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JFSeaman
03-09-2006, 06:30 AM
In the US (as you know but I can be quite pedantic) the releationship between the experience falconer/austringer and the new recruit is called sponsor and apprentice.

In the UK what do/will we call this relationship. Mentor and apprentice? Sponsor?

What do we call someone who wants to become a falconer/austringer but has not yet decided to take up a bird? Candidate? Wannabee is demeaning to me.

I ask because to me, some consistancy in naming helps with wider understanding of the relationship and purpose and since I support any form of qualifications scheme understanding the purpose is important.

Venividevenatio
03-09-2006, 02:59 PM
How about "What will you have to drink, SIR
/MADAM?"

Paddy1
03-09-2006, 03:03 PM
from what i gather mate mentor seems to be the norm in the uk and yes sir or madam would also work pmsl

JFSeaman
19-09-2006, 11:58 AM
At club meetings I'll start putting it forward as mentor. We have several new members and I want to try to get a relationship going between the new/want to be falconers/austringer and an experienced falconer/austringer

FoxHunter
19-09-2006, 01:08 PM
In the US (as you know but I can be quite pedantic) the releationship between the experience falconer/austringer and the new recruit is called sponsor and apprentice.

In the UK what do/will we call this relationship. Mentor and apprentice? Sponsor?

What do we call someone who wants to become a falconer/austringer but has not yet decided to take up a bird? Candidate? Wannabee is demeaning to me.

I ask because to me, some consistency in naming helps with wider understanding of the relationship and purpose and since I support any form of qualifications scheme understanding the purpose is important.
"East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet". Incidentally has anyone encountered any reference to Kipling practising falconry?

Gozzhawk
19-09-2006, 01:31 PM
mentor : wise counsellor....Mentor tutored Athena

sponsor : a promoter , one who pays for advertisement.

seems simple to me.
unless I pay an apprentice to walk around wearing sh8t with my name on it .....oh ,,, I get it now ...buy stuff from gozzhawk , he's my SPONSOR!!!!

GregMik
19-09-2006, 01:41 PM
mentor : wise counsellor....Mentor tutored Athena

sponsor : a promoter , one who pays for advertisement.

seems simple to me.
unless I pay an apprentice to walk around wearing sh8t with my name on it .....oh ,,, I get it now ...buy stuff from gozzhawk , he's my SPONSOR!!!!

Sponsor (From Mirriam-Webster)

1 : one who presents a candidate for baptism or confirmation and undertakes responsibility for the person's religious education or spiritual welfare
2 : one who assumes responsibility for some other person or thing
3 : a person or an organization that pays for or plans and carries out a project or activity; especially : one that pays the cost of a radio or television program usually in return for advertising time during its course

Number 2 seems to fit here in the US where an apprenticeship is required.

Greg

Argee
19-09-2006, 05:30 PM
Sponsor (From Mirriam-Webster)

1 : one who presents a candidate for baptism or confirmation and undertakes responsibility for the person's religious education or spiritual welfare
2 : one who assumes responsibility for some other person or thing
3 : a person or an organization that pays for or plans and carries out a project or activity; especially : one that pays the cost of a radio or television program usually in return for advertising time during its course

Number 2 seems to fit here in the US where an apprenticeship is required.

Greg

no; 2 ... ' bro ', 'bruv', 'blood' ....

???? :rolleyes:

(*v*) ...

GregMik
19-09-2006, 11:19 PM
no; 2 ... ' bro ', 'bruv', 'blood' ....

???? :rolleyes:

(*v*) ...

You lost me.....:roll:

Greg

JFSeaman
20-09-2006, 06:38 AM
no; 2 ... ' bro ', 'bruv', 'blood' ....

???? :rolleyes:

(*v*) ...

AGREE lost me too but AGREE is always taking the p*ss on serious subjects.

Went to club meeting last night, between that and GregMik's provided definitions, mentor is closest for UK.

No one here will take reponsability so sponsor doesn't work.