Best Glove?

[Murph]

I want a new glove as mine is rubbish - ebay job! its ok to be honest but i have asked my loving wife for one for my birthday! I was hoping you lot might be able to argue out which is the best glove! I have a fRT so will need to be be tough! Im sure this has been discussed before but not specific to red tail.

Any suggestions welcome!
:toimonst:

[Harris]

For a RT, i would get one that goes all the way up the arm, over the shoulder and covers the face completely :lol: :lol:

[GoodFooter]

I have a ben long glove ( from before his relaunch) and the fit couldnt be better.... must be over 15 yrs and has seen better days. I would recommend this for fit and still use it !!. also have a martin jones .... fit isnt so good but the leather quality is A1. This must be 10 yrs old and still going strong it has a 'd' ring but is very dangling I have often been tempted to remove it. Both are double thickness & buckskin ...flexible but very claw resistant..... gloves are a personal thing shame you could have got one at the falconers fair then you could have tried them on. May be worth sending an outline of your hand to the chosen maker to get thet bespoke fit,

I tried to make a few which were fun to make but not up to professional standard and the leather etc cost close to £20 per glove....wont be in a rush to do that again!!!!

[Sparrow Hawker]

Martin Jones gloves are hard to beat IMHO, very well made and will last an age if looked after. I'm sure they'll be able to sort you out with a female redtail proof glove:lol:

http://www.falcon-uk.com/gloves.htm

All The Best,

SH

[TheZuffler]

Julians gloves (falconers emporium) are spot on. PM him on here or visit his website.:supz:

http://www.falconersemporium.co.uk/

[Murph]

Ive been told also that http://www.falconryoriginals.co.uk

are great too! you send a trancing of your hand and its made to measure!!

Anyone had one?

Murph

[Shaun Byrne]

Wouldn't use anything but Falconcrest personally. Very supple, great fit and tough enough for any hawk.

[StormRider]

Give John a call at Yarak Falconry. He is just starting a new glove and it is top class.
STU

[Blaze]

Wouldn't use anything but Falconcrest personally. Very supple, great fit and tough enough for any hawk.

Got one of these at th FF fair!....like you say good all round glove :wink:

[Wilfred]

Wouldn't use anything but Falconcrest personally. Very supple, great fit and tough enough for any hawk.


Falconcrest is indeed considered to be a very good quality glove. But....i myself would not get it anymore. I did buy one and it is just that the thickness of the leather dissapointed me. As being too thick. Something that might be very ok with a goshawk, but i just do not like it for falcons. For them I would prefer any other glove i have from less thick leather.

[Murph]

Ive had a look at Bens gloves and i like the stye, has anyone got bens im thinking the Khan style for FRT!
:supz:

[TheZuffler]

Ive had a look at Bens gloves and i like the stye, has anyone got bens im thinking the Khan style for FRT!
:supz:

I have a 'nimrod' from Ben Long, but my preference now is with the gloves from FalconersEmporium. Just my humble opinion.

[Murph]

I just dont like the look of them to be honsest! They might be great but i dont like the syle!

[Craigy Boy]

ive got a khan ben long glove for my mrt and i cant fault it well worth the money

[Hells99]

I swear by my Falcon Crest double thickness elkhide glove, beautifully supple and soft even after being in the washing machine :supz:

[GoodFooter]

I swear by my Falcon Crest double thickness elkhide glove, beautifully supple and soft even after being in the washing machine :supz:
are they the green ones with the smooth leather trim.....saw loads of people carrying them at the falconers fair a couple of yrs back??? seemed popular

[PeregrinesUK]

Personally i like Doug Pineo equipment his gloves are excellent along with everything else he makes.. Other than Pineo, Martain Jones.. Ben Long.... or Falconry original all make excellent gloves dont buy cheap buy the best you can.. Mike

[Matthew Patching]

Ive had a look at Bens gloves and i like the stye, has anyone got bens im thinking the Khan style for FRT!
:supz:

Dont bother they fall apart, granted we handle more birds than most on a daily basis but I had a whitbacked vulture bite right through one and our eagle owls just puncture them, even the small gloves that he makes get recked by our barnowls in about 6 months.

Buy somthing that has been hand stitched then you wont get a nasty talon trought the seam

[Ned]

Personally i like Doug Pineo equipment his gloves are excellent along with everything else he makes.. Other than Pineo, Martain Jones.. Ben Long.... or Falconry original all make excellent gloves dont buy cheap buy the best you can.. Mike
Doug Pineo best on market,bar none.

[Hells99]

are they the green ones with the smooth leather trim.....saw loads of people carrying them at the falconers fair a couple of yrs back??? seemed popular
Yes, they're excellent gloves imo. Helen

[Beaujest]

Ive been told also that http://www.falconryoriginals.co.uk

are great too! you send a trancing of your hand and its made to measure!!

Anyone had one?

Murph
I have a Falconry Originals Yarak glove,and wouldn't swap it for the world.Soft,strong( sounds like a bog roll ad ) looks good and takes abuse.:supz: :supz:

[Jackson]

i like the falcon crest gloves - realy comfy!!! and protective!! plus theyre not to birght - mines a dark green colour so they look smart and country-like! unlike the bright orange and yellow ones i saw at the fair :vom:
my friend had a ben longs one and after 6 months it just fell apart:!:

[Peril]

I want a new glove as mine is rubbish - ebay job!

Talking of ebay jobs, I've seen what looks to be a good seller in the UAE.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Jamaicensis-Falconry-Equipment

Have a look, let me know what you think.
Some pricey gloves. Maybe this is what you are looking for?

[Falconry Equipment International]

Yes, they're excellent gloves imo. Helen
Hmm most of the green gloves are cheap chinese/ pakistani/ indian/ eurasian copies/imports of our gloves, If they have strong cast brass dees they are ours ( we sell to the trade too) if they ahve pressed dees that can be 'pulled' apart they are not ! HTH

[Murph]

ive got a khan ben long glove for my mrt and i cant fault it well worth the money

Sounds good to me :supz: Thanks people ive decided im going to go with Bens i think! Anyway wifes paying! Thanks for all the replies good thread now if any nebies what to know what peple like to use they can look here!

Regards

Murph

[ChrisRobbo]

My ben long khan glove is very good!
The falconers emporium gloves are very good also remember you get what you pay for!

[Murph]

Your not wrong! My glove ive got is ok but i realy want a strong long lasting one!

Murph:toimonst:

[Falconry Equipment International]

Sounds good to me :supz: Thanks people ive decided im going to go with Bens i think! Anyway wifes paying! Thanks for all the replies good thread now if any nebies what to know what peple like to use they can look here!

Regards

Murph
Murph if she is paying go for one of my exclusive best buckskin gloves....:shock: :lol: very very expensive but as others have said you get what you pay for will last years if looked after properly HTH

[HawkMan69UK]

julian have you ordered my buckskin for my american glove yet:D

[Tim Laycock]

What I would like to know is why so many suppliers sell "double overlayed" gloves that have single thickness fourchets :rolleyes: (Between the fingers)

The most vulnerable points on a glove are these parts and they are left single thickness :roll:

I like the overlayed Doug Pineo "Pendleton gloves" .....No fourchets :supz:
(Im currently prefecting a pattern)

Also, as has been pointed out by another Goshawker...You dont look like Robin Hood when wearing one :supz:

[Falconry Equipment International]

julian have you ordered my buckskin for my american glove yet:D
Yes Gary got a ot on order from Canada ( look out for pm in next 24 hours:wink: ) HTH

[Falconry Equipment International]

What I would like to know is why so many suppliers sell "double overlayed" gloves that have single thickness fourchets :rolleyes: (Between the fingers)

The most vulnerable points on a glove are these parts and they are left single thickness :roll:

Yes quite true Tim, I can always make gloves with a double fourchette on 1st & 2nd finger,however if the leather is left full thickness( and not skived / thinned out) it makes the glove really difficult to bend the fingers. I have to say with a premium buckskin( not buck tanned cow hide, normal deer skin, Nubuck( split cow hide) or even top grain cowhide gloves) Really having an overlay for most Accips & certainly all Buteos ( with exception of TR's and possibly Female Gosses( although I used a single thickness glove for years without any probs!) quite frankly is overdoing it somewhat . It is a bit like people phone me up demanding 1- 2 mm thick kangaroo jesses/ jesse leather for harrises etc . Until the late 90's kangaroo was as rare as hen's teeth and there fore we used to use calf skin/ pig skin etc which was perfectly adequate except for teh fact that we had to use approx 1 ~ 1.5 mm leather now folk require the same from jesses.( again i prefer to use as light a quality leather and as little of it on my falcons if that all makes sense) HTH

[Tim Laycock]

Makes perfect sense Julian.
I have been experimenting with glove leathers for a while now.
What I found odd in the beginning was that it is harder to push a needle through two pieces of thinned down leather than one original as tanned piece of the same stuff, even thought the thickness of the two pieces is less than the thickness of the original :rolleyes:

I suppose its because there are two dense layers as opposed to one dense layer and a load of "chaff" if that makes sense :lol:

[Falconry Equipment International]

Makes perfect sense Julian.
I have been experimenting with glove leathers for a while now.
What I found odd in the beginning was that it is harder to push a needle through two pieces of thinned down leather than one original as tanned piece of the same stuff, even thought the thickness of the two pieces is less than the thickness of the original :rolleyes:

I suppose its because there are two dense layers as opposed to one dense layer and a load of "chaff" if that makes sense :lol: as they say in the Churchill advert ... OH Yes! :rolleyes: :wink:

[Afshimo]

For FRT go for the orange gloves from the czec. rep. - ace! Subtle enough but if they do decide to punch - you got nothing to worry about!

