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Jackson
17-06-2006, 08:32 PM
can you defrost chicks in a fridge??

if so how long?

HawkMan69UK
17-06-2006, 08:36 PM
overnight ....or put them in in the morning there ready by about 4ish fridge on number 1

Jackson
17-06-2006, 08:37 PM
overnight ....or put them in in the morning there ready by about 4ish fridge on number 1

cheers!!! thats fantastic!! just got my mhh home and thought id check in case i had no food but frozen for him 2mura :rolleyes:

cheers!!

Ben C
17-06-2006, 08:44 PM
How ya feeling????

GregMik
17-06-2006, 08:45 PM
Sarah,
Just defrost them in a bowl of Hot water....Takes about 10 minutes. If you don't soak them overnight you will not loose any nutrients to the water as the skin is still on.

Greg

Jackson
17-06-2006, 08:45 PM
How ya feeling????

nervous lol!!! but he ok! screamed at dog few times!!! just worried bout the food so you might see a few food threads lol

Jackson
17-06-2006, 08:48 PM
Sarah,
Just defrost them in a bowl of Hot water....Takes about 10 minutes. If you don't soak them overnight you will not loose any nutrients to the water as the skin is still on.

Greg

so should i put them in hot water the night before?? or on the day i wnat to feed him??

never thought bout that so cheers!!!:supz:

Paddy1
17-06-2006, 08:50 PM
so should i put them in hot water the night before?? or on the day i wnat to feed him??

never thought bout that so cheers!!!:supz:

i think he meant about 10 - 15 min before you feed him

Jackson
17-06-2006, 08:52 PM
i think he meant about 10 - 15 min before you feed him

kool!! just thought id check!! im a bag of nerves so it may seem i get a bit "dumb" and start asking stupid questions!

GregMik
17-06-2006, 08:53 PM
Takes 10 minutes. We are not talkin boiling water here either, just your normal hot tap water. If you want to do it over night put them in cold water inside a ziplock bag so the nutrients don't soak out. I always get my food wet to give the bird more water, better safe than sorry.

Greg

OutFlying
17-06-2006, 08:53 PM
so should i put them in hot water the night before?? or on the day i wnat to feed him??

never thought bout that so cheers!!!:supz:

You have taken charge of a hawk but don't know how to feed it - pure class.

Jim.

Sean
17-06-2006, 08:54 PM
been told hot water can slighty cook them, room tempretaure water will defrost almost as fast

Matthew Patching
17-06-2006, 08:56 PM
Sarah,
Just defrost them in a bowl of Hot water....Takes about 10 minutes. If you don't soak them overnight you will not loose any nutrients to the water as the skin is still on.

Greg

Soak them in cold water, the hot water can increase bacterial load in the food.

Jackson
17-06-2006, 08:57 PM
You have taken charge of a hawk but don't know how to feed it - pure class.

Jim.


lol no i know how to feed him but never really looked into the hot water! everyone does it their own way - ive always seen/heard it done the night before!

p.s. i did say the dumb questions were coming lol

GregMik
17-06-2006, 08:59 PM
Soak them in cold water, the hot water can increase bacterial load in the food.

For 10 minutes? Are you kidding me? I don't want to start a row here in Sarahs thread so if you want to continue this, lets start another thread.

Greg

Paddy1
17-06-2006, 09:00 PM
lol no i know how to feed him but never really looked into the hot water! everyone does it their own way - ive always seen/heard it done the night before!

p.s. i did say the dumb questions were coming lol


surly the night before in the fridge to prevent bacteria growing is the best way then leave half hour or so to get to room temp so to take the chill of the food then feed

OutFlying
17-06-2006, 09:00 PM
Prepare the food in time, let it defrost slowly. If you place the chicks in the fridge the day before you'll be ok. Biggar food may take 48 hours.

Jim.

Jackson
17-06-2006, 09:01 PM
surly the night before in the fridge to prevent bacteria growing is the best way then leave half hour or so to get to room temp so to take the chill of the food then feed

my thoughts exactly but then i thought what if ive made that up soe how its completely wrong!! lol

oh no hot Vs. Cold water

see jim (outflying) everyone does it their own way :rolleyes: cheers for the advice!!! im trying to keep learning! learnt loads over the 2 1/2 years but doesnt mean im an expert lol!!

OutFlying
17-06-2006, 09:09 PM
Sarah,
If you were cooking food for yourself from frozen would you stick it in hot water to defrost ?

If you have learnt correctly and have been shown, surely food preparation is high on the lists of must knows ?


Jim.

Dave G
17-06-2006, 09:12 PM
Sarah,
If you were cooking food for yourself from frozen would you stick it in hot water ?

If you have learnt correctly and have been shown, surely food preparation is high on the lists of must knows ?


Jim.
:supz: warm chicken nahhhh you must be yoking lol

GaryPCO
17-06-2006, 09:19 PM
Defrosting over night is fine so is cold water so is hot water,as greg said he didnt mean boiling or overly hot water just hot enough to defrost em quickly,were not talking blanching flesh here just defrosting i do it all the time i come home from work grab a few chicks warm water and within ten fifteen minuites im out with the birds not only that in warm or close weather a wet chick will carry more moisture maybe moisture a bird might need through out the course of the day sorry guys i cant see a problem.!!!!!!:wink:

HawkMan69UK
17-06-2006, 09:28 PM
fridge overnight /daytime thaws out evenly soak in water and supplements if need be ...fresh thawed out food with moisture perfect... quail and rat tend to need a liitle longe..r rabbit over 24 hours same phesant duck...

Newton Newguy
17-06-2006, 10:10 PM
excuse me ! it's saturday night he's just got a new bird, shouldn't he be off down the pub doing a bit of manning and treat him to a kebab on the way home,hold the jalapinoes !!!!!!8-)

I got told to defrost overnight in the fridge,but in weather like we are having now just prior to feeding dip them in water and remove excess to give additional fluids. If he doesn't want it don't leave it around for any time in weather like this ,absolute breeding heaven for bacteria.

Brian

Ben C
17-06-2006, 10:15 PM
You could also use a magnifying glass but only on hot days.......be careful to spread the heat otherwise you may have burn holes in you chick.

Ben C
17-06-2006, 10:17 PM
You could also swing it vigourously on a piece of twine until it hits max warp speed and begins to warm up sufficiently to feed to your hawk.

Paddy1
17-06-2006, 10:18 PM
You could also swing it vigourously on a piece of twine until it hits max warp speed and begins to warm up sufficiently to feed to your hawk.


ben you been on the tipple tonight mate lol

GregMik
17-06-2006, 10:58 PM
excuse me ! it's saturday night he's just got a new bird, shouldn't he be off down the pub doing a bit of manning and treat him to a kebab on the way home,hold the jalapinoes !!!!!!8-)

I got told to defrost overnight in the fridge,but in weather like we are having now just prior to feeding dip them in water and remove excess to give additional fluids. If he doesn't want it don't leave it around for any time in weather like this ,absolute breeding heaven for bacteria.

Brian

NN,
Sarah is about 17. She can't go to the pub.

Sorry if I am wrong Sarah

Greg

Jackson
18-06-2006, 09:37 AM
NN,
Sarah is about 17. She can't go to the pub.

Sorry if I am wrong Sarah

Greg


lol to right and im a girl :rolleyes:

cheers for the advice guys! i had a fair idea how to defrost the food but wnated to have as many views/opinions/ideas a s possible if i got stuck!

i stuck them in the fridge over night cos mum hates them being out :rolleyes:
they are fine - just needed to know that they wouldnt still be frozen the next day!!

cheers guys!!

BlackHawke
18-06-2006, 09:53 AM
personally wouldnt worry to much about bacteria theres loads in the gut of a chick. plus when there hunting they pick it all up anyhows. ive taken jade of frozen quarry in winter that shes been pecking at dont hurt them. so ive been told!

if your caught short bowl of hot tap water. if your not in a rush in a bag over night then in the fridge the next morn.

one other thing is if it is this years bird you prob wont be feeding it for a few days anyhow, til it loses a bit of weight n settles

NorthenEnglandHawker
22-06-2006, 10:51 AM
if ur getting food out for the next day place 2 sheets of newspaper on a worksurface and place the chicks on them and place 2 sheets of newspaper on top and they will defrost perfectly and no loss of nutrients like putting in water

Paddy1
22-06-2006, 10:54 AM
if ur getting food out for the next day place 2 sheets of newspaper on a worksurface and place the chicks on them and place 2 sheets of newspaper on top and they will defrost perfectly and no loss of nutrients like putting in water


what about the ink coming of the news paper ?

DeathFromAbove
22-06-2006, 11:04 AM
Personally i get the chicks/whatever, out the night before and put them in a tupperware type of container on kitchen paper towel to defrost overnight at room temp. If however I forget to or I was out on the **** the night before then I defrost them in hot tap water, done in no time but i leave em for about 1/2 hour. Obviously the bigger the food type the longer each method will take.

I remeber getting a phessy out the freezer with all feathers still on to defrost - left it in a container at room temp to defrost till the next day, when i got to it it was still bloody solidly frozen, feather's are really good insulators!! lol

NorthenEnglandHawker
22-06-2006, 11:09 AM
what about the ink coming of the news paper ?

dunt happen m8 or never has to me bein doin it 4 years now

Fires59
22-06-2006, 04:23 PM
Just get mine out the day before and leave in the fridge and they soon defrost by the next day.

buzzbee
22-06-2006, 04:46 PM
Yeah either keep in a fridge( were starting to do this soon) or defrost them about 15mins to be sure.

Nige
22-06-2006, 05:30 PM
I would never defrost in hot water. Put them in a bowl of cold water and they are ready in an hour or so or better still put them in the fridge the night before and they will be ready the next day. Allways get out an extra one you never know when you may need it.

Harris
22-06-2006, 05:34 PM
Allways get out an extra one you never know when you may need it.

Thats good advice, I allways defrost 1 extra just in case, I need it to coax him back for some reason, say he's spooked and taken roost up a tree.

Jackson
22-06-2006, 06:38 PM
im putting mine in the fridge the night before and theyre defrostign fine! its hassle free - preparing water et

all i do is grap a few chicks chuck them in the tupperware box in the fridge and the next day theyre fine - ive also found theyre not too soggy which is what i found when they were just left out over night!

ACCIPITER-GENTILIS
22-06-2006, 06:41 PM
im putting mine in the freezer the night before and theyre defrostign fine!

lol fridge u mean lol

Jackson
22-06-2006, 06:43 PM
lol fridge u mean lol

lol no no the freezer lol yea i mean the fridge - hey they both start with fr.

Hacker
22-06-2006, 08:22 PM
Once the nerves settle you will get into a daily routine no problem.
I use approx 50 docs a day, so when i feed in the morning i always get the next days food out of the freezer and place in a box to defrost.
That way you will not get caught out after a hard night.
All the best with your bird and keep us posted.:-)

Paddy1
22-06-2006, 08:45 PM
Once the nerves settle you will get into a daily routine no problem.
I use approx 50 docs a day, so when i feed in the morning i always get the next days food out of the freezer and place in a box to defrost.
That way you will not get caught out after a hard night.
All the best with your bird and keep us posted.:-)


mate what you feedin the 5000 lol

Hacker
22-06-2006, 08:53 PM
mate what you feedin the 5000 lol
No m8, a couple of non falconry HH`s and a few Falconry birds depending whether they catch on the day or not.:lol:

GoneHawking
23-06-2006, 08:32 AM
You have taken charge of a hawk but don't know how to feed it - pure class.

Jim.

PMSL

Another fine falconer in the making...............at least he didn't say can I feed them frozen..

Mark

GoneHawking
23-06-2006, 08:35 AM
I use a traditional game larder with fine mesh on the door to stop the flies, works fine for me, my girlfriend bought me two of tem, now that can't be bad.

Mark

Jackson
23-06-2006, 08:35 AM
PMSL

Another fine falconer in the making...............at least he didn't say can I feed them frozen..

Mark

im a she lol!! it as a general questiona nd now i know what the newbies feel when they get slated :rolleyes: i know enough to keep a bop and will keep learning (you never stop) it was a general question to help me and the hh - i knew what to do but any other helps and hints were grately recieved!
ive got loads of people around me and 2 1/2 years of exerperiance behind me!

and whats wrong with feeding them food frozen?? especailly on a hot day?? JOKE!!!

GoneHawking
23-06-2006, 08:48 AM
im a she lol!! it as a general questiona nd now i know what the newbies feel when they get slated :rolleyes: i know enough to keep a bop and will keep learning (you never stop) it was a general question to help me and the hh - i knew what to do but any other helps and hints were grately recieved!
ive got loads of people around me and 2 1/2 years of exerperiance behind me!

and whats wrong with feeding them food frozen?? especailly on a hot day?? JOKE!!!

Whooops sorry about the gender mishap......

nothing wrong with feeding frozen on a hot day, my spar likes nothing less than a 99 with a flake in it....

been flying 16 years and still learning myself, your quite right you never stop, and there is never one hard and fast rule for everyone, there are lots of different methods that suit some but not others, you just have to find the mix that works for you and your bird......good luck with him.

