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PeelsBells
02-08-2006, 09:07 AM
Just writing to see if anyone out there is breeding these falcons as not much is said about them.Also to see if it was worth breeding them all info welcome.:-P

Osiris
02-08-2006, 09:13 AM
Just writing to see if anyone out there is breeding these falcons as not much is said about them.Also to see if it was worth breeding them all info welcome.:-P

Would also be interested to know if anyone on here is breeding them.

I've flown one in the past and they are amazing lure birds. Temperment is a bit to be critised although this is overcomed with their style of flight & the occasional excellent behaviour lol

FalconryMews101
02-08-2006, 05:49 PM
Peels, i just got a female off Mr.Hallgarth for displays so if you want to see one you can come see mine, shes 2004 born i think Ade breeds them?

PeelsBells
02-08-2006, 08:09 PM
Peels, i just got a female off Mr.Hallgarth for displays so if you want to see one you can come see mine, shes 2004 born i think Ade breeds them?
Cheers for that i will take you up on that once you have got her going.
Were in Cheshire are you?

FalconryMews101
03-08-2006, 10:40 PM
Based at the ice cream farm, Tattenhall just outside Chester.

PeelsBells
04-08-2006, 10:28 AM
Based at the ice cream farm, Tattenhall just outside Chester.:supz: Thats not to far, just living in Denton at the moment with the mother-in-law so your about 10 miles away. When you get her going give me a call as i would love to see her. Thanks for writing back.:supz:

FalconryMews101
04-08-2006, 05:25 PM
yea will let you know mate!

Saker-Sucker
04-08-2006, 06:40 PM
Nigel Jeffries of Yooneek Falcons, near Luton breeds them; I recently got a male off him. He still has a female, this years. If you want the phone no. pm me.

PeelsBells
05-08-2006, 03:50 PM
Nigel Jeffries of Yooneek Falcons, near Luton breeds them; I recently got a male off him. He still has a female, this years. If you want the phone no. pm me.


Pm on its way the bird looks stunning . What weight is he? i know nothing about these birds and would like to have a go with one.:supz:

OutFlying
05-08-2006, 04:01 PM
Did the russian cross female gos not materialise Andy ?

Jim.

Tone
05-08-2006, 04:49 PM
Would also be interested to know if anyone on here is breeding them.

I've flown one in the past and they are amazing lure birds. Temperment is a bit to be critised although this is overcomed with their style of flight & the occasional excellent behaviour lol


I flew a male 10 years back to the lure. Without doubt one of the best lure birds around. He was an absoloute swine and a scruffy ******, but all was forgiven when he chased that little leather bag. Not sure what they would be like to hunt with. A very underestimated bird:)

Saker-Sucker
05-08-2006, 05:56 PM
Andy, pm'd back:supz:

I beleive Adrian Halgarth also breeds them. I contacted a number of breeders this end and they all had a bad year with them.

A guy I know had one many years ago and he said his was brilliant. in the wilds, they snatch lizards etc. off walls..................he used an artist easle with a board; attached various foods and it would stoop and take the bits off in the displays...................
They are basically the Indian variant of a Lanner; they are also on the endangered red list in the wild.

Jeremiah Johnson
16-08-2006, 10:52 PM
I Breed em ...

LeighJauncey
17-08-2006, 11:44 AM
Here's a male Lugger I've just 'inherited' - 7 years old, has been a display bird. He's a grumpy sod at the moment but a real stunner (I didn't cope him!) I'm waiting 'til he's finished moulting before doing anything, apparently his flying weight was just under 1lb. I'm scratching my head a bit thinking what I might fly him at (quarry wise) - has anyone actually hunted with one?

Saker-Sucker
17-08-2006, 11:56 AM
I've been told the magpies are a good quarry for them.................

Sandeep
17-08-2006, 11:57 AM
My friend had one that he trained and hunted ... I think he had bagged 4-5 egrets, a few patridges and quite a number of crows... He then released the bird during moult...

It was a passage bird.. I will se if I can post a picture a two. I will have to really dig it out.

LeighJauncey
17-08-2006, 02:42 PM
My friend had one that he trained and hunted ... I think he had bagged 4-5 egrets, a few patridges and quite a number of crows... He then released the bird during moult...

It was a passage bird.. I will se if I can post a picture a two. I will have to really dig it out.

Presumably that would have been a female? Mind you egrets are getting pretty common round here so.........

LeighJauncey
17-08-2006, 02:44 PM
I've been told the magpies are a good quarry for them.................

I've heard various things about Luggers and magpies - personally I don't think a lone bird would stand much of a chance. It would be nice to hear from someone who's actually done it.

Turumti
17-08-2006, 11:45 PM
I hunted partridge with my imprint male lugger. He was so much better than the horrid passage luggers I later got. He would catch the partridge and then drag them to me.

Passage females can be a real pain in the a$$, very cranky birds. I would much rather have a saker any day.

LeighJauncey
18-08-2006, 10:17 AM
I hunted partridge with my imprint male lugger. He was so much better than the horrid passage luggers I later got. He would catch the partridge and then drag them to me.

Passage females can be a real pain in the a$$, very cranky birds. I would much rather have a saker any day.

What species of partridge was that? What sort of flights did you have - sounds interesting!

FlameHairedFalconer
18-08-2006, 10:35 AM
Here's a male Lugger I've just 'inherited' - 7 years old, has been a display bird. He's a grumpy sod at the moment but a real stunner (I didn't cope him!) I'm waiting 'til he's finished moulting before doing anything, apparently his flying weight was just under 1lb. I'm scratching my head a bit thinking what I might fly him at (quarry wise) - has anyone actually hunted with one?

What a lovely looking falcon! I've only ever seen luggers in immature plumage which is a bit drab.

FHF

PeelsBells
18-08-2006, 11:21 AM
Did the russian cross female gos not materialise Andy ?

Jim.

Yes i am going picking the bird up this Sunday 8 0'colck in the morning.
Been very lucky as my friend is going to get her going for me whilst my house is being built as i have no room to put the bird its always the same:-x
I will post some pictures on here of her and weight. I hope Richard and Peter have are true to their word and the birds are as big as they say.
Fingers crossed :supz: hope all goes well with her.

OutFlying
22-08-2006, 09:43 PM
Good luck with her, would like to see the pictures of the gos.

Jim.

Turumti
22-08-2006, 10:56 PM
I hunted black and grey partridge with my imprint male lugger. Mostly blacks though. I flew him in a waiting on style.

How I taught him, to wait on is story in itself. I kited him. Not in the conventional sense of the word, but rather unintentionally, while trying to fly him to the lure on a creance. The wind was a tad high for him and it took him straight up like a kite. Once he came dead overhead I threw out the lure for him, and he soon got the idea. Three kiting sessions were all I did with him before I gave him a bagged partridge. The next partridge he killed was one I flushed for him. He never waited on very high - 150 feet max, but what he lacked in height, he more than made up in guts. He would crash into bushes like a gos and the best part was that he never carried, not even if he caught a small bird.

LeighJauncey
23-08-2006, 09:45 AM
I hunted black and grey partridge with my imprint male lugger. Mostly blacks though. I flew him in a waiting on style.

How I taught him, to wait on is story in itself. I kited him. Not in the conventional sense of the word, but rather unintentionally, while trying to fly him to the lure on a creance. The wind was a tad high for him and it took him straight up like a kite. Once he came dead overhead I threw out the lure for him, and he soon got the idea. Three kiting sessions were all I did with him before I gave him a bagged partridge. The next partridge he killed was one I flushed for him. He never waited on very high - 150 feet max, but what he lacked in height, he more than made up in guts. He would crash into bushes like a gos and the best part was that he never carried, not even if he caught a small bird.

Brings a whole new meaning to kite training! Thanks, this sounds promising - I just hope he hurries up and finishes moulting.

Falkeeno
18-09-2006, 05:49 PM
Hi,can any one give some information on the nearest Harris Hawk breeder,iam in the Manchester area . regards Ste.:) :)