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CheeseStraws
12-03-2006, 12:25 PM
Help.
This is my first post. I am thinking about getting my first bird. but before i go down that road i want to make sure i know what i am getting myself into!
One of the questions is where do i fly the bird ?
can anyone give me an idea on getting some land to fly and in the future hunt on.
Thanks
Cheese
Palmer
12-03-2006, 12:31 PM
First of all welcome to the forum.
You should contact nearby farmers to see if you can fly your bird on their land. What bird are you thinking of getting?
CheeseStraws
12-03-2006, 12:42 PM
I don't know yet , a HH is the easy answer but i like the red tail too , The brit buzzard isn't too sloppy either.
I think it will depend on the bird.
Also the girl friend came on a hawk day with me and fell in love with the owls.
(with the amout of time i expect to put into the bird. It will be great if she can work a bird too).
Palmer
12-03-2006, 12:51 PM
Well i wouldn't just go for the "easy" option mate, because if/when you get that bird flying well you may want the one you wanted at the very begining. Then you will maybe be stuck with a bird that you don't really want, and that is unfair on the bird. I would go for the bird you want, not one that you may think is going to be easy.
CheeseStraws
12-03-2006, 01:08 PM
Well i wouldn't just go for the "easy" option mate, because if/when you get that bird flying well you may want the one you wanted at the very begining. Then you will maybe be stuck with a bird that you don't really want, and that is unfair on the bird. I would go for the bird you want, not one that you may think is going to be easy.
True,
Although at this stage i am unsure how much of the performace of the bird is down to the falconer or the birds own personality... maybe you could help me with this.
I would want a bird that i could work and push giving the bird and myself enjoyment.
Thanks for your help on the land question.
Do most farmers ask for a small donation?
Palmer
12-03-2006, 01:12 PM
Well "my" farmer gives me hay for my ferrets, to go on his land and kill some bunny's hes got so many. I have a 1st year male harris and they are extreamly good birds very clever, i think i would describe them with my limited experiance as "all rounders" much the same as a red tail, but i believe red tails to be more agressive and faster? But i mean you would have to speak to somebody who has delt with a few types of bird.
I love my harris. He does what i want him to do, he kills rabbits, very well behaved, has had one fezzy.
CheeseStraws
12-03-2006, 01:20 PM
Well "my" farmer gives me hay for my ferrets, to go on his land and kill some bunny's hes got so many. I have a 1st year male harris and they are extreamly good birds very clever, i think i would describe them with my limited experiance as "all rounders" much the same as a red tail, but i believe red tails to be more agressive and faster? But i mean you would have to speak to somebody who has delt with a few types of bird.
I love my harris. He does what i want him to do, he kills rabbits, very well behaved, has had one fezzy.
Really.
Well sounds like you have a good relationship there.
Were are you based ?
Do you have a local area were you can fly or do you have to travel?
Palmer
12-03-2006, 01:22 PM
Oxford, The farm is right next door.
But that isn't the only place i fly him a have permission all around. Even some now in wales!
Trappa
12-03-2006, 01:23 PM
It might be wise to get permission first, then work out what bird would suit the terrain and abundant quarry.
IE:If lots of woodland and squirrel-FHH or RT
if plenty of rabbit-FHH/MHH/RT
plenty of pheasant-FHH
You get the drift. al
Palmer
12-03-2006, 01:25 PM
Alan arnt MHH better in woodland than females?
CheeseStraws
12-03-2006, 01:49 PM
ok,
Now i am going to show how new i am.
for a first bird are females or males better ?
Why would males be better than females in woodland
Trappa
12-03-2006, 03:06 PM
Alan arnt MHH better in woodland than females?
What I mean is just hawking squirrel and nothing else you would need a FHH/RT.
Kentish Falconry
12-03-2006, 03:15 PM
Help.
This is my first post. I am thinking about getting my first bird. but before i go down that road i want to make sure i know what i am getting myself into!
Cheese
Hi Cheesestraws.......... Welcome to the MadHouse or the IFF hope you find all the info you are looking for here.
Would you please fill in your profile so we have a little info about you and where you are. It makes life a lot easier when we know and someone may be close enough to invite you to see their birds and talk face to face
ATB
Terry:supz:
Intek Hosting
12-03-2006, 06:42 PM
ok,
for a first bird are females or males better ?
Why would males be better than females in woodland
Hi, welcome to the forum.
I chose a female Harris as my first birds as the body weight is higher giving a better margin for error when youre first getting the hang of weight control.
She's a lot more powerful than a male harris and I will probably get a male for my wife to work with.
The males are about a third smaller than females and as such more agile and able to fly in cover. Not that females have too much trouble in woodland.
Most males I've seen tame really well and are easy to work around their feet.
My female is a bit quick with her feet. Something I think I can get out of her with manning next season.
I cant advise you at all on the redtail, my mentor has flown them and really likes them. Really determined hunters but he flies a harris after like 20 years which tells me you cant go far wrong with the harris.
I would try and find someone nearby and ask if you can come along hunting with then. Get yourself a proper falconry glove so you can handle their birds safely while youre out.
Ask them or post on here to find a breeder you can trust!!!
Its funny I ordered my bird almost a year ago to the day and I only collected her the 19th September at 21 weeks old.
Dont rush out and get the first bird you can lay your hands on.
Do you have a proper mews or aviary to keep the bird in? If you do already it might be worth posting a good description or better a photo so you can find out if its suitable for the bird.
Seriously I keep parrots and I really did think you could keep a BOP in a wire cage.
Then again I also thought you had to be related to the queen to be allowed to own one.
(No jokes on that, but then as I South African I did think the problems in Northern Ireland was because the catholics didnt like protitutes :) when I first moved here like 10 years ago)
Rocky
12-03-2006, 07:26 PM
Welcome Cheesestraw,
Whereabouts in Derbyshire are you,if your not to far away i'll gladly help you out if your that much interested into falconry.
Mel
Palmer
12-03-2006, 07:44 PM
What I mean is just hawking squirrel and nothing else you would need a FHH/RT.
Ow ok
GregMik
15-03-2006, 04:40 PM
Moved to the correct forum
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