Harris hawk with a broken beak [Archive] - International Falconry Forum (IFF)

BrokenBeak

19-03-2006, 01:22 AM

I have a 3 year old male harris who got zapped on a hydro wire. Upper mandible separated from the cere. Now it has a huge gap. the bird still eats, bite size pieces and has no other ill effects from the experience. there is some regrowth of the beak but not much yet. does anyone know about how long it take for the beak to grow back? Is there a chance that it will grow back normally, if at all?

GregMik

19-03-2006, 01:29 AM

Brokenbeak,
First off welcome to the forum. You should post something in the introduction forum.
How long have you had this bird and how long has it been since this accident happened? I am not sure if it is going to grow back naturally or not. I would call the Raptor Center in St. Paul Minnesota. They would be able to answer your questions and help you out.

http://www.raptor.cvm.umn.edu/

Greg

Kevin Massey

19-03-2006, 01:34 AM

welcome.

i have moved the thread to where it may get viewed by the right members, that may be able to give you advice bud.

must say though un-usual user name...and an un-usual first post.

BrokenBeak

19-03-2006, 01:37 AM

thanks Gregmik

I have taken him to the raptor rehabillitation center here in Ontario. The director sent away cultures and did tests for bacteria. also the bird was put on antibiotics and also an antifungal just in case of infection. It has been a little over a year since the accident. He has a little regrowth coming up out of the bottom of the cere, but anyone I have talked to or written to really has no information for me. Buzz( the bird) is spoiled rotten and he is in quite good shape besides the beak. The raptor rehab lady says that she has never in all her years een anything like it and he should be fine if he continues to eat. Well he is a pig and spoiled rotten. and his feather are beautiful. But he looks like a mutant, and He and I are anxious to get out hunting.

Talon

19-03-2006, 01:44 AM

would it be possible to put a photo of your birds beak.

oh sorry .....welcome to the forum have a good time.

BrokenBeak

19-03-2006, 02:05 AM

I need to know how to post a picture

GregMik

19-03-2006, 02:11 AM

Here ya go.....take a look at that thread

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8342

Greg

Sprout

19-03-2006, 02:35 AM

A year and no growth? I had a spar who lost its upper mandible, took 6 months to regrown back to normal. If not growing back after this time I suspect it wont.

BrokenBeak

19-03-2006, 03:27 AM

I think that i have attached 2 pictures to this post

GregMik

19-03-2006, 03:31 AM

Man that looks nasty!! Hope it works out for him. I would be carefull hunting also...Looks like that end could break off if he crashes hard.

Greg

BrokenBeak

19-03-2006, 03:33 AM

here is a clearer picture of the beak

BrokenBeak

19-03-2006, 03:41 AM

My wife adores him and she won't let me hunt him incase his beak get more broken. She says that it has no integrity and I have to be very careful with him. So he lived in ove laundry room all of last winter and now we have moved him out to his muse. Newly renovated with all the luxuries of home. He eats his prey in bites sizes and off of a plate. He is feather perfect bit a mutant. And he love the kids and is very gentle. So we treat him like a king.

Biarmicus

19-03-2006, 03:46 AM

Hello,

I was reading your posts regarding your Harris hawks beak. I was wondering if you have ever heard of the Discovery Channel story about the Bald Eagle that lost its beak called "Brian's New Beak" ? A dentist in Vancouver B.C. was able to rebuild the eagle's beak with dentistry techniques. The dentist's name is Brian Andrews and the story regarding the eagle is at this link: http://exn.ca/Stories/2002/10/10/51.asp .

Perhaps you can contact him if needed?

Brittney

BrokenBeak

19-03-2006, 03:49 AM

thank you thank you I have been looking for that story for many months. when I called the discovery channel they could not give me any information. this has really been a frusterating time for us as we know that help can be had but could not find the right people to talk to. Even our local raptor rehabilitation center knew about the eagle but could not provide us with any furthter information. Once again thank you very much for the info.

