Landrover Freelanders?

[Dick Dastardly]

I have now decided to part company with my old Mitsubishi Pajero, its done the business for me the last couple of years and I can't fault it off road and on but its not the most economical motor. the Motor I'm planning on getting next is a Freelander but have heard a good few bad comments about gearbox problems and a few other niggly things, I'm not too bothered about seriouse Off Roading just a motor to get me around the farms I fly and shoot on, can anyone give me the low down on the Freelanders and how they rate them?

Cheers

Tony

[BrianM]

Nnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Dont Do It

[HunterPaul]

whyyyyyy... nooooooooooooooooooooooo.... I quite fancy a freelander too... and as I am clueless when it com4es to typing and motors... Id love to know the pitfalls.. and pluses

[BrianM]

ive never had one, but i know a few guys who have,, i think hackers the man to talk to,,???????

[PeregrinesUK]

I have a 05- 54 plate TD4 commercial freelander which i got new, like you say few niggley little things window wipers failed twice, slight diesel leak from pipe leading to filter, two or three other little leaks from various other places underneath, passenger side door window grinding when going up and down, went rusty around rear window blanks (was fixed now rusting again) latest thing is the turbo has failed so will be back in again- other than these which really is nothing its a very good van not got stuck in all sorts of **** on landfills and upto 35mpg+ so good economy too.

[Dick Dastardly]

I have a 05- 54 plate TD4 commercial freelander which i got new, like you say few niggley little things window wipers failed twice, slight diesel leak from pipe leading to filter, two or three other little leaks from various other places underneath, passenger side door window grinding when going up and down, went rusty around rear window blanks (was fixed now rusting again) latest thing is the turbo has failed so will be back in again- other than these which really is nothing its a very good van not got stuck in all sorts of **** on landfills and upto 35mpg+ so good economy too.

Thats what I'm looking for Mike more MPG! I can except a few niggly things cropping up but if its anything seriouse like the gearbox then it would have to go, The pajero has been a diamond and never missed a beat! just had a MOT with a new exhaust, Brake pads, Tyres but these are norm wear and tear so I can't moan, time for a change now and it was the TD4 I have been sniffing round.

[LongVVing]

have driven two fortunately both rental. One had gone back on several occasions with clutch/gearbox/transmission problem which never got sorted out properly. Just dumped it back! the other too had poor reliability compared to the Jap 4x4's.

Landrover defender etc... No worries but for me the freelanders are lots of money for very little in return relying on the name of the pedigree.

Could be just that I was unlucky although my bosses wife dumped hers after 3 months.

All the best,

Mark.

[LongVVing]

I have a 05- 54 plate TD4 commercial freelander which i got new, like you say few niggley little things window wipers failed twice, slight diesel leak from pipe leading to filter, two or three other little leaks from various other places underneath, passenger side door window grinding when going up and down, went rusty around rear window blanks (was fixed now rusting again) latest thing is the turbo has failed so will be back in again- other than these which really is nothing its a very good van not got stuck in all sorts of **** on landfills and upto 35mpg+ so good economy too.

Maybe the version you have is better although for me a list like that from a new vehicle would be unacceptable especially considering the price they are.
luckily as I said mine were both long term rentals which became very short term rentals. Cancelled the direct debit, left the car back with the garage.

I think the guy at the garage was even getting sick of the site of them.

Good luck and good hawking with yours though.

Mark.

[Addi]

dont even look at the early 2.0 diesels, they are more trouble than they are worth and it shows in that landrover quickly superseeded them with the bmw td4 lump, a far better engine.

Gearboxes and clutches are weak points however they are a landrover that drives like a car, you can do 300 miles and not feel completely knackered!

Off road main problem is lack of ground clearance however they arnt bad, dont be expecting disco and defender capabilitys though as th elack of manual diff locks and low box limits its ability

[Kentish Falconry]

I had one as a loan when some **** almost wiped out my BMW on the Motorway, I could not wait to get rid of it in fact we sent it back after 4 days. When I bought my Disco even the Salesman warned me not to buy one but I suppose if you live in Town it's not a bad shopping trolley so long as you can find a gear. We live in the middle of nowhere and we have to have reliable motors as it is 4 miles to the nearest shop.
My real oppinion is that I wouldn't have one as a gift let alone buy one, get a Disco or stick to Japanese motors. The name of it should give you a clue FREElander they shoulg give them away to get someone to drive them:lol:
Terry

[Dick Dastardly]

I'm getting a little put off now by some of the comments. My Pajero jap Import is a lovelly Motor, its fully loaded with all the gimicks Includeing Climate control and adjustable suspension loading but its a MPG thing with this Motor thats doing my head in, it seems to pass everything except a petrol station ;-), out of interest does the Freelandy's come with any Gimmicks? there's a few models available Includeing some I have seen at the auctions with leather Interior.

I'm now considering a LWB Pajero but with the 2.5 engine compared to the 2.8 I have here, if not a twin cab! But I still like the looks of the Freelander and also the fuel consumption quotes.

Cheers

Tony

[Trappa]

Ive got a freelander- so far ive had no problems. I chose the freelander because i dont do off-roading as such, just driving onto farm tracks which its fine for, and its economical for all the miles i do. Only grouch i have is that the boots not very big. al

[Addi]

unfortunatly the 2.5 engine is far less reliable than the 2.8 in pajeros, surf etc

[Alpha40]

Anybody tried the Rav 4 from Toyota????

[Tim Laycock]

Tony, Freelanders are a pile of cat **** but FFS dont buy a LWB Pajero with the 2.5 lump in it.
I drive one, its the thirstiest motor I have owned(and I have owned some!) It couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding either :roll: :(
I'm now considering a LWB Pajero but with the 2.5 engine compared to the 2.8 I have here, if not a twin cab! But I still like the looks of the Freelander and also the fuel consumption quotes.

Cheers

Tony

[Dick Dastardly]

unfortunatly the 2.5 engine is far less reliable than the 2.8 in pajeros, surf etc

I have heard this Addi due to the 2.5's being belt driven and the 2.8's chain driven, is this the problem?

[Dick Dastardly]

Tony, Freelanders are a pile of cat **** but FFS dont buy a LWB Pajero with the 2.5 lump in it.
I drive one, its the thirstiest motor I have owned(and I have owned some!) It couldnt pull the skin off a rice pudding either :roll: :(

I'll take you're word for it mate! this Paj is a 2.8 SWB and boy thats bad enough, the last time I popped down Gary Almeida's which is about 105 miles from here total it cost me £26 in fuel:roll:, They're a lovelly comfortable motor butthe fuel consumption is Unbeleivable, is your's a Auto or Manual?

Cheers

Tony

[Tim Laycock]

Auto Tony, fuel figures are comprable to yours but power is not :(

[Addi]

I have heard this Addi due to the 2.5's being belt driven and the 2.8's chain driven, is this the problem?


Yes and th eengine is more than just a bigger bore size, the suffer from a lot of head gasket problems, ive sold a good few from a previous dealer i worked for and most of the 2.5's came back on warranty with engine problems, the 2.8's never got seen again

[Dick Dastardly]

Yes and th eengine is more than just a bigger bore size, the suffer from a lot of head gasket problems, ive sold a good few from a previous dealer i worked for and most of the 2.5's came back on warranty with engine problems, the 2.8's never got seen again

Cheers for the Info Addi, thats one of them off the shopping list now:wink:, I'm probably asking for trouble but the TD4 Freelander is still working out perfect for me fuel wise, it could prove costly if the bloody thing keeps going tits up but at the moment I can't think of a alternative unless anyone wants to buy me one of the new Range Rovers :lol:.

Cheers

Tony

[GosHawking2Day]

Hi Tony,
You know my thoughts on the Freelander,****, to put it fairly politely.
Double Cabs are good especially the Nissan though not great room behind the front seats. TD5 Defender:heart:
Cheers mate.

[GameHawker]

Don't **** around with one of those Hairdresser's 4x4 get yourself A Nissan Navara D4 awesome truck loads of room the rear seats lift up and if you go stead you can get 575 miles to a tank.

Carl

[BlueBoy]

Don't **** around with one of those Hairdresser's 4x4 get yourself A Nissan Navara D4 awesome truck loads of room the rear seats lift up and if you go stead you can get 575 miles to a tank.

Carl

used to own one of these, your right driven steady there good on fuel and go anywhere in 4wd, but if your not doing any serious offroading you should try the suzuki 2.0td 40 to the gallon if you dont use the air con, and you can keep the scissors and hairdryer in the back;)

[Sprout]

I had the older shape Freelander, head gasket went twice in 12000 miles - apparently a problem now fixed in newer models. Howevere the interior was so cheap, looked and felt (and sounded) like it had been stuck to the frame with double sided sticky tape.

[AngelJakki]

Howevere the interior was so cheap, looked and felt (and sounded) like it had been stuck to the frame with double sided sticky tape.

That wasn't a defender in disguise was it.

[Palmer]

theres a new 1 out soon is there not, looks like a discovery

[BlueHawk]

Ditto to all the negative stuff above,

definitely a soft roader, huge reliability problems, and haven't heard anyone say anything good about them.

If its a Land Rover of any type, has to be a Defender, residuals are great, might not be the most comfortable compared to the new 4x4's, but tough as old boots.

I've had a Series 2a, 3 , Defender, Range Rover Classic, P38 and a Discovery, but wouldn't touch a Hairdressers' Freelander with a barge pole...

[Fires59]

Never had a problem with my 02 freelander tdi doesw everthing i want it to do and getting around 100 miles to a 10 of desiel what more could you ask every car has a few problems if you talk to someone but then thats cars for you.

[Hacker]

Later TD4 Freelander okay, forget 2.0 diesel gutless and as for the 1.8 and 2.5V6 engined models fatal engine problems.
2.5 pajero waste of time and double cab pick ups a lot better but **** leaf sprung rears weighted to take full load, ie, bloody hard sprung with no load and jittery back ends.
Defender good but agricultural and early TD5 reliability problems.
Disco more comfy but pretty plasticky interiors and also early TD5 reliability.
Jap jobs reliable and toyota landcruisers in their different guises probably the best package going.
Toyota Rav, Honda CRV and Suzuki all good reliability and willgive sufficient 4x4 capability for the average owner.
If your requirements are more extreme then you will know the answer.

[Pitbull]

with the problems you lot are saying about them no wonder thyre doing them 0% finance a 9 grand

[ACCIPITER-GENTILIS]

If your requirements are more extreme then you will know the answer.

range rover:?:

[Dick Dastardly]

Not a good advert for the Freelander after reading through a majority of the posts. a keeper in the area has a Navara and swears by it! most evenings in the winter he's out lamping in it, I have seen him booting it across some pretty rough terrain giving it some seriouse stick and as far as he tells me it does'nt miss a beat.

The trouble is I need a motor thats a bit more practical for the monster in doors, if I was useing it for a second motor it would be perfect but I'm not rich like some of you guys ;-), its a hard one trying to find a More economical reliable motor, it seems I can't have both! I love this 2.8 Pajero but coming back with 23 MPG at the most is no good for me, plus its a Automatic and I want to get back to a manual, a Defender with suit me perfect but inpractical for the monster and kids, I'll keep looking and listening and will sort it in the next few weeks! I have now narrowed it down to a Lada Cossack or a Skoda Pick Up :lol: :roll:, anyone got any pic's of their Hawk Mobiles?

Thanks all for the feedback

Tony

[Tim Laycock]

Thought you were running on oil Tony?

[Gary F]

intreasting thread,thought about a pajero,,no ones mentioned a frontier are they worth alook at?

[Dick Dastardly]

Thought you were running on oil Tony?

Far too dodgy these days! lots of tank dipping going on in the area this time of the year with all the Agricultural workers running around on red Tim, do you know anyone who has converted over to Gas? heard alot of good things about it.

[John Soulsby]

Just sold my Freelander, in the past six months I've spent over a £1,000 on repairs cylinder head gasket, front struts (pencil thin) really not up to off roading plus quite a few other odds and sods. The boot is quite small so you have to put the seats down when you want all your kit (bird etc) in it. When I came to sell it none of the garages wanted it back or the PX was awful. It was a beautiful looking car with a full body kit, great for posing but not hawking. Picking up a Mitsubishi Field next week, that should get me into some really out of the way places.

Freelanders - leave them in Kensington or Chelsea.

John

[Tim Laycock]

Far too dodgy these days! lots of tank dipping going on in the area this time of the year with all the Agricultural workers running around on red Tim, do you know anyone who has converted over to Gas? heard alot of good things about it.

Used to work with a guy who switched over, halved his fuel bill and it paid for itself in just under 2 years.

If you could buy a motor with it fitted your quids in, if not its a big initial outlay!

I will stick with oil :wink:

[Cobra]

intreasting thread,thought about a pajero,,no ones mentioned a frontier are they worth alook at?

The Mrs has run a 2.5 TDS for about 6 years now used for everyday transport and towing a double horse trailer.
No problems at all until recently. The 2.5 is a bit of an anomilly 4cyl. and 4 heads. they are reputed to self distruct at about 60,000. this one hit 110,000 then distructed! couldn't find anyone local to touch it it engine rebuild wise. Found a place in london that did a total rebuild including turbo injectors the works, in fact. for £3,500. I suppose it all depends on your perception. 3 and a half grand in 6 years plus the usual tyres I guess aint too bad. average mpg 28 whether towing or not. Oh yeah and a new clutch recently £300-ish
Though we are getting shot of it soon and looking at the double cab Ranger.
Anyone wanna buy a 2.5 TDS frontera transglobe loads spent the past 3 months or so:lol:
Chris

[Gary F]

The Mrs has run a 2.5 TDS for about 6 years now used for everyday transport and towing a double horse trailer.
No problems at all until recently. The 2.5 is a bit of an anomilly 4cyl. and 4 heads. they are reputed to self distruct at about 60,000. this one hit 110,000 then distructed! couldn't find anyone local to touch it it engine rebuild wise. Found a place in london that did a total rebuild including turbo injectors the works, in fact. for £3,500. I suppose it all depends on your perception. 3 and a half grand in 6 years plus the usual tyres I guess aint too bad. average mpg 28 whether towing or not. Oh yeah and a new clutch recently £300-ish
Though we are getting shot of it soon and looking at the double cab Ranger.
Anyone wanna buy a 2.5 TDS frontera transglobe loads spent the past 3 months or so:lol:
Chris
thanks for that reply