looking after disabled or old bops

[Moses]

how many of u guys r thinking of or are looking after disabled bops or older ones u cant fly anymore or even ones who can only fly a lil but not far distances coz of a wing injury etc


it would be nice to look after one till the ends of its days i think

[Falconer1000]

your right some people think it's crule to have a bird that cant fly due to injury i had a 22 year old lanner that recently died she was given to me by a friend she was a breeding bird that got too old and needed a flight to see out her days she had over 60 offspring, so is proberly related to a good deal of lanners flown today i took great pleasure in giving her a roof, and was sad when she died,

[Osiris]

i for one will keep my birds till the end of their days. couldn't see myself without them. the bond is unbreakable!

if someone were to bring in an unwanted bop (old or injured like said) i would take them in till the end of their days. better to.

[Barbary Boy]

your right some people think it's crule to have a bird that cant fly due to injury i had a 22 year old lanner that recently died she was given to me by a friend she was a breeding bird that got too old and needed a flight to see out her days she had over 60 offspring, so is proberly related to a good deal of lanners flown today i took great pleasure in giving her a roof, and was sad when she died,
did you get her from a guy near bishop aukland by any chance?

[Moses]

true lads, i put my name down for an injured bop to take care of one a few months ago, i spoke to the lad again last month, its sad he is finishing up doing the bop rescue and finding homes, dont blame him, not many people want injured or disabled ones, he had a lanner but it was kept for another lad



God willing if anything comes up near september i will luv to snap it up :D along with my hunting harris hawk it would be nice to have one i can look after


cheers

[HawkMan]

Ive just picked up 2 barn owls from a rescue centre today down stafford ,
Giving them a roof to live under with love and care .
It seems everyones giving there birds up in droves now with this bird flu on the rage .
Its a shame really as some birds who are kept indoors or under cover have no need to be given away .
All the best
Jb

[Carol]

I have also given a home to a injured bop with a lot of help from the guys and girls on the falconry forum to get him delivered from Scotland to staffordshire.
I have a male harris with odeamas to both wings he does fly and will fly next season but will never hunt. He is nealy 2 years old and will live out the rest of his days happy.

[Renton]

Ive just picked up 2 barn owls from a rescue centre today down stafford ,
Giving them a roof to live under with love and care .
It seems everyones giving there birds up in droves now with this bird flu on the rage .
Its a shame really as some birds who are kept indoors or under cover have no need to be given away .
All the best
Jb

All down to the media-driven panic over a not particularly, as yet, dangerous to human health zoonotic infection.

[WildlifeCentre]

i have a sanctuary full of unwanted birds.we have a zoo licence so are open to the public i cant hunt and fly the semi injured to much but they can work in displays to show how they hunt and live in the wild

this bird flu thing stupid i have and are expecting more birds than i can cope with i am having to turn birds away due to lack of space and funds to build endless avairies

[Flying High]

I have always looked after unwanted or disabled birds and now that i have the space i am hoping to be able to do more.

[HawkMan]

I think this bird flu epidemic has gone out of proportion ,
More people die of the normal flu each year then what these are expecting .
It was the same with the mad cow disease .
I think alot of healthy birds are going to get left to die as unwanted pets ,through the media coverage they love getting on he band wagon and putting the sh-t up everyone .
I think falconry is going to get turned upside down and its not fair .
Jb

[Jackson]

i would take in a disabled bop with no hesitation as long as it was in some way mobile - it could walk or fly!!
this is not my personal opinion suggestions of someones elses of close friends around me! but what if all it can do is sit there unless you move it and has no quality to life as it were?? obviously it would depend on the individual bop as i gues it can be jusgemental in many cases!! b ut what happens if the bop sufers and is better to put it down??
i personally feel that anything that can be saved suffering should - whether thats putting it down or giving it special care!! i prefer where possible to go with specialist care!! but if the bop cant walk or breed or fly then how is it worht putting it through more suffering??
dont get me woring though i would take in a rescue bop no matter what if i was presented with one!
just my thoughts though

[Renton]

I think this bird flu epidemic has gone out of proportion ,
More people die of the normal flu each year then what these are expecting .
It was the same with the mad cow disease .
I think alot of healthy birds are going to get left to die as unwanted pets ,through the media coverage they love getting on he band wagon and putting the sh-t up everyone .
I think falconry is going to get turned upside down and its not fair .
Jb

Cumulative confirmed cases of bird flu (H5N1):

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/country/cases_table_2006_02_27/en/index.html

[Moses]

i would take in a disabled bop with no hesitation as long as it was in some way mobile - it could walk or fly!!
this is not my personal opinion suggestions of someones elses of close friends around me! but what if all it can do is sit there unless you move it and has no quality to life as it were?? obviously it would depend on the individual bop as i gues it can be jusgemental in many cases!! b ut what happens if the bop sufers and is better to put it down??
i personally feel that anything that can be saved suffering should - whether thats putting it down or giving it special care!! i prefer where possible to go with specialist care!! but if the bop cant walk or breed or fly then how is it worht putting it through more suffering??
dont get me woring though i would take in a rescue bop no matter what if i was presented with one!
just my thoughts though


mate i kinda have similiar sentiments, i would rather put a bird out of misery if its really bad or if its trapped in a mews all day long for yrs, having said that i would also like to look after one too, if its in very bad condition, putting it down is merciful

[HawkMan]

More people die of malaria each year ,
Weve got more chance of winning the loto then of dieing of bird flu
Jb

[Hells99]

I am due to be building an aviary this summer to house a Bengal Eagle Owl from the Raptor Foundation. I'll only be fostering him so he will still belong to the foundation, they have loads of disabled birds there. These are the figures for the last 3 months of wild birds brought in injured... 36 birds brought in of which 25 were given life care, 3 were released and 8 died.

[CooperMan]

I'm all for keeping elderly birds who have reach the end of their flying or breeding career we owe them that much if not more. I don't however agree with keeping severley disabled birds or animals of any kind and hope I can be realistic in my approach to that.
A pet hate of mine is to see one winged birds in rescue centres. These birds should be put down. They never adjust properly to having one wing and often cause them self more injury through jumping off high perches. With wings that trail on the ground they often develop sores and suffer from feather damage and generally look bloody awful.
We need to be responsible when rescuing wildlife and make sure if they cannot be released they have a good quality of life.

[Berkut]

I'm all for keeping elderly birds who have reach the end of their flying or breeding career we owe them that much if not more. I don't however agree with keeping severley disabled birds or animals of any kind and hope I can be realistic in my approach to that.
A pet hate of mine is to see one winged birds in rescue centres. These birds should be put down. They never adjust properly to having one wing and often cause them self more injury through jumping off high perches. With wings that trail on the ground they often develop sores and suffer from feather damage and generally look bloody awful.
We need to be responsible when rescuing wildlife and make sure if they cannot be released they have a good quality of life.
I agree.I was asked to take a passage tiercel peregrine.He was a real stunner but had lost a whole wing.I put him in a flight with stepping stones and the like to keep him mobile.Couldn,t believe it one day, poor ****** flipped over and drowned while taking a bath.

[HawkMan]

Stop it im crying here how could you post that on the forum ,****** the wifes started aswell ,
Jb
As long as he died fast thats all that counts
Jb

[CoyoteOutlaw]

Working in wildlife rehab, I see this all the time. Its one of the hardest decisions to make and it is hardly ever a clearcut, black and white situation, but sometimes the bird makes the decision for you. Some of them fight so hard that you can't help but give them the chance to live, even if it means being in captivity for the rest of their lives, often these birds turn out to be incredible education birds. On the other hand, some birds seem to go beyond giving up and in this case it would be cruel to keep them alive and in captivity for their lives. There are laws (in the US at least) that monitor what birds are kept alive for education or breeding, they vary based on the state (I think), but I know in some states (if not all) you can no longer keep a bop with a wing amputation beyond a certain joint-bops already in captivity with amputations beyond this joint are under a grandfather clause and facilities are allowed to keep them until they die, but cannot amputate and keep anymore. It is a tough decision, and one that needs to be made in the best interest of the bird, not the human or human emotions. As others have said, it all comes down to a quality of life, if the bird can have that, give it a second chance, if not, then its selfish to keep it alive. Sorry for such a long post, but those are some of my views on the subject. QUALITY OF LIFE IS THE KEY!

[HawkMan]

Stop it im crying here how could you post that on the forum ,****** the wifes started aswell ,
Jb
As long as he died fast thats all that counts
Jb
I was joking before just waited for someone to take the bait as you said m8 if it has,nt got a quality of life well it should be put down ,
All the best
Jb

[Barbary Boy]

there is a guy in s/e scottland who advertised good homes for old or unwanted bop. it was really quite amazing the number and variety of birds he was given! they are now perched out daily in a pub garden with a "charity" box! he is doing quite nicely thank you!

[Renton]

there is a guy in s/e scottland who advertised good homes for old or unwanted bop. it was really quite amazing the number and variety of birds he was given! they are now perched out daily in a pub garden with a "charity" box! he is doing quite nicely thank you!

Easy money!

[Barbary Boy]

Easy money!
shame for the old reliable breeders though?

[Accipitra]

how many of u guys r thinking of or are looking after disabled bops or older ones u cant fly anymore or even ones who can only fly a lil but not far distances coz of a wing injury etc


it would be nice to look after one till the ends of its days i think

Not being funny but this sounds like a lot of work for very little in return!
But then again Im a selfish bitch :rolleyes: ;-) :lol: