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Alimmma
25-03-2006, 08:34 AM
Hi all ,

I want to knaw the ways of the deferent between falcons male and the femals with out I go th the dr.

any one have pic inside the cloaca .thankx to all




GregMik
25-03-2006, 03:05 PM
Most ppl tell by size. But if you really want to be sure send a feather, blood sample or an egg shell here.

http://www.avianbiotech.com/

I beleive results are available 24 hrs after they recieve the sample, but don't quote me on it.


Greg

Alimmma
25-03-2006, 07:02 PM
thank you GregMik about this website but is it free testing

and u have wonderfull website to . thanks

GregMik
25-03-2006, 07:10 PM
Alimmma,
I just looked at the pricing page. The US side will not take samples from overseas. I tried to get into the UK side and the web site is down at the moment. Maybe Terry could help you out with a company over in the UK or maybe the Middle East has a similar company.

Thanks for the complement,

Greg

Yarak1
25-03-2006, 07:37 PM
Alimma, the last one I had dna on was a cost of £20...

Alimmma
26-03-2006, 03:27 AM
Hi GregMik ,and yarak1
thank you for u r helps I wish to retarn that for you . we don't have any clinic in kuwait do dna testing .

GregMik
26-03-2006, 03:34 AM
Looks like the UK site is up now. You might want to get ahold of them and ask.

http://www.avianbiotech.co.uk/

Greg

Alimmma
26-03-2006, 09:56 AM
It's wonderfull site GregMik , I well cheak with them soon , last night I was search in the internet about the sex of birds I found this :

http://www.exoticpetvet.net/dvms/endoscopy.html
and see alsaw
http://www.endoscopy.com/vetendonews/media/avian_tracheal/Tracheal_Stricture_files/default.htm

http://www.karlstorzvet.com/birds.html

http://www.karlstorzvet.com/taylor_slides.html

http://www.intl.elsevierhealth.com/catalogue/titleprint.cfm?ISBN=0815187432

BASIC EXOTIC ANIMAL ENDOSCOPY ( pdf ) (http://www.aemv.org/newsite/opportunities/course%20info%202004.pdf)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6523690&dopt=Abstract)

http://www.petplace.com (http://www.petplace.com/birds/sex-determination-in-psittaciformes/page1.aspx)


a new way.

Kentish Falconry
26-03-2006, 10:28 AM
Hi GregMik ,and yarak1
thank you for u r helps I wish to retarn that for you . we don't have any clinic in kuwait do dna testing .

Hi Ali Salamun Alaikum,

Before you send a Feather or blood sample to the UK you will need a Cites Export permit and the company will need an Import permit, Feathers are a derivative of the bird, this is the legal way to do it but you would probably get away with just posting it or sending by DHL.
It may be quicker if you contact Dr Margit Muller at the Abu Dhabi Falcon Hospital PO Box 45553, Abu Dhabi UAE tel 00971-2 575 5155. She will I am sure be able to help you with this, but before you waste your money what bird do you want sexed I would need to know the weight of the bird, Fat weight and if you have it Hunting weight, the age and the species or if a hybrid what type of hybrid it is from this info some of us should be able to tell you the sex of the bird
Other than that best of luck M8
Terry