Small bells

[Rapt0r]

Does anyone know of a supplier of v small good quality bells??
I know Peels-bells come highly recommended by most but they are temp out of production (till Oct)

Many thanks

Alex

[Ben C]

How small?

[Rapt0r]

How small?

Merlin small

[Ben C]

Mmmmmm that is small......

[FlameHairedFalconer]

teeeny weeeeeny Ben...:lol:

FHF

[HawkMan69UK]

i bought some canadian bell last week good tone and very loud for a small bell ..i bought them off of martin jones merlin/perlin size

[RabbitHawker]

small noble bells should be small and good

[Nemesis]

go on ben give it a go your bells are good could be your clame to fame

[Fawkes]

Hawkman, do you know who made those canadian bells? Often it seems hard to find falconry equipment in Canada..

[HawkMan69UK]

not sure ill post a pic if that helps

[HawkMan69UK]

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=15555&stc=1&d=1150324120

[Jarreth]

Anyone else know of Merlin sized Bells

[LeighJauncey]

Having the same problem at the moment.

[Ben C]

I am on the case this weekend...if they are any good I'll let you know. I am not promising anything.

[Nemesis]

Hi ben if thay are as good as the bell,s you made me thay will be perfic nice on /dave

[Ben C]

Here you go you Merlin fanatics.........small size but the same tone as a Harris bell...it is a BLOODY GOOD BELL!!! I have used a Nickel cuff for it to be a little more hard wearing but a fraction heavier.

Whoever posts a picture of thier Merlin on Lark on this thread gets to try it out for free and give an honest appraisal.

2hours of the best graft I have had on bells so far....thanks for the challenge fellas

[Nemesis]

Ding dong ben

[Fawkes]

Those are some beautiful bells, Ben, and so tiny!
Amazing work!

[Ben C]

Fawkes:

If you look closely I messed up the two halves by not putting the slit at right angles to the cuff.......................


However this has not affected the tone at all......:wink:

[LeighJauncey]

Here you go you Merlin fanatics.........small size but the same tone as a Harris bell...it is a BLOODY GOOD BELL!!! I have used a Nickel cuff for it to be a little more hard wearing but a fraction heavier.

Whoever posts a picture of thier Merlin on Lark on this thread gets to try it out for free and give an honest appraisal.

2hours of the best graft I have had on bells so far....thanks for the challenge fellas

Does this qualify - it's not too good quality - grabbed from a quicktime movie - but it was a hell of a good flight!

[Ben C]

Leigh that qualifies.......here are the pair with a pair of bi-coloured ones destined for the USA.........PM your address please.

[Ben C]

These are a bi-coloured pair for Rapt0r......please PM your address and they can go out with Leigh's. I tell you what these small bells are reet good fun........anyone got a Musket???????

[HawkMan69UK]

send a musket pair my way ben ill field test for you:lol:

[Ben C]

OK...do me a favour and post up a picture of their size......I am working blind here so I need a little help.

[HawkMan69UK]

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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/darkbluefalcon/lureme.jpg

[HawkMan69UK]

that any help ben:?: :D

[Ben C]

Jesus wept...THAT IS SMALL!!!!...........your a total pain in the back side you are!!!

Silly question i know but are looking to mount it on the tail.....???

[HawkMan69UK]

:-P yes mate tail mount ....now put your skills to the test :lol:

[Ben C]

Speak to you tomorrow....................or next year!!! TOTAL, TOTAL BARSTOOL...............:supz:

[MickeyDredd]

Better get the magnifying glass out for these ones Ben ;)

[Ben C]

Done em......but they are a bitch!!! Hawkman you are now officially my new worst enemy!!! They need polishing and drilling but the sound so far is bang on..........:supz: Another day and there yours mate!!!!! The ones on the left are for a Merlin the ones on the right are the Muskets......

[HawkMan69UK]

frick me ben you dont mess about...you this fast with everthing:lol: :supz:

[Ben C]

Its the challenge mate...I don't want to make too many of them they are a right ******.

[HawkMan69UK]

fair play mate pm me the price ill sort it :supz:

[Ben C]

Don't be bloody daft....the price is a picture of them on the hawk..........


There is no way on earth I would charge to have my bells on a Musket.......I should be paying you dude!:supz:

[Dave G]

good to see you knocking them bells out m8 ,looks like you realy have the knack now m8 :supz:

[Ben C]

Here you go........the finished article.....not happy with the slit on one of the bells Hawkman69. But I will send them to you anyway and you can tell me what you would like adjusted and I can then do another pair for you.

[Jastreb]

You will be my teacher Ben :wink:
They look greta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dougie Mc]

Ben you fancy making a few more merlin size

Hybred

[Fawkes]

Ben, you should post a pic of them next to a pair of HH bells - just to see how much smaller they are :D
Lovely bells! Out of curiosity, how much would you charge for RT bells?

[Ben C]

Fawkes the ones on the right are for a FHH so that should be about your size???

[Ben C]

Have now made a thrid pair of Musket bells....these are also for Hawkman69 as the others were just not right in terms of tone....(if your interested) The reason being that the dapper inside was slightly too large and instead of rolling was just sliding down the inside.....

anyway here is the finished article........

[HawkMan69UK]

cheers ben looking good ..anyone wanna buy some musket bells £25 a pair;)

[Fawkes]

Ben, what could you do for a male American Kestrel ;) ? He flies at just under 100g. At present he flies bell-less as they're all too big for him.

[Ben C]

100grams..............jesus wept..............OK I will try, but I am not promising anything

[Wilfred]

Ben, what could you do for a male American Kestrel ;) ? He flies at just under 100g. At present he flies bell-less as they're all too big for him.


Fawkes..are you hunting with the American Kestrel? And if so, on what?? any info or hunting stories about them?? if so please post them in the thread i started some days ago. About AK in falconry. In the longwing section of this forum

[LeighJauncey]

Here's a couple of pics of my jack with one of Ben's excellent bells - the tone and finish are excellent - possibly a touch large for a jack - but really super. Apologies for the bewit I was in a hurry to get him belled only to discover I didn't have any tiny cable ties!

[MattSpar]

Excellent little jack by the looks. Where'd you get that then?

[Fawkes]

Fawkes..are you hunting with the American Kestrel? And if so, on what?? any info or hunting stories about them?? if so please post them in the thread i started some days ago. About AK in falconry. In the longwing section of this forum

Wilfred (and Ben) - no he's not a hunting bird. He actually belongs to the center I work for and he's one of our best demo birds. He regularly hunts during demos, but he usually limits himself to dragonflies :lol: He has however, managed to catch two American robins (much larger than him) - a juvenile on the flying field and an adult through the mesh on his mews!

[Ben C]

That is very helpful.........the musket bells for a Jack it is then.....and the bigger ones for a Merlin....see what Hawkman69 thinks of the pair I sent on Wednesday.....

I have also sent out a pair of Spar bell and a musket bell to Hybred, so we can see what his reaction is.

Ben

[HawkMan69UK]

received the bells ben top man cheers..the secound ones you posted are a clearer sharper sound ....wait untill muskets out of moult and ill post pics with him wearing them :supz:

[Wilfred]

Here is some other interested customer...for 2 or 4 european spar bells...just in case you still would make some?? I am also very interested to hear, see and compare.

[Ben C]

Hawkman69: You can see exactly what I mean about the fist set being a little on the 'low' side. The reason was not just the dapper but also the type of metals being used!!! Brass only it not right for a good sounding bell.

Wilfred you have PM

[Ben C]

I am concerned that some bells are not getting through: Can Dougie and shaun keep an eye out as yours are on the way.

[Blaze]

Dont forget mine Ben! :wink: .........

[Ben C]

I haven't.....there up in three days time!!! I can only make a set a day at the moment because of work commitments. :supz: :supz: :supz:

[Blaze]

3 Days it is then! :supz: ..................

[Turumti]

Ben C,

What thickness brass do you use for ur bells? And also u have tried making bronze bells?

[Strix]

Hawkman, do you know who made those canadian bells? Often it seems hard to find falconry equipment in Canada..

Just order all your stuff of the web mate! :lol: I order all my falconry stuff from the U.S.A, Have to use the proper Currency tho. & Let me tell you it's a pain in the backside having to drive 80 miles to switch my Candian Money for United States Money. :roll:

[Ben C]

Ben C,

What thickness brass do you use for ur bells? And also u have tried making bronze bells?


I use 1mm brass plate.....No I have only used nickel and brass so far. Why what is the tone like with bronze???? Sounds like a brilliant idea.


Strix: You could always use paypal :yawinkle: :yawinkle: :supz:

[Turumti]

Im workin on the Bronze and also trying out different kinds of brass. It will take me a while to get this experiment done, as Im busy with my university work as well these days.

[Ben C]

I have sourced a place that supplies 1mm bronze sheeting and I am buying some tomorrow and hopefully I'll be trying it out this week. It will be interesting to compare notes.

[Turumti]

How much does the bronze cost you? Here its 4.5 times the price of brass.

Also do you pound the halves into shape or just press them?

[Ben C]

The price I have no idea just yet but will find out late to day.......all aspects of my bell making is by hand and hand tools. I use a dremel (small electric sander) but that is it, the process is all hand to eye coordination and paitience. It takes me about 2 hours??? How long do you take Salman?

[Ben C]

Have a look at this link Salman.

http://www.kompass.com/kinl/static/index_kise.php?_Langrech=en&_Lang=en&_KProv=directory&_Keyword=Sheet+metal&_Choix=PS&_Zone=GB

[Turumti]

Not very long now, bcos I have now employed a man with more stable hands than mine to make them for me!!!

Having said that, we dont make one pair at at time, we make our in batches of a few dozen, which takes at least a full day. Its very time consuming work, and contrary to popular belief, there is not much money to be made off this trade. It's more a labour of love than anything else.

[Ben C]

When I charge it works out a £5 an hour...about the same as a McDonalds employee....:oops: :cool:

[MickeyDredd]

When I charge it works out a £5 an hour...about the same as a McDonalds employee....:oops: :cool:

Do you get a nice uniform too? :lol:

[OutFlying]

When I charge it works out a £5 an hour...about the same as a McDonalds employee....:oops: :cool:

less materials and power etc - your illegally working Ben. :oops:

[Ben C]

Maybe I should go into tailsheaths :lol: :supz:

[OutFlying]

Hands off :lol: now moved on to different stuff ;)

Jim

[Ben C]

I have seen your work first hand: Can't improve on that mate......but will it be bowperches or even BOP next????????

[OutFlying]

no, but your getting warmer ;)

Jim.

[Fawkes]

Just like to let everyone know I got a pair of Ben's bells in the mail this morning for my passage RT in the fall. What can I say? They are a work of art Ben! Beautiful to look at and a beautiful tone! Keep up the good work!

Looking forward to those kessie bells whenever you get the chance :D

[HawkMan69UK]

ben pm me your paypal address mate:rolleyes: :lol:

[Ben C]

Keep an eye on the joint of the two halves especially on the Merlin bells. There seems to be a weak point (but only from the same batch) where I have sanded down so they are really flush. As a result not enough solder is going into the joint and they have come apart. It is an easy thing to fix, but pretty **** poor on my behalf, however I did give them all a thorough testing.

[Hacker]

Ben,
i have just recieved my bells m8 and i must say you should take a bow!
They are excellent quality and tone.
I think the Nickel and brass have a higher tone than the Nickel and Copper.
1 pair will go on my Female Perexsaker and the others on my Male GyrxSaker.
I will post a pic when they are fitted.
pm me payment details Ben.
Again well done:supz: :supz: :supz:

[Moses]

bloody hell ben, hats off to u mate friend, that is awesome


well done ben for learning the art of bell making mate , well done, cheers to hacker and mickey guiding me here i didnt even know aboot it'


mate how much do they cost mate


cheers

[Hacker]

Mine were a tenner a pair Moses, blo**y cheap m8.:supz:

[Moses]

Mine were a tenner a pair Moses, blo**y cheap m8.:supz:


lol excellent i shall have 3 pairs then :D

gimme gimme ben mate woohooo , ****ing cool :D

thanks alot hacker mate, i appreciate that bud :)


but will the tail one be a lil bigger or will the ones for the legs do

cheers