Bow Perches

[Laurie]

Hello,
Just a thought. Would I be able to get away with using a portable bow perch for a Harris hawk whilst going through the manning process and then free loft it once its entered. Or should I not be so tight fisted and buy both. My only reasoning for this is I'll be able to use the portable perch whilst teathered in the mews and also outside on the grass and when its free lofted I can just use it outside. What did you more experienced people do?? Hope this makes sense.

Cheers

[Tim Laycock]

Nothing wrong with that!
Nothing wrong with being tight fisted either 8-)

[Goldie]

Just make sure the portable bow is heavy enough as your bird is likely to do a fair bit of bating whilst you are going through the early manning stage

[Nemesis]

I use both as my fhh moves the portable all over the place even though it bloody heavy but I have drild holes inthe base to put stakes through to stop this hope this helps / dave

[Albie]

Hello,
Just a thought. Would I be able to get away with using a portable bow perch for a Harris hawk whilst going through the manning process and then free loft it once its entered. Or should I not be so tight fisted and buy both. My only reasoning for this is I'll be able to use the portable perch whilst teathered in the mews and also outside on the grass and when its free lofted I can just use it outside. What did you more experienced people do?? Hope this makes sense.

Cheers
Hi Laurie,
If you need a realy heavyweight portable bow pm me and I will give you the name of the firm I got mine from.
Albie..
ps they cost about £80-00 but very good value and my Bengal Eagle Owl cant drag it around when he bates off.

[Finnish]

£80.00 i'll have three...:rolleyes:

Only joking:lol: :lol:

[Albie]

£80.00 i'll have three...:rolleyes:

Only joking:lol: :lol:
If your a really good boy I'll leave you mine in me will..
Mind you I'm not going anywhere for a long time cause I owe too much money lol.

[OutFlying]

It doesn't look the best design I've seen and the rubber perch section looks like it could pose a problem for a "bating raptor". The rubber section needs to be smaller and more tapered at it's ends.

Jim.

[Tim Laycock]

Correct Jim :supz:

[OutFlying]

ps It's a Ben Long model

[Yarak1]

Hi Laurie, the portable in the picture is not the best as the rubber ends need to be tapered to stop the ring catching , also the rubber is a bit over the top as far as thickness is concerned.
John

[Renton]

ps It's a Ben Long model

Looks like a Falconry Originals one to me.

[Tim Laycock]

The difference is the name, thats all!
Some who have been in this game for a while will remember when it was
"Falconry Originals By Ben Long" ;)

[Renton]

The difference is the name, thats all!
Some who have been in this game for a while will remember when it was
"Falconry Originals By Ben Long" ;)

That was a while ago!!!

[Tim Laycock]

Yes, It was

[OutFlying]

http://www.benlongfalconry.co.uk/Bowperch-portable-heavyweight.jpg


looks identical to me

[Renton]

http://www.benlongfalconry.co.uk/Bowperch-portable-heavyweight.jpg


looks identical to me

Indeed it does. I bought one exactly the same from Falconry Originals last year. :rolleyes:

[Budfin]

crown falconry make a good bow perch...!

[Yarak1]

Jim Moss, crown falconry...bloody good bows for a good price....

[Yarak1]

Looks like a Falconry Originals one to me.

They are neither..someone up north makes them and sells them to ben long and falconry originals.!!

[Pitbull]

Jim Moss, crown falconry...bloody good bows for a good price....

is their a contact number for crown as im after another bow as im well pleased with the one i have. All i get is an answer achine or is that right. should i just keep trying to get ringing them.

[Renton]

They are neither..someone up north makes them and sells them to ben long and falconry originals.!!

Now we know the awful truth!

[Yarak1]

is their a contact number for crown as im after another bow as im well pleased with the one i have. All i get is an answer achine or is that right. should i just keep trying to get ringing them.

Hi David, just leave a message and Jim will ring you back!!

[Pitbull]

Hi David, just leave a message and Jim will ring you back!!

cheers i will try again

[Albie]

just read all your posts, and like the newbies say on this forum why is it all you so called falconers set out to rubbish things that you personally would'nt use..
None of you actually own one of these or have personally "road tested" it have you?
I have had two of these perches for years and not once have I had a problem with rings or anything else snagging the rubber.
So come on you know alls lets see some pics of your perches and maybe we could find a fault or two with them..

[Pitbull]

these are what I use
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[OutFlying]

just read all your posts, and like the newbies say on this forum why is it all you so called falconers set out to rubbish things that you personally would'nt use..
None of you actually own one of these or have personally "road tested" it have you?
I have had two of these perches for years and not once have I had a problem with rings or anything else snagging the rubber.
So come on you know alls lets see some pics of your perches and maybe we could find a fault or two with them..

Albie,
Forgot to add - the legs are too short, which could enable the leash to be trapped on the ends. A correct designed portable bow perch will have legs longer than the leash length to prevent this happening.

Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't.

Jim.

[OutFlying]

This is a good design, nice "bow" shape and long legs. Maybe the legs need to be heavier. The covering isn't complete.

[Pitbull]

are those powder coated

[OutFlying]

Couldn't tell you. It's off this site

http://www.themodernapprentice.com/gen_equipment.htm

I have a powder coated one and it has lasted well, but stainless is the best option.

Jim.

[Yarak1]

just read all your posts, and like the newbies say on this forum why is it all you so called falconers set out to rubbish things that you personally would'nt use..
None of you actually own one of these or have personally "road tested" it have you?
I have had two of these perches for years and not once have I had a problem with rings or anything else snagging the rubber.
So come on you know alls lets see some pics of your perches and maybe we could find a fault or two with them..

Not slagging off your perches........just think there is better ones out there!!

[Jack Merlin]

just read all your posts, and like the newbies say on this forum why is it all you so called falconers set out to rubbish things that you personally would'nt use..
None of you actually own one of these or have personally "road tested" it have you?
I have had two of these perches for years and not once have I had a problem with rings or anything else snagging the rubber.
So come on you know alls lets see some pics of your perches and maybe we could find a fault or two with them..

The safest and cheapest bow perch is easily and quickly made out of a natural staff cut out of the wood -- as has been used in falconry for hundreds of years.

If you can find fault with this, I would be very interested to hear about it. All logic, not to mention the laws of physics, is against using those steel hawk traps with upright legs as advertised on Ebay.

[Berkut]

The safest and cheapest bow perch is easily and quickly made out of a natural staff cut out of the wood -- as has been used in falconry for hundreds of years.

If you can find fault with this, I would be very interested to hear about it. All logic, not to mention the laws of physics, is against using those steel hawk traps with upright legs as advertised on Ebay.
I totally agree and a gos looks particularly good on one.

[Tim Laycock]

A good perch 8-)

[Fawkes]

For a good portable bow, how long should the legs be? (ie if you were to make one, how long would you make them)
I'm planning on getting a RT this fall and am in the process of collecting equipment.. will soon be taking a plan to a welders to get one made. Any suggestions are welcome!

[OutFlying]

I would make the legs longer than the length of the leash - then the chance of the leash being caught on the end of the leg is eliminated.

Jim.

[Jack Merlin]

A good perch 8-)

The best design I have seen to date BB.

Shall I email you my address for the free sample so I can give a written endorsement?<vbg>

But, seriously, well thought out. I like the small details like the downward pointing ends at ground level so the leash can't snag.

I think we should start a competition posting pictures of various perches, then the various ways a hawk can get snagged on them! It could be very revealing. What in scientific circles is called peer review -- something generally encouraged to show up the flaws in an argument or idea without anyone taking it personally. Could it be done here without flames??

[Hells99]

Would be very good (free) information for us newbies too! :supz: