Veg Oil

[Hawkmaster]

I know we had a thread on here before about running your diesel vehicle on vegetable oil, unfortunately it seems to have dissolved into the ether?

I would like to know what folks finding have been as I too have been trying it out.;-)

[Osiris]

Can this actually be done??

Heard people say it b4 but never tried it as i don't know if it actually works! or if it'll **** your car up!!

[Bash]

They did this on Top Gear a year or so ago with some success with a volvo estate.

I do remember them saying that it wasn't worth it as the tax duty on the oil would be almost the same as diesel. Don't know how they would know you were using it unless you got pulled?:lol: :supz:

[Hawkmaster]

Yes it works as the diesel engine was designed to run on pure peanut oil.

The tax is only 21p and with diesel at the current UK price it is still a saving:supz:

There are two forms to fill in, one to register with HMS Customs and the other to send your oil purchases in so they can tax you on it, still worth it, believe me.

[Renton]

Recipes available here: http://www.veggiepower.org.uk/page208a.htm

Be warned, substitutes for diesel used in vehicles on the public highway are liable for fuel duty of 47.10 pence per litre. http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContent&id=HMCE_PROD1_024771&propertyType=document

[Midland hawker]

hi everyone im sure somewhere or someone said u can also smell it when ur in a car behind so if u didnt register as using it they would probably smell u out :roll:

[Hawkmaster]

Yes the clean oil smells like donuts to me:roll:

[Midland hawker]

i would be nipping shop every minute with hunger pains ha ha :supz:

[Kevin Massey]

i was running my surf on 80% veg 20% diesel.... from perth to york cost about £23.50... over winter i lowered it to 50-50 cos i was told it may not start so well.

[Renton]

hi everyone im sure somewhere or someone said u can also smell it when ur in a car behind so if u didnt register as using it they would probably smell u out :roll:

That they did. :) http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/eco/biofuel.html

[Kevin Massey]

The tax is only 21p and with diesel at the current UK price it is still a saving:supz:

a while ago i bought £10 worth of bio-diesel...i keep this reciept in the glove box:lol: ... if asked i will say its bio....and will look for the reciept:lol:

[Kevin Massey]

you cant smell it as you are driving...its when you stop. Traffic lights can be a bit:oops:

[Sparrow Hawker]

Is that right duty on veg oil is cheaper than diesel I heard someone say that the government increased the tax to make it the same price as Diesel?

Stikes me the government should be promoting Veg oil as its a renewbale source and is as green as it gets, farmers can then diversify into oil production. However the government knows it will lose revenue if they start promoting veg oil as a substitute to Diesel.

A conversiton is around £800 this basically heats the Veg oil up which makes it thinner so its a similar consistancy to diesel. However some people are using a mixture of diesel and vegetable oil. During the winter there using 60% Diesel to 40% Veg oil and in summer its vice versa! This is mainly due to temperatures which effect the consistancy of the vegetable oil, the colder it gets the more it thickens!

Both used and unused can be used but it is recommend that used oil in particular needs to be filtered down to less than 1 micron I think it is, to remove and bits etc.

HH

[BrianM]

i like the idea of it kev,,, i am just not brave enough to try it in my car though

[Kevin Massey]

i was the same brian....i started off at much lower ratio's:oops:

[Kevin Massey]

plus i have had no conversion done

[Hawkmaster]

I also have no conversion done.
Just went to Sainsburys and bought the 3 litres bottles and put them in. I have run on 100% oil and it will not start on cold days but does the rest of the day no problems.

Every 3rd or 4th tank I just put a full tank of diesel (£66.64)to flush it out and then back to the good stuff.(£28.56):lol:

I like the Bio fuel trick, we have one close by and unfortunately it is more expensive that diesel, but hey it has its good points. It is clean green and gives your a working receipt.:wink:

[Kevin Massey]

Every 3rd or 4th tank I just put a full tank of diesel (£66.64)to flush it out and then back to the good stuff.(£28.56):lol:

i do the same...when i have to use it for works commitments...:supz:

[AngelJakki]

So will this work in an 1990 110 landy or is it just the newer vehicles I know there are some companies that have said their cars can run on it.

[Graham Stuart]

Older cars will work just the same jakki , but i would only run it at 50 x 50 ratio as its cold up here and pure oil gets thick in the cold, summer would be fine but i am still trying to convince the missus:yawinkle:

[North East Harris Hawker]

i heard that if you dont register with the correct auhorities and you get caught with it the penalty is the same as if you are caught running your car on red diesel :shock: ie its tax evasion!

[Tim Laycock]

I run my Shogun on vegetable oil, I dont realy care about the consequences :supz:

[Renton]

i heard that if you dont register with the correct auhorities and you get caught with it the penalty is the same as if you are caught running your car on red diesel :shock: ie its tax evasion!

Too true. Although, as fuel duty is paid retrospectively, it could be argued that, provided proper records are kept, there was no intention of evading duty at the time of an alleged offence. Duty does not need to be paid until the oil is actually used in motor vehicle on the public highway, not before.

[Graham Stuart]

Too true. Although, as fuel duty is paid retrospectively, it could be argued that, provided proper records are kept, there was no intention of evading duty at the time of an alleged offence. Duty does not need to be paid until the oil is actually used in motor vehicle on the public highway, not before.

Just keep the latest oil receipt in the glove box and say sorry mate its the first time ive tried it, its up to them to prove otherwise, as the old bill say " innocent till proven guilty" but they will beat you up just in case:yawinkle:

[BrianM]

I run my Shogun on vegetable oil, I dont realy care about the consequences :supz:


thats coz your loaded tim lol seriously,, what are the potenial pitfalls???????

[Renton]

Just keep the latest oil receipt in the glove box and say sorry mate its the first time ive tried it, its up to them to prove otherwise, as the old bill say " innocent till proven guilty" but they will beat you up just in case:yawinkle:

Well worth a try if nicked! :roll:

[North East Harris Hawker]

Too true. Although, as fuel duty is paid retrospectively, it could be argued that, provided proper records are kept, there was no intention of evading duty at the time of an alleged offence. Duty does not need to be paid until the oil is actually used in motor vehicle on the public highway, not before.
if this is the case could you do this with red?

[North East Harris Hawker]

sorry for the double post but ive just remembered that a friend of mine who has a landrover 110 says that he plans to fit an extra tank and have a cut over switch (like the old army landys) fill one tank with white diesel and the other (the big one) with red, if he gets a pull he just flicks the switch, claiming that the red is used for when he off roads!

[Graham Stuart]

The only time ive seen the customs boys pulling traffic it is trucks and vans never seen them pulling motors :yawinkle:

[Renton]

if this is the case could you do this with red?

No, red diesel, where the fuel duty is much lower, is for excepted vehicles only. Excepted vehicles being: tractors, roadrollers etc. Use of red diesel in non-excepted vehicles on the public road is liable to a minimum fine of £250 plus fuel duty owing. The vehicle may also be seized and forfeited. That is just HM Revenue and Customs getting started; if they suspect dishonesty or someone obstructs an officer inspecting a vehicle then they really get nasty!!!

[Renton]

sorry for the double post but ive just remembered that a friend of mine who has a landrover 110 says that he plans to fit an extra tank and have a cut over switch (like the old army landys) fill one tank with white diesel and the other (the big one) with red, if he gets a pull he just flicks the switch, claiming that the red is used for when he off roads!

Doubt he would get away with it. This is what HM Revenue and Customs have to say on the matter of auxiliary fuel tanks:

"Yes, but only in fuel tanks not capable of connection to the engine used to propel the vehicle (unless it is an excepted vehicle). The standard running tank(s), whether connected or disconnected, must contain only fully duty paid fuel. Rebated gas oil must not be taken into the standard running tanks or auxiliary tanks fitted to vehicles or trailers except where these tanks are solely and permanently connected to the auxiliary machinery (eg refrigeration motors). All other tanks on a vehicle, trailer or bulk carrier, whether directly connected to the propelling engine or not, will be considered to be part of the road fuel system. Dual fuel systems are not permitted, even where they can connect to a power take off to switch the tanks."

[Pitbull]

The only time ive seen the customs boys pulling traffic it is trucks and vans never seen them pulling motors :yawinkle:

taxis are a big thing for them, seen a program where a taxi firm owner in scotland got woken up at his house and was found to have red in all his vehicles plus his peronall ones also

[Renton]

taxis are a big thing for them, seen a program where a taxi firm owner in scotland got woken up at his house and was found to have red in all his vehicles plus his peronall ones also

Not much fun when the Revenue come calling! :roll:

[OutFlying]

Guess what my neighbours are ;-)

[Graham Stuart]

Guess what my neighbours are ;-)

Let me quess Wa****s lol:yawinkle:

[NightOwl]

where do you guys buy your oil. cheapest places,etc.

[North East Harris Hawker]

Doubt he would get away with it. This is what HM Revenue and Customs have to say on the matter of auxiliary fuel tanks:

"Yes, but only in fuel tanks not capable of connection to the engine used to propel the vehicle (unless it is an excepted vehicle). The standard running tank(s), whether connected or disconnected, must contain only fully duty paid fuel. Rebated gas oil must not be taken into the standard running tanks or auxiliary tanks fitted to vehicles or trailers except where these tanks are solely and permanently connected to the auxiliary machinery (eg refrigeration motors). All other tanks on a vehicle, trailer or bulk carrier, whether directly connected to the propelling engine or not, will be considered to be part of the road fuel system. Dual fuel systems are not permitted, even where they can connect to a power take off to switch the tanks."
so,in a nutshell if you want to take a 4wd off roading then you have to pay the duty on the fuel even though you are not driving on the public highway?

[North East Harris Hawker]

absolutely mr sparrow! never would i condone such an activity!
I am interested in "fuel experimentation" information though. There is a chap at my works who is properly registered with the correct authorities as such, he uses veg oil with diesel and can you believe it, its down to him to inform the revenue as to how much duty he owes them! apparently he only used a little bit last year :roll:

[Renton]

so,in a nutshell if you want to take a 4wd off roading then you have to pay the duty on the fuel even though you are not driving on the public highway?

Unfortunately, yes. The only way a 4wd could legally use rebated fuel is by never taking it on the public road!

[North East Harris Hawker]

well that does come as a surprise, i'd better tell my mate then before he spends a stack of money on modifications!

[Renton]

If he got caught using such fuel tank modifications on the public road, the penalties would be very severe.

[North East Harris Hawker]

i understand, but his plan was to make sure that the switch was set to "white" in the event of getting pulled, but according to the legislation that was pulled up, even if he was he would still be in trouble

[Hawkmaster]

Guys the forms are easy to fill in and here are the details of the site I used, just do it, it make more sense to be 100% with in the law:
http://www.bio-power.co.uk/download.htm

[North East Harris Hawker]

crikey! there are a lot of forms!

[Renton]

i understand, but his plan was to make sure that the switch was set to "white" in the event of getting pulled, but according to the legislation that was pulled up, even if he was he would still be in trouble

Indeed, dual fuel systems are not permitted to use both duty paid and rebated fuels.
A vehicle inspection by a Revenue and Customs officer wouldn't take long to find any such modifications.

[GM090158]

No, red diesel, where the fuel duty is much lower, is for excepted vehicles only. Excepted vehicles being: tractors, roadrollers etc. Use of red diesel in non-excepted vehicles on the public road is liable to a minimum fine of £250 plus fuel duty owing. The vehicle may also be seized and forfeited. That is just HM Revenue and Customs getting started; if they suspect dishonesty or someone obstructs an officer inspecting a vehicle then they really get nasty!!!

When HM Customs decide to get really nasty they are!! They have far more powers than police, these include powers of entry, seizure of property and vehicles. A short time is then given to pay statutory fines and what they ESTIMATE you owe in revenue that has been avoided, if not paid in the time scale they sell what they sieze then come after you for the rest. Not pleasant.

[Renton]

When HM Customs decide to get really nasty they are!! They have far more powers than police, these include powers of entry, seizure of property and vehicles. A short time is then given to pay statutory fines and what they ESTIMATE you owe in revenue that has been avoided, if not paid in the time scale they sell what they sieze then come after you for the rest. Not pleasant.

In short, don't get on the wrong side of them!

[North East Harris Hawker]

looks like an avenue not worth venturing down! now, getting back to this veg oil business, does the engine run the same on it or is it lumpy, lower revving, etc? or does it run better?

[Graham Stuart]

if you use 50 x 50 mix you wont notice any difference axcept the cost:yawinkle: in really cold weather put in 70 x 30 mix and you will have no probs mate

[North East Harris Hawker]

what about in mid summer?

[Hawkmaster]

I just bought a heater that will keep the oil liquid if the temperature drops below 10 degrees C

Just need to fit it now?:wink:

[Graham Stuart]

in hot weather i know some who run a 100 percent oil with no probs, if you fit the heater then its fine all year or every 10 tanks stick the expensive stuff in it to clean it out:yawinkle:

[North East Harris Hawker]

this months land rover owner magazine has got a big article on it, apparently the easiest way to overcome the heating thing is to fit a tank heater..I bet that draws some current !

[Kevin Massey]

in hot weather i know some who run a 100 percent oil with no probs, if you fit the heater then its fine all year or every 10 tanks stick the expensive stuff in it to clean it out:yawinkle:

i have heared the same...although i hav'nt tried it myself...yet:lol:

[Tim Laycock]

I just bought a heater that will keep the oil liquid if the temperature drops below 10 degrees C

Just need to fit it now?:wink:

Is this a tank heater Paul?
I can understand the validity of a heater at the injector end but not in the tank.
Surely starting problems will still be encountered it the oil in the lines is still cold and thick?

[North East Harris Hawker]

mmm that seems to make sense, a heater element between the fuel pump and the injectors seems more logical to me, simple to fit yet delivering warmer oil to the injectors

[Pitbull]

I just bought a heater that will keep the oil liquid if the temperature drops below 10 degrees C

Just need to fit it now?:wink:

saw this on sky "real time" ch250 programme called "down on the farm"
But he also had a switch for the 2 differrent tanks he had,
1 with just diesel and 1 with just oil. He started the heater then switched on the engine with the deisel then swithched over too the oil

[Hawkmaster]

Blackbird it is a STANADYNE DIESEL ENGINE FUEL HEATER (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STANADYNE-DIESEL-ENGINE-FUEL-HEATER-BIO-VEG-OIL_W0QQitemZ4627673389QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem) Cheap too:!:

[Tim Laycock]

Thanks for the link Paul 8-)

[North East Harris Hawker]

Blackbird it is a STANADYNE DIESEL ENGINE FUEL HEATER (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STANADYNE-DIESEL-ENGINE-FUEL-HEATER-BIO-VEG-OIL_W0QQitemZ4627673389QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem) Cheap too:!:
aha but check the guys feedback who is selling it!

"Reasonable price and useful for Diesel cold starts, but not for veg oil
Buyer martinsheffield ( 20) 03-Apr-06 10:12 4623466265 "

[Hawkmaster]

Not what the instructions say! He might want to query Renault who make it.:lol:

[Welsh Steve]

hello i use rape seed oil in my landy( 2.8 turbo diahatsu)conversion No probs so far .But im told certain pumps fail on it.Ive used it for 18 months off and on

[Kevin Massey]

£22.68 to get back from Scotland in a 3ltr Toyota Surf cannay be bad :cool:
And that left me with with about 1/8th of a Tank:supz:

[BlackHawke]

£22.68 to get back from Scotland in a 3ltr Toyota Surf cannay be bad :cool:
And that left me with with about 1/8th of a Tank:supz:

especially the way you drive!:wink: :D

[Kevin Massey]

especially the way you drive!:wink: :D

Thats rich Miss Daisey:lol:

[BlackHawke]

yeh yeh tortoise and rabbit spring to mind!:supz: i'll have you know i was doing 75 on the way home.:roll: :D

[MickeyDredd]

yeh yeh tortoise and rabbit spring to mind! i'll have you know i was doing 75 on the way home.:roll: :D

Yeah but it is downhill back to Essex! :lol:

ps...mph or kph? ;)

[Kevin Massey]

yeh yeh tortoise and rabbit spring to mind!:supz: i'll have you know i was doing 75 on the way home.:roll: :D

Looks like the Thrust 2 need to start to panic:lol:

