"Double flying" Gamehawks.

[Stratocaster]

What are your opinions on double flying gamehawks once they are made?
My own policy is single flights, firstly because where I used to live good slips were hard to find, but now even where I live and game is plentiful I still apply
one flight a day, regardless of sucess or failure to kill.
When the falcon does kill, she is fed a decent reward from the quarry.
This seems to encourage confident reliable flying on an almost daily basis.
How does pitch and performance compare in a falcon that is double flown?
do you get better flights/pitch regularly on the second flight?
Just wondering what others think.
Regards Mike.

[Berkut]

What are your opinions on double flying gamehawks once they are made?
My own policy is single flights, firstly because where I used to live good slips were hard to find, but now even where I live and game is plentiful I still apply
one flight a day, regardless of sucess or failure to kill.
When the falcon does kill, she is fed a decent reward from the quarry.
This seems to encourage confident reliable flying on an almost daily basis.
How does pitch and performance compare in a falcon that is double flown?
do you get better flights/pitch regularly on the second flight?
Just wondering what others think.
Regards Mike.

Mike,
Hope you are well.I follow your own policy and find it worked well for me.
I only ever flew a double flight once and killed 2 grouse.A real red letter day.
However with a seasoned falcon on well stocked ground I don,t see a problem giving a 2nd flight with a decent gap in between.
Regards,
Neil.

[TiercelJim]

Hi mike,
If we kill first time round we call it aday, but if we miss then we'll try again,because i fly afternoons the second flight tends to be late on so he's more determined and will have that slight edge to him but this is probably more to do with the time of day.I suppose a well made hawk should be fairly consistant as it knows whats needed to gain its reward.I cant comment on how theyde fly second time after succes as ive never tried it.
jim

[Dean]

All depends on the individual mate,some falcons excell in the second or third flight at a max,some are reliably the same whatever,some lower their pitch, i have flown all three!

[Stratocaster]

Hello Neil,
I'm ok thanks,
Im definately not knocking flying more than once a day, its something I have
so rarely done, hence the post,
I can see where you are coming from regarding the brace! :supz:
Regards Mike

[Stratocaster]

Hello Jim
Pretty much the same approach, I just feed according to effort on a miss.
Regards Mike.

[Merger]

All depends on the individual mate,some falcons excell in the second or third flight at a max,some are reliably the same whatever,some lower their pitch, i have flown all three!I would agree with this,, but the best way to see, is to try your own bird, on a second flight ,later in the day, decreasing daylight, and no food in the crop, will either give you,your birds normal pitch, or considerably lower! but a more determined accent,, try it a few times,experimenting,on undulating ground, and a bird that uses available lift, there will be little energy exersion, wich will be your determining factor,, you wont ruin a made game hawk , and you may or may not, be suprised at the outcome...

[Stratocaster]

Hello Kev
Not asking with a view to trying, I am happy with the methods I use,
just interested in other peoples approach.


Regards Mike.

[MitchellBrad]

Hi mike,
If we kill first time round we call it aday, but if we miss then we'll try again,because i fly afternoons the second flight tends to be late on so he's more determined and will have that slight edge to him but this is probably more to do with the time of day.I suppose a well made hawk should be fairly consistant as it knows whats needed to gain its reward.I cant comment on how theyde fly second time after succes as ive never tried it.
jim

Same thing here Jim. Sometimes a bird won't perform too good the first time. It seems the second time the bird will fly better. I always end it if a kill is made and for a youngster crop the heck out of the bird. Older birds I won't fly a second time if they killed but a big crop isn't always necessary.

Brad

[Hacker]

For a working bird we aim for three flights a day for the bird to be an effective deterent.
If the bird does not have extremely long chases and is rested in betwen then a fit bird can achieve this daily.
The birds are usually only flown in the afternoon period ie after midday preferably.

[Sokoly]

It's a good practise to fly a young bird one flight per day, although I fly mine twice. With at least half an hour preferably longer pause, between the flights. It also makes a difference if the bird has killed or not. Usually this is a decision on the side of the falconer if he is to fly the bird again. It's very hard and wrong to generalize.Every bird is different so should be the approache. Falconers sometimes have to push the bird so the falcons learn some new tactics. If the bird has not flown as it should it's good to give her a second chanse - a chanse to improove.

[Falconry Equipment International]

I tend yo fly once, although esp when trying to use psychology to atain a better pitch in a young hawk, if the hawl has not performed to my expectation/ anticipatione for the day's conditions etc, I will use what seems to be called negative reinforcement , ie hood the hawk up leave her whilst i fly other hawks etc and then I will either try a 2nd flight or more ususally fly the hawk to a serious pitch to the kite ie 1500 ~ 2000 ' hope this makes sense