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Wolf
09-04-2007, 01:15 AM
I decided to let one of my Imprints, a Female Saker (Hilda) lay and sit her clutch this year for the 1st time. She layed a total of 4 eggs........eventually !
She layed 3 eggs and sat relatively tight then skipped an egg and layed her 4th before sitting proper. I let her sit the clutch for 12 days and then pulled the clutch and set in the incubator, hoping she will double clutch.
During the natural incubation Hilda left the eggs on a couple of accasions eg, when I passed her food (rushing her grub to get back to the eggs), feet cooling sessions in the bath and to generally stretch her wings.

All was going well until my new neighbour started extending his pigeon loft !!!!!! :evil: the site of the neighbour dragging roofing felt and nailing sheets scared the **** out of her !! She left the ledge on a couple of occassions over the period of approx 2 hours. The neighbour is as good as gold and regularly hands over surplus pigeon meat and we swop the odd bird story or two (the feathered variety of course!!!! you never know the missus could read this !!) over the fence....you can t tell the bloke to get off his own loft....I had no choice than to perservere !!!
The building at roof level only took 1 day so the disruption was minimal, thank f---, :-|
I have a 6 ft fence that screens my imprint chambers but this runs a fair old distance from the pens so any disturbance above 7ft at the wrong time of year (breeding season) could spell disaster...and Ive been threatening to build a closer screen for a few yrs now and as the old addage says if it could happen it will happen and this is a good example!!:rolleyes:

Fearing the worst I plucked up the courage and candled the eggs tonight and they all appear fertile, only the last egg , the one after she skipped shows early stages of fertility half shading but no clear vein or embryo developement, so far so good, just need to hatch them all out now...............................
Fingers crossed we will have 4 healthy Peregrine Sakers from this clutch..I will keep you posted :supz:

Good luck,
Andy




Onyx25
09-04-2007, 03:23 AM
I decided to let one of my Imprints, a Female Saker (Hilda) lay and sit her clutch this year for the 1st time. She layed a total of 4 eggs........eventually !
She layed 3 eggs and sat relatively tight then skipped an egg and layed her 4th before sitting proper. I let her sit the clutch for 12 days and then pulled the clutch and set in the incubator, hoping she will double clutch.
During the natural incubation Hilda left the eggs on a couple of accasions eg, when I passed her food (rushing her grub to get back to the eggs), feet cooling sessions in the bath and to generally stretch her wings.

All was going well until my new neighbour started extending his pigeon loft !!!!!! :evil: the site of the neighbour dragging roofing felt and nailing sheets scared the **** out of her !! She left the ledge on a couple of occassions over the period of approx 2 hours. The neighbour is as good as gold and regularly hands over surplus pigeon meat and we swop the odd bird story or two (the feathered variety of course!!!! you never know the missus could read this !!) over the fence....you can t tell the bloke to get off his own loft....I had no choice than to perservere !!!
The building at roof level only took 1 day so the disruption was minimal, thank f---, :-|
I have a 6 ft fence that screens my imprint chambers but this runs a fair old distance from the pens so any disturbance above 7ft at the wrong time of year (breeding season) could spell disaster...and Ive been threatening to build a closer screen for a few yrs now and as the old addage says if it could happen it will happen and this is a good example!!:rolleyes:

Fearing the worst I plucked up the courage and candled the eggs tonight and they all appear fertile, only the last egg , the one after she skipped shows early stages of fertility half shading but no clear vein or embryo developement, so far so good, just need to hatch them all out now...............................
Fingers crossed we will have 4 healthy Peregrine Sakers from this clutch..I will keep you posted :supz:

Good luck,
Andy
Good luck andy better than my pere x sakers so far !

Wolf
09-04-2007, 12:47 PM
Good luck andy better than my pere x sakers so far !


Plenty of time titus, catch her on the 2nd clutch..............:supz:

GosHawking2Day
10-04-2007, 01:17 PM
Good luck with the pere x sakers Andy, how's the gos doing??

ATB

Gerard.

Wolf
10-04-2007, 11:51 PM
Good luck with the pere x sakers Andy, how's the gos doing??

ATB

Gerard.

Not too bad mate, shes still alarm calling then at the same time she will chup back on response with coverts flared. At the moment she is still not comfortable with me in the aviary, I ve nest built for her and she takes great delight in taking it apart again!! :roll:
No standing posture at the moment either.......I guess I 'll have to be patient I suppose.
Hows things in your kneck of the woods ?:supz:
Cheers,

Andy

GosHawking2Day
11-04-2007, 04:44 PM
Not too bad mate, shes still alarm calling then at the same time she will chup back on response with coverts flared. At the moment she is still not comfortable with me in the aviary, I ve nest built for her and she takes great delight in taking it apart again!! :roll:
No standing posture at the moment either.......I guess I 'll have to be patient I suppose.
Hows things in your kneck of the woods ?:supz:
Cheers,

Andy

Easter came today mate, Fin Gos laid her first egg this morning so I'm chuffed about that but now the doubt sets in...is it fertile??been inseminating her for over a week so should be OK. Not gonna mess about pulling them, whatever she lays in this clutch I'll leave with her and she can sit them full term.
ATB,
Gerard.

Wolf
11-04-2007, 09:22 PM
Easter came today mate, Fin Gos laid her first egg this morning so I'm chuffed about that but now the doubt sets in...is it fertile??been inseminating her for over a week so should be OK. Not gonna mess about pulling them, whatever she lays in this clutch I'll leave with her and she can sit them full term.
ATB,
Gerard.

Cracking news !!
I totally agree with letting her do the incubation, no point upsetting her cycle, Gosman 2 does the same with good results.....4 out of 4 fertile last year and good strong youngsters,
I m waiting for my peregrine to relay after her first egg , I always let her lay one egg before inseminating....shes taking her time on the second egg :roll:
Best of luck,
Andy

SeagulBasher
11-04-2007, 09:48 PM
Cracking news !!
I totally agree with letting her do the incubation, no point upsetting her cycle, Gosman 2 does the same with good results.....4 out of 4 fertile last year and good strong youngsters,
I m waiting for my peregrine to relay after her first egg , I always let her lay one egg before inseminating....shes taking her time on the second egg :roll:
Best of luck,
Andy

i take it the peregrine has laid then :confused:

Wolf
11-04-2007, 11:46 PM
As per pm, :supz:

Andy

Wolf
13-04-2007, 11:14 PM
Candled Pere saker eggs tonight from Hilda(Saker)........one developing well,
2 showing half shading but very slow developing, could they have chilled when bird was spooked ??? will leave in incubator for duration just in case and 4th egg not fertile...
Wont make same mistake next yr ! Ill make sure screen is in place well before breeding season...:roll:

Andy