[Keith Barker]

hello,
i ran my old 1.7 litre astra van on a mixture of diesel and pure rapeseed oil a few years ago, i was telling my mate about this website i had been looking at on our way up the m6 to go lamping foxes one night about running your vehicle on veg oil, he asked was i going to try it? i said we are running on it now! when he got out at the south lakes junction he said it smelled like the back of a chippy.
the website is called vegburner.co.uk there are plenty of links and as far as i can remember reference to what vehicles will run on streight veg oil and those that need diluting or pre heating before ignition. i used to get my oil from asda in 3 litre plastic bottles.
keith

[Tooker]

I use SVO in my Clio - except I pay the due duty....:cool:

[Kevin Massey]

i used to get my oil from asda in 3 litre plastic bottles.
keith


Same here although i think Tesco's is slightly thinner stuff.... run 100% mix this w/e and run a dream:lol:

[Argee]

hello i use rape seed oil in my landy( 2.8 turbo diahatsu)conversion No probs so far .But im told certain pumps fail on it.Ive used it for 18 months off and on

on and off .. stop go !!!! ???:wink:
(*v*) ...

[Argee]

Thats rich Miss Daisey:lol:

some days ee goes .. some dayss ee don't ,
(*v*) ...

[Argee]

Blackbird it is a STANADYNE DIESEL ENGINE FUEL HEATER (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STANADYNE-DIESEL-ENGINE-FUEL-HEATER-BIO-VEG-OIL_W0QQitemZ4627673389QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem) Cheap too:!:

used to be a blow lamp or an oiled flaming rag on the manifold :rolleyes:
(*v*) ...

[BlackHawke]

veg oil works fine in me peugeot van:supz: :supz: :supz: so far:oops:

[DeathFromAbove]

Have to admit I read the last thread on this and am still undecided, like a few people on here I want to give it a try and it would save me some hard earned cash but too nervous to go pouring veg oil into my Nissan Navara ..... if something went tits up I'd be screwed with repair costs.

are there any dangers/pitfalls that have surfaced with using this asa replacement?

[BlackHawke]

Have to admit I read the last thread on this and am still undecided, like a few people on here I want to give it a try and it would save me some hard earned cash but too nervous to go pouring veg oil into my Nissan Navara ..... if something went tits up I'd be screwed with repair costs.

are there any dangers/pitfalls that have surfaced with using this asa replacement?


i would be very apprehensive putting veg oil in a decent car but from wot i've read the worst that can happen is it may bung up the jets. just start of with 3 litres to say a tenners worth n work your way up

[Hacker]

Have to admit I read the last thread on this and am still undecided, like a few people on here I want to give it a try and it would save me some hard earned cash but too nervous to go pouring veg oil into my Nissan Navara ..... if something went tits up I'd be screwed with repair costs.

are there any dangers/pitfalls that have surfaced with using this asa replacement?

A mate of mine ran his navara for 6 months no probs using a fitted kit with oil warmer.
He has now sold the vehicle and i have bought the kit to put on my Ranger.

[BlackHawke]

so no real issues then for the newer cars? warmer would just thin the oil a little and warm so easier to start. my frontera was a little slow to start when using veg oil but it never let me down

[Hacker]

The kit warms the veggie up to temp but you start and stop on normal diesel.
When up to temp you are running on 100% veggie at 21p per litre:supz:
But you need to flush the veggie out of the system before you stop otherwise it will be in the pipes etc and if we get a cold one it will semi solidify and you will not be going anywhere.
Veggie is stored in large tank mounted in rear bed betwen wheelarches.

[BlackHawke]

where you get your oil from cheapest i can get is £1.62 for 3 litres. cash n carry is much more expensive.

you could probably use veg oil for 9-10 months of the year down this end of the country without any probs

[Hacker]

Purchase used veggie oil, my nearest is AB oil in Southampton, fill up a 90 gallon drum and then that will keep you going for a while!

[Argee]

okaaaayyyyy..
ordinary diesel was always a problem in cold weather it was called waxing ..
then an additive was introduced and it may have been paraffin !!!!
sohhhhh.. if your veg oil is difficult to start/run in colder weather !!!!!!!
increase the additive ..
as for buying litre containers at the the 'Tesco' haven't you seen the 'tinned' 10 and 20 litre cans outside the coffee shops and chippies on delivery day and binman days ???,
(*v*) ...

[Harris]

The only problem I see with used oil, is the filtration, I think I read somewhere that it should be filtered down to 25 microns! that would take one hell of a long time, any thoughts?

[Kevin Massey]

Purchase used veggie oil, my nearest is AB oil in Southampton, fill up a 90 gallon drum and then that will keep you going for a while!

Do they have a web site:?:

[Pitbull]

It just so happens I was reading my lany manual the other week whilst waiting for my eldest. and it was saying that the 2.5tdi was not compatible with bio fuels.mmmmm

[BlackHawke]

The only problem I see with used oil, is the filtration, I think I read somewhere that it should be filtered down to 25 microns! that would take one hell of a long time, any thoughts?

used oil burns more efficiently, more hydorcarbons in burnt oil, but it has to be filtered plus the water has to be removed, to much hassle for me:roll: the diesel engine was originally designed not for fossil fuels but for peanut oil

[Argee]

used oil burns more efficiently, more hydorcarbons in burnt oil, but it has to be filtered plus the water has to be removed, to much hassle for me:roll: the diesel engine was originally designed not for fossil fuels but for peanut oil

Hmmmm ..
the name 'peanut' is a misnomer as they are in fact legumes ..
see ....you really wanted to know that didn't you :oops:
(*v*) ...

[Andy_G]

been running veggie opil in the surf for ages now and prev owner did plus in our escort td and its been fine put £10-15 in of derv then brim it in oil lol

[A1Gos]

been running veggie opil in the surf for ages now and prev owner did plus in our escort td and its been fine put £10-15 in of derv then brim it in oil lol
Used it in my Surf as well, trouble is its almost as much as diesel now.. :rolleyes:

[Phill Gibbons]

Used it in my Surf as well, trouble is its almost as much as diesel now.. :rolleyes: i used in my old l200 fine however my traffic ans kangoo ******d up on it something to do with the injectors exp to rep id recomend you dont use it in a dci engine its almost as exp as the real stuff now anyway.

[CountyFan1]

so no real issues then for the newer cars? warmer would just thin the oil a little and warm so easier to start. my frontera was a little slow to start when using veg oil but it never let me down

There can be an issue for newer cars which are running on pure veg oil, while they may burn it well enough it can cause issues for the engine control unit if your car has oxygen sensors the reason for this is that veg oil burns at a different temperature to diesel (cant remember for the life of me whether its higher or lower) so when the gas travels down the exhaust it is detected as being either to hot or to cold and the engine control unit trys to compensate by either adding more fuel causing poor economy or by using more air often causing the engine to run lean this can make the engine too hot and sometimes result in loss of power.

We've also had a few problems with particulate filters breaking down prematurely due to the gases and abnormal operating temps veg oil can produce. It's also worth bearing in mind that diesel is made with chemicals and detergents mixed in which are designed to keep engines clean and to produce the best burn possible. Diesel (and petrol) is often produced in the same way engine oil is with years of research and development and often reverse engineering going into the final product (lol i should be gettin that job offer from castrol any day now:cool:).

Older engines can be run well on veg oil but id advise a mix of 70% veg and 30% diesel in summer and 50%/50% or maybe even 40% veg in the winter. A mix should also be possible on new cars but id keep it at an evenish ratio just to be on the safe side.

Note: keep in mind if your car is found to be running veg oil or to have traces of petrol in the fuel (trust me it happens more than you might think) during work at a garage your warranty will be immediatly void concerning anything to do with the fuel system or the engine.

erm i hope this answers everyones questions and if i think of anything else ill post that to but i think ive covered everything

[Nick 703]

been running my transit pick up on veg oil for about two years,it will start and run on 100% oil in winter but you have to rev it for about 3 or 4 mins befor you pull of in the morning just to get it warmed up,im paying 17.99 for 20 ltr,is anyone getting it cheeper:?:i would by a pallet full if i could get it at the right price.

nick

[Andy_G]

Used it in my Surf as well, trouble is its almost as much as diesel now.. :rolleyes:

yup mymate is now got a freind who filters old stuff and at 13p a gallon you cant moan lol

[Nick 703]

yup mymate is now got a freind who filters old stuff and at 13p a gallon you cant moan lol

can you get me some :?:

[BlueBoy]

hello i use rape seed oil in my landy( 2.8 turbo diahatsu)conversion No probs so far .But im told certain pumps fail on it.Ive used it for 18 months off and on

Rape oil is probably the best, as its the thinnest, and you right about certain pumps failing.

try biomotors .co.uk...Also you can use 2500 LTS without informing customs unless the rules have been changed recently.

[BlackHawke]

Rape oil is probably the best, as its the thinnest, and you right about certain pumps failing.

try biomotors .co.uk...Also you can use 2500 LTS without informing customs unless the rules have been changed recently.

from my research bosch fuel pumps are the ones to have. they are man enough to pump the oil. lucas not good.

apart from the pump the problems with a lot of the modern diesels is the material they use for gaskets. veggie oil rots rubber.

older vehicles with the xud diesel engine. (peugeot 306,309, expert, xantia, certain rovers and loads of others) work well with veggie oil. Also most of the german manufactured vehicles coz apparently they have to meet for stringent rules coz i think the germans are into using bio diesel more than most

veggie oil does burn very well and clean and is good for the engine however it does have a habit of pulling particulates from the tank

if ya do ya research on it all try to steer clear of the american web sites they make everything so complicated

i've been using supermarket bought veggie oil for at least 4 years in both my frontera and my expert van. until it became more expensive than diesel!!! ive now managed to get hold of good quality free used veggie oil filtered it so far so good

[Oscar]

I had my xtrail converted, it is one of the early common rails so it still has a mechanical fuel pump. (bosch are the best Lucas struggle with the veg oil).

The modern diesels have electronic fuel pumps that are in the fuel tank, so if there is a problem shifting the veg oil its a major problem.

My conversion cost me £1250.00 I pay £17.83 per 20 ltr from Costco ( wholesalers). There is no smell and no loss of performance. The only draw back is I have to change the engine oil every 6000 miles instead of every 14000 miles (service intervals).

I plan to get a filter kit next year so I can run on recycled veg oil as where I live the hotels will GIVE it to me I just filter the sh*t out before using so it will cost me ***** all to run me motor.

The company is based in Wolverhampton if your interested the web site is www.dieselveg.com

[BlackHawke]

just filter it out manually theres a 10 micron filter on the car anyway but its easy to filter down to 5 microns. if ya worried just by a cheap inline filter fit it prior to the main diesel filter.

leave the used veggie oil to settle then take the clean veggie oil off the top, its really not hard to see. from my bit of research the solid stuff in the used veggie is the least of ya worries if ya really worried about used veggie oil then you should look into the water and acidity content of used veggie oil and titration. all that will really put you off!!! lol

[LSD1]

so i guess you wouldnt put vegg oil in to a 08 nissan pathfinder then ???????
atb
les

[BlackHawke]

so i guess you wouldnt put vegg oil in to a 08 nissan pathfinder then ???????
atb
les

i would do it,if i could afford a decent car i'd get a pucker conversion and done properly. it'll pay for itself in the long run

[LSD1]

how much would you think it would cost mate ???
and what one would say use and also can i fit it myself ???
atb les

[BlackHawke]

id check to make sure your car could be converted first with minimal amount of fuss.do a bit of research on ya car on the net. also how it affects ya warranty. theres a link on the other page for a company that does conversions.

its a lot of money to risk without looking into it first

[LSD1]

id check to make sure your car could be converted first with minimal amount of fuss.do a bit of research on ya car on the net. also how it affects ya warranty. theres a link on the other page for a company that does conversions.

its a lot of money to risk without looking into it first

cool mate ill have a look mate
atb les

[UKFlyer]

where you get your oil from cheapest i can get is £1.62 for 3 litres. cash n carry is much more expensive.

you could probably use veg oil for 9-10 months of the year down this end of the country without any probs

Cheapest I can find from Tesco is £3.49 for 3 litres, where can you buy it cheaper?

[BlackHawke]

Cheapest I can find from Tesco is £3.49 for 3 litres, where can you buy it cheaper?

i posted that in dec 2006, when veg oil in tescos was £1.62!!! :( gone up over 100% since then.

[Nick 703]

Cheapest I can find from Tesco is £3.49 for 3 litres, where can you buy it cheaper?

I get mine from bookers £17. 99 for 20 ltr,put it in google and see if there is one near you. nick