe and nearby hunting lands and at the moment I feel I need to learn loads more before I could even think about having my own bird to hunt with. I am going to be fostering a bengal eagle owl soon when I have the aviary built, but he's a rescue bird and not really for flying. The intention is to handle him enough for him to enable me to do talks at schools, raise funds etc. You could see if your parents would allow you to do volunteering at a centre and gain some experience that way. Good luck and HAVE FUN!!

Helen