Wild Female Calidus

[QTR]

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Hi mates this another picture for a wild female calidus just traped two weeks ago with good size and wight (2ib10 oz ) i believe this was the hunting wight for the female peregrine calidus by the way it is a passege bird belong to friend of mine,
with my regards.

[John Dumbar]

Stunning huge Falcon. Shame that they are hard to purchase in Europe.
If she really flies at 2lb 10 oz seems to be bigger even than pealei peregrinus, the biggest I've ever heard about, what about tircels size?
Regards.

[MitchellBrad]

Uhhhh, she's a haggard. She's part of the foundation of the breeding population.

[Java Falconer]

Wow...awesome...seems that she is just like mine!

[Steven]

Brads correct, shes haggard alright. We get them here during our summer months.

[Terry Hanson]

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Hi mates this another picture for a wild female calidus just traped two weeks ago with good size and wight (2ib10 oz ) i believe this was the hunting wight for the female peregrine calidus by the way it is a passege bird belong to friend of mine,
with my regards.

At A glance it looks a bit like a tiercel. Not a 2lb 10oz flying lump!
Terry

[Gyr-SakerFalcon]

Sorry but this is a trapped bird???????????? Is that still necessary with all the good breeders about????????

[FlameHairedFalconer]

Sorry but this is a trapped bird???????????? Is that still necessary with all the good breeders about????????

The bird and falconer are not in the UK.

This is an INTERNATIONAL falconry forum. :D

FHF

[Gyr-SakerFalcon]

No S**T but even still seems a bit pointless to take birds from wild when these days it is completely un-necessary as there are more than enough being bred in captivity

[LanczSpringer]

No S**T but even still seems a bit pointless to take birds from wild when these days it is completely un-necessary as there are more than enough being bred in captivity

If you take the UK I think the numbers of peregrines in the wild are probably at an all time high, why not allow wild take?

[Terry Hanson]

If you take the UK I think the numbers of peregrines in the wild are probably at an all time high, why not allow wild take?

This was not in the UK :lol:

[LanczSpringer]

I know it wasn't ;-)

but gyr-sakerfalcon posted this!! "No S**T but even still seems a bit pointless to take birds from wild when these days it is completely un-necessary as there are more than enough being bred in captivity"

my point was why should they not take from the wild?

Increased bloodlines being one of the positives?

[Terry Hanson]

I know it wasn't ;-)

but gyr-sakerfalcon posted this!! "No S**T but even still seems a bit pointless to take birds from wild when these days it is completely un-necessary as there are more than enough being bred in captivity"

my point was why should they not take from the wild?

Increased bloodlines being one of the positives?

because if you go back to the 3rd post by Brad and read his post. They are the breeding foundation. They are under lot of pressure in the wild in this modern age, I think that was what gyr-sakerfalcon was refering to.

[Gyr-SakerFalcon]

QUOTE "Increased bloodlines being one of the positives?"


I dont think that is a valid point as i dont think their intentions are to introduce this bird to any sort of breeding program do you?

[QTR]

Hi Guy's
Going back to the same thread i find a nice photo for what we call it a white calidus pergrine tiercel.

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/25a3c8c055.jpg

who breed this kind of color these days.

All The Best
Aziz

[Salty]

Hi Guy's
Going back to the same thread i find a nice photo for what we call it a white calidus pergrine tiercel.

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/25a3c8c055.jpg

who breed this kind of color these days.

All The Best
Aziz

now that is a stunner dude,very nice,salty:supz:

[Falconry Equipment International]

now that is one dark hawk :yawinkle: :heart:

[TiercelJim]

Hi Guy's
Going back to the same thread i find a nice photo for what we call it a white calidus pergrine tiercel.

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/25a3c8c055.jpg

who breed this kind of color these days.

All The Best
Aziz

Hi aziz,thats a very nice tiercel,have you anymore photos of him to show.
jim

[QTR]

Hi aziz,thats a very nice tiercel,have you anymore photos of him to show.
jim

Hi jim
I wish i have more but fore years back i had one female like the one in the photo and i show it to martin patrson he was visting as in qatar and he said at that day i love to have this female for breeding whith white male gyr so he can have white (gyr/pergrine).

All The Best
Aziz

[QTR]

Hi guy's
what i want to show you is my 2 hunting calidus female peregrine , so the first one is now 4 years old and the fat weight is 1075g .
http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/dac892caac.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

as for the second female she natural killer and my favorite falcon 3 years old and the fat weight is 1165g
http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/a3030a7fe8.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)
both of them from the wild stock
all the best,
aziz

[Joey]

wow beautiful birds mate do you just hunt hobora with them (if that how you spell it)



joey

[MitchellBrad]

because if you go back to the 3rd post by Brad and read his post. They are the breeding foundation. They are under lot of pressure in the wild in this modern age, I think that was what gyr-sakerfalcon was refering to.

All my falconry life, 40+ years I've been trained or had it beaten into my head don't touch haggards. In the US it's illegal to keep a hag if you catch one. Back in the 60's I was given two haggards. One a rt and the other a gos. The rt I released as soon as I got it eating good. The gos I flew for a little while. She caught a lot of rabbits. After a little while I released her. My personal belief is to leave them alone. There are lots of immature birds out there. Most will die a sorry death so a falconer keeping one will probably save it's life.

I believe what other's do in their own countries is their own business provided they don't impact the wild populations. It isn't for me to tell anyone what to do. I can suggest or voice my opinions but in the long run it's the falconer's own morals that will govern what he does.

It comes down to protecting the resource more than anything else. Not whether I like or dislike what anyone else does.

Now if I were trapping a migration route and saw an inordinate amount of haggards to immatures I might think something was wrong.

Brad

[Ben C]

Beautiful::::::heart: :yawinkle:

I don't think Houbara are allowed to be hunted as they are EXTREMELY rare. Or at leats getting that way.

[MitchellBrad]

If you take the UK I think the numbers of peregrines in the wild are probably at an all time high, why not allow wild take?

My personal opinion is if the population is at an all time high then falconers should be allowed to take birds. Don't hurt a thing in the giant scheme of things. It would be great if you could trap immatures. I'm telling ya folks that this intermewed passage gyr has been a wild ride for me. She's all my dreams and nightmares wrapped into one.

Brad

[QTR]

wow beautiful birds mate do you just hunt hobora with them (if that how you spell it)



joey

Hi joey
our first priorty is houbara.

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/4bf4aca3cc.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

and the second is stone coroan.

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/dd1afe8b3b.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

the third is desert hare

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/4331967497.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

All The Best
Aziz

[Joey]

wow brillaint mate must be some top sport over there love the stone coroan sitting still and the falcon on her kill keep it up


joey

[Kashai]

Although this bird is not a calidus, but rather big:), bred by a friend of mine. On the scale you can see the fat weight (1378g) the flying weight was 1050-1100g.

[Sokoly]

The few Callidus I have seen were bigger then this. The weight went up to 1300gr. HUGE falcons and the mature plumage was kind of grey rusty. A beauty of it's own.Unfortunatelly this winter is very mild and no passagers come here any more. It's famous for it's habit to sit on the ground (unusual for peregrines) and preferably duck as a quarry. So if you are looking for some try to find them where you can find ponds and lakes. Remember that it is the best to release the haggard and keep the passagers if your country law allows you to catch them at all. Have some human dignity and concious because if we take the wild population basis ( the haggards ), we are ruining it all. I practise to hunt for a season with a passager and release it back to the wild when hunting season ends. By doing this you help surviving rate of the passagers ( 80% of the passagers don't live enough to sea the next srping).So by releasing them back into the wild you give them another chance in their life. You don't have to bother to keep them through the moult. Next September/October you can ( again if the law in your country permits) catch you another passanger and go through the same beautiful cycle. This way you gain more experiance because you work with completelly different falcon and you seek ways of doing things more succesfully then the previous one. It is beautifull when you get to remember the different progress of each and every bird. So with all do respect to the tradition and ways of doing falconry, lets not be destructive and keep these pearls comming year after year.
All the best Sokoly

[Marlon]

another pic from pure peals female ....

[QTR]

Hi guy's
I still have some pictures left for calidus pergrines but I thought it will be intersted to show you my photo with someone i'm sure some of you will recodnize him,this photo was taken during my last visit to scotland(november 2006)with a nice scottish pergrine therefore i'm looking for parent reared female dark scottish pergrine should be(2.8 0z or more fat weight)for my hunting (2007)looking forward to hear from some one please reply by PM.

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/da1fa07ef3.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

All The Best
Aziz

[Altai]

Hi Guy's
Going back to the same thread i find a nice photo for what we call it a white calidus pergrine tiercel.

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/25a3c8c055.jpg

who breed this kind of color these days.

All The Best
Aziz

Hi Aziz,
This white fronted type is what I think off when I talk about calidus.
Although I was once give an injured immature teircel from the coast of Wales that moulted out to look the same, but smaller. I feel calidus share characteristics with the F.p.tundrus, but our US and Canadian members will be able to shed more light on that.

The 2 pink fronted females look more like the birds found along the far eastern coastal strip, (and I believe now further inland), of Russia, F.p.japonensis
I have a theory that peregrines found in similar ecological niches with similar food supply and life style look similar, eg birds from the islands/coast of Norway, Scotland/Irland,northwestern seaboard of US/Canada and far east coast of Russia.

[MitchellBrad]

Hi Aziz,
This white fronted type is what I think off when I talk about calidus.
Although I was once give an injured immature teircel from the coast of Wales that moulted out to look the same, but smaller. I feel calidus share characteristics with the F.p.tundrus, but our US and Canadian members will be able to shed more light on that.

The 2 pink fronted females look more like the birds found along the far eastern coastal strip, (and I believe now further inland), of Russia, F.p.japonensis
I have a theory that peregrines found in similar ecological niches with similar food supply and life style look similar, eg birds from the islands/coast of Norway, Scotland/Irland,northwestern seaboard of US/Canada and far east coast of Russia.

Has anyone done some telemetry on these birds to see what they actually are? Unless you were on the rope most of this is guesswork. Back when I trapped the beach all but one bird was typical tundra. Today I have reservations about one bird and now think we may have caught a Canadian anatum.

I've been with folks who would say a wild bird we saw was definately this or that. About the best I could come up with was the bird was definately a peregrine.

Brad

[QTR]

Has anyone done some telemetry on these birds to see what they actually are? Unless you were on the rope most of this is guesswork. Back when I trapped the beach all but one bird was typical tundra. Today I have reservations about one bird and now think we may have caught a Canadian anatum.

I've been with folks who would say a wild bird we saw was definately this or that. About the best I could come up with was the bird was definately a peregrine.

Brad


Hi Brad
Yes did some telemeter on the wild peregrine for two years every years we release some of the wild peregrine end of the hunting season we put one of the satellite transmission in one of the release falcon and this is monitor by Qatar Falcon Centre
So the rezelet is that the falcon travel all the way to Sybaira we did this two years and we stopped because we find out where the bird reach and second because each transmitter is cost three thousand dollar and I believe the same programmer in UAE

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/d16c54aee7.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

All the best
Aziz

[Sokoly]

Very good info, it tells us the destinations these birds can cover. Peregrinus in latin means wanderer!!!It seams it deserves that name.

[MitchellBrad]

Hi Brad
Yes did some telemeter on the wild peregrine for two years every years we release some of the wild peregrine end of the hunting season we put one of the satellite transmission in one of the release falcon and this is monitor by Qatar Falcon Centre
So the rezelet is that the falcon travel all the way to Sybaira we did this two years and we stopped because we find out where the bird reach and second because each transmitter is cost three thousand dollar and I believe the same programmer in UAE All the best
Aziz

What a treat to know that, my friend. Now you know unlike us and these gyrs down here. I wish someone would do that with these birds. There has been some telemetry work done on the wintering birds but not long term studies to see where they come from.
Brad

[QTR]

Hi guys
First year a wild female calidus , very good size with big feet

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/1ca706fd2d.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

All the best
Aziz

[MitchellBrad]

Hi guys
First year a wild female calidus , very good size with big feet
All the best
Aziz

I'm impressed. Any chance of getting the weight on her. Grams will do :yawinkle:

Brad

[Sokoly]

She is a beauty. Notice the light colour of this specimen and the trade mark of Callidus the thiner mallard stripes. I would love to fly this bird on duck's.:-)
Sokoly

[MitchellBrad]

She is a beauty. Notice the light colour of this specimen and the trade mark of Callidus the thiner mallard stripes. I would love to fly this bird on duck's.:-)
Sokoly

It's hard to tell with this falcon but this tundra has a malar almost as thin. I wonder if the Calidus is a heavy weight tundra. There are jillions of pictures of tundra falcons due to the extensive research (read paid vacations) done on them. I only have this.

[Sokoly]

Brad is that you on the foto? Unfortunatelly we can't see the bird up close but one thing's for sure, the falconer looks much younger then. LOL
Just kidding mate.:-)
Sokoly

[MitchellBrad]

Brad is that you on the foto? Unfortunatelly we can't see the bird up close but one thing's for sure, the falconer looks much younger then. LOL
Just kidding mate.:-)
Sokoly

Yea, that's me. I don't have any decent tundra pictures except a couple of old ones of adults. In Wheeler's book "Raptors of Western North America" there are some pictures of some very blonde tundra falcons. If you can get the book you might compare the two subspecies. Maybe a library might have it. The Calidus looks browner but one would have to compare a lot of individuals.

I think those Calidus are great looking peregrines. And I think that subspecies hasn't been tainted by releases of mixed race peregrines unlike over here.

Brad

[QTR]

I'm impressed. Any chance of getting the weight on her. Grams will do :yawinkle:

Brad

Hi Brad
Sorry for the late delay answering your question because I was hunting outside the country for the last 8 days and I just arrive today sorry I couldn't get the weight because the falcon doesn't belong to me but in all cases it's a big falcon.

All The Best
Aziz

[MitchellBrad]

Hi Brad
Sorry for the late delay answering your question because I was hunting outside the country for the last 8 days and I just arrive today sorry I couldn't get the weight because the falcon doesn't belong to me but in all cases it's a big falcon.

All The Best
Aziz

Thanks for answering.

Brad

[QTR]

This is resent photo for my favorite female calidus three years old from my last hunting I will share it with you taken by my new camera canon 30D for the first time by the way the hunting weight for my falcon is 1070G

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/3c88e6cc2b.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

the same falcon with the corwan

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/0b96374dab.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

All the best
Aziz

[John Dumbar]

I'll save this photo on my pc if you do not mind...(?)
It's gorgeous.
Regards.
PS.Corwan means stone curlew?

[QTR]

I'll save this photo on my pc if you do not mind...(?)
It's gorgeous.
Regards.
PS.Corwan means stone curlew?

No i don't mind i have more if you need :supz:
all the best,
Aziz

[Mark Collins]

Hi, Aziz beautiful bird mate, cracking pictures, mark.

[QTR]

Hi, Aziz beautiful bird mate, cracking pictures, mark.

Thanks Mark, i'm pleased. :)

This is another one for you

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/a3e42d2bdb.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

All the best,
Aziz

[Wilfred]

No i don't mind i have more if you need :supz:
all the best,
Aziz

yes more!
Great peregrine falcon. And great hunting weight...

[SeagulBasher]

This is resent photo for my favorite female calidus three years old from my last hunting I will share it with you taken by my new camera canon 30D for the first time by the way the hunting weight for my falcon is 1070G

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/3c88e6cc2b.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

the same falcon with the corwan

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/0b96374dab.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

All the best
Aziz

hi aziz
looks like you had a good time on your hunting trip:lol:
thats a cracking looking falcon you've got there is that a normal sized houbara i thought they were alot bigger:confused:
all the best

colin

[Java Falconer]

Awesome, is this one big subspecies...?

[John Dumbar]

Dear Aziz you are VERY gifted photographer :
http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/9f05f34859.bmp
This is the best photo I've so far seen on FF
Regards.
Ps. How about this tiercel flying abilities, I suppose that they are destined to stone curlew hunting trips, what about its flying weight?

[QTR]

hi aziz
looks like you had a good time on your hunting trip:lol:
thats a cracking looking falcon you've got there is that a normal sized houbara i thought they were alot bigger:confused:
all the best

colin

thanks Colin i have get your pm, as for the photo it is for stone curlew


http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/9ab2a4edad.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

and this is for houbara

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/a69b9198da.jpg (http://www.m5zn.com)

All the best,
Aziz

[Altai]

Hi Aziz,
Where have you been hunting? Did you follow the houbara as they migrate north into Pakistan ?
All the best.

[QTR]

Hi Aziz,
Where have you been hunting? Did you follow the houbara as they migrate north into Pakistan ?
All the best.

Hi Dave
long time nothing heard from you I was hunting crowan for the last 7 days and I am going again for another 7 days before the end of my hunting season , any how I will call before I go.
All the best,
Aziz

[QTR]

Dear Aziz you are VERY gifted photographer :
http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/9f05f34859.bmp
This is the best photo I've so far seen on FF
Regards.
Ps. How about this tiercel flying abilities, I suppose that they are destined to stone curlew hunting trips, what about its flying weight?


Thanks for your kind comments, as for the tiecel yes we used mainly for stone curlew and the flying abilities is very good.
With my best regards,
Aziz

[QTR]

Hi Guys
Two photos I want to show you for the new arrival female calidus one during the hunting and the a ether one before going for malting by the way the hunting weight is 1045g I hope you like it.

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/eda6216e6a.bmp

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/64bdcb7f19.jpg

With my best regards,
Aziz

[John Dumbar]

Great beak and talons...
You there use only the best stuff.
Regards.

[QTR]

Great beak and talons...
You there use only the best stuff.
Regards.

Thanks for the nice comment, but we try very hard to go to the failed with the best we get.:lol:
With my regards,
Aziz

[Brian Sullivan]

Very beautiful Falcon! Who is breeding these beautiful large light colored Peregrines! Some of our Peales from the Southern stock are nearly this light but, only (Falco Peregrinus Tundrius) is this light in coloration. Some very light Cassini's were brought to the US from South America for breeding a few years ago. They are even lighter ( like white Hybrid color) but a little smaller then Tundrius.

Is this Peregrine fast like a Peales and how well does it climb?

[QTR]

Very beautiful Falcon! Who is breeding these beautiful large light colored Peregrines! Some of our Peales from the Southern stock are nearly this light but, only (Falco Peregrinus Tundrius) is this light in coloration. Some very light Cassini's were brought to the US from South America for breeding a few years ago. They are even lighter ( like white Hybrid color) but a little smaller then Tundrius.

Is this Peregrine fast like a Peales and how well does it climb?

Hi Brian ,
Thank you for your nice comment,all of them are wild pure peregrine .
As for the peales yes i tried some peales bred by someone in the state called Brian Sullivan , do you know this guy :lol: he has very nice peales,as for the stile the peales stile is smillar to the gyrs and the calidus its combination between the peales and the pure peregrines and they are very fast in the climb,

all the best ,
Aziz

[MitchellBrad]

Hi Brian ,
Thank you for your nice comment,all of them are wild pure peregrine .
As for the peales yes i tried some peales bred by someone in the state called Brian Sullivan , do you know this guy :lol: he has very nice peales,as for the stile the peales stile is smillar to the gyrs and the calidus its combination between the peales and the pure peregrines and they are very fast in the climb,

all the best ,
Aziz

Please start your own breeding program so we can get some of those:yawinkle: Clancy will have to import them then I'll get one from him. You hit it right on the money when you said peales style are like gyrs. I remember watching the last peales falcon I had pacing a sharptail out of the county. When my buddy asked if I thought she was going to get it my comment was, "I hope not!"

Very nice pictures!

Anyway at this point in my life I'm trying to learn gyrfalcon. After completing the 20 yr course in anatum I think I might just know something. In another 15 yrs I might know something about gyrfalcon:o

Brad

[QTR]

Please start your own breeding program so we can get some of those:yawinkle: Clancy will have to import them then I'll get one from him. You hit it right on the money when you said peales style are like gyrs. I remember watching the last peales falcon I had pacing a sharptail out of the county. When my buddy asked if I thought she was going to get it my comment was, "I hope not!"

Very nice pictures!

Anyway at this point in my life I'm trying to learn gyrfalcon. After completing the 20 yr course in anatum I think I might just know something. In another 15 yrs I might know something about gyrfalcon:o

Brad

Hi Brad
I think it's a good idea to start my own breeding which I already start I have right now two pair and I'll show you one of them as for the female wild calidus I have right now one she's three years old and if you find Brad for me proven tiercel from the state to encourage the wild female I should start, as for flying the gyrfalcon If you have the right place which I think you did it's great.

http://www.q6r.com/up/uploads/7125d071c9.jpg (http://www.q6r.com/up)

All the best
Aziz

[MitchellBrad]

Hi Brad
I think it's a good idea to start my own breeding which I already start I have right now two pair and I'll show you one of them as for the female wild calidus I have right now one she's three years old and if you find Brad for me proven tiercel from the state to encourage the wild female I should start, as for flying the gyrfalcon If you have the right place which I think you did it's great.

Aziz

I have 3 copulating tiercels, I think I don't want to part with any of them:eek: I learned my lesson when I gave a guy a copulating tiercel hoping to get a few back in return. I got one tiercel who I think might never get it right. If he doesn't court by next year he's out of here, he's 4 and in with a copulating falcon.. The problem is I didn't raise him myself and am afraid he was left in the brooder for too long. You can have him if he doesn't court the falcon;-) If she does go ahead and lays I just may strip him and inseminate her.

Brad

[QTR]

Hi guy's
I still have some pictures left for calidus pergrines but I thought it will be intersted to show you my photo with someone i'm sure some of you will recodnize him,this photo was taken during my last visit to scotland(november 2006)with a nice scottish pergrine therefore i'm looking for parent reared female scottish pergrine MORE THEN ONE should be(2.8 0z or more fat weight)for my hunting (2007)looking forward to hear from some one please reply by PM.

http://www.q6r.com/up/uploads/ba54f9a1ba.jpg (http://www.q6r.com/up)

All The Best
Aziz

[Barkai]

Hi Guys
Two photos I want to show you for the new arrival female calidus one during the hunting and the a ether one before going for malting by the way the hunting weight is 1045g I hope you like it.

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/eda6216e6a.bmp

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/64bdcb7f19.jpg

With my best regards,
Aziz

Thin feet!!!

Stephen

[Sokoly]

Barkai, they might be looking thin beause the size of the Callidus, but trust me they are capable of holding large quarry.
Sokoly

[Barkai]

Barkai, they might be looking thin beause the size of the Callidus, but trust me they are capable of holding large quarry.
Sokoly

I am probably just used to my lannar witch has big feet.

But when I think about it the are nice and big on the fist.

Stephen

[Sokoly]

What is the weight of your lanner? Is it African lanner or European? Callidus peregrines are one of the biggest peregrines there are.

[Rabbit Killer]

I know it wasn't ;-)

but gyr-sakerfalcon posted this!! "No S**T but even still seems a bit pointless to take birds from wild when these days it is completely un-necessary as there are more than enough being bred in captivity"

my point was why should they not take from the wild?

Increased bloodlines being one of the positives?

I agree with you L/Springer, there should be a controlled take along with Goshawks. I know some breeders who would even be prepared to swap wild with captive, take 2 and put 2 back, so that they are not depleting the wild stock, that would introduce new bloodlines, but theres one big obstacle in the way, and we all know who that is !!!!!!!!!!

[Roberto]

Hi guy's
I still have some pictures left for calidus pergrines but I thought it will be intersted to show you my photo with someone i'm sure some of you will recodnize him,this photo was taken during my last visit to scotland(november 2006)with a nice scottish pergrine therefore i'm looking for parent reared female scottish pergrine MORE THEN ONE should be(2.8 0z or more fat weight)for my hunting (2007)looking forward to hear from some one please reply by PM.

http://www.q6r.com/up/uploads/ba54f9a1ba.jpg (http://www.q6r.com/up)

All The Best
Aziz

I have seen a couple of peregrines bred by Alistair McKissock, very good falcons, large, dark and with good feet.

[CopperBarn]

Just in response to gyr-sakerfalcons post about why take wild when there are so many breeders about:

I personally would not promote the trapping of wild birds for falconry purposes, this may be because I have been brainwashed by the laws of the UK, but I have no problem with people from other countries doing it providing it is not illegal.

It takes skill and perseverance to trap a wild falcon, and in some countries this is recognised as an achievement so why not?

Afterall, 100% of all captive bred birds originate from wild caught birds. We are going back a while here, but you can't escape the past.

Lovely pictures by the way.

ATB

[Greg]

Just in response to gyr-sakerfalcons post about why take wild when there are so many breeders about:

I personally would not promote the trapping of wild birds for falconry purposes, this may be because I have been brainwashed by the laws of the UK, but I have no problem with people from other countries doing it providing it is not illegal.

It takes skill and perseverance to trap a wild falcon, and in some countries this is recognised as an achievement so why not?

Afterall, 100% of all captive bred birds originate from wild caught birds. We are going back a few centuries here, but you can't escape the past.

Lovely pictures by the way.

ATB

Going back a few centuries! For god sake 35yrs ago captive breeding was almost in the relms of science fiction! I took a Peregrine under licence in the 1980's time to read a few falconry history books!
Only kidding but you do make me feel bloody old!

[CopperBarn]

I've edited it now Greg, does that make you feel better? lol :lol: :-)

x xcb x x

[Redeye]

Going back a few centuries! For god sake 35yrs ago captive breeding was almost in the relms of science fiction! I took a Peregrine under licence in the 1980's time to read a few falconry history books!
Only kidding but you do make me feel bloody old!

And isn't that a reason to push for that right to be reinstated before it is just a distant memory, viewed as an eccentric way of obtaining a bird, and relegated for ever to the texts of old journals.

[Sokoly]

I have seen two different types of Callidus, a lighter and darker type, can someone explain that please?
Sokoly

[QTR]

Hi guys

Going back to this thread again wild female calidus last week in Saudi Arabia the trapped 3 peregrines that I would like show you there photos.

http://q6rr.com/uploads/2af366d3a0.jpg (http://q6rr.com)

http://q6rr.com/uploads/965758ad06.jpg (http://q6rr.com)

http://q6rr.com/uploads/67827aca5f.jpg (http://q6rr.com)



All the best,

Aziz

[Mark Collins]

Nice looking falcon.

[Ben Wallace]

Hi Aziz,
Top posts and pictures as usual. I love the pale falcons. I would love to put white gyr/peregrine semen into a pale calidus female to produce a white 3/4 peregrine 1/4 gyr. Something I will soon try with a light peales female I have

I hope your hunting trips have been very good. I know of one male peales/blackshaheen that is available, not sure of his history though, bit of a risk. He is quite the looker, full cap, white breast, very peales like with some other attributes.

Finding copulating male peregrines is like a needle in a haystack. Very often they are flown for a few years before breeding, this seems to increase there chances of copulation, a sort of stabilizing effect, however there are always exceptions. Any one with a copulating male, will be very reluctant to give it up, especially for what people will pay for a male peregrine.

We now have a device to ensure they do not copulate. Give me all the non-copulating peregrines out there, I need them to make gyr/peregrines. I sold one this year to a fellow that was asked to be on a hunting trip outside Qatar, with the Royal family of Qatar this fall, very soon. It will be interesting to hear how she does, she tackled some big quarry before she was shipped out, and was very aggressive. Good luck on the rest of your hunts. Keep the pic's coming

Sincerely,
Ben Wallace
www.shaheensolutions.com

[QTR]

Hi Aziz,
Top posts and pictures as usual. I love the pale falcons. I would love to put white gyr/peregrine semen into a pale calidus female to produce a white 3/4 peregrine 1/4 gyr. Something I will soon try with a light peales female I have

I hope your hunting trips have been very good. I know of one male peales/blackshaheen that is available, not sure of his history though, bit of a risk. He is quite the looker, full cap, white breast, very peales like with some other attributes.

Finding copulating male peregrines is like a needle in a haystack. Very often they are flown for a few years before breeding, this seems to increase there chances of copulation, a sort of stabilizing effect, however there are always exceptions. Any one with a copulating male, will be very reluctant to give it up, especially for what people will pay for a male peregrine.

We now have a device to ensure they do not copulate. Give me all the non-copulating peregrines out there, I need them to make gyr/peregrines. I sold one this year to a fellow that was asked to be on a hunting trip outside Qatar, with the Royal family of Qatar this fall, very soon. It will be interesting to hear how she does, she tackled some big quarry before she was shipped out, and was very aggressive. Good luck on the rest of your hunts. Keep the pic's coming

Sincerely,
Ben Wallace
www.shaheensolutions.com

Hi Ben

Thanks for your nice comments I think Ben if you have breeder like martin experience you could do lots of thinks but as you know the wild adult peregrines is very difficult breed however it’s the season now here in the golf for trapping the wild falcon but in Qatar we are not allow to trap any falcon above 1 year of age, just recently someone tried to bring with him adult female black shahhen but been stopped by the wild life here in Qatar with other birds and will be realest again to the wild I’ll try to get a photo for the black shahhen.
Here is another photo for the same bird that you like in the future I we’ll try to post photos for any wild peregrines trapped in our area that I can find.

http://q6rr.com/uploads/84cb395d66.jpg (http://q6rr.com)

All the best,
Aziz