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Game & Pursuit Falcon UK
13-04-2006, 11:34 AM
I was approached last night by a local guy who flys two Harris hawks. He appeared on my door step late last night nearly in tears. His Harris has lost blood supply to the last five primaries of the wing. Now the problem hes facing is that he has no cash to treat this bird. He has long term health problems and is unfortunate enough to be unable to work. Where if any where can he get veterinary assistance for her? He takes goood care of his birds and has just landed on hard times. No silly ideas, its got me because Ive never been in this situation and hopefully never shall be. The PDSA dont want to know?




Harris
13-04-2006, 11:37 AM
Have we any idea of what the vet costs are likely to be?

Game & Pursuit Falcon UK
13-04-2006, 11:39 AM
Previous experience around the two fifty mark.

FlameHairedFalconer
13-04-2006, 11:43 AM
I'm stunned the PDSA dont want to know. I regularily contribute to them as a charity on the basis that they are supposed to help all animals brought to them. I will seriously have to reevaluate my contributions to them now.

Has he tried asking a local vet if he can pay in installments? I have found that most vets are willing to help where they can.

FHF

Harris
13-04-2006, 11:43 AM
It is a tricky one, personally, I would get my bird to a vet, get it treated and then worry about the bill, I know this isn't really ethical but the birds welfare should come first, I am sure that the vet would give him some time to pay, or even pay in installments, I know what its like to be in his situation finacially, as I'm sure many people have been there from time to time. other than that I don't know what else he can do.

Harris
13-04-2006, 11:45 AM
I'm stunned the PDSA dont want to know. I regularily contribute to them as a charity on the basis that they are supposed to help all animals brought to them. I will seriously have to reevaluate my contributions to them now.

Has he tried asking a local vet if he can pay in installments? I have found that most vets are willing to help where they can.

FHF

Perhaps we could all bombard the PDSA with dissaproving emails!

Saker-Clive
13-04-2006, 11:56 AM
I remember asking the PDSA a couple of years ago, when I was on benefits regarding my HH,( just out of inerest) and they told me that they didn't really deal with exotics!!!!!

Perhaps they think that people with 'exotics' will always be able to afford basic vetenary help!!! peoples circumstances change all the time:evil:
The stupid thing is, a number of the big dog breeds that they see to should be classed as exotics' like one guy had 2 Great Danes!!!! On their assumption, if he can afford to even feed them properly, he should be able to pay vets fees!!!

Back on topic, most vets would be willing to take instalments if the guy explains to them his situation, and that he has also tried the PDSA and they refused for what ever reason................................

Game & Pursuit Falcon UK
14-04-2006, 11:24 AM
The Harris has been passed over into my care. The previous owner found a Vet who very reasonably treated the bird on a drugs only charge basis. Wing tip odema was the cause as I suspected, and she will loose part of the wing tip. She will enjoy retirement in a large ladered pen. Thanks for all you r input, and please note the PDSA took no action whatsoever!!!!!!! I would particularly like to thank Hobby on here as he/she offered via PM to pay part of the bill. Hobby your generosity gave me back a little of my respect for other falconers, thak you once again.

Liam Hay
14-04-2006, 11:28 AM
how did it get wing tip odema K was it bad husbandry or some thing else

Liam

Matthew Lambert
14-04-2006, 02:57 PM
where does the guy live maybe somebody local is a falconer aswell as a vet you never know just thinking out loud

Sprout
14-04-2006, 03:21 PM
Give us a ring Karl - we'll get it sorted.

Matthew Lambert
14-04-2006, 03:26 PM
good on you sprout

Jonathan Hall
05-07-2006, 09:31 PM
I was approached last night by a local guy who flys two Harris hawks. He appeared on my door step late last night nearly in tears. His Harris has lost blood supply to the last five primaries of the wing. Now the problem hes facing is that he has no cash to treat this bird. He has long term health problems and is unfortunate enough to be unable to work. Where if any where can he get veterinary assistance for her? He takes goood care of his birds and has just landed on hard times. No silly ideas, its got me because Ive never been in this situation and hopefully never shall be. The PDSA dont want to know?


Get in touch with Jon from the Wessex Bird of Prey Rescue, he has agreed to help with financial costs.
jon_hall88@msn.com

Pitbull
05-07-2006, 09:58 PM
as far as the PDSA goes i thought it was a medium for vet students both national and international too gain experience hence mainly dealing with the more simple dogs cats rabbits etc etc

Matthew Patching
05-07-2006, 10:02 PM
we had 2 african spots go down with wing tip a couple of winters ago, treatment with hemoroid cream 6 times a day and nanolox powder administered on there food, coupled with heated accomadation and hot towels got them both through it and they are still flying, but you have to catch it early, while there is still watery blisters aparrent.

HawkMan69UK
05-07-2006, 10:04 PM
im sure if we all gave a pound theres enough of us to cover it set up a paypal acount

Hobby
05-07-2006, 11:04 PM
K Whats the latest with the HH?

Coedhirion
06-07-2006, 12:03 AM
How could a HH get wing tip oedema in mid summer???? If it is that, then it happened ages ago. It was in the UK I asume??
As for the PDSA ... I cant type what I feel about them, I would get barred or warned or sumit. Just say, I had a smashing, working sheep dog bitch who tore the tendons in the front leg. The only vets around here with the facilities and knowledge to operate were PDSA. They refused as I dont get income support and I was told that I should take the dog to a local vet and get the leg amputated, despite the fact that it was possible to do a full repair to the ligaments and the dog's leg would have been back to full working order if they were willing to treat her. The local vet did try, but without the knowledge and screws and wire etc the dog's leg was left permanantly bent and not very strong. Plus I picked up a bill for £700. I would have paid that to the PDSA if they were willing to treat her :evil:

Barbary Boy
06-07-2006, 12:15 AM
the pdsa is a joke! my sister in law qualifies for there vetinary help and i take her every month, as one of her dogs has cussins diseasse.i sit there waiting every month and watch all these people come in with thier "hard dogs" there big **** off 4x4s in the car park, dripping in bling! its a joke! if you can afford an £800 dog and drive a car, smoke and have an obvious foreign tan, then pay your bloody vets bills?

DeadDogs
06-07-2006, 12:29 AM
How very true

GoodFooter
06-07-2006, 12:33 AM
this thread is 3 month old which answers a few previous questions.....the bird should be on the road to recovery or not. anyone know?

1ABHawker
19-09-2006, 06:16 PM
how's the bird now? cracking to see people offering to help, what a generous lot you all are!...on that note i have a rather hefty gas bill? any offers? The harris comes in sometimes & likes the heat if that helps tug at your heart strings?:yawinkle: