Left handed lure swingers!!!!!!

[Saker-Clive]

This is probably more for those that have done displays etc. but there may be others that fly other peoples birds...........................

I'm left handed, I do everything else in falconry as a right hander, wear a l/h glove, use my right hand as most do to tie the knot and take off equipment but I swing the lure with my left hand. I know that in general, falcons will only fly to one person but when I've been with freinds and their birds, we sometimes say to each other, "......you bring her in or make a few passes!". My Saker, has come to the lure for a couple of people now but that was just thrown out on the ground; we tried her a short while ago and but all she did was pass on his opposite side (his right) to where he put the lure. His bird did exactly the same to me but passed on my left. The bird did eventually make a few passes for me but seemed a little confused!!!
Now do you think it was just a 'new' person trying to fly the birds OR the fact the lure was being swung opposite to what they are used to!!!! I would imagine that a hunting bird wouldn't make any difference as its quarry would be trying to jinx about to get away..........................

before I get slated for not being able to pass the lure to my left; it is just something I am very uncofortable with but I am practising! I can successfully complete the overhead, ground and through passes and have been told that I look comfortable swinging thelure.

[Jester]

dunno how similar this is but last year i was off work for a month with a frozen shoulder (left) and i didnt want to waste the lovely time off so i got hold of a right hand glove so i could still get jester out.

it took a few days and a 1oz drop in weight before he would even think about flying to the right fist instead of the left.

maybe birds prefer one side to the other :rolleyes:

[OutOnAWing]

why should you have to adjust to the other side, i'm right handed but know left handed falconers.yes it takes the birds a little time to adjust but doesn't that give them a bit of a challenge, not the same old pass to the left.Dont worry about it as long as the bird and you are happy and safe then so what.:goodman:

p.s why are you doing everything as a right hander?,it not a rule of falconry that you have to be righthanded,you wont go to hell:lol:

[Saker-Clive]

why should you have to adjust to the other side, i'm right handed but know left handed falconers.yes it takes the birds a little time to adjust but doesn't that give them a bit of a challenge, not the same old pass to the left.Dont worry about it as long as the bird and you are happy and safe then so what.:goodman:

p.s why are you doing everything as a right hander?,it not a rule of falconry that you have to be righthanded,you wont go to hell:lol:

When I first started out 5 years ago, I was told that if I had a right handed glove my own bird would be fine with it but when out in company, the bird would get confused; I can see the problem, simply as the birds will fly to the back of the hand when offered and not the palm side.
For me, giving the birds variety in their lure work and keeping it interesting is the key to a happy bird. It's when the bird gets bored or so used to where the lure is going to be placed or offered it will have no reason to carry on working with enthusiasm....................................

[Harris]

So do you need a left handed lure :rolleyes:

[Miguel]

I'm lefted handed too, and altough I do everything in falconry " the normal way" I lure fly with my left hand (altough I can lure fly with my right, but not as good) and I've found that at the begining the birds enter the lure on the "wrong" side, cause they antecipate your move, but you can easily solve this by trowing the lure a bit sooner on the first passes. The bird will follow it... After that it get easy, you can fly them normally and they'll get it.

Also I was the only who flew our lanner and when he started to fly with other people, she did the same to a right handed guy... But we again sort it out pretty easy!

[Yarak1]

This is probably more for those that have done displays etc. but there may be others that fly other peoples birds...........................

I'm left handed, I do everything else in falconry as a right hander, wear a l/h glove, use my right hand as most do to tie the knot and take off equipment but I swing the lure with my left hand. I know that in general, falcons will only fly to one person but when I've been with freinds and their birds, we sometimes say to each other, "......you bring her in or make a few passes!". My Saker, has come to the lure for a couple of people now but that was just thrown out on the ground; we tried her a short while ago and but all she did was pass on his opposite side (his right) to where he put the lure. His bird did exactly the same to me but passed on my left. The bird did eventually make a few passes for me but seemed a little confused!!!
Now do you think it was just a 'new' person trying to fly the birds OR the fact the lure was being swung opposite to what they are used to!!!! I would imagine that a hunting bird wouldn't make any difference as its quarry would be trying to jinx about to get away..........................

before I get slated for not being able to pass the lure to my left; it is just something I am very uncofortable with but I am practising! I can successfully complete the overhead, ground and through passes and have been told that I look comfortable swinging thelure.

The secret is to change your sequence of passes regularly on each session so that they are never able to out guess you....... that way they should fly for anyone....:wink:

[Tim Laycock]

Sounds like it could be a lot of things to me (Bear in mind I am no longwinger but though I say so myself I can swing a lure to a falcon with the best of em :rolleyes: aint done it for years though )

Dont take this wrong but.....

Could be a lure bound falcon just flying like a robot.

Could be the falcon just not pursuing the lure with the zeal that they should be.

A mixture of forehand, backhand and overhead passes keeps them on their toes :twisted:

Are the falcons normaly getting their feet right out to the lure for a bind when they make passes in the normal scheme of things?

[Yarak1]

Quote/Blackbird.....A mixture of forehand, backhand and overhead passes keeps them on their toes


Spot on Tim..........:cool:

[Saker-Clive]

Sounds like it could be a lot of things to me (Bear in mind I am no longwinger but though I say so myself I can swing a lure to a falcon with the best of em :rolleyes: aint done it for years though )

Dont take this wrong but.....

Could be a lure bound falcon just flying like a robot.

Could be the falcon just not pursuing the lure with the zeal that they should be.

A mixture of forehand, backhand and overhead passes keeps them on their toes :twisted:

Are the falcons normaly getting their feet right out to the lure for a bind when they make passes in the normal scheme of things?

Hi Tim and John, no I haven't taken your comments the wrong way:razz:

As anyone that has ever seen my Saker fly will tell you she is not lurebound; in fact she basically does what she wants but she does it because of the trust 'we' both have with each other. She will one day stay close and work the lure but that is after she has had her play time:supz:, and another, she'll go up and dot out and be flyinging about for a long time before coming in and working the lure.

Yes Tim, and I can only go on what my bird does and more often than not, her feet are out trying to grab the lure and not just flying past!!
As I posted earlier, i vary the passes as much as poss. so as to keep the workouts exciting.

I think that everyone is missing the point of the thread, it is not about my ability as a lure swinger but if the bird gets confused by seeing a lure swung in a different angle or approach from someone else that is 'different' to what they are used to. I accept if a bird was really tight in weight it may not be at all bothered as its hunger would take over but hopefully, no one here flies their birds that tight!!
Perhaps I should have put up a poll as to how many on here that fly longwings etc. are left handed, then we could see if/what differences or problems they have encountered..............................

[Yarak1]

Hi Tim and John, no I haven't taken your comments the wrong way:razz:

As anyone that has ever seen my Saker fly will tell you she is not lurebound; in fact she basically does what she wants but she does it because of the trust 'we' both have with each other. She will one day stay close and work the lure but that is after she has had her play time:supz:, and another, she'll go up and dot out and be flyinging about for a long time before coming in and working the lure.

Yes Tim, and I can only go on what my bird does and more often than not, her feet are out trying to grab the lure and not just flying past!!
As I posted earlier, i vary the passes as much as poss. so as to keep the workouts exciting.

I think that everyone is missing the point of the thread, it is not about my ability as a lure swinger but if the bird gets confused by seeing a lure swung in a different angle or approach from someone else that is 'different' to what they are used to. I accept if a bird was really tight in weight it may not be at all bothered as its hunger would take over but hopefully, no one here flies their birds that tight!!
Perhaps I should have put up a poll as to how many on here that fly longwings etc. are left handed, then we could see if/what differences or problems they have encountered..............................

I see your point Saker.......

I make my birds work to how I want them to pass not how they want to pass ....if that makes sense?..............

[Tim Laycock]

Clive, I didnt miss your point entirely but I see it a lot clearer now :yawinkle:

[LeighJauncey]

Mattspar and I are both left handed but he does everything, including swinging the lure, right handed. I, on the other hand (literally), do everything right handed except lure swinging. We stoop each other's birds to the lure without any problem.

[MattSpar]

Could be the falcon just not pursuing the lure with the zeal that they should be.

Yes, that'll almost always be the reason.

As LJ rightly suggests, a bird properly stooped will take no notice whether you're right or left handed.