I liked Ben long gloves, but yeah - they did fall apart. Most of the newer ones arnt made in this country apparently and do fall apart quickly if youre unlucky. My D ring came off within a week.

Martin jones are ace :supz: - yeah they're bright but easy for the birds to see. Comfy, smart, looks nice and easy to clean! Dunk em in warm water, stick on em your hand for a few minsstrait away they every couple mins back on hand and move about and they soon become good as new. Theyre so good i got the full set nearly - from single to eagle overlay. Aint got the money for the eagle lol :(

I reserve Julian's gloves till i can get hold of one and they it out. They sound good, quite comfy the ones I did try on.

[GDN]

I am sure someone has said it before but i have found Ben Long gloves good. They are hard wearing and reliable. I would always recommend them.

[Chris S]

falconcrest cant beat them very well made last for years,at the end of the day if a female red wants to there aint much that will stop her talons going through.

[Rocky]

Falconry Originals glove Yarak deluxe best glove out you won't find one better,look after it and you'll have it a long time.
I've had redtails,gosses,harris's and ferrugies on mine and its still going strong.

[Murph]

I'm having a hard time making a decision on this one! its looking like Ben's or originals.

Might have to settle for what i get now, as my boiler (not the wife!) packed up yesterday! Wife has bent door back on the car damaging wing (high winds the other day) and the other car says it needs an inspection and is stalling so no luck at the moment! :toimonst:

Murph :supz:

[Tim Laycock]

http://www.pineofalconry.com/product_listing.php?id=7

[Wilfred]

I myself did order some 2-finger glove from the following site today:

www.americanfalconer.com

I think his normal 5 finger gauntlets also look great. The 2 finger..well..looks bit thin maybe..but i think it might be a great one in fact. But have to wait to receive it now first before i could tell.

[Tim Laycock]

Good gloves for exactly the same reasons as the "pendleton"

[Wilfred]

Good gloves for exactly the same reasons as the "pendleton"


sorry..i have to look through this tread again then maybe..but what are the reasons why this gloves I mentioned (i suppose you mean them) are good gloves just like the "pendleton"??

fact is the gloves at americanfalconer just look similar to a glove I already have. Nice thin. My absolute favourite glove.

[Cyclone]

sorry..i have to look through this tread again then maybe..but what are the reasons why this gloves I mentioned (i suppose you mean them) are good gloves just like the "pendleton"?? .
the pendleton is doug pineos glove
cyclone
p.s does anyone know the coversion from $30 to the equivalent in £££'s?
cheers

[OutFlying]

Not much, about £16.50.

I used them for the last 3 seasons for the male gos and spar - their very good, nice and lightweight providing a good fit without being sweaty, now use the double thickness gauntlet for the female gos - she went straight through the pendleton :oops:

Jim.

[Tim Laycock]

she went straight through the pendleton :oops:


And the fingernail :lol: :lol: :lol:

[OutFlying]

oh yes :rolleyes: , it was an eye watering moment - not recommended with a female combined with razor sharp talons.

I know of others who fly a female gos with the pendleton with no problem, but i wouldn't again.

Jim.

[MoltenMetal]

what are the opinions on the pen with a fem red:?: i think it is asking for pain

[OutFlying]

too thin for a female redtail.

[MoltenMetal]

that what i thought but a gos has same if not more force

[Cyclone]

ok thanks outflying, it is going to be for a female gyr/saker??
cheers cyclone

[Tim Laycock]

that what i thought but a gos has same if not more force

Gos has slighlty less if not the same force of grip but is more geared to pierceing whereas a Red has feet more inclined to crushing while piercing to a lesser degree if that makes sense.

Either way the destination is painville :twisted: :lol:

Im sure the double thickness version would be fine for a Red

[Altai]

Karen rose gloves.
Not flashy, but very good quality buckskin gloves.

[Murph]

Ive decided to go with Martin Jones in the end but thanks for all the suggestions!

Thanks again people!:supz:

[Ermoro]

What do you think of the Northwoods Falconry gloves like the Tahoma?

http://www.northwoodsfalconry.com/pics/itemthumbs/DSC01963.JPG

Available in Elk or Kangaroo.

[Red-Devil]

Julians gloves (falconers emporium) are spot on. PM him on here or visit his website.:supz:

http://www.falconersemporium.co.uk/
then why was you recently bidding on a ben long glove on e bay not so long ago ?

[Red-Devil]

What do you think of the Northwoods Falconry gloves like the Tahoma?

http://www.northwoodsfalconry.com/pics/itemthumbs/DSC01963.JPG

Available in Elk or Kangaroo.
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[Tim Laycock]

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Beat me to it, My sentiment entirely :!:

[Murph]

I went with Martin Jones in the end:supz:

[Tim Laycock]

The colour will fade soon enough :lol: :yawinkle: