a very expensuv rush to the vets

[TazDaStokMaker]

i was flying my ypungest readtail (styre) to day on the crance and he was fine a bit reultint but i expeted that becaus it was a strange plase . anay way i got the dumi buni out and he chot it and he had hes feed on it 3 chiks so i got him off it hooded him up and and went over the gate and i walked down the lane a bit walking home and he spred his wings out and was swaying about and then sortov lay down on the glove so when i got him home i took the hood off and he fel of the glove and diddent even try to get bak up so i tryed to see if he chod sit on the perch but he chodent so tok him in the house and got my mum to phone the vets and thay sed bring him hear now so we got in the car and he diddent even try to sit in the fise so he just lied thare go him to the vets and he stod on the fist then a bit better so the vet cheked him over and thay sed his crop was to full and he had to get it emptyed so we went to the vets and hower later to colect him . thay showed me whot was in his crop 3 chiks 4 heads and 4 legs and thay sed that he was geting fed to mutch and the musels in the crop wer streched as far as thay can go and thay sed he mite have to be fed his food minced for the rest of his life and thay took 145 for emptying his crop he is home and is fine but if thay have to mutch food in thar crop thay can through it bak up cant thay?
i think thare was something difrent rong with him but i dont no whot . all the sympton hapend within 10 minnits

[MickeyDredd]

i would suggest that was a **** diagnosis!!

Is the birds keel very sharp?

Which vet did you take him to?

[TazDaStokMaker]

i would suggest that was a **** diagnosis!!

Is the birds keel very sharp?

Which vet did you take him to?

that is whot i thot as wel
he isant rasor sharp a bit sharp he waied 1 13 3/8s

talors near eastkilbride

[MickeyDredd]

Nobody can give you an accurate diagnosis over the internet but I think you have taken him too low, this weight is certainly at the very lower end of the scale for a MRT.

What weight was he out of the aviary?

[TazDaStokMaker]

he was about 2.2 but he diddent even look at food til he was 1 .11 3/4 and i uped him to 2 and he wouldent eat of the fist so i tok him down to1 14 and he was eating then geting him to hop he was 1 13 and i tok him down to 1 12 1/2 and i was bringing his wate back up he has ben flying on the crance since friday and he has ben feading of the dumi buni since saterday i diddent fly him yesterday and fed him 3 chiks on the fist and this morning he was comepletlay fine and for the rest of the day till i waked home from flying him

[GregMik]

Mate....It does sound like you have gotten him to low and he ended with sourcrop.

Are you being mentored by anybody? This is something that should be looked at by a practicing falconer in person. It is hard to figure out what you are doing when we can't look at the bird in question.

Did the vet tell you that he had to be fed minced food forever or just until it recovers from sourcrop? What happens with sour crop is the bird gets so low that it cannot process food anymore and the stuff that has been eaten just stays in the crop and rots. Are you sure this is not what the vet has told you?

Greg

[TazDaStokMaker]

Mate....It does sound like you have gotten him to low and he ended with sourcrop.

Are you being mentored by anybody? This is something that should be looked at by a practicing falconer in person. It is hard to figure out what you are doing when we can't look at the bird in question.

Did the vet tell you that he had to be fed minced food forever or just until it recovers from sourcrop? What happens with sour crop is the bird gets so low that it cannot process food anymore and the stuff that has been eaten just stays in the crop and rots. Are you sure this is not what the vet has told you?

Greg
no i am not being monaterd but i can phone pepole for help thay sed he mite but thay sed hopefulay not but when she emptied the crop it was onlay whot i fed him that day and thay niver sed anaything about him being to lite or anaythinappart from i was feding him to mutch at a tyme but how can 3 chiks be to mutch?

[GregMik]

no i am not being monaterd but i can phone pepole for help thay sed he mite but thay sed hopefulay not but when she emptied the crop it was onlay whot i fed him that day and thay niver sed anaything about him being to lite or anaythinappart from i was feding him to mutch at a tyme but how can 3 chiks be to mutch?

First off....it is very hard to read your posts mate. If you click on the "ABC" when you are typing a reply it will send you to "Ispell" which you can download and it will help you spellcheck....I use it all the time because I type like ****.

Three chicks is not too much unless your bird is too low. If they pulled out all those things from your birds crop he had too much in there and you have to figure out why he still had food in his crop. Did you notice that he had a crop when you fed him? Most birds will put thier crop over in a few hrs. When was the last time you fed him before the three chicks?

