Pitch and Pursuit

[LanczSpringer]

I was initially just thinking about Perlin's.. suppose any long wing might apply though.

Is it possible to have a long wing perform both styles of flight?

I guess you could take a game hawk and make it a pursuit (crows etc) as it would lower its pitch and take a more direct line but could you do this the other way around?

Could one day you have a waiting on flight on pointed game then the next go after crows?

or a Perlin taking snipe from a pitch then hedgerow hawking?

[Dean]

Would only be feasable if you were'nt too serious about specifics! For instance, a gamehawk stooping out a crow before gaining position or a rookhawk checking at partridge!:roll: :-|

[Eznugud]

I have a pere x prairie here that would do it, on a Land Fill site she will fly out of the hood at crows……….she actually doesn’t like hunting that way she prefers to go up and stoop a quarry……

I am confident saying that she would catch a crow out of the hood on a Land Fill, then get her somewhere with a bit out lift and she would nail anything that would get up under her other than a crow…..so no fear of check…

Now I know that’s sounds bloody stupid but she would not check at a crow out side a land fill site unless it was sitting stationary on the floor directly beneath her, but would go out of her way and fly like something possessed if a pheasant got up.

[Miguel Gomez]

I can switch from Pursuit to Pitch with my Tiercel, by lowering and increasing the weight...for Crows/Gulls needs to be 1lbs 6 1/4oz to 1lbs 6 3/4oz @ the lower wieght is instant off glove in direct Pursiut, the higher will indirect fly or come on at hieght and stoop through flock...

1lbs 7oz will wait on, but if area not clear of black stuff will 50/50 have a go...

1lbs 7 1/2oz (Ignores Black Stuff) will wait on between 200' to 600' for Hedge-hunting or Tree-line hunted mainly at Woodpigeons(I know is sacrilege, but damn good fun)....good training for 'dessert'(the easier Partridge...)

Can guarantee if slipped near lake/pond with visible ducks on, will wait on like glue...

Probably opening a 'Can of Worms' but I have heard, that a good pursuit Falcon is the 'Creme de la Creme' and the failed Pursuit Falcon can still be relegated to make a good Game Hawk?

[Miguel Gomez]

Now I know that’s sounds bloody stupid but she would not check at a crow out side a land fill site unless it was sitting stationary on the floor directly beneath her, but would go out of her way and fly like something possessed if a pheasant got up.

I know what you mean, Its like Pheasant, Partridge or Duck is 'Dessert' for them

[Quiver]

I can switch from Pursuit to Pitch with my Tiercel, by lowering and increasing the weight...for Crows/Gulls needs to be 1lbs 6 1/4oz to 1lbs 6 3/4oz @ the lower wieght is instant off glove in direct Pursiut, the higher will indirect fly or come on at hieght and stoop through flock...

1lbs 7oz will wait on, but if area not clear of black stuff will 50/50 have a go...

1lbs 7 1/2oz (Ignores Black Stuff) will wait on between 200' to 600' for Hedge-hunting or Tree-line hunted mainly at Woodpigeons(I know is sacrilege, but damn good fun)....good training for 'dessert'(the easier Partridge...)

Can guarantee if slipped near lake/pond with visible ducks on, will wait on like glue...

Probably opening a 'Can of Worms' but I have heard, that a good pursuit Falcon is the 'Creme de la Creme' and the failed Pursuit Falcon can still be relegated to make a good Game Hawk?
hello miguel was going to put up about you and gomez but thought you would do a better job.

chris.:yawinkle:

[Miguel Gomez]

hello miguel was going to put up about you and gomez but thought you would do a better job.

chris.:yawinkle:

My written 'English' has always been ****

[Quiver]

My written 'English' has always been ****

thats cos your spanish:lol: :lol: :roll:

[Dean]

When i used to play with lanners,luggars and sakers years ago they all lent themselves to this! I knew no better and used to attempt to catch anything in any style! Thought i was the bollix!:confused:

[Miguel Gomez]

When i used to play with lanners,luggars and sakers years ago they all lent themselves to this! I knew no better and used to attempt to catch anything in any style! Thought i was the bollix!:confused:

I'm planning to split my birds season next year....GameHawking from September-November, Rest December-January...Blackstuff till end of May

Best of both worlds, did'nt quite work at begining of this season, Spar mucked all my time up

[MitchellBrad]

I was initially just thinking about Perlin's.. suppose any long wing might apply though.

Is it possible to have a long wing perform both styles of flight?

I guess you could take a game hawk and make it a pursuit (crows etc) as it would lower its pitch and take a more direct line but could you do this the other way around?

Could one day you have a waiting on flight on pointed game then the next go after crows?

or a Perlin taking snipe from a pitch then hedgerow hawking?

No crows here but I'm about ready to release a falcon which will go up or can be flown a the same quarry off the fist. Guess this doesn't count:o

[Ben C]

Just buy one for each quarry species.........:supz: :supz: :supz:

[Illustrator]

I was initially just thinking about Perlin's.. suppose any long wing might apply though.

Is it possible to have a long wing perform both styles of flight?

I guess you could take a game hawk and make it a pursuit (crows etc) as it would lower its pitch and take a more direct line but could you do this the other way around?

Could one day you have a waiting on flight on pointed game then the next go after crows?

or a Perlin taking snipe from a pitch then hedgerow hawking?

How about short wings? they too in the wild adopt both styles of flight, spars are often seen stooping from great heights especially on early mornings with a clear blue sky as it's as you know well known that they like to soar and have adapted different hunting techniques. one which i have noted recently when decoying woodpigeon is they attack from 25-40 feet up and flip into a vertical stoop directly above the target and out of 15 attacks only one came in low on a more traditional hunting technique.