Iamtheweasel

19-03-2006, 09:02 AM

I think that i have attached 2 pictures to this post
HOLY **** that looks wierd!!!! Damn I hope that heals up well!

Iamtheweasel

19-03-2006, 09:05 AM

Wow, The balds beak looks almost exactly like the Harris's Hopefully this will lead to a successful treatment....Good luck!

StormRider

19-03-2006, 10:34 AM

Yo man. Welcome to the forum. Sad to see those pictures. Must be some determined bird in flight to sustain such an injury.
I have taken a print of your picture and have shown it a friend of mine who carves and makes resin models for Disney. He says that if the beak does not regrow it would be very easy to make a prosthetic piece which will glue in. If you cannot find a local dentist to do the job I would suggest that you try and get the bird used to hooding. This will allow you to manipulate the beak without stressing the bird. You could then take a female mould yourself using dry set putty. You could possibly even buy the putty from your dentist. Once the mould is made, you take a male plaster cast. You then create your prosthetic piece using cast acrylic resin from this male section.
STU

BrianM

19-03-2006, 10:38 AM

hi mate ,, ive seen beaks repaired before useing a non toxic filler ,, similar to auto repair cataloy,,,,, it can be filled then buffed down ,,,, worth asking about

Kevin Massey

19-03-2006, 11:03 AM

http://www.colyerinstitute.org/clinical_care/case_i.htm

Midland hawker

19-03-2006, 11:13 AM

hi brokenbeak welcome to the iff hope u like it here any thing u need to no some one will sure give u advice :supz: the bird still looks great

K8i

19-03-2006, 11:51 AM

hi! :grin: aww the poor thing thatlooks nasty :cry:

hope it heals properlly

kate :-)

Kennelre

19-03-2006, 02:45 PM

Hello and welcome...what an amazing bird to manage to deal with that, and you and your family to be so dedicated to helping him. Other people's posts would suggest that the answer lies somewhere between Disney and the Dentist! I really, really hope it works out and that you will post a picture of the job done.....Good luck!

Sprout

19-03-2006, 02:49 PM

Using a filler is a good idea especially if thyere is no evidence of new growth at all. However, be careful, a lot of fillers/resins give off heat as they cure which can be damaging to the rest of the beak so ensure you use a resin/filler that doesn;t give out heat.

Kennelre

19-03-2006, 06:06 PM

A year and no growth? I had a spar who lost its upper mandible, took 6 months to regrown back to normal. If not growing back after this time I suspect it wont.

Was your bird okay for hunting after succesful regrowth.....and do you have an opinion on this particular bird's hunting potentional consequent to succesful treatment intervention? I'm imagining that hunting would potentially be a long time away, if at all.

Sprout

19-03-2006, 08:10 PM

The spar was 100% once it had regrown - the outlook for this bird doesn;t look good for hunting though, unless it does re-grow.

BrokenBeak

19-03-2006, 09:11 PM

I am very hesitant to hunt Buzz as we are very afraid of the beak breaking totally off. There has been some regrowth around the base right by the cere but it seems to be pushing the rest of the mandible forward, but not growing up. if it does regrow I fear that it will not fill in totally to the top of the cere. With little integrity on the beak my buddy will have to spend the rest of his days being hand fed and treated like a king. I have written the discovery channel about Brian and am awaiting an answer about how to rebuild the beak. Thanks again for the information. If we can find a dentist in the area to take on such a endeavor with the help of our vet, it would truely be wonderful. He is such a kind soul and very gentle. So I think that he will allow us to help him if possible.

Sprout

19-03-2006, 09:13 PM

Speak to Pat Redig at Minnesota - he might be able to help

GregMik

19-03-2006, 09:22 PM

Speak to Pat Redig at Minnesota - he might be able to help

Here is his website
http://www.raptor.cvm.umn.edu/

Greg

Sprout

19-03-2006, 09:27 PM

Was hoping you'd do that Greg!!!!!

Biarmicus

19-03-2006, 11:38 PM

Biarmicus

19-03-2006, 11:52 PM

Brokenbeak,

Earlier I sent you a Private Message (PM) regarding the dentist Dr. Brian Andrews who worked on the Bald Eagle in B.C. Just curious if you got it?

Brittney :)

Here is the information that was on the Private Message:

Here is a phone number and address:

Andrews R B Dr
450 Franklyn Street,
Nanaimo, BC V9R 2X7
Tel. : 250-753-8033

I just hope this is the correct Dr. B. Andrews...

Hope this helps,

Brittney

BrokenBeak

20-03-2006, 02:07 AM

thanks soooo much I'll check into this name and get back to you on weather this is the right dr. thanks again

Biarmicus

20-03-2006, 07:49 PM

thanks soooo much I'll check into this name and get back to you on weather this is the right dr. thanks again

No problem,

Even if the Dr. B. Andrews could explain the procedure to a local dentist over the phone or e-mail would be great.

Good luck, ;)

Brittney

BrokenBeak

20-03-2006, 10:11 PM

You are a mind reader I was saying the exact same thing to my wife last night. Our dentist does cosmetic dentistry and if dr andrews could explain it to the dentist and the vet then we would be in luck. I have put in a call and am waiting for a reply. Thanks again

Kitana

20-03-2006, 10:16 PM

There is also Dr Guy Fitzgerald at the BoP clinic of the university of Montreal taht could help you a great deal. He is specialized in BoP and has access toall the specialists of the university: veterinarian surgeons, dentists, radiologists, traumatologists, etc... The clinic is in St-Hyacinthe not far from Montreal and I'm pretty sure he could built an acrylic beak for your bird and maybe understand why the regrowth is sooo slow...

www.medvet.umontreal.ca

Good luck!

BrokenBeak

20-03-2006, 10:34 PM

Do they have an english web site as my french is verry rusty.

Kevin Massey

20-03-2006, 10:36 PM

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Kitana

20-03-2006, 10:39 PM

Sorry I thought their website was bilingual!

Dr Guy Fitzgerald (specialized in BoP since 1989, sees 350-400 BoP each year):
1-450-778-8111 #8427

http://www.medvet.umontreal.ca/chuv/OiseauxProie.html

There you have the adress and phone numbers.

Biarmicus

20-03-2006, 10:50 PM

Brokenbeak,

You got a reply to your PM. :D

If you go to the top of the webpage there will be a header that says "Welcome, Brokenbeak."

Just click on the private messages that is underlined and you will be able to read the response to the PM you sent me. :D

Brittney

BrokenBeak

21-03-2006, 01:04 AM

I'n sure that there is a way to change the text to english. But like I said my french is no very good. But I will give them a call tomorrow and see what they have to say.

BrokenBeak

21-03-2006, 01:06 AM

Mass

Thanks for the translator it came in handy

Biarmicus

21-03-2006, 08:35 PM

Brokenbeak,

Have you got any response from the Dr. B. Andrews in B.C?

Just wondering. :)

Brittney

BrokenBeak

21-03-2006, 08:55 PM

not yet. I I don't get a reply from him I am going to get my vet to call out west and ask about the proceedure. Soon i hope. As I can't wait for him to be all better

Biarmicus

21-03-2006, 09:05 PM

not yet. I I don't get a reply from him I am going to get my vet to call out west and ask about the proceedure. Soon i hope. As I can't wait for him to be all better

Anything back from Discovery Channel?

Hopefully Buzz will be able to go out flying/hunting again soon.

With the Bald Eagle, he was able to eat naturally quite soon after the rebuilding of the beak, but he wasn't released back out to the wild. With a trained falconry bird I wouldn't think there would be much of a worry that your hawk would have too much trouble as there would be someone out there with him if he needed assistance out in the field. :D

Good luck, Keep us updated.

Brittney

Kitana

22-03-2006, 02:36 AM

And don't forget Dr Fitzgerald... he and his team speak english, they are BoP specialists and they have access to top-of-the-art equipments and a full team of specialized vets to help them... I don't think you would be able to find someone better equiped and instructed on BoP health than him in eastern Canada...
You can even contact him by email and send him the pics to get an opinion.

Tanith

22-03-2006, 01:26 PM

What a fascinating thread and so good to see the forum doing what It does best, pooling resources and helping each other out.

Brokenbeak, you have my total respect and admiration and I hope that you and your wife are able to find someone to rebuild his beak.

Rosemary

BrokenBeak

22-03-2006, 01:49 PM

I have sent all of these addresses and phone numbers to my vet. Even though I have already emailed these people, I think that if the request for help comes from a professional I will get a quicker response. Thanks again for all the help guys lets hope that I can find someone to help us.

Jason

Kitana

22-03-2006, 02:57 PM

You will find someone I have no doubt about that!
Beak repairs such as your bird needs is something that is commonly done with parrots, and sometimes with ducks. The technics are well described in the textbook and it is something that every avian vet is supposed to be able to do. If not, then specialized vets do know what to do...
Good luck! :)

BrokenBeak

22-03-2006, 04:51 PM

Biarmicus

23-03-2006, 06:53 PM

My vet is not an avian vet but she does work closely with the raptor rehabilitation center here and I am sure that once she has the specifics of the proceedure there will be no problem with getting the beak fixed. The closest avian vet is in guelph, but I have yet to get a response from him. I have tried several time and left many messages but to no avail.

Hi Brokenbeak,

The other day I sent you a PM regarding another avian vet, there is an e-mail address along with a website, the vet is in another country but if no-one else is responding to your e-mails/phone calls/messages etc., this other vet may be able to explain certain aspects of the beak rebuilding procedure to your hawk's veterinarian or a local dentist?

I'm just curious if you got the PM? (in case I didn't send it properly? :confused:)

Brittney

BrokenBeak

24-03-2006, 04:32 AM

Brittny

I have sent an email to the vet in the uk asking him for aome insight on the dentistry for the repair of the upper mandible. Hopefully I will get a reply from him and we can set to getting buzzes beak fixed. I am so excited about all the help that I have gotten from you guys and i am sure that everything will work out fine. thanks again and I will keep you all posted as soon as I get a reply from someone. i think that they are pondering what to do as I have snt them all pictures of the bird. My disussing it among their collegues. thanks again.

jason

GregMik

24-03-2006, 05:22 AM

Have you contacted the Raptor Center? I know they can help.

http://www.raptor.cvm.umn.edu/

Greg

BrokenBeak

24-03-2006, 01:31 PM

I am emailing them as we speak

BrokenBeak

24-03-2006, 09:55 PM

Okay I got a reply from the vet in Minesota. They do not have much experience with fixing beaks, but they say it can be done. that I should consult my vet and a dentist and they should be able to work something out together that can benifit the bird. So I am calling my vet on Monday again to find out what she has found out. It seems like I am running in circles.

Jason

Shannor

24-03-2006, 10:12 PM

You may be running in circles, but don't give up. It's great that you've worked so hard for your bird, and I'm sure your hard work will pay off :)

Minty

25-03-2006, 07:53 AM

I feel for you. You will have to get through the upset of watching your bird go through it.
I hated watching my bird hobble around on his broken leg as you do with the beak i am sure
But stick with it buddy when it is all fixed up (and it will be) you can be proud that you have done the best thing for your bird.

Good luck. And keep going:supz:

BrokenBeak

26-03-2006, 11:03 PM

hey guys I took a few more up close pics. What do you think about the regrowth (right at the bottom of the cere it is starting to fill in) Oh and he needs a bath really bad too.

GregMik

26-03-2006, 11:58 PM

Jason,
I think you need to get that taken care of pretty soon. Looks to me like the only part of the quick still alive is the lower two corners of the upper mandible. The lower mandible looks like it is starting to deform from it not having anything to shape to. To bad the Raptor Center couldn't help. Have you asked to talk to Pat Redig directly? If you have only talked to a clinician, I would ask to talk to Pat.

Greg

BrokenBeak

27-03-2006, 02:30 AM

Greg

It was a vet that emailed me directly. they said that they do not have much experience with mandible reconstruction and that getting the bird there may prove to be difficult as we are in Canada and she does not know about getting the bird across the border. But I have once again be in contact with the raptor center in this area and she is going to call the raptor specialist in Guelph and see what he can do. Like I said we have been running in circles for months as it is very hard to get anyone to actually help. But I am sure we are on the right track now. I'll keep you posted. the vets name Julia Ponder DVM Assoiated Director.

Biarmicus

27-03-2006, 02:52 AM

Hi Brokenbeak,

Did the dentist in B.C. or the avian veterinarian in the U.K. never get back to you regarding Buzz's beak? :confused:

Brittney

GregMik

27-03-2006, 03:07 AM

Jason,
If it was a she.....Please call and ask for Pat.

Greg

Biarmicus

27-03-2006, 04:07 AM

Brokenbeak,

I have sent you another PM with more avian veterinarian information in Ontario.

Brittney

GregMik

27-03-2006, 05:27 AM

Brittney,
Could you please post this in the 'Rest of the world' Vet Forum? I will have a Canadain forum made if you don't want to post there. It would be good to have this available.

Greg

BrokenBeak

27-03-2006, 02:46 PM

Not yet. I hope someone gets back to me soon

Kitana

27-03-2006, 02:50 PM

What about Dr Fitzgerald? I can't believe he didn't answered you!

Biarmicus

27-03-2006, 04:04 PM

Brittney,
Could you please post this in the 'Rest of the world' Vet Forum? I will have a Canadain forum made if you don't want to post there. It would be good to have this available.

Greg

Okay I'll get them on the forum in a little while. :D

Brittney

Biarmicus

27-03-2006, 05:24 PM

Okay I'll get them on the forum in a little while. :D

Brittney

I have made a link to the phone numbers of the Avian Veterinary Specialists in Ontario: http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12311

Brittney

BrokenBeak

28-03-2006, 01:52 PM

Hey guys!
Here is an update, Finally the vet in Guelph had gotten back to my vet. He said to trim the upper and lower mandible to a more ordinary length. Wait a couple of more months to see if there is any more regrowth of the upper mandible. Then go from there. He is going to get in touch with the vet from B.C. and see if Dr Andrews can send him instructions on how to rebuild the beak. He thinks that through out BUzzs' life the upper mandible will have to be replaced several times as he still has some growth to it. But this is good news as we have been waiting months for a reply. Now Buzz is going to the raptor center to have the beaks trimmed as we are very afraid of hitting a nerve or a blood supply. The raptor lady is confident that everything will be fine. I will post some pictures of the trimmed beak as soon as possible.

Trish ( Jason's wife)

Dave G

28-03-2006, 02:05 PM

good stuff glad your gettig some replys and wish you all the best and keep us posted on progress thanx

BrokenBeak

29-03-2006, 09:00 PM

Here is some great news. The vet made her usual visit today and had a really good look at the beak, outside in the nice bright sunshine. She is going to get in touch with a friend who has gotten his avian boards and see if they can come up with a plan to rebuild the beak. She thinks that herself and the avian vet for the raptor center will be able to make an acyclic piece to fit into the space. She plans on shaving down the old beak that is still attached leaving the tip but reshaping the mandible so that any new growth follows the new form. This is the most optimistic news that we have ever gotten about the beak. Before it was a wait and see what happens, but now that they realize that it is not going to grow back properly, that they have to do something. So we are optimistic.

Jason

GregMik

29-03-2006, 09:03 PM

Jason,
Glad to see there has been progress made! Keep us informed.

Greg

BrokenBeak

29-03-2006, 10:33 PM

Slow progress. But I think that we are on the right track now it is about getting the ball rolling. They know what they want to do now lets get on with it. I know that Dr Taylor wants to make sure that the bird is safe and that she is sure of what she is doing, but we are anxious to get it all going. I'll keep you guys informed thanks again for all your advise and help. It is not easy seeing the bird in that condition and I was prepared to take care of him for the rest of his life by hand feeding him, Now to think that he may be able to rip his own meal up gets me really excited. This is what his purpose is in life and mine is to watch this magnificent creature do what he does best, Be a Bird of Prey.
:-P

Thanks Guys

Jason

Biarmicus

30-03-2006, 12:40 AM

Hi Jason and Trish,

That is really exciting news!

I'm glad that Buzz will soon be back to his close to original self again, and out flying/hunting soon. I would really like to hear how things progress day by day with Buzz if all works out well.

Congratulations!!! :supz:

Good luck,

Brittney

BrokenBeak

05-04-2006, 08:26 PM

Ok here is the first step. He got his 2 mandibles trimmed down to a more natural size. Now the vet is looking for a dentist in the area to give her a hand with the rebuilding.

Jason

BrokenBeak

05-04-2006, 08:36 PM

a more upclose picture

Kitana

05-04-2006, 08:47 PM

That's cool, I hope everything will be fine for this bird, he deserves it! I'm just tickled about the dentist thing, any experienced avian vet would do a far better job than a dentist IMHO, they rebuild parrot beaks regularly, but hey that's great that you found someone available and willing to try something! Great!

Sprout

05-04-2006, 09:09 PM

As Kitana says, a vet used to dealing with parrots would be far more accomplished than a dentist. Hope all goes well, certainly interesting to hear about - good luck

Kennelre

05-04-2006, 10:04 PM

Great update...continuing good luck to you...

Shaun

05-04-2006, 10:11 PM

Hi, I'm Shaun's partner Lian. I've trained as a nail technician and whilst I was doing my training a friend of mine had a parrot with a broken beak. She was told she would have to have it put to sleep (for obvious reasons) but she decided to try and sculpt a new beak from acrylic powder solution (the same that nail tech's use to sculpt false nails with).

The bird had to be put under anaesthetic, whilst under she sculpted a new beak for him. The acrylic powder is mixed with an acrylic liquid and goes on like a paste. It takes between 5 and 10 mins to set and when it goes off is as hard as glass and as far as I am aware is non toxic when set.

If you think about the types of food a parrot eats - hard nuts, nuts with shells etc, he coped really well with it and if it did chip it is very easily corrected (bird has to be sedated though) and very inexpensive.

Really not sure how much an experienced nail tech would charge (not something I think any of them would have heard about or considered). I would definately ask around and see if anyone knows of an experienced nail technician in your area who would be brave enough to have ago. It shouldn't be too difficult for the right person and wouldn't take much more than half an hour to complete providing there were no problems.

Send me a pm if you want any more info, shame I'm in North Wales or I would have a go for you.

Hope you have some luck.

BrokenBeak

06-04-2006, 02:23 AM

all you guys are too far away now I wish that i lived in the UK. And this birds beak would have been fixed ages ago.I'll pass the information on to the vet and see what she has to say about it. I think that it is a very good idea. Can't hurt to try I guess.

DeathFromAbove

06-04-2006, 08:55 AM

Fair play there all a great bunch of people on here eh.... fantastic to see those in the know helping this guy out of the hole he's in.

Hope it all works out ok for you brokenbeak mate. Fair play to your tenacity mate, stay the course and i'm sure it'll all turn out just fine... a heartwarming story if I ever heard one.

Lee C

06-04-2006, 09:05 AM

[QUOTE=DeathFromAbove]Fair play there all a great bunch of people on here eh.... fantastic to see those in the know helping this guy out of the hole he's in.

Hope it all works out ok for you brokenbeak mate. Fair play to your tenacity mate, stay the course and i'm sure it'll all turn out just fine... a heartwarming story if I ever heard one.[/QUOTE

First welcome
It looks nasty! :(
A credit to you to see the bird's health looks so good and nice to see you are passionate about it
I agree DFA nice to see people helping out
Best wishes to you and your bird let us all know how you get on!!:-)
Lee C

BrokenBeak

23-04-2006, 02:11 AM

Hey guys

thought that i would post a quick update. The bird is doing great since he got his beak trimmed back. We are going to wait a while to see if there is anymore new growth, as we have been talking to the man from our local animal farm who deals with water fowl. He has seen some ducks beaks similar to Buzzs' and he thinks that if we keep trimming it back that it will continue to grow. He told us that it takes well over a year for the ducks beak to grow back. Also our vet and the raptor center are ready to take on the filling of the beak with arcrylic. So if it doesn't grow anymore then we will go in that direction.

Jason

GregMik

23-04-2006, 03:11 AM

Jason,
Glad you got ahold of Pat. I talked to him at our MFA Game dinner. He wasn't too encouraged. Hopefully it all works out for the lucky guy. You are great for what you are doing.

Greg

BrokenBeak

31-05-2006, 02:49 AM

hi everyone it's been awhile just thought I'd show you a picture of my new bird chico. Here I am with Buzz and chico. he is 5 years old. The reason i haven't been on for a while is I've been out of town looking for work. Things are looking up though.

Talk to yeah soon
Jason

Kennelre

31-05-2006, 07:16 AM

Hello Jason, it's good to hear from you again...hope the work stuff turns out to be succesful.I like your new bird....I guess you will be hunting with Chico and that Buzz will continue to be loved and spoilt, but not hunted? What is the latest update on his beak?....

Midland hawker

31-05-2006, 03:45 PM

hi jason chico looks nice mate hope buzz dont get to jealous rock on for the hunting season got 3 eggs with the harris,s should be hatching this weekend

BrokenBeak

31-05-2006, 10:59 PM

we are going to wait a bit and see if it grows if not we are going to try and fix it .
he tried to get away on me again but he's so fat he made it to the next house and got tired i had to climb the roof to get him. he's still a suck

Sandeep

01-06-2006, 04:12 AM

That's great news... Keep sending pics.....:supz: :supz:

BrokenBeak

09-07-2006, 03:44 AM

GregMik

09-07-2006, 03:48 AM

It is comeing back!?

That would be awsome!! I am really hoping it does mate!

Greg

Sandeep

09-07-2006, 08:25 AM

hi it's been awhile just thought i would just say hi and let you know i got chico out hunting he get 3 black birds yesterday that makes #7 since i got him i'm working on getting buzz back in the action he's starting to come around slowly the good news is it looks like his beek is growing back but slowly

Glad he's back to being his old self again....:supz: :supz: :supz:

buzzbee

09-07-2006, 05:51 PM

Hope it grows back well. Nice birds mate. What else do you hunt with Chico?

BrokenBeak

09-07-2006, 08:01 PM

Chico only hunts black birds right now. He has spent the past year ( with his former owner )in a pen. so I am getting him back in shape and hunting him on something light right now. He is doing awsome and my brother-inlaw says that he should be ready to hunt bunnies very soon. But expect him to get knocked off them for a while until he gets the hang of it. I want to try him on ducks and geese also. I'll post some pics when he gets his first duck, bunny or goose. He has only ever been a bird hawk for bird control in our plants but his last owner didn't like him very much. I love him, he is a great guy.

Jason

Biarmicus

10-07-2006, 02:52 AM

hi it's been awhile just thought i would just say hi and let you know i got chico out hunting he get 3 black birds yesterday that makes #7 since i got him i'm working on getting buzz back in the action he's starting to come around slowly the good news is it looks like his beek is growing back but slowly

Hi Jason,

That is excellent news about Buzz's beak! :supz:

Good luck with Chico, sounds like he is doing well too! :D

Brittney

BrokenBeak

26-03-2007, 02:21 AM

hi everyone it's been along time i'v been out of town working well i have good news bad news and good news buzz's beak is slowly growing back i think i'm going to try to car hawk him again bad news chico died don't know what happend went to feed him he couldn't even eat to weak good news i got a female harris angel she has an attitude but she's young and she's learning