Shut up about antis!

[Pitbull]

I am so oooohhhhh

well it winds me up when peoples excuse of deleteing, editing, closing, or whatever is " what would the antis think "
how many times in the forum do you here "well what would the antis think if they read this" maybe if alot of it wasnt Bull then some might change thier mind or atleast see it for themselves.
the whole idea of a forum is to gather round and exchange ideas, experiences, and gain truthfull knowledge, If people are willing to ask a question and get a few answers from some people on this forum and just go with it because they say so and not further their research out with then you want get far. Im all about furthering myself not just buy going by what others say.
God we are all individuals with our own thoughts no one pushes you into things.
Just because someone reads something in a book or a web page and may get upset about it it doesnt mean it shouldnt be discussed.

why does everyone want to please others at the expense of their own believes or pleasure.:evil:

BAN THE TEXT ANTIs

god i feel better now......Im going out hunting now

[Renton]

Political correctness once more rears its ugly head on this forum? :roll: Freedom of speech sidelined once again?

Try this quote to keep things in perspective:

Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write.

Voltaire, letter to M. le Riche, February 6, 1770
French author, humanist, rationalist, & satirist (1694 - 1778)

[Hawkmaster]

Yes I agree in a way but we also want to protray a good image for falconry because if all they hear see and experience is killing, bloodshed and things dying, . . . . WE WILL BE TARGETED.

As you know it is not all about those thing, but SO much more.

MOVED FROM GENERAL FALCONRY

[Talon]

i a gree with you there pitbull.
i stated more or less the same point in a other thread.

[Graham Stuart]

I think the whole ANTI'S thing is always used far too much(sorry for mentioning it Pitbull), do you all think these folk have nothing better to do than trawl through internet sites looking for people like us, and if they do so what, Whatever happened to freadom of speech, i dont come on here much now as i cant be bothered with all the deleated postes etc i thought the Forum was great before, but now i can't break wind in front of the pc without getting a bad rep or warning, whatever happened to having a bit of a laugh and **** taking, all gone now we all have to be politically correct, F*CK me whats the world coming too, right im off for a good Sh*t and a cuppa then take barney down the old railway line, just hope i dont meet any Anti's lol:yawinkle:

[Jester]

question is ...................

do we want to be seen to be skulking around hiding things away and not speaking about them as if they are terrible things to be doing which in itself is ammo for the lentil sucking tree huggers :evil:

or do we stand up to them and say f*ck you it is legal so we will keep doing it

my guess is it need to be balanced somewhere in the middle ground, but how to acheive that when falconers can rarely agree on the colour of **** is going to be very very tricky

[Harris]

my guess is it need to be balanced somewhere in the middle ground, but how to acheive that when falconers can rarely agree on the colour of **** is going to be very very tricky

I agree!

United we stand, Divded we fall!!! :!:

[Pioneer]

I have just tried to reply to this thread ,why wont you let me do so ,is this the political correctness everybody is complaning about? pioneer like you dont know

[Tim Laycock]

I think the whole ANTI'S thing is always used far too much(sorry for mentioning it Pitbull), do you all think these folk have nothing better to do than trawl through internet sites looking for people like us

Yes I think exactly this!, If you dont like the way this site is moderated then dont use it, its realy simple :finga:

[Sean]

do you all think these folk have nothing better to do than trawl through internet sites looking for people like us,
yup:(

[Pioneer]

Well cant say i wasent warned, seems everyone was right,except the eternal optomist me that is,bye bye Pioneer

[Tim Laycock]

What are you banging on about? :rolleyes:

[FlameHairedFalconer]

do you all think these folk have nothing better to do than trawl through internet sites looking for people like us,

You are quite right, they are all busy digging up corpses and hiding the remains.

These people will stoop to incredible depths, without a thought for humanity, why on earth do you think they are going to bypass falconry? Because theres only a few of us? There arnt that many guinea pig farmers either.

FHF

[Kevin Massey]

You are quite right, they are all busy digging up corpses and hiding the remains.

These people will stoop to incredible depths, without a thought for humanity, why on earth do you think they are going to bypass falconry? Because theres only a few of us? There arnt that many guinea pig farmers either.

FHF

good point that....i just feel that its pointless raising issues after thay have taken what the need to do damage

[MattSpar]

Monsieur l'abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write.

An admirable axiom we'd all do well to emulate.

[MitchellBrad]

"why does everyone want to please others at the expense of their own believes or pleasure. "

"WE WILL BE TARGETED"

"Worrying is the way the responsible citizen of an advanced society demonstrates his virtue: He feels good by feeling bad. But what to worry about?" I picked up this quote somewhere today. Pretty good.

Most are sheep though none of us want to admit it. We follow the flock and often are led to slaughter without a complaint. Occasionally an individual seperates from the flock to become an Eagle. Why do you think the one of the Roman Standards was an eagle, the aquila, the standard of the entire legion?? Lose that standard to an enemy and your dishonored. Eagles win in the minds of most and, we like to think when they lose they go down fighting to the last breath. When life leaves them they only gave up life, the thought of returning to sheepdom never crossed their minds. There are a lot of sheep on this side of the pond too.

OK, I wrote some hokey stuff above. The point is are you going to be a sheep and bleat about the anti's. Or are you going to be an eagle and confront the anti's? You don't have to use their tactics though I think they have some good ones. Your own Winston Churchill said, "we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender" Stand up and do what you were famous for!

If every falconer in the UK were to contribute say 100 pounds to something like a falconry defense fund. They would have some cash to work with. To counter, defend, go on the offensive and badger the anti's. Nothing illegal of course but if you go down you'll go down fighting and not bleating.

Nuff from me for a while. Off in the distance I can hear the drums a'beating.

[Pioneer]

What are you banging on about? :rolleyes:

Obviously from your performance as mediator nothing you would understand,dont reply to this reply you have nothing to add except rudeness ex pioneer

[Tim Laycock]

Obviously from your performance as mediator nothing you would understand,dont reply to this reply you have nothing to add except rudeness ex pioneer


A most inteligent statment http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/images/smilies/icon_eyes.gif

I ask a question and get a jibe in return!

If you are driven to make a formal complaint why not discuss it with the person with whom you have the gripe with first, you might have found yourself pleasantly suprised but this is obviously not your style is it.

Shame realy but it speaks a volume about you Mr Stotton.

[Beaujest]

It seems that in-fighting will win the day and we can all shoot ourselves in the foot (as soon as we can get it out of our mouths !).
We obviously dont need antis :twisted:
I thought divide and conquer was an opposition tactic,not a self destruct manouvere.

[Dave G]

all my anties on my moms side were rite cows ;) :rolleyes:

[MattSpar]

I must just come in here to say my views on this issue have nothing whatever to do with the anti fieldsports lobby. If there were no such thing, I'd still be opposed to the use of bagged quarry.

[Hobby]

I must just come in here to say my views on this issue have nothing whatever to do with the anti fieldsports lobby. If there were no such thing, I'd still be opposed to the use of bagged quarry.
I agree with you on this.

[Beaujest]

The antis will be antis whatever we do,thats why they are called antis.they would find fault with the colour of your eyes if it suited them.This forum is for discussion of ALL points of falconry and wether you agree with them or not everyone is entitled to an opinion.If you feel strongly enough about a specific point,argue it,but lets be adult about it.

[BillyBird]

just out of interest and it is probably a waste of breath, but i was talking to a lady who had been a member of the rspca most of her life but who is no longer a member, and she was telling me that the antis infiltrated the rspca as members from as long as fifteen years ago, as the numbers grew and they attended and voted at the AGMS. [a] they managed to oust some of the long term committee members and [b] managed to bring the banning of fox hunting to the fore and finally succeeded.we all know that the banning of fox hunting has been discussed for some years now. just a point worth pondering when having heated and disjointed arguments regarding the future of bop keepers.

[Malcolm Edgar]

We ALL desire,the freedom to express our views (be they politically correct or otherwise) AND we ALL also want to protect and ensure the continuance of our ancient art.
But it would appear that these two, not unreasonable, desires are sadly becoming mutually exclusive. It really will be a VERY BAD day if/when that actually does come about.
I suggest that we will all have to work hard to find 'middle ground' on many issues within the forum.
- Just as a footnote, I have say that I really do detest the current level of 'political correctness' that is foisted on us by the Government (irrespective of the party in Government). Is it any wonder the 'Anti's are thriving!!!
M

[Beaujest]

We ALL desire,the freedom to express our views (be they politically correct or otherwise) AND we ALL also want to protect and ensure the continuance of our ancient art.
But it would appear that these two, not unreasonable, desires are sadly becoming mutually exclusive. It really will be a VERY BAD day if/when that actually does come about.
I suggest that we will all have to work hard to find 'middle ground' on many issues within the forum.
- Just as a footnote, I have say that I really do detest the current level of 'political correctness' that is foisted on us by the Government (irrespective of the party in Government). Is it any wonder the 'Anti's are thriving!!!
M
I'm not sure its political correctness,just some " you will think what we want you to think"ness:twisted:

[Malcolm Edgar]

I'm not sure its political correctness,just some " you will think what we want you to think"ness:twisted:
Point taken BJ. Then where it arises 'agree to disagree' must kick in and above all we must strive for solidarity. I think its already been said on this thread 'divide us and conquer us' - we mustn't let that happen.
M

[Renton]

I'm not sure its political correctness,just some " you will think what we want you to think"ness:twisted:

Sounds like just like political correctness then! :D

[GregMik]

Sounds like just like political correctness then! :D

Renton,
Are you talking about the way this forum is moderated?

Greg

[Renton]

Unusually, given my propensity to complain about over-moderation; I was not making reference as to how this forum is moderated! Just commenting on my interpretation of the statement, "you will think what we want you to thinkness". :lol:

[BlueBoy]

Yes I agree in a way but we also want to protray a good image for falconry because if all they hear see and experience is killing, bloodshed and things dying, . . . . WE WILL BE TARGETED.

As you know it is not all about those thing, but SO much more.

MOVED FROM GENERAL FALCONRY



your right .....and lets stop calling them antis, the correct term is terrorists.

[Yarak1]

A most inteligent statment http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/images/smilies/icon_eyes.gif

I ask a question and get a jibe in return!

If you are driven to make a formal complaint why not discuss it with the person with whom you have the gripe with first, you might have found yourself pleasantly suprised but this is obviously not your style is it.

Shame realy but it speaks a volume about you Mr Stotton.

This is exactly why we are in danger of falling under any pressure from opposing groups.................they don't need to destroy us we are doing that ourselves.............

[Pitbull]

your right .....and lets stop calling them antis, the correct term is terrorists.

Im not bothered what there called. I just wish people would not come on here and make an escuse to why things should not be written or said because of what whoever may think.

I cant remember who said it, i think mattspar but if you enjoy doining it do it. As long as your not breaking the law