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FlameHairedFalconer
11-03-2006, 01:23 PM
Right - Here you go on making a glove. This one is a single skin with quite a full length cuff in 3mm elk skin. The 3mm stuff is very dense but flexible. It is too heavy for a double overlay but I can handle my female ferru on this weight leather with no problems. The fourchettes are made out of scrap leather that I have lying around as 3mm elk fourchettes would mean that I would be unable to move my fingers!!

All pieces of leather cut out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Hattie74/glove1.jpg




FlameHairedFalconer
11-03-2006, 01:24 PM
Rolled sewn on:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Hattie74/glove2.jpg

FlameHairedFalconer
11-03-2006, 01:24 PM
Thumb sewn on:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Hattie74/glove3.jpg

FlameHairedFalconer
11-03-2006, 01:25 PM
'D' Ring on and fourchettes in:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Hattie74/glove4.jpg

FlameHairedFalconer
11-03-2006, 01:25 PM
Finished article with tassell:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Hattie74/glove5.jpg

Tim Laycock
11-03-2006, 03:10 PM
Nice :cool:

Hawkmaster
11-03-2006, 03:14 PM
Good thread it should earn you some Rep points;-)
Do you glue any of the parts before sewing?

FlameHairedFalconer
11-03-2006, 03:49 PM
Good thread it should earn you some Rep points;-)
Do you glue any of the parts before sewing?

If I was doing a double overlay then, yes I would glue that just to keep it in place while sewing. I also glue the rolled edge in place and then sew it, again to keep it in place.

I should also say that my gloves are entirely hand sewn, no machining at all, even the rolled edge!

FHF

Hawkmaster
11-03-2006, 03:52 PM
Gosh, hand sewn that is a neat job! Can you show us a closer macro taken picture and maybe elaborate on the sewing process, for people that are interested?

FlameHairedFalconer
11-03-2006, 03:59 PM
Right - hope this works, I'm working with iphoto as I havent got round to getting photoshop on my mac so hopefully this is a bit more of a close up of the original pic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Hattie74/glove6.jpg

I use saddlers stitch and punch all the holes first with an awl, manually. :shock: I then sew using two threads and needles going through one way with one needle and then back the other with the opposite thread and needle. So basically I go round the whole glove with the stitch marker, then with the awl, then with the needles and threads.

Believe it or not it normally takes about 5 hours from cutting out to the finished product - although this is normally over a few nights. I've made quite a lot of gloves in my time so have got it down to a fine art now!

FHF

Budfin
11-03-2006, 04:03 PM
nice glove..seems a bit to adventurous for me though, I'll stick to anklets and jesses for now, leave the gloves to the pro's..!

Hawkmaster
11-03-2006, 04:27 PM
Great thanks, I find it is also easier to use a 'saddle pony' to hold the glove while giving you two free hands for working with, but unfortunately I have not had one now for a few years.

Do you use one?

FlameHairedFalconer
11-03-2006, 04:49 PM
No, just make sure I keep the stitching taught as I go. Normally have to bandage up my fingers though! :shock:

I like to sit on the sofa with the TV on when making up gloves etc, pref with a nice fire going...although this isnt strictly necessary! :wink:

FHF

Tim Laycock
11-03-2006, 04:54 PM
When I make gloves I glue the whole thing together from begining to end to make sure it goes together untwisted.
Then I just sew it with a cutting needle and pliers to push and pull the needle through the leather.

Im due another glove and could do with one made by somebody who knows what they are on with :wink: :wink:

FlameHairedFalconer
11-03-2006, 05:03 PM
When I make gloves I glue the whole thing together from begining to end to make sure it goes together untwisted.
Then I just sew it with a cutting needle and pliers to push and pull the needle through the leather.

Im due another glove and could do with one made by somebody who knows what they are on with :wink: :wink:

Sorry BB - I'm STILL waiting on some more elk - will chase my supplier next week!


FHF

AngelJakki
21-07-2006, 09:46 PM
I like your glove, I use the elk for the gussetts too and you can move your hand I use 4-5mm elk and double layer it stays so supple love the stuff.

Venividevenatio
22-07-2006, 06:54 AM
Nice work!

(I bet that by the time you are finishing the stiching on the fourchets, you are questioning the spelling, or at least the phonetics! )

Wilfred
16-02-2007, 02:17 PM
I am going to try the glove pattern in Liam O Broin's a manual for hawking. Anyone made the glove in that book already? It should be a good spar glove when finished.

Puzo
16-02-2007, 02:32 PM
If I'm stitching a glove, especially with an overlay I use an automatic awl. It saves cut fingers & snapped needles when sewing triple thicknesses of leather.

Jeremiah Johnson
16-02-2007, 03:13 PM
I wish i could do that i have been trying to find a right hand glove that fits for over two years now

You are an amazing person FHF:roll::roll:

I hear you very thoughtful too :roll:

Saker-Mad
16-02-2007, 03:41 PM
good job:supz:

Falconry Equipment International
16-02-2007, 06:26 PM
I wish i could do that i have been trying to find a right hand glove that fits for over two years now

You are an amazing person FHF:roll::roll:

I hear you very thoughtful too :roll:
Jeremiah Johnson
do you realize we do a full range of sizes in both left and right handed gloves, most sizes too. HTH

Andy Cunningham
16-02-2007, 06:42 PM
well done ,nice work.

MattSpar
16-02-2007, 06:51 PM
Doesn't the use of scrap leather for your fourchettes leave an unnecessary weak spot at just the wrong place, i.e. under the first finger where a bird's hind talon often rests?

I make my fourchettes curved to offset, to a certain extent, any stiffness of the leather by sewing the fingers in a natural curve.

FlameHairedFalconer
16-02-2007, 06:59 PM
Doesn't the use of scrap leather for your fourchettes leave an unnecessary weak spot at just the wrong place, i.e. under the first finger where a bird's hind talon often rests?

I make my fourchettes curved to offset, to a certain extent, any stiffness of the leather by sewing the fingers in a natural curve.

The elk hide that I made the glove in the photo out of was just too thick to move your fingers in at all (bear in mind I am a girl :lol: ) even if I had sewn in a curved forchette. Its not that the leather was stiff, just when doubled up incredibly thick (believe me I tried!). I like to be able to have some movement in the fingers personally, and find that because my hand is so small, I never actually get that 'curve' with use anyway.

Using the leather I used in the photos is not ideal by any stretch of the imagination, but all I had at the time. If the elk hide had been thinner the whole glove would have been made out of it.

FHF

MattSpar
16-02-2007, 07:02 PM
(bear in mind I am a girl :lol: )

The day I forget a thing like that, I'll know I really am old.

FlameHairedFalconer
16-02-2007, 07:05 PM
The day I forget a thing like that, I'll know I really am old.

I am not your daughter and I havent come to take you out PMSL :lol: :lol:

FHF

Jeremiah Johnson
16-02-2007, 07:42 PM
Jeremiah Johnson
do you realize we do a full range of sizes in both left and right handed gloves, most sizes too. HTH



I was trying to get a tailored one for free :rolleyes:

seriously though
I went to every stall at the falconry fair last 4 - 5 years and have been unable to find one to fit ... the closest off the pegs I have are made in pakistan and were given to me by a large UK breeder ... the best I still use it was made for me about 7 years ago

Jez

Leo 1
16-02-2007, 07:43 PM
Jeremiah Johnson
do you realize we do a full range of sizes in both left and right handed gloves, most sizes too. HTH

i will have the post to u sone m8

Choccy
16-02-2007, 07:57 PM
Nice work especially if all done by hand.
I am an upholsterer and suggest you could try using a curved needle,so much easier than straight.Might have a go at one on the machine.

Wilfred
23-02-2007, 10:12 AM
Rolled sewn on:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/Hattie74/glove2.jpg


How do you make this. Rolled on. Maybe a kind of stupid question but I really do not know. And then the tassel. Think it is good to make some good explanation with pictures also there

I ask this since i am making a spar glove just now! Sewn by hand. The glove is about to be ready only this "rolled on" and the tassel still. I think i got some good explanation for making this tassel, but not for this rolled on it is still unclear to me. But will watch how it is made on my other gloves might see there how to.

FlameHairedFalconer
23-02-2007, 10:58 AM
Will see if I can do an explanation for you later Wilfred

FHF

Wilfred
23-02-2007, 11:06 AM
Will see if I can do an explanation for you later Wilfred

FHF


OK. You could also take a look at my ugly first trail glove. I posted some pictures here on the forum just now. But got to finish it still. Fingers are more like square :-)

BoySetsFire
14-10-2010, 01:01 PM
Hi there!
Nice glove mate.
Could you upload some patterns for the glove?

FlameHairedFalconer
14-10-2010, 01:26 PM
Hi there!
Nice glove mate.
Could you upload some patterns for the glove?

I cant upload any patterns that would be of any use to you as they are all cut out and impossible to scale.

The patterns in Glasiers, Uptons and O'Brions books are very good.