lost gyr/saker

[Afshimo]

hey, shiro's gone off on one. The wind picked him up and last seen heading towards lostock hall - south. Wearing jerros telemetry. Orange flying jesses. Will come to lure or fish. Should be pretty hungry again.

Thanks

Hannah

back out to look for him....

[BFC 007]

good luck hannah

[UKJay74]

hannah heres hoping shiro comes back :D
what frequency telem is he bird on??

[Kentish Falconry]

Hope you get him back OK Hannah it looks like it's going to be pretty cold tonight.
Good luck with the search
Terry

[Afshimo]

thanks, not been found yet. Its 173 jerros sytem.

[Perlin2006]

good luck and keep serching

[K8i]

dont woory hannah you'll get him back

hes a good little bird lol

good luck anyway tho

katie

[Hacker]

Sorry to hear that Hannah.
Just hope you get him back in the morning.
Best luck

[RabbitHawker]

Good luck for tomorrow, I've covered my pond just in case he like KOI!!

[UKJay74]

thanks, not been found yet. Its 173 jerros sytem.
hannah you got the frequuency of the telem?? will keep it looking out :D have jerrross sat here

[Stevie]

hannah,

hope you get him back ok.

steve.

[Afshimo]

thanks again. Informed IBR and other ppl via phone.

lol @ rabbit hawker. He's never seen a koi, will give him somethin to think about. Im worried cus its cold outside and he;s gona be goodness knows where. grr.

sry UKjay, dont know which frequency he's on.

thanks

[Tim Laycock]

You not getting a signal Hannah?

[Afshimo]

no. Did search all around. Had a signal for abit, followed but it went again. Couldnt pick it up.

[Afshimo]

well, nice to see some dont bother researching properly.

first time i've lost my bird. Just finding out what its like.

so just **** off u ******. i got no time for you.

[MattSpar]

not trying to be mean or anything, but havent u lost this one b4. can u not train birds properly! i think u might need a refresher course.

That's uncalled for if you ask me. We all risk losing birds.

Good luck Hannah.

[K8i]

leave her alone!!!!!:evil:

good luck hannah!!!!!

give me a shout if ya need me!

[W Jenkins]

All the best Hanna stay confident you will get him back.

Wullie

[Jackson]

Best of Luck hannah!!!! hope you get him back soon!!!!! best of luck!!!

[Peregrine1]

is it worth a listen round Derby let me know the freq ect I will have a check
Regards
Colin
Ps there is more than a few Morons ( did'nt take long to work that out!) on here keep you're chin up! and hopefully a safe return

[Jackson]

not trying to be mean or anything, but havent u lost this one b4. can u not train birds properly! i think u might need a refresher course.

wahoo - thats kinda mean mate, bops do go off, some more than other and it was windy!!!

[Palmer]

Good luck hannah you will get him back soon!:goodman:

We don't need no negative comments please!
I expect you have lost your birds more than once!
What do you mean "not trying to be mean" how is that not mean lol.

[W Jenkins]

Agree Matspar leave well alone what a sh**y reply to a fellow falconer(i take it he has never lost a bird but hey who,s perfecr so just remember this thread Hanna(for short)

Wullie

[Adam Barrett]

keep your chin up hannah im sure you'll get him back :-)

[BFC 007]

well, nice to see some dont bother researching properly.

first time i've lost my bird. Just finding out what its like.

so just **** off u ******. i got no time for you.



:supz: :supz: :supz:
you tell him Hannah

[Goldie]

well i hope you get him back hannah, more for the birds sake than anything. nobody likes to see another lose there bird as invariably its life is at stake but you at the very least should know the frequency the tranny is on, that i am afraid is shoddy practice.

all the best tomorrow

[Palmer]

:prayer: :snipe:

He'll be shittin it

[Afshimo]

all i was told that it was on 173. I thought then that that was it. sorry if no-one told me there was more then that. I thought the 10channel telem only had smaller frequency and mine was just 173. Jerros sytem.

thx everyone else

Han

[Chris S]

good luck hannah where abouts are you?and ignore the ******s on here if they have never lost a bird then they cant fly much

[Puzo]

You should maybe try driveing around where it was last seen with a mag mount arial on the receiver. It doen't want to be left out on the ground in this cold if you can avoid it. Some-times when the Tx arial is in a direct line towards or away from you, you can't get a signal, especialy when the bird is low down. I'm sure you'le get it back eventualy. It's all part of the fun, charactor building! One question does your bird like fish?

[Cyclone]

good look with gettin your bird back! and ingore the random d**kh**ds on here because im sure everyone has lost a bird before wheather its permently or tempory
good luck!!!!
cyclone

[Afshimo]

i havnt got a mag mount, but im liking the idea alot.

as far as i know shiro has never even seen a fish so eating would be a problem lol.

thx again

Hannah

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Does anybody know if a field 173 Marshall receiver will pick up this transmitter?

[Barbary Boy]

ive known a couple of guys around here who when they lost there bird and had tried everything else, hired a micro light to take them up, great reception for the telemetry and it worked on both occasions, not as dear as you might think either?

[MattSpar]

One question does your bird like fish?

I concluded Hannah really meant to type "fist."

[Puzo]

Post says will come to a lure or a fish ?
Ah fist do I feel stupid or what,"durr"

[Afshimo]

i'd love to do that BB, but i;d need someone to grab the reciever - i'd be grippin onto my seat to much lol. who would i need to contact? where can i go to do that?

o rite! sorry about the fish thing! wondered why ppl asked me about fish! i was gettin confused! sorry!

thx K, I'll e-mail the maker about the exact frequency as well.

Thx again

[Pitbull]

all i was told that it was on 173. I thought then that that was it. sorry if no-one told me there was more then that. I thought the 10channel telem only had smaller frequency and mine was just 173. Jerros sytem.

thx everyone else

Han


never used the jeros telem but our biotrack has a tune knob 1-10. where abouts are you gettin the signal. that then tells you the transmiter is 173.? ....173.1? 173.2? etc etc then you can finely tune it ineven finer. so what was the last frequency that you got a signal at.

I hope I got this right as I have never had to use mine really but do track him occasionally to see if it still works.

[James_Falconry1]

not trying to be mean or anything, but havent u lost this one b4. can u not train birds properly! i think u might need a refresher course.

Thats a bit harsh ent it. People can loose a bird more than once, if she actuall has lost it before.

You saying you have never ever lost a bird or lost one more than once in its lifetime.

[Saker-Clive]

never used the jeros telem but our biotrack has a tune knob 1-10. where abouts are you gettin the signal. that then tells you the transmiter is 173.? ....173.1? 173.2? etc etc then you can finely tune it ineven finer. so what was the last frequency that you got a signal at.

I hope I got this right as I have never had to use mine really but do track him occasionally to see if it still works.

Pitbull, the 1-10 is the tuning level, the channels are either 1-6 or 1-3 depending on what modle you have. It's the chanel no. that determins the frequency...................hth

[Pitbull]

Pitbull, the 1-10 is the tuning level, the channels are either 1-6 or 1-3 depending on what modle you have. It's the chanel no. that determins the frequency...................hth


cheers ss.

[Johnny Abbott]

not trying to be mean or anything, but havent u lost this one b4. can u not train birds properly! i think u might need a refresher course.i have said this before but it must be hard to be perfect:oops:

[BlackShaheen1]

not trying to be mean or anything, but havent u lost this one b4. can u not train birds properly! i think u might need a refresher course.
thats not how it works p***k .lets try to help the poor girl first and formost she loves tha bird its a typical blown down wind situation .help is what is needed not critasicm .when she has the bird back then and only then we can rip the **** good look hanna .first light go to where you let the bird go find a high spot and start there if no signel start driveing about amile in all directions of your start of point and increse every time obout the same i think your telem should cover about a mile and a halfdown wind first .

[OwlsFoot]

Best Of Luck Han Keep Us Informed Hope It Comes Up Well For You And It Comes Back Safe

[UKJay's Nursey]

not trying to be mean or anything, but havent u lost this one b4. can u not train birds properly! i think u might need a refresher course.

thats not how it works p***k .lets try to help the poor girl first and formost she loves tha bird its a typical blown down wind situation .help is what is needed not critasicm .when she has the bird back then and only then we can rip the **** good look hanna .first light go to where you let the bird go find a high spot and start there if no signel start driveing about amile in all directions of your start of point and increse every time obout the same i think your telem should cover about a mile and a halfdown wind first .

well said BS i know the feeling of blown down wind situ only takes one rogue gust and whoosh their off, and i can sympathise with what hannah is going through, even though it was jays bird i was almost in tears worrying about him..

Hannah best of luck hun, dont give up hope you will get him back, and though it will be hard try and make sure you grab some sleep & rest at night you dont realise till afterwards how much losing a bird takes outta ya.

[BrianM]

not trying to be mean or anything, but havent u lost this one b4. can u not train birds properly! i think u might need a refresher course.


nice,,,,, very smooth there you doofus

[Barbary Boy]

not trying to be mean or anything, but havent u lost this one b4. can u not train birds properly! i think u might need a refresher course.
i thought i was the forums token ******

[Red-Devil]

i thought i was the forums token ******
you are m8

[Peregrine1]

you are m8
and I thought it was just me :o)
Regards
Colin

[Biarmicus]

hey, shiro's gone off on one. The wind picked him up and last seen heading towards lostock hall - south. Wearing jerros telemetry. Orange flying jesses. Will come to lure or fish. Should be pretty hungry again.

Thanks

Hannah

back out to look for him....


Sorry to hear about Shiro, hope you find him soon. :sad:
Good Luck,


Brittney

[Zam]

not trying to be mean or anything, but havent u lost this one b4. can u not train birds properly! i think u might need a refresher course.


Bulls**t!!

Of course you "meant to be mean". As you so often are in your asinine posts - remember your contemptible post to Barry re: the death of his Black eagle?

You are an objectionable twerp. You are a student and member of Club 17. How old are you? How many birds have you trained/flown? Not that I give a damn.
Bottom feeder.

Go away and grow up.

Hannah - all the best. Sure you will find him safe and well:grin:

[Kornie]

Hannah, sorry to here about the falcon, that post was dealt with the way it should have been.

Hope you find him,

Alex.

[The Ninja]

Hannah, sorry to here about the falcon, that post was dealt with the way it should have been.

Hope you find him,

Alex.


ahhh, that explains it, I wondered what had happened to it, I had just typed in a reply hit send & got an error message. (good modding btw)

Hannah, hope you find him soon.

;-)

[Gos212]

Bulls**t!!

Of course you "meant to be mean". As you so often are in your asinine posts - remember your contemptible post to Barry re: the death of his Black eagle?

You are an objectionable twerp. You are a student and member of Club 17. How old are you? How many birds have you trained/flown? Not that I give a damn.
Bottom feeder.

Go away and grow up.

Hannah - all the best. Sure you will find him safe and well:grin:

Read another post on this little ars* that says he's 15.

Needs a lesson in "if you havnt anythin good to say, shut the f**k up" !

You'll have him back soon Hannah

[Dagash]

Best of luck and Inshalla , hopefully u'll will get him back:D

[Osiris]

Best of luck in finding Shilo Hannah. I know how much you love that bird. I hope you find him today!! I know how it feels!! Just don't give up babe!

All the best!

j

[K8i]

don't worry you'll get him back soon:)

keep us all updated

katie :D

[KevGem1]

hi hannah long time no speak sorry to here about shiro hope you get him back (soon) and take no notice of the d***heads that havent got anything better to do than to poke criticism at people.sorry i cant be much more help as i am on 216 good luck hannah KEV

[OutFlying]

Jerross system is a 400mhz range system - you'll need another Jerross system to aid you in tracking.

When you get the falcon back - throw the system in the bin.

Good luck in finding him.

Yours Jim.

[Wilfred]

:supz: :supz: :supz:
you tell him Hannah


I also got to respond here to the remark of ScottishFalconer. It is not only mean but also very stupid remark. The falconers being longer on this forum here all know Hannah is doing great in falconry. And flying a falcon for that long not loosing them normally is something to be proud of. Even experienced falconers WILL loose a falcon once and a while especially when it is windy. Besides, no falconer who looses a falcon is waiting for the kind of rediculous remark made by ScottishFalconer here.

Wish you lots of succes finding back the falcon Hannah. In case you did not. And normally you will surely get him back in most cases (when wearing the name tags).

Kind regards,

Wilfred

[Moses]

hannah just noticed this thread, i hope u find her soon and forget scotsfalconer the wee kid is getting to big for his boots as if he created falconry, he has been posting alot of snidey remarks lately , he was a kind lad one time he hated the prima donna's of the forum and he has a similiar kind of attitude now

a shame

[FlameHairedFalconer]

Hannah - Hope you get Shiro back soon

Got everything crossed for you :heart: Wish I was closer to help out.

FHF xxx

[Cyclone]

i cant believe youve even got the guts to say that scotsfalconer m8,because every one looses a bird once weather like i said permentley or just temporary but soz mate because you must think your bloody perfect
cyclone

[WelsHawker]

thanks, not been found yet. Its 173 jerros sytem.

Hi Hannah , I think the jerros systems are on 418Mhz

[Red-Devil]

i thought i was the forums token ******
only jockin yo !!!!!any news hannah ,keep at if not .and good luck. you will get him back iam sure

[Afshimo]

hiya,

had a real good nosey about. On top of the hill's to see if we can get a signal, back into the flying field just to see if he has come back and and done 15m radius of where i lost him.

all the local farmers have my number, all the local vets, radio, papers and even a few pet shop ppl (u never know)

but atm he's either gone way out or put up in a real tight spot where i cant see him or he's not responding to the lure. I hope he's made a kill for tonights sake.

thanks again everybody. Still hopin he comes back.

