Handling Forum Threads

[Hawkmaster]

Can we see how the members feel threads should be handled by the moderators?

I feel a thread belongs to the initial poster, that coupled with the title is put in an appropriate place on the forum in its correct section.

Now if someone comes along and cocks it up and either goes off topic by a long way, mods can split the thread and start up a new one from that.

A bit of friendly called for playful chat may seem OK but can kill a thread. You know the one line banter cracks that lead to turmoil, squabbling and personal outbursts. Not say no joking or banter, they can be included if appropriate and friendly in an accompanied relevant posting too, surely?

OK so all this considered and what you may have to add let see how the offending posts are to be dealt with?

[Osiris]

Can we see how the members feel threads should be handled by the moderators?

I feel a thread belongs to the initial poster, that coupled with the title is put in an appropriate place on the forum in its correct section.

Now if someone comes along and cocks it up and either goes off topic by a long way, mods can split the thread and start up a new one from that.

A bit of friendly called for playful chat may seem OK but can kill a thread. You know the one line banter cracks that lead to turmoil, squabbling and personal outbursts. Not say no joking or banter, they can be included if appropriate and friendly in an accompanied relevant posting too, surely?

OK so all this considered and what you may have to add let see how the offending posts are to be dealt with?

All really offending posts should be, in my opinion, either amended or deleted.

Chit chat should be remained either in the Chat room which is at our disposal, the Club18 or Club17 forums etc. Not in the thread created by someone asking for advice etc...

HTH

[Freddie1]

I feel that they should be deleted!!!!!!

[Boobook]

I think the only way to stop these posts is to hand out temporary bans (1 week?) to those who hijack a thread or deliberately post to wind up others.

People will soon get the idea :wink:

[Shannor]

I think you should ask them to remove it. If they refuse to, or fail to, delete it. Perhaps repeat offenders who refuse to remove it should be banned or blocked from posting for a period of time increasing with each offense?

[Mr_Colin]

I think the posts should be deleted and the orginator informed as to why, either in the thread or Pm so hopefully it will make them think. If people get too personal maybe we should have a 3 strikes and a temp ban for a week. Just image the amount of posts they would have to sift through after a week.

[Hells99]

I think you should ask them to remove it. If they refuse to, or fail to, delete it. Perhaps repeat offenders who refuse to remove it should be banned or blocked from posting for a period of time increasing with each offense?
Good point, allows people to calm down and reflect a little.

[Dave G]

ask the offender to delete if this is not carried out then the mods should carrie it out for them

[ColdZero]

obviously disruptive posts being deleted is fine, but now posts are being deleted everywhere! whats the point? I have a read a thread, and hour later it is unrecognisable. All threads go off topic and usually go back, but just deleting every imperfect post is ridiculous...

[Isla]

I think you should ask them to remove it. If they refuse to, or fail to, delete it. Perhaps repeat offenders who refuse to remove it should be banned or blocked from posting for a period of time increasing with each offense?

I agree 100%!

[Kentish Falconry]

ask the offender to delete if this is not carried out then the mods should carrie it out for them

I agree with this one but I also think temperary bans could be used to good effect if the problem keeps happening after several warnings
Terry

[Dave G]

I agree with this one but I also think temperary bans could be used to good effect if the problem keeps happening after several warnings
Terry
bang on terry lets get out the yellow and red card system see if this does any good :)

[ColdZero]

I think you should ask them to remove it. If they refuse to, or fail to, delete it. Perhaps repeat offenders who refuse to remove it should be banned or blocked from posting for a period of time increasing with each offense?

why ask if you will do it anyway?

[Shannor]

To give them a chance to do it themselves, and to make them think about what they're posting. The best way to moderate is to encourage people to self-moderate :)

[CooperMan]

I agree with this one but I also think temperary bans could be used to good effect if the problem keeps happening after several warnings
Terry
i'd agree, if the posts are offensive abusive, just plain pointless and going off topic then something needs to be done to stop it.
My only worry would be that we loose some of the banter which makes alot of the posts entertaining as well as informative. Some nights I have been crying with laughter and picking up useful info. Where do we strike the balance?

[Hells99]

why ask if you will do it anyway?
That's very negative thinking CZ, let's try and get something positive going here, negativity never built anything. We have a chance to say how the forum is run, let's take advantage of it and make it a better place. :yawinkle:

[GoodFooter]

i'd agree, if the posts are offensive abusive, just plain pointless and going off topic then something needs to be done to stop it.
My only worry would be that we loose some of the banter which makes alot of the posts entertaining as well as informative. Some nights I have been crying with laughter and picking up useful info. Where do we strike the balance?
totally agree!! that is what the mod are for though! its it is truely offensive get it off staight away .... if it is just going off thread a quiet posting from the mods should bring it back on line..... for my opinion most seem to be doing a great job:P

[UKJay's Nursey]

this is a toughie, imo it depends on the actual content of post, if abusive etc then delete it leave a note saying deleted and pm the person and author of thread to let them know,

if just just contains swearing through humor etc then edit and pm both parties.

[Hawkmaster]

We also do not want to make the mods work much more than it already is. so all those Pms are a pain, but if it has to be done I suppose?:roll:

[UKJay's Nursey]

lol pm'ing them from the start 2 pm's saves having to reply to countless pm's when they dissappear and no one knows where or why :D

[Hawkmaster]

Another concern though is the speed of which this forum moves. By the time you have PMed they get it all hell can break loose!

I say just delete it, people should know better.

[Mr_Colin]

We also do not want to make the mods work much more than it already is. so all those Pms are a pain, but if it has to be done I suppose?:roll:

If mods are looking after their own area's then surely their work load has already been reduced. If I was a mod I would have a Mods template set up so I can just edit name and subject matter and post on, not too difficult to arrange as you mods are all inteligent people. Maybe Sparrow can organise a way for mods to have a pm template base to call upon when the needs arise.

Just my thoughts.

Col

[Boobook]

We also do not want to make the mods work much more than it already is. so all those Pms are a pain, but if it has to be done I suppose?:roll:

I think you'll find that once people realise there is the threat of being banned the amount of work for the mods will magically reduce ( lets face it if the offenders are banned they cannot take up any of the mods time for the cool-off period ;) )

[Dave G]

if its bad then stick them in the delet bin if its going off track post saying so

[Mr_Colin]

Another concern though is the speed of which this forum moves. By the time you have PMed they get it all hell can break loose!

I say just delete it, people should know better.

Answer is to put a temporary lock on the thread, pm, then unlock and monitor.

[Hells99]

But how can you expect to make your job easier if you don't allow people to learn to regulate themselves? People will soon learn to stop and think before they hit the submit button IF you allow them to.

[Hawkmaster]

Good I like that, what about an off thread little banner icon thing, like a smiley that everone can use?

I am sure UKJay can find us a cool one? That way everyone helps too?

[Mr_Colin]

Good I like that, what about an off thread little banner icon thing, like a smiley that everone can use?

I am sure UKJay can find us a cool one? That way everyone helps too?

which is this an answer to?

[Bod]

I think the mods should PM the individual requesting the offensive comment etc be removed immediately if they are online. If not then by all means remove the item but tell the individual concerned it has been removed via a PM.

[CooperMan]

is there any need for a PM to notify the offending postie they should know better

[GoodFooter]

If you go down the route of asking the offender to remove..... how long are your going to give them????? this sounds like it could be difficult to police! and yet more work for the mods.... taking it off with an automated warning would be easier and more practicable.

[Boobook]

If you go down the route of asking the offender to remove..... how long are your going to give them????? this sounds like it could be difficult to police! and yet more work for the mods.... taking it off with an automated warning would be easier and more practicable.
:D
the best way i've seen is for mods to themselves quickly edit the post, removing the offensive comment and leaving a note for the poster in it's place

eg.
"********** comment deleted **********

poster please do not continue in this thread or be banned."

This way there is no delay with PMs etc.

[UKJay74]

something likes these paul

[GoodFooter]

:D
the best way i've seen is for mods to themselves quickly edit the post, removing the offensive comment and leaving a note for the poster in it's place

eg.
"********** comment deleted **********

poster please do not continue in this thread or be banned."

This way there is no delay with PMs etc.
perfect!!!!:D

[GoodFooter]

something likes these paul
even better!!!!:lol:

[GoodFooter]

something likes these paul
even better!!!!:lol: this would calm the situation with a bit of humour to boot!!!

[Barbary Boy]

ive been warned a few times by mods to settle down a bit and think this is quite enough, i like the banter and have made some good freinds with people who ive crossed swords with, i think the mods can be a bit to quick at times to lock a thread like the poll someone ran to see who was the biggest ****** him or me? i really wanted to see that one through to the end! now ill never know.

[Isla]

:D
the best way i've seen is for mods to themselves quickly edit the post, removing the offensive comment and leaving a note for the poster in it's place

eg.
"********** comment deleted **********

poster please do not continue in this thread or be banned."

This way there is no delay with PMs etc.

Spot on! Quick and effective.

Love the icons Jay!

[UKJay74]

Some More

[Hawkmaster]

Nice one Jay the icons are what I had in mind, especially if everyone uses them.

I still know the PMing thing will take too long and therefore things will get out of hand.

[UKJay74]

and more

[Hawkmaster]

SWEET:supz:

[GoodFooter]

some great ideas have come out of this thread albeit started from another! Are they going to be implemented.... talking about it is good...doing it is better!:!:

[UKJay74]

some great ideas have come out of this thread albeit started from another! Are they going to be implemented.... talking about it is good...doing it is better!:!:
Alot of things have been brought up and suggested amongst the mods and hopefully with a little time they will be all implemented:supz:

watch this space i think is the phrase:lol:

[GoodFooter]

Alot of things have been brought up and suggested amongst the mods and hopefully with a little time they will be all implemented:supz:

watch this space i think is the phrase:lol:
Best get your copyright out on those new icon things!!!

[UKJay74]

lol nah can get them off the net just search smiley packs and the likes :D had em on one of the p.c's here from when placed on my site

[Mr_Colin]

too late

[UKJay74]

and one more for those who add reputation to someone

[Mr_Colin]

Oh yeah

[Hawkmaster]

Good, I suppose a Rep Down will not do anything except cause hassles:?:

[UKJay74]

Oh yeah
and its used for the first time :D hopefully sparrow will intergrate these with the forum smilies so it looks better than adding attachments

Sorry for adding to your work load sparrow:twisted:

[Mr_Colin]

I might have to take your point away now as Mods are supposed to take work away from Sparrow, lol. Just kidding,

[Pitbull]

i think if anything is deleted due too what ever reason there should be a post in its place to say why, on an edited version, as this will then tell others what kind of posts are being deleted.

[UKJay74]

i think if anything is deleted due too what ever reason there should be a post in its place to say why, on an edited version, as this will then tell others what kind of posts are being deleted.
on all the forums i have run/moderated before this has always been the case delete post and put reason good point though may stop peeps getting confused with why posts are missing

[GosFlyer]

ide like to know which one of you took kylie off one of my posts spoil sports.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Yarak1]

If people can't reply to a thread without getting personal and giving derogartory comments then they should keep their comments to themselves...............

If someone disagrees with a thread that is fine..but disagree in an adult way ............all the slagging off that goes on helps no-one and takes away the topic that should have been discussed.

This forum should be about those needing to learn receiving help from those with the experience to help them.....Also those with GOOD knowledge and experience imparting it to people so that they can progress in falconry.

All the ****** comments from people should be deleted straight away.

Everybody should bear in mind that they had to start at the beginning in falconry and needed help to do it.........Lets help them that are starting out now and are joining the forum to get help........

After all it is up to the individual to either take the advice given or discard it.

If a thread is posted and it is deemed to be a load of ***** and detrimental to the forum just delete it.......... That is up to the moderators to sort out...

So lets help those that need it ( and that's all of us from time to time, nobody knows it all) and have a bloody good forum and cut out all the ******** and backbiting, otherwise there is no point in being on here.......

That's what I think anyway!!!!

[UKJay74]

If people can't reply to a thread without getting personal and giving derogartory comments then they should keep their comments to themselves...............

If someone disagrees with a thread that is fine..but disagree in an adult way ............all the slagging off that goes on helps no-one and takes away the topic that should have been discussed.

This forum should be about those needing to learn receiving help from those with the experience to help them.....Also those with GOOD knowledge and experience imparting it to people so that they can progress in falconry.

All the ****** comments from people should be deleted straight away.

Everybody should bear in mind that they had to start at the beginning in falconry and needed help to do it.........Lets help them that are starting out now and are joining the forum to get help........

After all it is up to the individual to either take the advice given or discard it.

If a thread is posted and it is deemed to be a load of ***** and detrimental to the forum just delete it.......... That is up to the moderators to sort out...

So lets help those that need it ( and that's all of us from time to time, nobody knows it all) and have a bloody good forum and cut out all the ******** and backbiting, otherwise there is no point in being on here.......

That's what I think anyway!!!!

i have to say you have made a very valid post there mate and should be thought about
people should think b4 they post and the likes

spot on :supz:

[Yarak1]

Cheers Jay.took a long time with 1 finger lol........

[Yarak1]

Lets have peoples opinions as to whether they agree with this!!!

If people can't reply to a thread without getting personal and giving derogartory comments then they should keep their comments to themselves...............

If someone disagrees with a thread that is fine..but disagree in an adult way ............all the slagging off that goes on helps no-one and takes away the topic that should have been discussed.

This forum should be about those needing to learn receiving help from those with the experience to help them.....Also those with GOOD knowledge and experience imparting it to people so that they can progress in falconry.

All the ****** comments from people should be deleted straight away.

Everybody should bear in mind that they had to start at the beginning in falconry and needed help to do it.........Lets help them that are starting out now and are joining the forum to get help........

After all it is up to the individual to either take the advice given or discard it.

If a thread is posted and it is deemed to be a load of ***** and detrimental to the forum just delete it.......... That is up to the moderators to sort out...

So lets help those that need it ( and that's all of us from time to time, nobody knows it all) and have a bloody good forum and cut out all the ******** and backbiting, otherwise there is no point in being on here.......

This should be a forum with adult discussions not a bloody great nursery school with kids bickering and bullying people.............

That's what I think anyway!!!!

[HawkMan]

I think your right in a way but god i think we should be able to post something funny every now and then ,i think your going to politically correct .
you,ll lose a lot of people who come on everyday just to browse and put the odd dissaproving comment or some funny or even disaggreeing comments on ,so you want people to take comments off people who dont have a clue on how to keep birds properly ,everyone has different opinions and people need to choose what they thinks right ,
Jb

[Yarak1]

Read the post properly...it says " people who have Good knowledge imparting advice!!!!!!!!!!

[Yarak1]

where does it say in my post about not posting anything funny?

This is half the problem mate....people don't read the posts properly and absorb it before replying to it!!!

[Palmer]

Alright mate.
Just chill

[Yarak1]

I am , been out all day flying birds!!!

Wasn't being personal just general!!

[HawkMan]

Im sorry ive only just learnt to read ,silly me its my comment dont put me down or is it to politically correct to have an opinion on here ya muppet ?
Jb

[HawkMan]

Yarak you going that falconry fair this year near telford ill meet you there and we can talk this through seems abit daft on here you losing ya head ,
Thanks
Jb
Send a photo

[Isla]

Sticking my neck out on this one but isn't there a thread already going about how to handle crappy posts - one run by a Mod that will actually achieve something?

It seems that we are spending more time ******** about people who are ******** (me included - I had a rant this morning) than actually posting about falconry.

Let's just get back to talking about birds!

[Yarak1]

Grow up and spit out your dummy!

[Palmer]

Sticking my neck out on this one but isn't there a thread already going about how to handle crappy posts - one run by a Mod that will actually achieve something?

It seems that we are spending more time ******** about people who are ******** (me included - I had a rant this morning) than actually posting about falconry.

Let's just get back to talking about birds!


Totally agree!

[Yarak1]

Sticking my neck out on this one but isn't there a thread already going about how to handle crappy posts - one run by a Mod that will actually achieve something?

It seems that we are spending more time ******** about people who are ******** (me included - I had a rant this morning) than actually posting about falconry.

Let's just get back to talking about birds!

I was just stating my opinion about what I thought this forum should be about.............

What is wrong with what I posted?

[Yarak1]

And I totally agree with you about getting back to talking about birds..

[Saker-Mad]

Sticking my neck out on this one but isn't there a thread already going about how to handle crappy posts - one run by a Mod that will actually achieve something?

It seems that we are spending more time ******** about people who are ******** (me included - I had a rant this morning) than actually posting about falconry.

Let's just get back to talking about birds!

i agree!

[Yarak1]

So we all agree...brilliant!!

[Palmer]

Ok this forum is about what we all love- FALCONRY- we can have the odd joke etc but lets leave the arguing out.

[Yarak1]

so has anyone been out flying today?

[Yarak1]

wife has shouted dinner!!!.............back later.......cheers

[Palmer]

Bird is up for moult!:cry:

[Hawkmaster]

Come on guys lets keep on thread here, which WILL BE MOVED DUE TO BEING POSTED IN THE WRONG PLACE.

Nobody saids you can't have a laugh Johnny as long as it is part of the thread and is not just banter for banters sake?

We want to keep personal attack against people out to like the one you made to Yarak1 calling him a Muppet. Now I know you and would only laugh it off, he is obviously intelligent enough to know you are joking too, but others may not and this is how trouble starts. So we all just need to think how our posts will affect others.

Now back to keeping this on thread now guys as the initial posting had nothing to do with flying bird.

[HawkMan]

Why did he Pm me saying i should be warned not to threaten him what threats have i made, i said ill see you at the falconry fair send a photo ?
i was going to have a pint with the man ?????????????
Gets me ??????????
Jb
Muppet means a bit dizzy as a joke where i come from ???

[ChakChek]

yarak....surely you kicking off over such a trival thing as JB misreaing your thread makes you as much of a goon as any other person that you were referring to when you started thread?

i say just deal with any flack that gets thrown about, at the ebd of the day we are all sodding grown ups and if we catn take a bit of stick on the net, within reason, then what the hell is wrong with us?!

[Palmer]

It was very close to a threat you obveusly didn't mean you would have a pint with him. There aint no point in lying!

[Yarak1]

chak-chek we obviously differ as to how we take things..........

if you want a ****** forum carry on............

[HawkMan]

must be hiding behind his true name ???????????????

[ChakChek]

chak-chek we obviously differ as to how we take things..........

if you want a ****** forum carry on............

well no, why on earth would i want a ****** forum? that would just be daft now wouldnt it

way i see it, you have painted a picture that makes the forum out to be a war zone which it is far from. the arguments are hardly anything to be kicking up a fuss over and it most certainly isnt at any point of making the entire forum ******.

fair enough it would be better without the little digs and the likes, but nothing perfect is it and i dont see its that bigger deal myself

[Hawkmaster]

Yarak1, I know who you are and many others too but if you fill in your profile you simply eliminate those kind of comments.

[Big JoeJoe]

It was very close to a threat you obveusly didn't mean you would have a pint with him. There aint no point in lying!

He said he wanted a pint with him why should JB be lying?

[Palmer]

Have you read the threads before that?

[Big JoeJoe]

Have you read the threads before that?

Yes I have

[Palmer]

Well it looks like a threat to me!

[OutFlying]

I think the thread title sums up this thread perfectly "Opinions"

Everyone is entitled to one as long as it is within reason.

Jim.

[HawkMan]

It was very close to a threat you obveusly didn't mean you would have a pint with him. There aint no point in lying!
Do you know me m8 ,have i ever had a pint with you /???????????gets me
I meant what i said had i meant anything else i would of said it ,people reading to much or to little .
I think Pm yarak sent me was more threatening ??????????think what you want im a gentleman till pushed ?????????????????????????
Jb

[ChakChek]

I think the thread title sums up this thread perfectly "Opinions"

Everyone is entitled to one as long as it is within reason.

Jim.

here here:supz:

[Palmer]

Right wateva. I would rather just everyone stopped being complete ***** including me and went back to the old forum way, you know the one where people talked about falconry.

[Big JoeJoe]

Well it looks like a threat to me!

Well it didn't look like a threat to me thats my opinion HH know hard feelings fella.

[Hawkmaster]

I have got to know Johnny and his ways over the past 2 years and I think he actually meant what he said and it was not a thread at all.

He would just say that . . . .:D

[HawkMan]

Paul ya right what i say i mean ,im sorry for winding you up before ,just twatting ya head like you was doing mine ,editing me post ,
No hard feelings paul knew i trained a african spotted eagle owl before he sold me the redtail .sorry if ive offended you ,me being a ******** having some bud down me ,apologies to paul (hawkmaster ).
Jb

[StormRider]

Ive read this post right through now and cannot believe that yet again an all out war has started. I can see that the thread by Yarak starts out with a very simple message about how he percieves the forum from the time he has spent on it. Its not hard to understand how he feels like this considering how he became involved with this forum in the first place. His business was directly attacked with the use of third hand incorrect and misinformed allegations and he felt it necessary to join the forum and redress the situation. I think if the tables were turned there would be some on here that would do much more than what he has done. Sometimes we have to remember that not all on here are private individuals and that some do make a living from their interests. If someone was trying to take away my living I would fight back also.
I have to be honest now and say that the fun has gone from this forum because of all the fighting going on. This is by no means the fault of the MODs. We are all adults and should be able to recognise all this. If I was a beginner coming into this tradition and I came onto this forum I would have second thoughts about getting involved altogether. Fortunately I have seen how falconry should be in terms of meeting and learning from decent people who care about how it is portrayed to the uninitiated.
I think its about time now that we had some decent banter with a bit of falconry inbetween.

By the way Big Joe Joe, when is the wedding do? I need a good night on the ****.
STU

[Gwaihir]

Ive read this post right through now and cannot believe that yet again an all out war has started. I can see that the thread by Yarak starts out with a very simple message about how he percieves the forum from the time he has spent on it. Its not hard to understand how he feels like this considering how he became involved with this forum in the first place. His business was directly attacked with the use of third hand incorrect and misinformed allegations and he felt it necessary to join the forum and redress the situation. I think if the tables were turned there would be some on here that would do much more than what he has done. Sometimes we have to remember that not all on here are private individuals and that some do make a living from their interests. If someone was trying to take away my living I would fight back also.
I have to be honest now and say that the fun has gone from this forum because of all the fighting going on. This is by no means the fault of the MODs. We are all adults and should be able to recognise all this. If I was a beginner coming into this tradition and I came onto this forum I would have second thoughts about getting involved altogether. Fortunately I have seen how falconry should be in terms of meeting and learning from decent people who care about how it is portrayed to the uninitiated.
I think its about time now that we had some decent banter with a bit of falconry inbetween.
STU

Hear Hear

John M

[HawkMan]

I think yaraks been a bit over angry as i said nothing to threaten him only id meet him at the fair (not ive been out with his birds all day ?
Tell me wrong but i didnt threaten him ,he sent me threaten him Pm ,dont bully me m8 you dont know me ??????????????
think what you want im not threaten you ?
Jb

[Yarak1]

Why don't you just leave it be?

As for hiding behind a name...........my details are there for you to see..........

[HawkMan]

Im not arguing m8 ,just that i thought you was a bit confrontational with me before when i posted ,ill get into any topic and talk all night but i dont like being made out to be something im not .
Dont read a book by its cover it could be a very bad read ??????????????
Jb take care

[Yarak1]

Hi Stu, good to talk to you yesterday.

If I can be of help to your new project then that would be great.

The invitation to come down still stands and it would be good to meet up.
Cheers,
John.

[Yarak1]

So lets just leave it right there then............. no hard feelings!

[HawkMan]

Ill meet up with you as well yarak i may stutter a bit but what the **** im still clever ,lot clever then most people ,
you need to chill m8
Lifes to short Preach what you say
lol
Take care

[North East Harris Hawker]

there are a lot of bickering threads on here, there are also lots of threads that are utter sheeite, if they do your nut in so much then copy and paste the url and send it to any of the mods.
I f you send me a thread and i read it, AND it appears to be a crock, I'll delete it! cant say fairer than that!

[Coedhirion]

All really offending posts should be, in my opinion, either amended or deleted.

Chit chat should be remained either in the Chat room which is at our disposal, the Club18 or Club17 forums etc. Not in the thread created by someone asking for advice etc...

HTH
:supz: :supz: :supz:

[Hawkmaster]

ide like to know which one of you took kylie off one of my posts spoil sports.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I did as there were children watching but never mind she is safe now hidden in my piccies:heart:

No really post her in the Club 18s with even less clothes if you like.

See a section for everything?:lol:

[Big JoeJoe]

I think it's fine just the way it is. Why try to fix somthing that aint broke? There are always going to be some issues that crop up that are off thread but it gets dealt with most of the time. How far do we go with change is it heading towards Big Brother on a public forum? I dislike the thought of being stopped for somthing I may disagree on and I disagreeing my way.

Are we going to move on and have a falconry forum template that tells us the wording of your sentence dosn't fit the bill you cant post that. Come on its a good forum the way it is why are people being so negative about it?

Cheers Joe

[IAmTheWeasel]

Well folks, I have been an admin on my own site and I am now a Mod on here. You won't see me randomly deleteing post, but you will see me try to curb a thread that has gotten to the point of being offensive to a majority. Fact is, you can't please everyone, all you can do is try to please as many at a time as you can. All the folks on here just bi***ing about the way the forum is, understand that we could do everything you want, but that would one serve to make someone else bi**h about it. Remember, we are all volunteers here and we are NOT able to do evrything on our own. We the mods and admins, need everyones help to keep this fantastic forum running as smooth as possible.
Thanks,
Weasel