Mark

BarneyAndMonty
27-06-2006, 09:41 PM
You have taken charge of a hawk but don't know how to feed it - pure class.

Jim.

No need for that, a simple question needing clarification not sarcasm. I'm sure it's been written on here about reading the threads before posting, might be worth it next time.

OutFlying
28-06-2006, 02:49 PM
Each to their own, BUT the hawk had been collected or was to be collected and no food prepared for it's arrival - even though it would most likely not need it.

Now to me that's a lack of basic knowledge (that's needed before even thinking of owning a hawk) and as such posted a reply.

If we all agreed it would be a boring site.

Jim.

Jackson
28-06-2006, 03:47 PM
Each to their own, BUT the hawk had been collected or was to be collected and no food prepared for it's arrival - even though it would most likely not need it.

Now to me that's a lack of basic knowledge (that's needed before even thinking of owning a hawk) and as such posted a reply.

If we all agreed it would be a boring site.

Jim.

i would agree if that was the case! but i had plenty of food prepared and knew i could defrost it if i left it our over night. but mum hates dead chicks and was wondering if there was a better way to defrost them without upseting her - id fought so hard to convince i didnt want a few chicks upsetting her!

OutFlying
28-06-2006, 03:57 PM
Slightly different wording to the original couple of posts and as such would have generated a different reply.

So I stand by my original post to your original postings.

Jim.

Jackson
28-06-2006, 03:59 PM
can you defrost chicks in a fridge??

if so how long?


my original post!

doesnt say i dont know how to defrost chicks its just a question if you can do it in the fridge.

OutFlying
28-06-2006, 04:01 PM
cheers!!! thats fantastic!! just got my mhh home and thought id check in case i had no food but frozen for him 2mura :rolleyes:

cheers!!

there's your second - that makes your original postings ("s" = plural).

Jim.

Jackson
28-06-2006, 04:04 PM
there's your second - that makes your original postings ("s" = plural).

Jim.

thats meant if mum suddnly turns round and says no chicks out over night!!!! then iw ould have had no food!

OutFlying
28-06-2006, 04:08 PM
Slightly different wording to the original couple of posts and as such would have generated a different reply.

So I stand by my original post to your original postings.

Jim.

Read above, end of story.

Jim.

Jackson
28-06-2006, 04:11 PM
ok wording wasnt great!

and i totally agree that no one should get a bird without knowing how to feed it!! but when its your first bop you get nervous and (I) start coming out with rubbish tha t makes me sound like one of those idiots that just goes out and but a bop with no preparation! i can assure you i am not like that and jackson is in safe hands!

OutFlying
28-06-2006, 04:12 PM
All the best Sarah ;)

Jim

Lurcer
29-06-2006, 02:32 PM
yeah you can but would be quicker to defrost in a shaded area away from the flies.... just as good???

AmateurAustringer
29-06-2006, 02:49 PM
yeah you can but would be quicker to defrost in a shaded area away from the flies.... just as good???

Here we go again.... :yawinkle:

Jackson
30-06-2006, 09:25 AM
yeah you can but would be quicker to defrost in a shaded area away from the flies.... just as good???

flies will find it anywhere!!!!!!!!!!! i swear by it!!!!!!!!! and then it will smell and my cat/dog will find it then my mum will find it and my shell go crazy and ill be saying byr byr jackson! fridge is brill no mess or complication just a simple from freezer to tuperware in fridge!!

Harris
30-06-2006, 09:32 AM
I use a Polystyrene Box about 15" square, it has 2 Gell freezer packs that go in the bottom. It is actually used by the medical services for transporting blood samples etc. I take the frozen food out of the freezer and pop them in there over night, I keep one of the gell packs in the freezer and swap them over every night. You could also use a freezer bag or box to keep them chilled and gently thaw them out overnight. It works a treat for me with no smell and no flies.

Onyx25
10-09-2006, 08:38 AM
Haven't read this whole thread but i normally leave food out overnight with food defrosted in water a couple of times a week to replacesome of the liquid lost in the freezing process. When im at work doing bird control I will take some food frozen which will be ready for the afternoon.

Brit-Gos
10-09-2006, 09:07 PM
Like Onxy25 not read the whole thread but just adding, try not to feed food that is cold to the touch. Bring it to room temp after it has defrosted in the fridge or put it in look warm water for a while.