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Dick The Brick
04-07-2006, 05:29 PM
hi all
what is the most common mistake a beginer make with his frist bird in my case a male hh?
thanks
Harris
04-07-2006, 05:32 PM
hi all
what is the most common mistake a beginer make with his frist bird in my case a male hh?
thanks
probably weight control, either flying too high or too low.
GoodFooter
04-07-2006, 05:34 PM
not using a loop leash ( better still button loop leash);)
Harris
04-07-2006, 05:35 PM
Actualy, its probably getting a bird before they are ready for it!
Dick The Brick
04-07-2006, 05:35 PM
not using a loop leash ( better still button loop leash);)
what a loop leash or a button loop
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Graham Stuart
04-07-2006, 05:37 PM
probably weight control, either flying too high or too low.
MUST AGREE
PROB thinking they know it all and flying free before they are ready and off flies thier first HH into a tree not to return...
GoodFooter
04-07-2006, 05:39 PM
what a loop leash or a button loop
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loop leash....is leash with loop rather than button.
button loop is leash with button at one end loop at the other.
Button loop if attached by nick fox method ( understanding BOP) will probably eliminate all hang ups through tethering and would save countless birds from alot of stress and a fair few from broken legs. IMHO
Dick The Brick
04-07-2006, 05:41 PM
loop leash....is leash with loop rather than button.
button loop is leash with button at one end loop at the other.
Button loop if attached by nick fox method ( understanding BOP) will probably eliminate all hang ups through tethering and would save countless birds from alot of stress and a fair few from broken legs. IMHO
thanks for that
Harrisii
04-07-2006, 05:47 PM
joining a forum and posting replies on subjects they know nothing about.
pmsl.
just joking there folks.
most common mistake made by beginners,mmmmmmm???
tricky as there are a few which are commonly made.
not progressing with the training fast enough.
some get a bird first then learn second. thats the worst mistake any beginer will ever make.
Adam Barrett
04-07-2006, 05:49 PM
MUST AGREE
PROB thinking they know it all and flying free before they are ready and off flies thier first HH into a tree not to return...
Id say the opposite in the case of a HH and leaving the bird on a creance for to long, taking to long to get out in tho the field killing is the worst mistake in my opinion;) :supz:
Adam
Harris
04-07-2006, 05:49 PM
joining a forum and posting replies on subjects they know nothing about.
pmsl.
just joking there folks.
most common mistake made by beginners,mmmmmmm???
tricky as there are a few which are commonly made.
not progressing with the training fast enough.
some get a bird first then learn second. thats the worst mistake any beginer will ever make.
Or commenting on the quality of someones display!! :yawinkle:
Dick The Brick
04-07-2006, 05:50 PM
[QUOTE=Harrisii]joining a forum and posting replies on subjects they know nothing about.
pmsl.
just joking there folks.
most common mistake made by beginners,mmmmmmm???
tricky as there are a few which are commonly made.
not progressing with the training fast enough.
some get a bird first then learn second. thats the worst mistake any beginer will ever make. THIS IS ME
Harrisii
04-07-2006, 05:50 PM
Or commenting on the quality of someones display!! :yawinkle:
absolutely. how could i even miss that. lol.
dont have an opinion, that will keep you right.
GoodFooter
04-07-2006, 06:01 PM
joining a forum and posting replies on subjects they know nothing about???
Quality reply and dont believe you were joking for 1 minute
Paddy1
04-07-2006, 06:04 PM
dont have an opinion, that will keep you right.[/QUOTE]
i can realte to that mate :evil:
Falcon
04-07-2006, 06:13 PM
Getting a bird that they fancy rather than thinking about the land they are going to be hawking on and what species of bird it lends itself to and what quarry is available.
North East Harris Hawker
04-07-2006, 06:14 PM
i recon its allowing a bird to escape with swivel and leash attached
BuzzBee
04-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Weight and not knowing the falconers knot and the double.
Harris
04-07-2006, 06:18 PM
Getting Married before taking up Falconry :rolleyes:
HawkMan69UK
04-07-2006, 06:22 PM
Getting a bird that they fancy rather than thinking about the land they are going to be hawking on and what species of bird it lends itself to and what quarry is available. sarah you should always get the bird you fancy :lol: ;)
Harrisii
04-07-2006, 06:58 PM
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some get a bird first then learn second. thats the worst mistake any beginer will ever make.
[QUOTE=dick the brick THIS IS ME
have you bought a bird DTB and now are wondering what to do???
sorry if ive misread this post.
Dagash
04-07-2006, 07:02 PM
probably the wrong type of bird for the wrong type of quarry or land as in the uk ... or the seller might lie and give you a very poor bird saying that its excelent
Cyclone
04-07-2006, 07:05 PM
feeding a bird on the glove for to long an it then replaces you as its parental figure......
cyclone
Harrisii
04-07-2006, 07:28 PM
some get a bird first then learn second. thats the worst mistake any beginer will ever make.
i think we have all missed the point here guys.
i think the thread starter DTB has gotten himself a bird without prior knowledge.
what can be worse than that?? nothing really.
AngelJakki
04-07-2006, 07:37 PM
i think we have all missed the point here guys.
i think the thread starter DTB has gotten himself a bird without prior knowledge.
what can be worse than that?? nothing really.
He got given the bird when the owner died or at least thats what he said before and he wanted help with it.
Harrisii
04-07-2006, 07:40 PM
He got given the bird when the owner died or at least thats what he said before and he wanted help with it.
thanks AJ, ive just read over the old thread cheers.
SORRY DTB.
I understand this now.
if there is something specific mate then just ask away.
you need all the help you can get mate by all accounts.
best wishes. H.
Dick The Brick
04-07-2006, 08:00 PM
thanks AJ, ive just read over the old thread cheers.
SORRY DTB.
I understand this now.
if there is something specific mate then just ask away.
you need all the help you can get mate by all accounts.
best wishes. H.
thanks h
bird moulting at moment been told to trying to leave it alone as much as pos
feeding loads don't want to lose bird just for not asking the right Q
got a book [emma ford ]leaning a lot
someone has been pm as what to do which is very helpfull
i will be asking loads of silly Q
thanks for you help
dick
Harrisii
04-07-2006, 08:04 PM
thanks h
bird moulting at moment been told to trying to leave it alone as much as pos
feeding loads don't want to lose bird just for not asking the right Q
got a book [emma ford ]leaning a lot
someone has been pm as what to do which is very helpfull
i will be asking loads of silly Q
thanks for you help
dick
sorry about before, didnt know the situation.
get the knowledge into that head mate.
read as much as you can on the subject mate.
ask as many questions as poss mate.
hope it goes well for you.
Stewigan
04-07-2006, 08:16 PM
getting an harris and over manning
Beaujest
04-07-2006, 09:02 PM
thanks h
bird moulting at moment been told to trying to leave it alone as much as pos
feeding loads don't want to lose bird just for not asking the right Q
got a book [emma ford ]leaning a lot
someone has been pm as what to do which is very helpfull
i will be asking loads of silly Q
thanks for you help
dick
Ask anything you need to.That is precisely what this is about:)
MickeyDredd
04-07-2006, 09:09 PM
Actualy, its probably getting a bird before they are ready for it!
Agreed!!
Dave G
04-07-2006, 09:12 PM
holding the bird back too long on the creance as scared to free fly it incase they loose it ?? not checking the creance lines in good condition before using it ??, over manning on fist with food ?? having no land to fly the bird so they take it over the local park ?? just a few lol
Nemesis
04-07-2006, 09:43 PM
[1] not having telemetry
["2] thinking thay no it all and finding out thay ,dont the hard way
[3] addmiting thay made a mistake on here
Tr1gger
04-07-2006, 09:52 PM
Actualy, its probably getting a bird before they are ready for it!
Bang on in my opinion
Harris
04-07-2006, 10:04 PM
[1] not having telemetry
["2] thinking thay no it all and finding out thay ,dont the hard way
[3] addmiting thay made a mistake on here
Well I for one allways admit it on here if I f*** up, as I did about the telem and my lost bird the other day. I think others learn from ppls mistakes, but then I got broad shoulders! :lol:
Stewigan
04-07-2006, 10:08 PM
some get a bird first then learn second. thats the worst mistake any beginer will ever make.
i agree to a certain extent! but also there is only so much u can be taught then the rest is hands on so to speak.
Jarreth
04-07-2006, 10:19 PM
I think the most common mistake is failing to notice when their bird has started to train them, rather than the other way around.
Paddy1
04-07-2006, 10:22 PM
ok instead of slagging of newbies how many of you have made the mistakes you have mentioned ?
cause from what ive read some of you are talking from personal experiences
Harris
04-07-2006, 10:27 PM
ok instead of slagging of newbies how many of you have made the mistakes you have mentioned ?
cause from what ive read some of you are talking from personal experiences
Paddy I dont take any of this as slagging off newbies! how do you think the experienced ppl are able to come up with these gems!! because they have been there! :lol:
Nemesis
04-07-2006, 10:30 PM
Well I for one allways admit it on here if I f*** up, as I did about the telem and my lost bird the other day. I think others learn from ppls mistakes, but then I got broad shoulders! :lol:
you are wright people can lern from others mistake,s but there are a few that go to far with there opinions and might put some one who is just starting out off,. some people dont have the confident,s to take being slaged off for a mistake that the people that are slaging them off have made themself,s we all have to start some were and some forget that ,I to have broad sholders and have made mistakesl ucky none were serious and have agood mate to call if need advise still lerning and will do for the rest off my life all the best /dave
Paddy1
04-07-2006, 10:34 PM
dont get me wrong mate i think consuctive critism goes a long way mate but hw many people got their 1st bop before they where ready and how did they now they were ready :supz:
Barbary Boy
04-07-2006, 10:40 PM
Worst mistake a begginer can make ! comeing on this forum?
Paddy1
04-07-2006, 10:46 PM
Worst mistake a begginer can make ! comeing on this forum?
lol sorry mate gotta disagree ive met some wicked people on this forum and recieved some excellent advice aswel:supz:
for hawks, not getting ferrets first :)
dick,
i havnt read all posts to this thread, so i hope i'm not repeating everything, i'm new to the art and in my oppinion the biggest mistake is getting the bird before you're ready, how do you know you're ready? when every thing you read is becomming repetitive! you then move on to videos, when the videos stop motivating you, you then get hands on with a club or local falconer,when theire bird has stoped making you nervous get you're own,
the next point, and this is what i was guilty of, not recognising the emediate responce required before free flight, i thaught i was getting it, and tried my bird free,then spent two days catching her up again,i droped her another full ounce and then realised what an emediate responce was, i litteraly had to run away from my bird to create any distance,obviously this is weight control and in my opinion you cant document it,all birds are individual in this respect but the emediate responce should be exactly that,
another important point in my opinion, having adequate equipment, i've talked to people who refuse to locate a vet or buy a first aid kit because they've never had to before, they don't have a crop tube kit,they don't have a recovery chamber/box they have no privision for a heat light,all would be required if the bird hit a fence and whent into shock, i have stuff that i baught before i got my bird and i have never touched it since(i'm glad to say) but it's there if things go t*ts up.
not asking enough questions of the right people,martin hollinshead was sick to death of me,neil forbes must of hated opening he's email server, ste lambert one of our members must remember jiff well before he got he's bird, and still i find myself in dilemas at times but the same people will answer the questions even if it seems they're repeating themselves,just remember mate it aint just beginners that make mistakes, but experiance helps you get away with them so you don't need to admit to them.
Intek Hosting
05-07-2006, 05:18 PM
Worst mistake a begginer can make ! comeing on this forum?
Why do you still bother then??
telling your partner your getting a bird and she will hardly know its there :roll: :lol: :lol:
hi all
what is the most common mistake a beginer make with his frist bird in my case a male hh?
thanks
Having a Harris to begin with!Not beginners birds imho!
Matthew Patching
05-07-2006, 10:34 PM
Most common mistake.
IMHO robbing the f##k out of the bird from the outset. tieing leashes to long & not knowing how to fit equiptment properly.
Most unforgivable mistake.
KILLING THE BIRD.
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