Han

[PeregrinesUK]

hope you find him Hannah, where was the transmitter mounted ? if it was on his leg he may of bit off the arial and you will need to get very close before you get a good reading. .... i would seriously have a think about the microlight option i doubt youd even get charged its sunday lots of guys will be flying and im sure theyd love to help you out do a search on the net for your local field give them a call and see

good look mike

[Afshimo]

yeah, i'll do a search now. there's a chesire microlight place, one in manchester and west lancashire.

the barton aerodome sounds the best, will e-mail them. Dont mind paying to have a look around. Just sending an e-mail now.

Thanks again!

Han

[Falconry Equipment International]

Hannah , not much more I can offer in support than others have posted, & of course I wish you all the fvery best in getting him back.Please do not take this post as any sort of criticism unlike other mean hearted posts, I do hope you'll take this the right way and might be of help.
I beleive you have better weather up there this last week than down here in the east midlands although through bitter past experience ( have lost 2 falcons for good , 1 saker when i was your age and a pere about 5 yrs ago) most of my best falcons and hawks have been out at least a one night.
Due to weather conditions/ reports down here I have taken the decision to ground my falcons fro the last week & if it is of help to listers and is not seen as arrogant or being snide, I would be happy to post on a thread about recovering lost hawks/ not losing them in the fisrt place .
Keep looking Hanna:heart: keep a good heart, and be tenacious please do not give up hope , my thoughts are with you ( please pm me if you think I can be of direct help) HTH ATB J

[Afshimo]

thanks SJ. Never known wind to be such a big problem for flying. I knew that something would happen sometime, but it's not a nice feeling. Then again i am learning loads what ppl or books dont say.

I thought the wind had died down but i got the horrible wrong. I wont quit looking. I miss him too much.

thx again

[Falconry Equipment International]

No worries hannah just know what your feeling at the mo:( no one is perfect and even after 35 odd yrs , when I lost the Pere for good ( james -falconry thingy was with me) various factors that I had not calculted came in to play including the wind suddenly gusting etc . HTH as a I say keep a stron heart keep looking , try local radio tv etc as well & most a]of all keep ya chin up ATB J

[Jackson]

Any news???
thoughts are with you hannah!!! and got my fingers crosed!!!

[GameHawker]

Hannah, keep looking don't give up hope and do yourself a favour fly with two transmitters and get a better system and Know your frequency so people can help in the future.

Regards Mark

[Moritz]

Hi Hannah,
I hope you find him and get him back safe. I wish I could help you find him.

Regards

Moritz

[Pogger]

Wishing you good luck tracking him down Hannah. Don't give up hope and don't be too hard on yourself either. Most of us have been in your situation and it's an awful feeling and we know what you're going through. Just hang on in there and if you need help just ask.

[James_Falconry1]

Hows the search gon Han.

[GosFlyer]

good luck with the search hannah, only the good birds get lost ones with no bottle dont, take no notice of the wee scotch child.:rolleyes:

[As The Falcon Her Bells]

Hi Hannah
Im so sorry to hear about Shiro!! I know the feeling and its so devastating, I lost my female g/s over two nights 2 years ago, and I was absolutely sh***ing myself!!!
I lost a male saker once and he was picked up 2 weeks (!) later, but this was in the summer.
However, my best friend has flown the same parent reard red tail for 7 years. She lost him in moult of the block one day, he was pig fat.......
Obviously no telemetry or bells as he was moulting, she spend days looking but he was gone.
8 month later her two children came walking back from the bus stop, they saw this bird following them in the distance, when they came home it landed in the tree in the garden, they phoned their mum and told her that her redtail was back...
She did not belive them but hurried home, and there he was, sat in a tree, she threw a chick on the floor on a string, he came straight down for it, she then crawled closer as he was eating and could pick him up!!
She still got him today!!
So dont worrie, they do mostely get back to you.
If there is anything we can do just phone us (you have the number on the website), we are out of the country to Friday, and hopefully you will have him back by then, if not, please phone us
I really hope and wish you find him
ATB
Sara

[Sprout]

Any news? What direction was the prevailing wind when you lost him? Will keep an eye and ear open this way but don't have 173

[Kentish Falconry]

Have you got any news yet Hannah? Did you get a signal anywhere today?
I hope you find him soon or someone picks him up and informs the IBR this is normally what happens.
Best of luck I am sure he will turn up
ATB
Terry

[Gwaihir]

Hi Hannah

Hope he turns up soon

Dont pay any attention to teeewaaaatttsss like scotsfalconer!

Good luck sweet

John M

[Afshimo]

hiya,

thanks again everyone :smile:

no signal - nothing. Have checked the flying field and around about.

still hoping to get up in a microlight asap if poss, wating for an e-mail. will be in manchester - the place their if they let me.

loads of ppl know and are keeping a look out.

worried sick tonight, it's freezing, i hope he's made a kill an sittin in a tree nice an warm.

please tell everyone u know that he's out and keep a look out.

thanks for the kind words, really appreciated. :heart:

Han

[Rocky]

Don't give up Hannah,i've crossed my fingers and toes for you
Mel

[GameHawker]

Hannah what area did you lose him in I have got a few mates that live in cheshire will get them to keep an eye out too. What does he take.

Mark

[Afshimo]

thx rocky

GH: i lost him near new longton village, heading S with wind, but winds did change to go SW.

I use a bare lure(no wings), one with a hole in the middle (polo lures) to tempt him shout ho and stick a nice large chick in as he see's them better and really loves his chick. Might be better called to a lady? or a younger person lol.

thanks Mark

[Barbary Boy]

HANNAH never give up! i had a pereXsaker out for 11 nights in 1976 well before telemetry was common if it even existed, and i got her back after giving up all hope. there is still plenty of time keep going pet!

[OutFlying]

Hannah,
Has he been entered ?

Jim.

[Puzo]

Don't give up! There can't be many falconers, & I stress the word falconers who can say they've never lost a bird. All be it temporarily. I too flew them before the advent of telemetry & found crows an invaluable help in recovering a lost hawk. The batterys in your Tx should last a week so just keep driving round in outward spirals until you get a signal. It's surprising how far they can travel. Good luck!

[Big JoeJoe]

Hi Hannah Hope you find your falcon good luck tomorrow I have and old jerros reciever you can use but you would have to come and collect it as I'm back at work tomorrow. Two are better than one.

cheers Joe

[Adam Barrett]

Did we ever find out what frequency it was?

Im on 173 and wouldnt mind having a quick drive around if its of any use as im not to far away.

Yours

Adam

[OutFlying]

jerross is 400+ mhz system

[Afshimo]

thx BB and Puzo. I dont want to give up.

Jim - not been entered but he knows anythin that flaps in usually good eating and he has chased partrige. I recon he has got the knowlage in him to chase and hopefully kill.

BJJ - thank v much! we will try and come your way, will PM just to check where u r and what time is best.

thanks very much,

Han

[OutFlying]

Keep looking Hannah,
I know of people getting their hawk back 2 years later, never give up hope...........

Jim.

[Liam Hay]

good luck hannah hope fully he turns up soon

[ScotsFalconer]

ok i thought id make a public apolopy to hannah. i was in a really ****y mood when i wrote the reply. i am sorry. i do hope you find the bird. sorry

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Well done for taking it on the chin. THINK before posting next time as you realy did get a lot of peoples backs up. Hence the state of your reputation bar!

[Dave G]

hi hannah hope you find your falcon dont give up and always look out for those crows and magpies flocking around something as this is a big give away while out looking ??? good luck chin up and dont give up

[Osiris]

Nice one ScotsFalconer

Again Hannah, all the best in finding Shilo. Thoughts are with u

[K8i]

any news?

atb

kate

[Kentish Falconry]

ok i thought id make a public apolopy to hannah. i was in a really ****y mood when i wrote the reply. i am sorry. i do hope you find the bird. sorry
ScotsFalconer........It is very nice of you to appologise to Hannah at this late date and I am sure she will appreciate it. However no matter what mood you are in you should think twice about making comments like that before you post them.
As I understand it you are 15 years old and never flown or trained a bird yourself, you have no experiance of what Hannah was going through and the rest of the Forum members were all concerned about the incident and still are this happens to us all at one time or another. So in future please engage your brain before you put you Mouth or in this case fingers into gear.
Terry

[MickeyDredd]

As I understand it you are 15 years old and never flown or trained a bird yourself

Terry

I believe he flies a lanner.

[Kentish Falconry]

Terry

I believe he flies a lanner.

Hi M8 then he should have thought even more about what he said then, if the boot was on the other foot how would he have felt. Sorry M8 he should not have said anything like that to Hannah and I appreciate his appology but none the less it was a big mistake. I do not slag someone off just because I am in a bad mood.
The matter is now closed as far as I am concerned. All we have to worry about now is giving any moral support or physical help to Hannah that we can and just hope she gets her bird back safely
Terry

[Claire]

when he loses a bird he will know how it feels, and it will of course happen one day, any negative comments at a time like that are uncalled for. I'm pretty sure hannah is spending every possible moment looking for shiro, and I know when I lost my kes I also couldn't sleep. Its a horrible time emotionally physicly and mentally exhausting, I hope you find him soon hannah I'm sure you will soon get a call from the IBR, My kes was pestering old ladies hoping they would take her home lol

[MickeyDredd]

Terry

Indeed!

I was merely pointing out your misunderstanding. :wink:

[UKJay74]

Hannah any news on shiro ??? Fingers and everything crossed here for you heres hoping shiros home soon Good luck

[Afshimo]

thx for the apoology scots falconer

no sign, again the flying field, telem out and lures, watching for crows and maggies, told a few more ppl and put my number out, had a nother good look through lostock hall and ferther south, but more west.

ringing the air field tonight, or tomorrow if no reply. Still going to give the microlight idea a go if i can, no signal at all anywhere close so he mush be in a blint spot or very far away.

miss me little grumpy sod a good bit, no one bobbin heads at me in the morning or the usual chup when he's at flying weight. His mews is clean, ready and waiting though. Hope he comes back soon or he gets spotted.

Thanks again everyone, i really appreicate the help and kind words.

ATB

Han

[Jackson]

Good Luck Hannah - Thoughts Are With You And Still Got Everything Crossed!!!

[OutFlying]

What's the battery life on a Jerross tx, I think the plane will be a waste of money - just keep looking.

Jim.

[Adam Barrett]

Got to agree with jim about the plane-but if you think it would help.

Did you have new batteries in the transmitter they use the 1/3 N litium batteries so i should imagine the transimitter would have atleast five days left.

He will turn up hannah-:-)
Keep posative.

ATB

Adam

[HarrisHawk.1.]

any news on your bird yet hannah fingers crossed also ibr very good we lost a bird last year and they were on the phone in a couple of days, and had it safe at an animals in distress sanctuary so stay positive

[Mick]

keep your head up hannah you will find your bird soon

[Cyclone]

keep looking and good look!...
cyclone

[UKJay74]

hannah any news regards the microlight?? In my opinion with a jeross system and my memory of your area it would be an ideal solution as the jeross telemetry aint that crash hot when low to the ground and anything that can give you a better reception has to be worth it..

wehn psycho went if i could have got away with it and wouldnt have had interference i would have got up the local transmitter tower but had to think properly and legally

[Afshimo]

microlight on fri/sat. Batteries cud b dead by then, but its worth a go.

goin 2 becon fell now. c u l8r,

thx everyone!

[Jackson]

Good Luck

[Palmer]

Hows it going hannah.
Everything crossed for you.
Good luck!!!!:goodman:

[Afshimo]

hey,

went to beacon fell, managed to get a signal in the car park, very loud and audible bleep so that was great. Could pin-point a direction but guess who forgot the map... :whoops:

so we went down a bit and kept on checking for the signal, lost it soon as we neared normal lvl and then only picked it up on a bridge near myerscough.

but we got the map out now, got our area to check and low points that could hide the tx. thats tomorrow.

Hopefully we can move the date for the microlight a day forward, thu if poss, so the battery should still be running by then.

Looking more hopefull, acricle in the post (lancashire evening) tomorrow with my an shi's pic and radio lancashire has agreeed to put shi's info out regular.

sry for any more mistakes but im rushing cus im starvin - only just got in. lol. want my pancakes!!!!!!

thanks v much HH and amazon!

[Falconry Equipment International]

keep going hannah sounds positive good luck tomorrow ATB J

[Saker-Clive]

Hannah, if it were me looking for mine again; I would get back out a little later to get an exact location, then get there again just before sun up with plenty of food and wait.
Good luck.

[Shaun Byrne]

Hannah, you must have an understanding school:supz: :wink:

[Whistler6752]

Hi,Hannah, I agree with saker sucker, good advice, been following thread like a soap opera, whole family is rooting for you, we're really hoping for a good outcome, best of possible luck, hopefully good news soon. You can do it!

[BFC 007]

:supz:
go get him Hannah

[Afshimo]

hiya,

thanks SS, will try that. Problem is the only place high enough to actually get a signal is from beacon fell. But we know a few very tall building that we can get on to get en exact location. But yeah, still get my chicks out everyday and hoping tomorrow we can make more progress finding my bird!

Hawka - if they wernt understanding before they will be soon lol. Most of them know i have birds so they understand vaugely whats going on.

thanks again, its great having ppl supporting you and helping out.

Han

[Palmer]

Good luck hannah!:goodman:

[Jackson]

fab news hannah - me too have been watching this thread more than i watch eastenders!!! still got my fingers crossed with you!! and all down here are rooting for you too!! Good luck!!!
sarah
p.s. your school is mad (in a good way) - my school would kill me!!! LOL

[UKJay74]

great news on getting the signal on higher ground hannah heres hoping you can manage to pinpoint tomorrow or when you can get airbourne..

Good luck hun keep it up :supz: :supz:

[Tim Laycock]

Glad you have had a signal Hannah, Thats encouraging.
I hope you get him back soon.

[Afshimo]

hiya,

thx amazon, ukJay and BB!

yeah its soo quiet in the mews lol. Miss goin out an cleaning the mews - must be gettin bad.

but i'm hopn if we get a good high point close enough we should be seein shiro by the weekend.

[Falcon911]

Hi Hannah,

Sorry if someone has already mentioned this but have you been out at night trying for a signal?
It would be good to have a car antenna so you can cover a very large area. Anyone close by to lend her one?

Hope you get a result soon
Rgds
Andy

[Tim Laycock]

Hannah
Try to det a direction from two different high points, then you can draw the directions out on your map.
Where the lines cross gives you an area to start working in.

[Jackson]

Hannah
Try to det a direction from two different high points, then you can draw the directions out on your map.
Where the lines cross gives you an area to start working in.

nice advice there bb!!! il remember that for my bop!!! very neat!!

[UKJay's Nursey]

agree with BB its very encouraging when you get a signal

hope he is back with you soon hun

[Falconry Equipment International]

Hannah, if it were me looking for mine again; I would get back out a little later to get an exact location, then get there again just before sun up with plenty of food and wait.
Good luck.
hannah use this and BB 's advice + try to get signals from high points( think of whole point in microlight ect) HTH J good luck tomorrow

[Sprout]

Good luck tomorrow. What area were you getting the signal from?

[ScotsFalconer]

ScotsFalconer........It is very nice of you to appologise to Hannah at this late date and I am sure she will appreciate it. However no matter what mood you are in you should think twice about making comments like that before you post them.
As I understand it you are 15 years old and never flown or trained a bird yourself, you have no experiance of what Hannah was going through and the rest of the Forum members were all concerned about the incident and still are this happens to us all at one time or another. So in future please engage your brain before you put you Mouth or in this case fingers into gear.
Terry

just to clear things i am 16 and i have been doing falconry for 5 years

[BrianM]

then you should know better

[ScotsFalconer]

hey everyone has their ups and down. i have said i was sorry. i understand the comment was un-needed. i have lost the occasional bird and found them again. i am sorry for wat i said i was not at all my self. had a really ****y day at school. i do hope she finds her falcon and if i lived local to her i would offer my help.

[Jackson]

any news hannha?? i do hope youve had some luck!!

[Hobby]

hey everyone has their ups and down. i have said i was sorry. i understand the comment was un-needed. i have lost the occasional bird and found them again. i am sorry for wat i said i was not at all my self. had a really ****y day at school. i do hope she finds her falcon and if i lived local to her i would offer my help.
BAD DAY AT SCHOOL-WAIT TILL YOU GET A JOB, MORTGAGE,A WIFE AND KIDS!:-D

[Jackson]

BAD DAY AT SCHOOL-WAIT TILL YOU GET A JOB, MORTGAGE,A WIFE AND KIDS!:-D

or husband!!!

[Hobby]

or husband!!!
TRUE.

[Murph]

Sorry to hear that you lost your saker! Im sure you will catch up with her/him soon.

Good Luck

Murph

[Saker-Mad]

hi hannah sorry to hear that ur gyr/saker has gone off, i fly 2 saker falcons and oneday one of them flew off after a crow and that was the last i saw of him, until 3 months later when out of the blue i had a phone call of a bloke saying that he thinks my bird is in his back garden so i went around and there he was just sat there looking at me, so you see you WILL GET him back sooner or later.

GOOD LUCK
saker-mad:D
(ps: i am only 17 and would not make any sort of comment to anyone about losing there bird)

[Afshimo]

hiya,

got out of school early (only missed PSE - boring - parenting and stuff lol)

so we went to beacon fell again, found the signal and worked our way back down, dad found more high spots with a signal. Cut a long story short we tracked a phone mast for the full 5 hours. Horrid thing was it gave out the exact same bleep like the tx.

most unhappy to say the least. So with the chatter cut from that, we have no signal at all.

but keeping optomistic, cus he was on the radio today, papers tomorrw for def and poss northwest tonight if they e-mail me back. might get a sighting sooner or later.

hope your all havin good st davids day!

[Falconry Equipment International]

hannah your doing a really well considering you cant easily bunk off schooletc etc , keep your chin up , keep then pressure on authorities/ press/ TV etc the more the mnerrier Hope shiro's back soon ATB
J

[Goose]

Hey Hannah, I was in your shoes last December. My Kally was out for four very long days & nights......but she came back.
Does he wear your telephone numbers?
www.indentitag.co.uk (http://www.indentitag.co.uk)

Good Luck

Goose

[Jackson]

keep your chin up hannah!!! your doing well and all you can!!! keep searching and dont give up - weekend soon so you wont have to worry bout missing school!!! wish i could do more to help!
all the best
sarah

[Afshimo]

Paper when out today!

heard a postitive sigting, lady said she was certain it was the same bird. so off to ribbleton tomorrw, bout 8mile from where i lost him - north. Buts thats great, the paper, lancashire evening post done an article, not on internet yet.

but he's getting mentioned on the radio, there's a board by the shop saying something (forgot now lol) But we had 8 or so call's and sighting. one in the lake district!

But things looking up. :)

thanks!

Han

[Jackson]

Sounds promising then!!! good luck for tommow!!

[Stevie]

hi hannah
hope the newspaper gets some positive results.

when me gos was out got alot of good info and sightins
but also every nutter on the phone as well.


regards

steve......

[Afshimo]

OMG! the phone hasnt stopped ringing all night!!!! sat here with it as my whole family is fed up on the block of plastic that rings so often! Like a call centre, its absolute crazy!!

Here's some of the sighting, inclduing ones that might not be shi but other falcons and poss a harris hawk.

I've been trying to post this message but had 5!!!! calls so far..... just during this message!

>Bretherton - sun till wed early morning (7:30) - top of house
>Eccleston - Sat afternoon/eveing - in tree
>Leyland - wed - around the dump/tip/landfill site
>Leyland - Tue - long moss land/ chapel lane
>Landfill site - Preston New Road - wearing jesses
>Hutton - Tue Morning
>Carnforth - wed - on fence post
>New Longton Tip - TODAY!!

so to sum up -

SAT: Eccleston
SUN: Morning - bretherton
MON: Morning - Bretherton
TUE: Morning - bretherton / Afternoon - Leyland long moss lane
WED: Morning - bretherton / Aftyernoon - leyland landfill
THU: New Longton tip

thats if the above are true.

there are a load more.

so tomorrow will be fun! we have a good idea where he will be and where he will move to. Its just getting close enough for him to see the lure, and me to catch him.

brilliant! newspaper's are wirth their weight in gold!!!!

Hanah

[Rocky]

I've still got them crossed for you Hannah,Good luck
Mel

[Sparrow Hawker]

That's great you've got some leads and possible sightings to go on and by the sounds of it they've all been closeby.

All the best for tomorrow Hannah.

HH

[Afshimo]

im seriously thinking that he mite just b looking for me, but im glad cus he's learning about stuff. He's made a kill on a morehen and a pigeon! lucky sod lol.

But he's been seen on cop lane by booths and salmesbury at 11:30 near tickled trout.

looking good!

had another 5 or so call's, but we're gettin the info so i wont complain too much!!!!!

[K8i]

wen he gets back tell him hi frm me! :grin: i were gettin bloody worried lol. hope to see ya both soon. I'm glad he made a kill lol

cya soon

katie ;)

[Saker-Mad]

hi hannah hope you get him back soon, how long have you been doing falconry and what was ur first bird GOOD LUCK !:D

[Cyclone]

your gettin closer now good luck!!
cyclone

[Jackson]

wen he gets back tell him hi frm me! :grin: i were gettin bloody worried lol. hope to see ya both soon. I'm glad he made a kill lol

cya soon

katie ;)

and me - i been on tender hooks all week!!!! so give him a little word on maybe calling you evry so often if he goes of a again (my mum makes me do that if im just popping out lol so maybe he could do the same lol) did you say he maybe looking for ya!! probably so - if you like ill buy him a map of the area for xmas or whens his bday?!?!!LOL
soooo glad things are looking up for you both!!! and hopefully this time tomorrow we can all relax - especially you!!
all the best
sarah

[Tim Laycock]

Hannah, Am I missing something :-?
How do you know he is out there killing?(Dont get me wrong! Im glad he is)
Good to have so many sightings and the repeated sightings in the same area gives you bit of a pattern too.

Either way, sell that Jerros system to some muppet with a harris and get something more capable!
Remember, If and when you get him back your getting a 2x wild hacked bird that as you say is entered now!
Not a display robot, Make the most of it ;)

[Jackson]

Hannah, Am I missing something :-?
How do you know he is out there killing?(Dont get me wrong! Im glad he is)
Good to have so many sightings and the repeated sightings in the same area gives you bit of a pattern too.

Either way, sell that Jerros system to some muppet with a harris and get something more capable!
Remember, If and when you get him back your getting a 2x wild hacked bird that as you say is entered now!
Not a display robot, Make the most of it ;)

my friend had a saker that went of for 5 days caught him self a pigeon and still did good in display but i think he was just lucky and he didnt really fly his as much!! but true BB the chances are he may not do display and want to hunt!! Glad someone was able to point that out!!!

[Fiona]

Good luck Hannah, really hope you have some success tomorrow.
Fiona

[Afshimo]

lol, when he comes, if he wants to hunt thats what he's gona do. I got no problem with him hunting! just didnt think he was fit enough but obviously he is!

a guy spotted him (exactly the same bird from the photograph he said) took a morehen out and ate it on the field near him. A nother guy said he suprised a pidgeon and killed an ate that in his own garden.

yeah lol, dont need that jerros system, tis **** to say the least. Will save up for a good luksander or martin jones one.

Got the vets on standby aswell, so he will be off their once he returns an got a rest and good grub inside.

lol amazon - he'll need the map! But he's havin a good scout around lol, he'll know whats what next time!

Saker-Mad : first bird was the Sakret, but i was still learning a lot and he died of sour crop in july unfortunatly. Was interested in falconry from adges 5 when we moved to preston, then started owletts course when i was like, 8 then falconry course when i was 13 then volunteering. Loved it lol.

UPDATED MOVEMENTS!!!!!

He was seen 11:30am very near me, in a garden - so tomorrow its all go go go!!!! The boy who lives their, with hsi mum, has flown barn owls and he has a leather glove, and they have raw beef in the frige and might try to tempt him down, he flew towards their son, but quickly turned away wen the son turned around! so he's looking, definatly looking!

[Adam Barrett]

There is a luxsander a tranny for sale on here from parahawker- think it was only about £200 at the moment-might b worth a look at for when you get him back!

All the best
Adam

[Afshimo]

thx! i have PM'd parahawker about it, hope he gets back soon lol!

[Gwaihir]

Hi Hannah

Just caught up with this thread

all the best for today, sounds most encouraging that shiro's been spotted close by.

John M

[Hells99]

Good luck Hannah, have my fingers crossed for you. Helen

[GregMik]

Good luck today Hannah.

Greg

[Osiris]

All the best out trying to find Shi Hannah!! I have my fingures crossed for u! Will check back here later!

Good luck!

[Gwaihir]

Any luck today Hannah?

John M

[Jackson]

any news hannah??

[MacaHawk]

is their any bunnys in bolton or any good hunting grounds as im in burry

[Afshimo]

yes and no. We know exacly where he roost's at night, in a gadren by a pond with waterhen. So guess what he's been eating! there's also loads of rabbit round there to.

so tomorrow at dawn we're going with lots of food and waiting, calling and hoping.

But he is staying in near enough the same place, so getting hold of him should be easier lol.

thanks u guys!

Hannah

P.S - check out lancashire evening post - preston news. he made it on the head lines lol! and the builitin boards!

[ButeHawk]

Best of luck tomorow Hannah. I admire your determination. Saturday will be a good day for you I am sure.

[K8i]

is their any bunnys in bolton or any good hunting grounds as im in burry

sorry i wouldn't know, but you should try asking nearby farmers if you could use there land. also i know Landyshore countrypark in little lever has plenty of wabbits. although im not sure if your allowed to hunt them

atb

katie

[UKJay's Nursey]

fingers crossed for you hun

those who cant get lancashire post you can read it here

http://www.prestontoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=73&ArticleID=1371337

[Jackson]

nice pic hannah lol!!
well it all sounds promising!!!
all the best

[Stewigan]

Hannah, Am I missing something :-?
How do you know he is out there killing?(Dont get me wrong! Im glad he is)
Good to have so many sightings and the repeated sightings in the same area gives you bit of a pattern too.

Either way, sell that Jerros system to some muppet with a harris and get something more capable!
Remember, If and when you get him back your getting a 2x wild hacked bird that as you say is entered now!
Not a display robot, Make the most of it ;)

here we go again bb wi ur attitude, why do you call harris keepers muppets

[MattSpar]

Remember, If and when you get him back your getting a 2x wild hacked bird that as you say is entered now!
Not a display robot, Make the most of it ;)

Excellent bit of advice. If he is killing for himself, when you get him back, make every effort to keep him at it.

[Puddle]

Good luck Hannah tomorrows the day fingers crossed :yawinkle:

[Puzo]

yes and no. We know exacly where he roost's at night, in a gadren by a pond with waterhen. So guess what he's been eating! there's also loads of rabbit round there to.

so tomorrow at dawn we're going with lots of food and waiting, calling and hoping.

It might be a good idea to take a couple of quail to use as a lure. If he's been killing for his-self & sleeping off a full crop, it'le take something a bit more appetising than a normal lure to tempt him down & you can always peg one down & wind him in if he's a bit skittish.I hope you do get him back! Good luck!

[FlameHairedFalconer]

So pleased you have pinpointed his location Hannah - will be thinking of you tomorrow! Good Luck!! :heart:

FHF

[Achilles]

Any joy Hannah? I've got everything crossed for you.

[Tim Laycock]

here we go again bb wi ur attitude, why do you call harris keepers muppets

Stewigan, Get back into your pram
There was no attitude, just the best advice I can give regarding the telemetry system etc.
I said the telemetry system should be sold to some muppet with a Harris!
(There are a lot about! <g>)
I did in no way imply that every Harris hawker was a muppet.
Your interpretation of my meaning is at fault here not me and the advice I choose to impart.
Surely, you conceed that a muppet can own a Harris hawk and the said muppet may be liley to part with his cash for a "Bargain" and allow Hannah to recoup some of her unwise investment.

Next time read a little harder before you set your stall out and if you still intend to do so dont do it on a thread posted by a young girl who simply wants her falcon back :roll:

Alright Treacle :wink:

[Ben C]

If and when you get him back your getting a 2x wild hacked bird that as you say is entered now!
Not a display robot, Make the most of it ;)


I would have this hawk in a second.............gotta get it fit and into routine but it would be fun to instill some manners into the wayward charge!!!

Not sure if it would be any better at killing...but it would be fun having a go..:supz: :supz:

[Afshimo]

up at 6, no sign! not roosting tonight either! didnt see him at all. Nice barn owls and buzzies and kes's etc. back again tomorrow morning. earlier aswel. Getting their for 1/2 5 if we cn, then scouting round the area. I miss my lie-ins lol. Im absolutly wacked - and still no sign!

lol Ben C, it's going to be fun to get him back and see what his attitude is gona b like. He cn hunt and he cn thermal too, so waiting on flights will be cool!

(got told he was bein chased bout 500ft up by crows and the likes!!!!)

[Stewigan]

Stewigan, Get back into your pram
There was no attitude, just the best advice I can give regarding the telemetry system etc.
I said the telemetry system should be sold to some muppet with a Harris!
(There are a lot about! <g>)
I did in no way imply that every Harris hawker was a muppet.
Your interpretation of my meaning is at fault here not me and the advice I choose to impart.
Surely, you conceed that a muppet can own a Harris hawk and the said muppet may be liley to part with his cash for a "Bargain" and allow Hannah to recoup some of her unwise investment.

Next time read a little harder before you set your stall out and if you still intend to do so dont do it on a thread posted by a young girl who simply wants her falcon back :roll:

Alright Treacle :wink: your right bb it was my interpretation, and i agree a muppet may well own an harris but could also own an imprint gos for or any other bird for that matter, the best place for that telem set is the bin or for someone who keeps budgies

[Tim Laycock]

your right bb it was my interpretation, and i agree a muppet may well own an harris but could also own an imprint gos for or any other bird for that matter
Yes you are right, though cost is a limiting factor it does not rule some messers out :(

the best place for that telem set is the bin or for someone who keeps budgies
Agreed :lol: (twice in one day :shock:)

[Jackson]

up at 6, no sign! not roosting tonight either! didnt see him at all. Nice barn owls and buzzies and kes's etc. back again tomorrow morning. earlier aswel. Getting their for 1/2 5 if we cn, then scouting round the area. I miss my lie-ins lol. Im absolutly wacked - and still no sign!

lol Ben C, it's going to be fun to get him back and see what his attitude is gona b like. He cn hunt and he cn thermal too, so waiting on flights will be cool!

(got told he was bein chased bout 500ft up by crows and the likes!!!!)

best of luck for tommorow hannah
and ill enjoy the lie ins for you lol!!!!

[Tim Laycock]

best of luck for tommorow hannah
and ill enjoy the lie ins for you lol!!!!
Likewise:lol:

[Gwaihir]

Any news Hannah?

John M

[Afshimo]

nothing major. He has changed roosting area's, now a mile or 2 off the 2nd site. No wonder we didnt see anything! But we will keep on going out.

[Stewigan]

keep going hannah, hope you manage to find him soon

[Saker-Mad]

hope you get him back soon.
saker-mad.:D

[Fiona]

hi Hannah,
must be so frustrating! keep going, hope you catch up with him again

Fiona

[Afshimo]

hiya, we know where he's moved to lol. He's havin a right good time! he's near to a city but in the green band so to speak. lil sod! same thing tomorrow, no lie in, wave a quail and lure lol. still hoping he comes bk, got his mews all nice an sparkly!

[Saker-Mad]

keep ur head up he will be back sooner or later

[Gwaihir]

Any news Hannah?

John M

[Hacker]

Hannah,
Whats the update on Shiro?

[Afshimo]

hiya, still not been found. Going out everyday still and the odd phone call now and then.

Thx

Han

[Jackson]

keep it up hannah
still got my fingers crossed and i and everyone wont give up on you!!

[Gwaihir]

Keep your head up Hannah. I'm sure it'll come good in the end

John M

[ChuddyJT250]

HI hannah,

Just caught the thread, good luck and keep ur chin up, we're all rootin 4 you

[Jackson]

any news hannah???

[OutFlying]

Hannah's avitar says she's on holiday till Friday - no updates till then I would presume.

[Afshimo]

sry! i have forgot to change that! :oops: was a good bit busy with shi. changed now!

Had a look again today, we got the area, its a mod land, old bunkers, plenty of rabbit, pheasant, duck, lapwing - u name it its their in abundance. Loads of suicidal pheasant too - walking in middle of road. So we will be their early morning and evening.

Still no returned shi.

[K8i]

keep going hannah. he'll be home soon ;)

[Jackson]

gud luck with the search
thoughts are still with you!!

[ParaButeo78]

Hope you find him , Hannah.
Don't give up hope and keep looking!
I know of birds that have been reunited with their owners after weeks, even months.
Thoughts are with you....:goodman:

[FoxHunter]

Hannah,Keep on searching -one fails only when one stops trying.The weekend is here now and I wish you the best of luck in your quest.

[HarrisHawk.1.]

hi do we have any news yet hannah, any more sitings or have you found bird yet

cheers

[Afshimo]

nothing still. goin out everyday and keeping an eye out.

[Osiris]

nothing still. goin out everyday and keeping an eye out.

keep your spirits up hannah. you'll get Shi back!!!

[UKJay's Nursey]

never ever give up hope hope hun,you will get him back:D

[Gwaihir]

Hi Hannah.

Any word yet?

John M

[Afshimo]

nope sorry, still out in the big wide world lol.

thx

Han

[Palmer]

Good luck hannah! you will get him back soon.

[K8i]

hiya! sorry to hear shi aint home yet but he will be soon!! Chin up!!!!!

katie

p.s. shout me if ya need me! :grin:

[Afshimo]

KKK888888888IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

Did u hear me lol?

Cant wait to get him back, its so obring here now lol.

c u!

[Jackson]

any news hannah?

[Afshimo]

hiya,


no-ones seen shiro for a week now, i've been out looking still, but i think he's moved on, but dont know where. I'm hopin i get him back soon, his aviary is ready and waiting. we still get the odd sighting of the local sparrowhawk.

hannah

[Adam Barrett]

any news?

[Matthew Symons]

and best of luck in finding him !

[Adam Barrett]

any news hannah?

[Afshimo]

hey,

Just waiting for a reply to the falcon seen thread, a possibility, only 80miles in a strait line from here, directly south so who knows lol.

Other then that there's nothing else, no sightings etc.

thx

Han

[UKJay74]

Hannah hun psycho managed 30miles odd in 3 days so you never know :D keep ya chin up you will have shi back soon.

Good luck hun hope is him i know what your going through

[Afshimo]

Hey,

Shi was spotted at cureden vally park at about 7, we shot down in the car with lure, chicks, glove, hood etc and walked along the high path. Saw a large white bird floating over the motorway following the tree line, with pale underside and darker back on the wings. Something glinted everytime it faced the sun. If the telem is still on, then it must have been shi lol. He was a good 50ft or higher up, coming down and landing the tree's. Called and swung the lure, no response. But my mate will have another go early in the morning for me (thx) But he's def there. Nice spot - ducks, crows, pheasant etc. Not suprised! Glad to finally see him, not great news but i've located him and some very nice fellow falconers have agreed to help me lure him in, or trap him if it comes to that lol.

Im much happier lol.

(said I'd keep u updated!)

hannah

[Jackson]

wahoo!!! a sighting at last!! well done for not giving up!! hope he comes back soon!!

[Adam Barrett]

Good luck

[Stephen]

all the best hope you get him back soon

[Hacker]

Hannah,
look on the bright side, when you get him back it will be one well hacked bird with by now a lot of kills under its belt.:supz:

[GoneHawking]

I wouldn't openly admit on a public forum that fellow falconers will help you trap Shiro, I think you meant lure him down

Mark

[Hacker]

Nothing wrong with trapping a loose bop

[Hacker]

In fact you would probably get more flack for letting a non indigenous species loose.

[GoneHawking]

I thought there was a law stating no bird of prey shall be trapped, whether captive bred or wild, Happy to stand corrected if anyone knows the correct law.

Mark

[Hacker]

I can understand no trapping of a wild bop unless under license but a captive bred?

[GoneHawking]

hopefully someone can shed a little more light on this subject then, I take your point but you know how silly wildlife law can be.

Mark

[Hacker]

How would you get a hacked bird back?
You could always say that luring is a form of trapping, ie enticing bird down with a false lure whereupon you grab it?

[GoneHawking]

didn't tony james of the bfc have to apply for a license to trap hacked merlins?? can't rember the exact story, maybe some of the big breeders can help.

You pick the bird up from a lure with a gloved hand at the birds own will, to trap a bird with nooses etc or a bow trap is not legal as far as I know, these are two different things and not to be confused.

Mark

[Cyclone]

glad ya have nearly got him back
cyclone

[Tim Laycock]

Mark, you are correct.

[Claire]

I think it depends on how trap is interperated. it is certainly not legal to use an unattended trap, but if you can lure him down and wind him up with a creance line if you cant get close enough, i'm pretty sure thats legal

[HawkWorks]

all i was told that it was on 173. I thought then that that was it. sorry if no-one told me there was more then that. I thought the 10channel telem only had smaller frequency and mine was just 173. Jerros sytem.

thx everyone else

Han
Its on 418 & can only be picked up by another jeross or a red tag or non-coloured hawkfinder/e-track/microsystem (blue/green dial hawkfinder/skytrack is on 433 & won't pick it up)

Try from the top of Pendle hill. Take compass & OS
Pete
PS I just saw you located him. Comments still apply for tomorrow. If he heads my way I have a 418 set here.

[GoneHawking]

Claire unattended traps usually mean such traps as Larsen or cage traps, if you were to use the bow trap (net)or a noose jacket on a lure pigeon you would be present, but none the less they are still illegal methods of reclaiming a hawk that is deemed lost and been at liberty for a period of time, as for the method of winding up I am unsure about the legality although I would have thought technically you are recapturing a bird that doesn't want to be caught, ie: traped.

As I said before I am not saying I agree with these laws and I am not an authority on the laws concerned with trapping, maybe someone with more knowledge can add to this.


Mark

[Tim Laycock]

Correct again Mark :yawinkle:

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Its on 418 & can only be picked up by another jeross or a red tag or non-coloured hawkfinder/e-track/microsystem (blue/green dial hawkfinder/skytrack is on 433 & won't pick it up)

Try from the top of Pendle hill. Take compass & OS
Pete
PS I just saw you located him. Comments still apply for tomorrow. If he heads my way I have a 418 set here.
Theres more chance of plating fog than this system recovering Hannahs bird. If you want advice on picking him up Hannah you have my number.

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Its on 418 & can only be picked up by another jeross or a red tag or non-coloured hawkfinder/e-track/microsystem (blue/green dial hawkfinder/skytrack is on 433 & won't pick it up)

Try from the top of Pendle hill. Take compass & OS
Pete
PS I just saw you located him. Comments still apply for tomorrow. If he heads my way I have a 418 set here.
Your post was as much use as your system.

[GoneHawking]

you could throw the Jeross receiver at the bird and hope to knock it out, thus recapturing without using any traping methods..........

Mark

[GoneHawking]

Only joking.....................well about throwing it at the bird anyway, second thoughts just throw it away.


Mark

[Tim Laycock]

PMSL :supz:

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Only joking.....................well about throwing it at the bird anyway, second thoughts just throw it away.


Mark
PMSL! Could be in the hall of fame along with the patented Cadburys Fireguard.

[GoneHawking]

Don't forget the sinclair C5, I think there is more chance of seeing a steamy heap of rocking horse poo than locating a bird with the jeross system, better off asking stevie wonder to keep an eye out for it....................

[OutFlying]

Its on 418 & can only be picked up by another jeross or a red tag or non-coloured hawkfinder/e-track/microsystem (blue/green dial hawkfinder/skytrack is on 433 & won't pick it up)

Try from the top of Pendle hill. Take compass & OS
Pete
PS I just saw you located him. Comments still apply for tomorrow. If he heads my way I have a 418 set here.

The batteries die long ago - this falcon has been out for weeks Pete.

Jim.

[Afshimo]

Hiya,

thanks for the help, been on a weekend away (flippin ace!!! lol) and a mate has ben very very nice and kept a look out, said he saw a white bird with the glint but again dissapeared over the hill. So we will get together and use 2 car's in two locations close to where he goes to sleep.

And for ppl with falcons, dont make the mistake of buying a jerros system as they are pretty much useless - bell's have more range lol. Also, mine managed to direct me to a telephone mast, so I'm going to buy a proper set, have been noseying through the telem pages and still deciding and saving the money.

I mean trap him with the creance method, but I'd have to read into trapping him and from the sounds of it its going to take some time to get permit. But, we are still holding out.

Keep you updated on anything new or exciting.

Thx again, nice to know there's ppl willing to help and support!

Han

[Moses]

bloody hell still no got it back yet

i hope u do soon pal


all the best

[Pogue Mahone]

permit ******** ya get him back no matter what means doll

[HawkWorks]

Theres more chance of plating fog than this system recovering Hannahs bird. If you want advice on picking him up Hannah you have my number.
You appear to be labour ing under the impression that I make or supply the jeross system. I DO NOT. It is a badly made, unlicensed copy of one of my early sets. The meter does not work & the instructions are totally inadequate. The receiver cannot be serviced.

Pete

[HawkWorks]

The batteries die long ago - this falcon has been out for weeks Pete.

Jim.
Yes. It was late at night & I was about to shut down when I when I noticed the 'new' thread. So I provided the required info (frequency). skipped to the end, & failed to noticed he'd originally gone a couple of months ago.

Pete