are eagles are good bird to fly???

[jed]

what is that facination in flying any eagle?????

[Ben C]

Their might, weight, grandour, power, beauty, complexity and sheer bloody size for a start.

The fact they can catch a deer also helps. :supz: :supz: :supz:

[Afshimo]

they are smart, huge, have amazing feet (commonly known as tootsies around here :-| ) and everything above. The eagle was one of the first birds I saw an it can just be love at first sight lol. flying one would be awesome, a pleasure and a honour to say the least.

One day, I'll get my eagle....:heart: :heart: :heart:

[SSL]

what is that facination in flying any eagle?????

What do you fly Jed? Your profile is abit lean.

[Coedhirion]

what is that facination in flying any eagle?????

Magic, magnificent.... The flight ..... the whole bird and the way nature has made it.
One day if I ever move to a place with suitable quarry and have what it takes to serve the bird... I will fly an eagle !!!

[GoodFooter]

african hawk eagle......not so big but beautiful......and damned useful from what I hear!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MattSpar]

what is that facination in flying any eagle?????

Go and see a really good Golden Eagle being flown well, and you won't have to ask.

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Most points have been covered by others, but!!! They are the best all round hare hawk if flown properly. They also bond to there handlers in a way that non eagle falconers seam to find hard to understand.

[Kennelre]

Who was it that said........'If you have to ask the question than you will not understand the answer'.......

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Who was it that said........'If you have to ask the question than you will not understand the answer'.......
LOL.

[Intek Hosting]

When you first start flying hawks, people who have known you for a while ask, Why?
When enough of them have asked, why?, you let the bird fly to one of them and when it land and the glove you ask them, "Now do you get why?"
When they say no!!, you realise that you either get flying a bird or you dont.

If you dont, just get it!!, there's just no possible way it could be explained to you!!

[MattSpar]

When you first start flying hawks, people who have known you for a while ask, Why?



To which my usual answer is, "What a bloody stupid question."

[Barry]

When trained for waiting on the relationship and link between the bird and falconer is a moving thing. Here is a bird several thousand feet above your head, able to see and discern quarry over several miles, and of course able to take almost any species it sees (talking of the large eagle species here), but still the bird chooses to remain in position above your head or off one side or the other and take game at your behest. This bird may, when trained stay in the air for several hours at the time. It may squabble with other wild eagles, be harrassed by peregrines, crows and ravens. It will deal with these interruptions, and still remain in postion, or return to position at pitch above your head. If pushed to ground or below the skyline, the bird will take a rest, await the wind and take a new pitch to search for you. We are remembering we are working a bird that needs you on no level what so ever, it chooses because of the trust developed, to stay with you. When game is taken, despite being able to carry most game at will in a good wind, the bird will tollerate your approach and relinquish game to you. All this takes place in a mountain setting, several degrees below zero and in a wind where it may take two people to open a Land Rover door.

You know I just can't figure it out. I wonder what the attraction is?

Barry.

[CJ#HaRrIs HAwKs RuLe#]

Who was it that said........'If you have to ask the question than you will not understand the answer'.......


bit harsh. ;)

then again this question is very diffrent to a "what do I feed my bird question"

[W Jenkins]

Go and see a really good Golden Eagle being flown well, and you won't have to ask.

Thats just what he should spot on MattSpar:D

[Matthew Patching]

Theres no feeling on earth like watching your eagle against a blue november sky, riding the wind, fighting to maintain that pitch above you or the dog, knowing that you will serve him knowing that if you stop then you are just putting a ferret down a hole or trying to get a hare out of a rock pile just for him.

And when alls said and done you go home with a bird that will always be special to you and when the seasons over and hes up in weight you will be counting the days til you can do it all again, and he'll be building nests out of the material that you have provided him and calling to you, his hunting partner, his mate & his provider.

Eagle falconry has me enslaved, I have drove for 10 hours, got out of the car hawked for another 8 and then drove back, I could have hawked at home, I have good land, I could have chased brown hares off the fist or gone after those hill rabbits, but Id rather have a crack at the white ones, and if that means that I have to be a slave and miss my wifes birthday then so be it.

Eagle falconry is a master slave relationship, they are the master you are the slave, anything for the eagle, anything at all.
ME:) :) :) :) :

[MattSpar]

Theres no feeling on earth like watching your eagle against a blue november sky, riding the wind, fighting to maintain that pitch above you or the dog, knowing that you will serve him knowing that if you stop then you are just putting a ferret down a hole or trying to get a hare out of a rock pile just for him.

And when alls said and done you go home with a bird that will always be special to you and when the seasons over and hes up in weight you will be counting the days til you can do it all again, and he'll be building nests out of the material that you have provided him and calling to you, his hunting partner, his mate & his provider.

Eagle falconry has me enslaved, I have drove for 10 hours, got out of the car hawked for another 8 and then drove back, I could have hawked at home, I have good land, I could have chased brown hares off the fist or gone after those hill rabbits, but Id rather have a crack at the white ones, and if that means that I have to be a slave and miss my wifes birthday then so be it.

Eagle falconry is a master slave relationship, they are the master you are the slave, anything for the eagle, anything at all.
ME:) :) :) :) :

Absolutely excellent mindset.

[Matthew Patching]

Absolutely excellent mindset.
Thanks Matt, He deos have me enslaved, I was out at his lawn perches this evening getting **** wet though while he went though the whole courting thing, still not producing may be infertile being a hybrid, but I dont want to breed from him anyway, just reinforces my importance and bond with him.

[BlackShaheen1]

When trained for waiting on the relationship and link between the bird and falconer is a moving thing. Here is a bird several thousand feet above your head, able to see and discern quarry over several miles, and of course able to take almost any species it sees (talking of the large eagle species here), but still the bird chooses to remain in position above your head or off one side or the other and take game at your behest. This bird may, when trained stay in the air for several hours at the time. It may squabble with other wild eagles, be harrassed by peregrines, crows and ravens. It will deal with these interruptions, and still remain in postion, or return to position at pitch above your head. If pushed to ground or below the skyline, the bird will take a rest, await the wind and take a new pitch to search for you. We are remembering we are working a bird that needs you on no level what so ever, it chooses because of the trust developed, to stay with you. When game is taken, despite being able to carry most game at will in a good wind, the bird will tollerate your approach and relinquish game to you. All this takes place in a mountain setting, several degrees below zero and in a wind where it may take two people to open a Land Rover door.

You know I just can't figure it out. I wonder what the attraction is?

Barry.
what a post well done .top marks

[Berkut]

There is nothing like an eagle flown properly and nothing worse than one flown badly.

[Pitbull]

well i just cant wait for the day i am ready for one :supz:

[Matthew Patching]

There is nothing like an eagle flown properly and nothing worse than one flown badly.
to true berkut to true.
ME:)

[hedwig]

wat would you rather fly an eagle or an harris hawk ?
i know what i would choose

[Intek Hosting]

wat would you rather fly an eagle or an harris hawk ?
i know what i would choose
Depends on your experience!
Not about what you'd like to do its what you can do justice to. I wouldnt dream of trying to fly an eagle for some time.

[Matthew Patching]

Depends on your experience!
Not about what you'd like to do its what you can do justice to. I wouldnt dream of trying to fly an eagle for some time.

Doing justice to any bird takes dedication, good post jessica, with an eagle be prepaired to loose friends and partners, if they arnt very understanding.......
ME:)

[Ben 2K6]

what is that facination in flying any eagle?????
wat is rong wit an eagle ?????

[LongVVing]

Flying an eagle would be a fantastic experience. But where I fly and the quarry available I could never do it justice and would end up with a badly flown bird, so being realistic unless I moved to a suitable location I couldn't consider owning one. I would one day like to get the opportunity to see a golden eagle flown well.

All the best,

Mark

[Berkut]

Flying an eagle would be a fantastic experience. But where I fly and the quarry available I could never do it justice and would end up with a badly flown bird, so being realistic unless I moved to a suitable location I couldn't consider owning one. I would one day like to get the opportunity to see a golden eagle flown well.

All the best,

Mark
Mark,
PM me in the season and it can be arranged.

[LongVVing]

Mark,
PM me in the season and it can be arranged.

Neil,

Thanks for your very kind offer I shall pm you nearer the time. Would be good to see how your Gyr x Pere falcon has come along.

all the best,

Mark.

PS got my GyrxPere imprint moved on to a guy who has contacted me to say that he has managed to get her entered. he is very pleased with her and I am glad for that. She is as I suspected better with a total stranger. Only wish that she hadn't imprinted on my preventing me from achieving the same.

[Berkut]

Neil,

Thanks for your very kind offer I shall pm you nearer the time. Would be good to see how your Gyr x Pere falcon has come along.

all the best,

Mark.

PS got my GyrxPere imprint moved on to a guy who has contacted me to say that he has managed to get her entered. he is very pleased with her and I am glad for that. She is as I suspected better with a total stranger. Only wish that she hadn't imprinted on my preventing me from achieving the same.
Glad you got a good home for her.

[Berkut]

TLB don,t be shy. !!!!!

[Coedhirion]

wat would you rather fly an eagle or an harris hawk ?
i know what i would choose

Around here, with the quarry available and the terrain, give me a HH any day. In an area where the eagle can realy show its potential, then ...the eagle.

[Sting]

ive seen some good ones ive seen some bad ones but the buzz you get from flying and hunting with these magnificent creatures is second to none.on a different note has anybody got any opinions on the best goldie to go for.parent reared or imprint

[Berkut]

ive seen some good ones ive seen some bad ones but the buzz you get from flying and hunting with these magnificent creatures is second to none.on a different note has anybody got any opinions on the best goldie to go for.parent reared or imprint
Sting,
I have been rattling this around in my head for a while.
I can,t personally see any advantage in an imprint.All 4 I have trained have been parent reared.Their behaviour is such that I would say parent-reared every time,although I would enjoy imprinting one.

[Sprout]

I have a friens who has just purchased a male goldie - a presumed imprint. Lets just say I dont think he will ever consider flying another goldie again after the short but sharp experience of a mal-imprint goldie!! Saying that, as Berkut says, an eagle flying well is a sight to behold - nothing but nothing can beat it!!!! Apart from possibly a small peregrine taking a cock pheasant in a vertical stoop???

[Berkut]

I have a friens who has just purchased a male goldie - a presumed imprint. Lets just say I dont think he will ever consider flying another goldie again after the short but sharp experience of a mal-imprint goldie!! Saying that, as Berkut says, an eagle flying well is a sight to behold - nothing but nothing can beat it!!!! Apart from possibly a small peregrine taking a cock pheasant in a vertical stoop???
Sprout,
I organised a goldie for my brother.It was an imprint,but had been flown and was meant to be a dream to handle.Fat weight it was a dream,but as its weight came down it was lethal and would have caused serious injury, so the weight had to go back up.Not all is lost as it is showing signs of wanting to donate semen.
That is why flying goldies in the past was rubbished.They were all in-advertantly mal-imprinted as wild taken ones were removed from the nest at around 10 days old and openly hand fed.

[Sprout]

Similar to this bird, fine at fat weight but if asked to fly to the fist then aggressive as hell - and means it. Not spoke since so he may have got it sorted, will phone tomorrow for an update. Shame really, stunning looking bird.

[Berkut]

Similar to this bird, fine at fat weight but if asked to fly to the fist then aggressive as hell - and means it. Not spoke since so he may have got it sorted, will phone tomorrow for an update. Shame really, stunning looking bird.
PM me if you want my number or with his, I could go over a couple of things with him to see how they compare.
Regards,
Neil.

[Sprout]

Cheers, you have PM.

[TiercelJim]

what is that facination in flying any eagle?????
I suppose the same as a facination to fly any other type of bird[tiercel]

[Berkut]

what is that facination in flying any eagle?????
Unfortunately the fascination is for all the wrong reasons in some cases.I spoke to one guy who was trying to buy an eagle.He could not be talked out of it.When push came to shove he bought a female " because it was bigger than a male ". The guy was a total ring-piece and I wouldn,t have trusted him with a goldfish never mind a golden eagle.
He was an eagle owner for 3 days and took it back.

[Shannor]

lol, I hope he took it back because he got footed by it ;)

Here is a good question... those of you who fly eagles... when did you know you had the knowledge, time and experience to do one justice?

Or was it a case of not quite knowing, more believing, but jumping in onto a steep learning curve?

[Isaac]

Flying an eagle would be a fantastic experience. But where I fly and the quarry available I could never do it justice and would end up with a badly flown bird, so being realistic unless I moved to a suitable location I couldn't consider owning one. I would one day like to get the opportunity to see a golden eagle flown well.


I know a guy in the states that flys goldens and keeps on online journal of his flights every year ( http://www.austringer.org/journal.htm ) The entries are absolutely awesome to read and the best part is his wife occasionally films the flights and the DVD "Eagle Journal: The Movie" is due out any day now from what I hear. I'll be snatching one off the shelves as soon as it hits the market. So there's your chance to see a golden flown well but it may take longer to get to you folks in Europe...

[Berkut]

lol, I hope he took it back because he got footed by it ;)

Here is a good question... those of you who fly eagles... when did you know you had the knowledge, time and experience to do one justice?

Or was it a case of not quite knowing, more believing, but jumping in onto a steep learning curve?
I was ready years ago but didn,t have the land to justify flying an eagle.
Now I have great land so I fly eagles.The only problem is it is consumes your life to the detriment of all else.The same could be said for falconry in general
but I think eagles can push you a bit further.

[Ben C]

Berkut.

From the ones I have been alongside while hunting deer and fox, the sheer scale of even getting them fit marks them out from every other hawk or falcon I have ever seen. That in itself must be a half season job!!!

The bulk of them is so enormous that the muscle structure and sinew must take absolutely aeons to perfect. All of which goes BEFORE even getting them into yarak. The percentage difference of those that fly them to a high standard and those that merely own them, must be larger than any other BOP humans use.

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

Berkut.

From the ones I have been alongside while hunting deer and fox, the sheer scale of even getting them fit marks them out from every other hawk or falcon I have ever seen. That in itself must be a half season job!!!

The bulk of them is so enormous that the muscle structure and sinew must take absolutely aeons to perfect. All of which goes BEFORE even getting them into yarak. The percentage difference of those that fly them to a high standard and those that merely own them, must be larger than any other BOP humans use.
Spot on.

[JuliaK]

I fly Steppe and African Fish eagle in a Falconry..Eagles are big and beautiful.. The fascination of a Eagle? So, if you ever have flown one, you will understand how great it is to fly a eagle.
I haven't enough experience with golden eagles because they're too big for me at the moment.