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sparhawk
19-06-2006, 07:06 PM
Im new to falconry and was wondering what is the way used to take game that the bird has caught out of its talons when it comes back to you
IAmTheWeasel
19-06-2006, 07:54 PM
First thing is that they mosy often do not bring it back as they cannot carry it....and if they could carry it, many birds will fly away from you so they can eat it.....As for getting them off the quarry, that varies from one falconer to another in their methods. I personally use the lure to transfer the bird off the quarry.
sparhawk
19-06-2006, 08:20 PM
Thanks that has helped alot
Liam Hay
19-06-2006, 08:25 PM
Im new to falconry and was wondering what is the way used to take game that the bird has caught out of its talons when it comes back to you
I would ask nicely, if this does not work then offer a fair exchange, either with a garnished fist or lure!
Intek Hosting
19-06-2006, 08:27 PM
Okay first thing the bird is not going to come back to you once its caught something.
You will have to find the bird.
Depending on where in the season we are I do the following if I'm taking kills from the bird.
I carry a small hand towel in my hawking vest. (You never know when you'd need to hitch a lift) When prey is caught I approach the bird keeping a low profile so as not to tower over the bird. Move in and dispatch the quarry if its still alive.
I then give the bird a while to relax and calm down before I cover the prey with the towel. (regular hitchiker me :-))
Once the bird has calmed down and is not focused on the kill I offer her a piece of food on the glove at a distance so that she needs to let go of the kill to get to the food.
Once we got the hang of it she would jump up to the fist once she had calmed down and forgotten about the kill. Not sure how you do it with other birds but my Harris got the idea after about 6 kills.
I think the big thing is not to get into a battle with the bird over the kill. Just take her mind off it and then offer her a worthwhile alternative so she doesnt feel cheated.
Intek Hosting
19-06-2006, 08:31 PM
I would ask nicely,
Damb, that's what I've been doing wrong all this time, does it work when they are sat in trees as well??
Liam Hay
19-06-2006, 08:33 PM
Damb, that's what I've been doing wrong all this time, does it work when they are sat in trees as well??
It sure does pmsl
BrianM
19-06-2006, 08:36 PM
It sure does pmsl
mmm it doesnt work at all , ive been asking my "bird" for something a lot recently but it usually takes an italian meal and a bottle of white wine for me to get it
Harris
19-06-2006, 08:37 PM
The other option used with a hawk, is the Throw away, after approaching and dispatching as Jessica explained, put the gloved hand over the kill and throw a piece of food away a few feet from the bird, dont throw it over the bird as this means your bare hand is passing close to the bird, and those feet are quick!! the bird should jump off the kill to retrieve the food thrown. You can then bag the kill, and offer a feed on the glove for the bird to jump to.
MattSpar
19-06-2006, 09:10 PM
Personally, I make my wife tear through brambles, wade rivers, and on occasion, climb trees, whilst I watch from the safety of my zimmer frame.
Harris
19-06-2006, 09:14 PM
Personally, I make my wife tear through brambles, wade rivers, and on occasion, climb trees, whilst I watch from the safety of my zimmer frame.
You never lost that spark with women Matt :lol: :lol:
MattSpar
19-06-2006, 09:28 PM
You never lost that spark with women Matt :lol: :lol:
Remember one simple phrase. "But you're so much better at this than me Dear."
Intek Hosting
19-06-2006, 09:56 PM
It sure does pmsl
Youre a lier and should be ashamed of yourself for that!!!
Some newby is going to read that and think, Hmmm I'll try that next time a young bird grabs my naked hand.
I've seen your birds at fat weight and I bet no amount of pleasantries and kind words will make a bit of difference when they have hold of a kill.
I'll second what Harris has said, until you get to know the bird it may be safer to throw the initial piece of food a short way off as picking the bird up to the glove means you have to use the right hand to hold down the towel to stop the bird holding on and taking the kill to the glove with the trailing foot.
Just avoid struggling with the bird to get the kill, the idea is to trade the bird not leave it feeling robbed :-)
BrianM
19-06-2006, 10:00 PM
Youre a lier and should be ashamed of yourself for that!!!
Some newby is going to read that and think, Hmmm I'll try that next time a young bird grabs my naked hand.
I've seen your birds at fat weight and I bet no amount of pleasantries and kind words will make a bit of difference when they have hold of a kill.
I'll second what Harris has said, until you get to know the bird it may be safer to throw the initial piece of food a short way off as picking the bird up to the glove means you have to use the right hand to hold down the towel to stop the bird holding on and taking the kill to the glove with the trailing foot.
Just avoid struggling with the bird to get the kill, the idea is to trade the bird not leave it feeling robbed :-)
, i am not 100% but maybe just maybe liam was joking
OutFlying
19-06-2006, 10:06 PM
garnished fist - means food on the glove not a barehand :lol:
Intek Hosting
19-06-2006, 10:07 PM
, i am not 100% but maybe just maybe liam was joking
No he's a scheming skunk who's got an idea for a new thread, "My bird grabbed me while I was trying to coerce her off a kill, nicely" :-)
BrianM
19-06-2006, 10:08 PM
No he's a scheming skunk who's got an idea for a new thread, "My bird grabbed me while I was trying to coerce her off a kill, nicely" :-)
ahh you know him well then .. lol
IAmTheWeasel
20-06-2006, 02:03 PM
Remember one simple phrase. "But you're so much better at this than me Dear."
PMSL!!!!!
Gary F
20-06-2006, 02:24 PM
i agree with jessica,i use a towel if wearing my hawking vest,or i put my hawking bag over the kill,then temp him off,and slip game in bag on the sly,
i normally cut a leg off the rabbit,while hes on the head and temp him off with that,i can also put one mews jessie on and swivel,leash while hes eating, from behind::just in case he has had his fill and flys to nearest tree,
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