Greg

[TazDaStokMaker]

First off....it is very hard to read your posts mate. If you click on the "ABC" when you are typing a reply it will send you to "Ispell" which you can download and it will help you spellcheck....I use it all the time because I type like ****.

Three chicks is not too much unless your bird is too low. If they pulled out all those things from your birds crop he had too much in there and you have to figure out why he still had food in his crop. Did you notice that he had a crop when you fed him? Most birds will put thier crop over in a few hrs. When was the last time you fed him before the three chicks?

Greg

i fed hin the day before 3 chiks and i cheked his crop in the morning to day and he had a cast i it and by 12pm he through it out and i flew him about 6pm and finished flying about 6.30 and in the car to the vets about 6.50

[TazDaStokMaker]

oh and my pc wont let me use the spel chek tryed be fore:lol:

[SkyGod]

Hope You Bird Gets Better Mate Did You Notice If The Birds Iner Mouth Was Dark Brown

[TazDaStokMaker]

Hope You Bird Gets Better Mate Did You Notice If The Birds Iner Mouth Was Dark Brown

thanks

i niver notised if it was

[SkyGod]

Is There Any Falconers Near You How Can Help You Out?

[GregMik]

i fed hin the day before 3 chiks and i cheked his crop in the morning to day and he had a cast i it and by 12pm he through it out and i flew him about 6pm and finished flying about 6.30 and in the car to the vets about 6.50


If he cast...How'd he get the rabbit heads in his crop?

Greg

[SkyGod]

Was It A Raptor Vet You To Him To?

[GregMik]

Join me in the chat so we can talk real time.....

Greg

[TazDaStokMaker]

Is There Any Falconers Near You How Can Help You Out?i have a frend that had my hawks brouther but i have him now aswel:supz: but i tryed to phone him before i went to the vets but he diddent ancer his mob but when i came back i phoned him and thot the same as me about the feding to mutch at the 1 time and the vet sed i shodent feed a bird strate after flying him to leve him an hower or 2 before i feed him


and she sed i am feding his brouther to mutch aswel at a time he isant flying the now and siting at 2 4 oh he is bud f.readtail hawk before he was mine

[GregMik]

Mate....You need to get with a Falconer. You cannot feed to much in one sitting unless the bird is too low in weight.


Greg

i have a frend that had my hawks brouther but i have him now aswel:supz: but i tryed to phone him before i went to the vets but he diddent ancer his mob but when i came back i phoned him and thot the same as me about the feding to mutch at the 1 time and the vet sed i shodent feed a bird strate after flying him to leve him an hower or 2 before i feed him


and she sed i am feding his brouther to mutch aswel at a time he isant flying the now and siting at 2 4 oh he is bud f.readtail hawk before he was mine

[Salty]

just a long shot mate but his hood wasnt to tight that day was it or is it ,i saw a pere keel over and was semi concious for a while through a ill fitting hood,by the way that vet has got to be talking ****,is he ok now ,if he is just carry on as no:supz: rmal again n see what happens good luck mate

[TazDaStokMaker]

his hod isant to tight he can chuk it off but he semes to be finene now but i am feeding not mutch but often

[Mr_Colin]

vet sed i shodent feed a bird strate after flying him to leve him an hower or 2 before i feed him


What utter ****, if I were you mate get another vet as the one you went to hasn't got a clue about rapters. If we didn't feed while out flying we would have problems recalling and dont get me started on hunting.

Take the advice of others here as well, get yourself an experienced mentor local to you so he/she can have a look at the bird.

Colin

[OutFlying]

This hawk needs to be seen by someone experienced in flying hawks, 3 chicks shouldn't be a problem for any sized hawks and especially for a red tail.

Something is wrong with him, I suspect he's far to low.

Jim.

[Jastreb]

I was flying MRT for two seasons and in my opinion it was too low, but as Mike said it's hard to tell over internet!
Cheers Viktor

[BlueHawk]

Have been over to see the bird today, and he has been too low, Frazer off for the weekend, so I'm sure he'll keep everyone posted when he comes back.

[Sighthound]

Is that Grants bird your flying. ?

[GregMik]

Good deal Bluehawk! Thanks for helping the kid out!!!

Greg

[TazDaStokMaker]

Is that Grants bird your flying. ?

yep i have bud and his brouther it is his brouther that was ill i am home now and a really big thanks to blue hawk and evry 1 else:supz:

he is doing fine now thanks agen fraser

[FlameHairedFalconer]

Pleased to hear he is on the mend.

FHF