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Mark Collins
18-12-2006, 10:00 PM
Hi , Just A Few Pictures Of My New Imprint Pens /mews.
Yeoman
18-12-2006, 10:02 PM
very tidy
Berkut
18-12-2006, 10:03 PM
They look the ******** Mark.
SnakeHuts
18-12-2006, 10:03 PM
Good looking pens Mark, any from the inside? Cheers kev
Game & Pursuit Falcon UK
18-12-2006, 10:03 PM
Solid roofs! Very sensible man.
TiercelJim
18-12-2006, 10:03 PM
Looks a smart set up,whats it like inside for sun light.
jim
Peregrine1
18-12-2006, 10:13 PM
Solid roofs! Very sensible man.
Very nice block indeed easy on the eye smart and clean a good professional look, I have solid roofs over half of my pens, I thing it pays for the falcons to get as much natural light as possible also its suprising how hot pens can become in the breeding season. If ventilation is poor.
Regards
Colin
ChewinTheFat0
18-12-2006, 10:18 PM
Solid roofs! Very sensible man.
I have clear corrugated pvc sheets on my new mews just put the roof on yesterday I have a galvanised wire mesh underneath for a bit of strength do you see me having any problems. I thought that would be the best option to get some natural light in there.
Sprout
18-12-2006, 10:23 PM
I have clear corrugated pvc sheets on my new mews just put the roof on yesterday I have a galvanised wire mesh underneath for a bit of strength do you see me having any problems. I thought that would be the best option to get some natural light in there.
PVC may let some light through but filters out certain wavelengths of light, meaning the bird is not exposed to "natural" sunlight. Only way to allow this is to give it "natural" sunlight ie not all the roof is covered. Some artificial lights come close.
Peregrine1
18-12-2006, 10:30 PM
PVC may let some light through but filters out certain wavelengths of light, meaning the bird is not exposed to "natural" sunlight. Only way to allow this is to give it "natural" sunlight ie not all the roof is covered. Some artificial lights come close.
I have found in the Breeding imprints in my case definitely fair better with a half exposed top.
Regards
Colin
Mark Collins
18-12-2006, 10:34 PM
Hi , i have put solid roofs on the top so they are completly weatherproof/frost proof , i have windows in the back of all the pens [barred ] with perches so the birds can see out as well as forward , change of scenary is good , the windows i am able to shut when the weather is bad , also i have power in all the pens , which will enable me to inseminate at god awfull times of the day rather than grope about in the dark , excuse the pun, in hot weather its surprising how a back window thats open creates a cool draft , its getting hotter every year it seems , also i have power points inside and in extreme temperatures i run cooling fans, be wary of this though , as this year i set one up in a pen for two young imprinted tiercels and the first thing one did was jump on top and you could hear the fan going around just clipping his talons through the wire cover , didnt bother him but had he had bigger feet or it been a falcon could have been nasty ,its surprising you think you have thought of everything and then something like this crops up , i placed a perch on top of the fan so they sat on that rather than the fan itself, cheers , mark.
ChewinTheFat0
18-12-2006, 10:34 PM
original plan was to leave one section of the roof with just the wire mesh but I read a couple of horror stories on here I think you were advising on 1 thread sprout about the harris that had its leg amputated because it went for something through the mesh and obviously done a lot of damage. I maybe used natural light instead of daylight. Have I gone for the wrong option? Its not to late to get back up and rip it down don't have a bird yet just trying to get a suitable mews sorted for when I get 1
Sprout
18-12-2006, 10:34 PM
I have found in the Breeding imprints in my case definitely fair better with a half exposed top.
Regards
Colin
Glass/PVC filters out the wavelength of light needed to convert inactivated vitamin D into the activated form - so has effects with calcium metabolism etc etc - obviously something v important with breeding!!
Sprout
18-12-2006, 10:37 PM
By the way Mark, nice build!! Very jealous.
Sprout
18-12-2006, 10:38 PM
original plan was to leave one section of the roof with just the wire mesh but I read a couple of horror stories on here I think you were advising on 1 thread sprout about the harris that had its leg amputated because it went for something through the mesh and obviously done a lot of damage. I maybe used natural light instead of daylight. Have I gone for the wrong option? Its not to late to get back up and rip it down don't have a bird yet just trying to get a suitable mews sorted for when I get 1
Why not start your own thread and post some pics of your mews, be easier for everyone to advise then.
ChewinTheFat0
18-12-2006, 10:44 PM
Why not start your own thread and post some pics of your mews, be easier for everyone to advise then.
I was going to do that once I had it finished I've still got the barred windows to dress off properly and get the door right I don't like it at the moment it was just when I read that post about solid roofs I had to ask I thought I'd cocked it up.
Mark Collins
18-12-2006, 11:00 PM
Hi, a real problem with birds sittimg eggs can be mice or rats, nobody wants mice/rats anywere near there pens , but the problem can be a small one you may not even be aware of it , most rodents are more active at night , i was made aware of this by my brother who has raced pigeons for donkeys years , also he used to breed canaries , now at night as you do your rounds and everything is cosy and the birds are sitting tight, you retire, but in the night a poxy mouse, baby rat , gets into the aviary and runs across the bird thats sitting tight , she will stand up , and then this is were its a problem because she may not be able to see to get back on , the eggs chill , and when you go out in the morning to check before you have your bacon buttey shes sitting tight however she may have been off the eggs 4 or 5 hours , fertility goes down and they may not hatch ,if its a nightly occerance they wont hatch , so in my experience , the pens need to be vermin proof [thats why i went for solid roofs] or as some canaries,pigeon breeders do is leave a night light on , so if she gets of she can see to get back on , its not the getting off its the seeing to get back on thats the problem , it only takes one mouse , i had it years ago when i used to breed harris,s in the 80s , only these were rats tunneling in at night , they were stealing the bloody eggs, lost 2 of a clutch of 5 , a night light stopped that , the harrises started killing the rats as they came in , cheers , mark.
Dave Whitt
18-12-2006, 11:02 PM
Can we have some pics of the inside, by the way nice job.
Venividevenatio
19-12-2006, 07:15 AM
Did you work to a set of plans? It would be useful to me for a future guide, if you could show the plans, and the in and out (above?) pics.
Looks a great bit of work.....
Hacker
19-12-2006, 07:49 AM
Hi, a real problem with birds sittimg eggs can be mice or rats, nobody wants mice/rats anywere near there pens , but the problem can be a small one you may not even be aware of it , most rodents are more active at night , i was made aware of this by my brother who has raced pigeons for donkeys years , also he used to breed canaries , now at night as you do your rounds and everything is cosy and the birds are sitting tight, you retire, but in the night a poxy mouse, baby rat , gets into the aviary and runs across the bird thats sitting tight , she will stand up , and then this is were its a problem because she may not be able to see to get back on , the eggs chill , and when you go out in the morning to check before you have your bacon buttey shes sitting tight however she may have been off the eggs 4 or 5 hours , fertility goes down and they may not hatch ,if its a nightly occerance they wont hatch , so in my experience , the pens need to be vermin proof [thats why i went for solid roofs] or as some canaries,pigeon breeders do is leave a night light on , so if she gets of she can see to get back on , its not the getting off its the seeing to get back on thats the problem , it only takes one mouse , i had it years ago when i used to breed harris,s in the 80s , only these were rats tunneling in at night , they were stealing the bloody eggs, lost 2 of a clutch of 5 , a night light stopped that , the harrises started killing the rats as they came in , cheers , mark.
Mark,
Some good sensible advice here.
Forum members can only but learn from experienced members like yourself. Chambers looking good!
Game & Pursuit Falcon UK
19-12-2006, 10:42 AM
I have found in the Breeding imprints in my case definitely fair better with a half exposed top.
Regards
Colin
I just cant work with males in part open top pens. Rain water and semen mix dosent fertilize eggs well.
Peregrine1
19-12-2006, 02:11 PM
I just cant work with males in part open top pens. Rain water and semen mix dosent fertilize eggs well.
Thats why you stand under the half covered section :)
Regards
Colin
LongVVing
19-12-2006, 02:50 PM
Mark,
what birds are you planning to be producing during the coming breeding season.
Nice pens by the way!
Mark.
Mark Collins
19-12-2006, 08:47 PM
Hi pens made from plans in my head , planned as i went along, basically wooden frame set into concrete , each pen 8ft square, plywood all round , roof slopes a foot from back to front , window is barred for maximum light, liked to have used steel bars but couldnt find any at time of building , so settled for hard wood, shiplap cladding on outside to give it a better finnish , and guttering along front to stop water flowing into pens, felt tiles on roof, then painted with a good exterior paint, expensive but good protection long term , here is some internal pics, mark.
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