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[BlueHawk]

Just a general one, but how much is too much?

A bells on legs, tails, necks and flying with two transmitters.

But if you think about it added to the reward tag, squirrel chaps, backpack,tailmount and everything else what differences can it make to the flight of the bird and what g forces are involved in the stoop?

Do you think its better to travel light or belts and braces?

I have my own opinions but just wondered if anyone had good/bad experiences?

[ColdZero]

if i was flying a smaller bird like a spar i would be very concious about what weight i would be putting on the bird. For instance i would use traditionals and might not use bells just have the 3.5g transmitter if it was vocal. Probably a backpack mount too so its symetrical and not hindering anything. For my RT though a few grams really can't make any difference but i still make sure everything is balanced and i make sure the bells are light.

[BlueHawk]

if i was flying a smaller bird like a spar i would be very concious about what weight i would be putting on the bird. For instance i would use traditionals and might not use bells just have the 3.5g transmitter if it was vocal. Probably a backpack mount too so its symetrical and not hindering anything. For my RT though a few grams really can't make any difference but i still make sure everything is balanced and i make sure the bells are light.

Have to agree there CZ

What you said about symetry is a good point too.

Also made me think if anyone has ever used extra weight to improve fitness.

I know I might take some pelters for this, but I generally leave the leash and swivel on when jumping them to the fist if I can't fly them that day and it does make a difference to their work rate. (I'm fortunate enough to be able to jump them indoors with nowhere or nothing to damage them selves on)

That idea was taken from some of the fitness training I used to do with weights used to improve speed and response time....

Awaiting the onslaught.....

[Saker-Clive]

I must agree with CZ; when I flew the Perlin last year, he had leg bells.....Noble No.0, although when very close I could hear them, just, when he was 20 yards away, they were useless!!! They did whistle when he was flying hard though.
My HH usually goes out like a Morris dancer with beels on both legs and tail. Noble 5's, and the same with my Saker but only on the legs.

I can hear her bells out to 7-800 yards away in the right conditions.
I personally don't think that 'extra weight' training will do much for the confidence of he bird; just plenty of regular flying in varying wind conditions is the best way. Both of my birds are flown in winds over 25mph. The Saker prefers a good wind in general and she is very fit, (she must be, as she has had several encounters with wild Pere's and jinxed and stayed with them without getting hurt)

[MattSpar]

I flew a Jack last season, initially wearing a mini transmitter which was supposed to be so light as not to hamper him in any way. I could see this wasn't the case at all. I tried mouting the transmitter on the tail, and the leg, but to the keen observer, it was clearly affecting him. In the end (gasp!) I flew him with no telemetry at all.

[HawkMan69UK]

anyone ever flown birds naked (the birds not the falconer in some cases exceptable but who i fly with:vom: )any how back on topic....iflew my female harris and a a pere/saker a few years ago naked but you have to be totally 100 confindent in your birds and suroundings the harris was spooky as she followed on silent you are always looking around just to check:yawinkle: ...the falcon was a different matter fantastic to watch flying naked she would be up sometimes over a hour playing on the thermals and coming back when the lure was tossed out ....the best day i had was when i was out and a gang of walkers came acroos the ridge and the falcon was doing some low stoops on a jackdaw that was hinding under a tractor...obvious they thought it was a wild falcon and i was some falcon whisperer when i went over and eventully picked her up:lol: only did it a few times but it was always with great excitment:lol:

[Hobby]

anyone ever flown birds naked (the birds not the falconer in some cases exceptable but who i fly with:vom: )any how back on topic....iflew my female harris and a a pere/saker a few years ago naked but you have to be totally 100 confindent in your birds and suroundings the harris was spooky as she followed on silent you are always looking around just to check:yawinkle: ...the falcon was a different matter fantastic to watch flying naked she would be up sometimes over a hour playing on the thermals and coming back when the lure was tossed out ....the best day i had was when i was out and a gang of walkers came acroos the ridge and the falcon was doing some low stoops on a jackdaw that was hinding under a tractor...obvious they thought it was a wild falcon and i was some falcon whisperer when i went over and eventully picked her up:lol: only did it a few times but it was always with great excitment:lol:Yes I flew my FHH for the first part of last season with nothing except tail mounted transmitter,after a while I put a small bell on her leg with velcro fastening,as I could not get on with not knowing where she was 100 per cent of the time.Her stealth amazed me.