Little Red Book of Forum Moderation.

[Renton]

The new policy of Forum moderators attempting to criticise/discipline members posts by the use of negative rep is something that would not have been out of place during the Cultural Revolution in China.

In attempt to make this forum more newbie-friendly we have had to endure censorship, heavy-handed moderation and an overtly politically-correct stance against any post that is deemed to offend against Party, sorry...FORUM, doctrine. If things continue at the present rate I fear this forum will degenerate into a pale imitation of a Chinese Communist Party rally with the cadres, i.e. moderators, indoctrinating the masses and all dissent and differing points of view ruthlessly quashed.

Just bear this quote in mind: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Francois Voltaire 1694-1778

[HunterPaul]

here here....... and part of the reason i flit in and out of here... instead of passing comment or handing out advice.

[Tim Laycock]

If you dont like it you know where the door is :yawinkle:

[HunterPaul]

moderators.. blackbirds being antagonistic....:wink:

[Kentish Falconry]

The new policy of Forum moderators attempting to criticise/discipline members posts by the use of negative rep is something that would not have been out of place during the Cultural Revolution in China.

In attempt to make this forum more newbie-friendly we have had to endure censorship, heavy-handed moderation and an overtly politically-correct stance against any post that is deemed to offend against Party, sorry...FORUM, doctrine. If things continue at the present rate I fear this forum will degenerate into a pale imitation of a Chinese Communist Party rally with the cadres, i.e. moderators, indoctrinating the masses and all dissent and differing points of view ruthlessly quashed.

Just bear this quote in mind: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Francois Voltaire 1694-1778

Hi M8......As a Mod I feel I have to answer your post but the picture is not as dark as you think it is.
During the time I have been a Forum member I have seen this place rock with laughter at some of the things being said but at the same time another post is degenerating into abuse and threats. I for one want this Forum to be good for all of us and we have to realise that some of our Kids view what is going on so we have to strike a happy medium, I am sure you will agree that the Forum is a better place now than it was just a few weeks back, most of the back stabbing has ceased and some good threads are being posted even in the correct sections as well.
This is not the Communist party as you sugest it is a Falconry Forum and discussions related to falconry are what we are trying to get, some good threads have been destroyed because people go off topic or even worse when someone disagrees with another post it would be far better for them to disagree and say why they disagree rather than start to call another member every name under the sun.
Moderators do not or should not jump on any post that is getting a heated debate going but we will step in when it comes to bullying, constant swearing and personal abuse.
I hope you can sit back and look at this from an objective point of view and you may see it in a better light, we get a lot of visitors to the site and we have no idea who they are or what they are looking for they could be journalists or anti's even MP's we simply don't know who is looking at us and what we say on here is how they will formulate a picture of Falconers in general, with the current climate in Government looking to ban hunting we have to show ourselves in the best possible light and not as a bunch of foul mouthed beer swilling lunatics that don't give a monkies about laws and public safety.
I hope this helps in your search for freedom from the Communist Party
ATB
Terry:)

[Ben C]

Moderators......pah...they do not frighten me.............:supz: :supz: :supz:

Seriously though, I hardly think comparing the death of 50'000'000 people with not beign able to swear is really true..........:yawinkle:

Blackbird as chairman Mao........PMSL

[Kentish Falconry]

moderators.. blackbirds being antagonistic....:wink:

Noted Sir or do I spell it Cur?
Nice to see you around again Paul
Break a leg
Terry

[Tim Laycock]

moderators.. blackbirds being antagonistic....

:shock: :shock: :shock:
Whos gonna believe that! :lol:

[Kentish Falconry]

:shock: :shock:
Whos gonna believe that! :lol:

We could edit his post and really get him into trouble if you want Tim:twisted:

[Big JoeJoe]

We could edit his post and really get him into trouble if you want Tim:twisted:

Go on I dare you:twisted: pmsl

[Tim Laycock]

Moderators editing posts amounts to comunisim Terry!

Shame on you :yawinkle: :lol:

[Kentish Falconry]

Moderators editing posts amounts to comunisim Terry!

Shame on you :yawinkle: :lol:

No just Perverting the Course of Justice Tim:lol: :lol:

[MickeyDredd]

Off topic gentlemen!!

Keep on thread or I'll contact the Mods to red card you ;) :lol:

[As The Falcon Her Bells]

[quote=Renton]The new policy of Forum moderators attempting to criticise/discipline members posts by the use of negative rep is something that would not have been out of place during the Cultural Revolution in China.

Dont forget this is something that always has been possible, and also not only by moderators, anyone can add positive or negative reputation to a post, not only moderators.....

[Kentish Falconry]

Off topic gentlemen!!

Keep on thread or I'll contact the Mods to red card you ;) :lol:

Thank you for reminding us Mickey, I will be good honest:butthead: :lol:

[Harris]

Thank you for reminding us Mickey, I will be good honest:butthead: :lol:


Thats a point who Mods the Mods lol :wink:

[Kentish Falconry]

ADMIN M8Thats a point who Mods the Mods lol :wink:

[Harris]

ADMIN M8


lol Well that sounds like a democracy to me! :wink:

[Kevin Massey]

The new policy of Forum moderators attempting to criticise/discipline members posts by the use of negative rep is something that would not have been out of place during the Cultural Revolution in China......

Dont forget this is something that always has been possible, and also not only by moderators, anyone can add positive or negative reputation to a post, not only moderators.....

I agree, i also think its far better to agree/dissagree with a post/thread via the rep option... it dont clog up the threads its self with these very same comments

[Sprout]

I want a forum for falconry - not clogged up with **** and arguements! I think the new style modding has improved things overall!!

[Renton]

[quote=As The Falcon Her Bells]

I agree, i also think its far better to agree/dissagree with a post/thread via the rep option... it dont clog up the threads its self with these very same comments

Well I don't! If a mod wishes to take umbrage with anything posted, I would prefer they had the courage to do it via pm or on an open thread; where the recipient can at least reply to any such criticism. A little too much Blair-style authoritarianism has become only too common on this forum in recent weeks. Mods are supposed to moderate, not act as a drumhead courts martial. Lighten up, this forum is being stifled by political correctness and over-moderation. In this, I do not mean the deletion of posts containing abuse, profanity etc; nothing wrong with removing that kind of stuff at all. Any forum is a dynamic evolving and, sometimes, a regressing organism. Many people, many differing opinions and all in a state of flux. Why the recent desire to try to create an online utopia? Too much control destroys imagination and creativity.

"If we do not find anything pleasant, at least we shall find something new."
Voltaire

[MickeyDredd]

[quote=Mass]

"If we do not find anything pleasant, at least we shall find something new."
Voltaire

Voltaire, what from the film Big! - he said that? ;)

[Renton]

[quote=Renton]

Voltaire, what from the film Big! - he said that? ;)

I think he was around somewhat before the movie industry!!! :roll:

[Harris]

Renton m8, From what I understand the forum had become a bit of a battle ground, I think that perhaps what you would call "Overmodding" was neccessary to whip the forum into shape! I am sure that things will mellow out a bit now we have all had our feathers clipped! ;-)

[Renton]

I sincerely hope so! Although, I have deep reservations as to where this forum is being driven. I'm off to Belgium tomorrow, until Monday evening; so the forum will not be troubled by the one and only dissident for a few days. Don't go too far down the Shining Path in the meantime! :D

[Harris]

I sincerely hope so! Although, I have deep reservations as to where this forum is being driven. I'm off to Belgium tomorrow, until Monday evening; so the forum will not be troubled by the one and only dissident for a few days. Don't go too far down the Shining Path in the meantime! :D


It will all be clean and shiney by the time you get back m8, you won't recognise it :wink:

Have a good trip m8

[Renton]

It will all be clean and shiney by the time you get back m8, you won't recognise it :wink:

Have a good trip m8

Thanks m8. That is what I'm worried about, the Shining Path, not where any of us would wish to go!

[Graham Stuart]

It will all be clean and shiney by the time you get back m8, you won't recognise it :wink:

Have a good trip m8

No it wont im staying on here:yawinkle:

[Harris]

No it wont im staying on here:yawinkle:

PMSL well some things never change :lol: :lol: ;)

[Renton]

No it wont im staying on here:yawinkle:

A fellow dissident???

[Big JoeJoe]

I sincerely hope so! Although, I have deep reservations as to where this forum is being driven. I'm off to Belgium tomorrow, until Monday evening; so the forum will not be troubled by the one and only dissident for a few days. Don't go too far down the Shining Path in the meantime! :D

Have a good trip Renton and do come back to the forum I do like your posts mate. You are a man who speaks his mind and I dont see anything wrong in that.

Cheers Joe

[Red-Devil]

I want a forum for falconry - not clogged up with **** and arguements! I think the new style modding has improved things overall!!
but forum is full of **** the mods push on us

[Graham Stuart]

Have a good trip Renton and do come back to the forum I do like your posts mate. You are a man who speaks his mind and I dont see anything wrong in that.

Cheers Joe

Hear hear dear boy, i agree with everything you have said on this thread Renton:yawinkle:

[Renton]

Have a good trip Renton and do come back to the forum I do like your posts mate. You are a man who speaks his mind and I dont see anything wrong in that.

Cheers Joe

Cheers Joe. Thanks for the support m8. :D

[Renton]

Hear hear dear boy, i agree with everything you have said on this thread Renton:yawinkle:

Thank you!

[Renton]

I'm away for now, early flight tomorrow. The support from like minded dissidents is greatly appreciated! Don't let this forum become too politically correct.

[BrianM]

SSSSSSSSSHHHHH they will hear you lol

[Graham Stuart]

I'm away for now, early flight tomorrow. The support from like minded dissidents is greatly appreciated! Don't let this forum become too politically correct.

No chance mate i will keep it ticking over till you return, have a good trip:yawinkle:

[Ben C]

[QUOTE=Mass]

Well I don't! If a mod wishes to take umbrage with anything posted, I would prefer they had the courage to do it via pm or on an open thread; where the recipient can at least reply to any such criticism. A little too much Blair-style authoritarianism has become only too common on this forum in recent weeks. Mods are supposed to moderate, not act as a drumhead courts martial. Lighten up, this forum is being stifled by political correctness and over-moderation. In this, I do not mean the deletion of posts containing abuse, profanity etc; nothing wrong with removing that kind of stuff at all. Any forum is a dynamic evolving and, sometimes, a regressing organism. Many people, many differing opinions and all in a state of flux. Why the recent desire to try to create an online utopia? Too much control destroys imagination and creativity.

"If we do not find anything pleasant, at least we shall find something new."
Voltaire

That is a well written quote.......but honestly in the scheme of things it's not entirely true is it.....I have had the exact same number of rows as I had BEFORE the moderators came in, read the same cyclical arguments and generally enjoyed myself.............I have also learnt a modicum as well.