Talon ripped out

[Dagi]

flying my gyr saker this morning he landed on top of a post so i called him in did a few stoops to the lure and brought him down he had a splat of blood under his wing when i looked i found his middle talon had been ripped off just leaving the quick it was pumping like hell so covered up the injury as best as i could with a bandage i keep with me and rushed him to the vets got it cleaned and taped up and gave him antibiotics ..does any body know how long this type of injury takes to heel up

[Misty]

Hi, I've had this twice on a harris. once he ripped it right out like yours, second one got it bitten off by squirrel. Bled like bu**ery. Vet said it wouldn't grow back again. he was wrong, both times!. Both birds got full talons back, one is slightly wonky but you would never know, the other is as near perfect as you can get. Can't honestly remember how long it took but the quick was bandaged for a week, checked daily, then after a week it was left to harden but always badaged when they went out. I used that yellow elastic horse bandage as it matched his feet, I took it up and over the back ankle. He managed fine and it never stopped him hunting.
Good luck and let us know how he gets on:yawinkle:

[Sparkes]

Hey Dagi,

I've had this a few times too, On both my Gosses and a harris'! In the early stages of the injury I can recommend keeping the quik moist but covered until you see some sort of improvement with regards to new growth.. One vet I went to quarterised the quik to stop the bleeding and the talon grew back dead straight.. It's not nice to see the 'talon' bleeding but with the wet dressing under the bandage it will stay moist and a little bleeding is not such a bad thing as this means that the birds 'system' is trying to heal the wound properly which is whats required.. Try not to let the wound dry out in the early stages or really for as long as possible if you can.. I laid up both my injured Gosses and the talons grew back perfectly with no deformation whatsoever.. I am certainly not a vet and I'm only going by my own experience with alot of help and advice from Lawtons vets near me in Essex..

Best regards and good luck..


Neil.

[Dan Paradis]

It happened to my wife's kestrel at digit #2 and it grow back in about a month or so !

[young falconer]

hi m8 im not sure how long it will take to grow back prob a round a month or two just watch the growth of it as in some cases like others have put the talons grow back straight and not with a nice curve to it like it should do
all the best m8

luke

[Dan Paradis]

I remember one of my fe. anatum of not being so lucky thow...had to rely on surgery because the wound involved to far back the talon and got infected. But still the bird is flying well after all. Thanks to my vet, she did a great job.

[BlackHawke]

i had this happen to my harris last year. her talon grew back took a good 8-10 months though.i think the secret to it growing back is not to damage the nail bed, quick not to much ofa problem, this will dry out and disapear.

what i did and would suggest is buy some germolene new skin, this will clean it and protect the nail bed keep on applying layers of it until its good and hard.

[Dagi]

thanks for all your input i did not realise it was that common

[Harris]

Neil Forbes reccomends the use of Nu-gel, it protects the wound from infection apply it after treating the toe with Pottasium Permangenate to sterilise it.

[BlackHawke]

just make sure its not infected then apply new skin which is mainly alcohol which is an excellent antiseptic

[Sprout]

Keep the granulation tissue/nail bed moist using or if you dress it use something like hydrogel/granuflex. Preventing infection is the main concern, I always cover with anti-biotics. You can also cover the quick with newskin from the chemists to protect it. Depending on what damage has been done to the germinal epithelium will affect how the nail re-grows.

[Marie1334]

asked the vet what she suggested and came up with a silver nitrate pencil, hope i never have to use it but got one to carry with us just incase! you can get them from chemist's aswell £3.50::)

[Misty]

i could never get them to work. i prefer potassium permangamate, messy but very effective.

[Albie]

My Nimbus lost almost all of one of his claws on the last flight of last season,
We stemmed the blood with super glue and now it's almost three quarters grown back.
My Thanks as always to Coney Catcher and his Lamp on a dark night and my Telemetry we got him back after he went fly about.
Albie..

[Sprout]

i could never get them to work. i prefer potassium permangamate, messy but very effective.

True, pot permanganate works well. Unfortunately for me chemical cautery pencils also work, a bit too well. Had one in my pocket, got soaked flushing snipe, cautery pencil leaked when wet and cauterised the tissue next to my pocket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!n Lets just say it is a bit swollen and greyish at the moment!!!

[Misty]

True, pot permanganate works well. Unfortunately for me chemical cautery pencils also work, a bit too well. Had one in my pocket, got soaked flushing snipe, cautery pencil leaked when wet and cauterised the tissue next to my pocket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!n Lets just say it is a bit swollen and greyish at the moment!!!

that's the trouble with these newbies, no common sense:lol: :lol: :lol: