price on eagles

[danni...]

hi, i was just wondering if any one could tell me how much golden eagles cost? im not after buying one but i am interested in finding out a rough price of them, also what is the biggest prey they can take?

[nick redwood]

goldies go for £2700 for a male and £3500 for female

[MickeyDredd]

goldies go for £2700 for a male and £3500 for female


From which breeder?

[Accipter-Gentilis]

goldies go for £2700 for a male and £3500 for female

them prices do seem cheap;-)

[RWR]

From which breeder?

Mike you can get a male Goldie from Rex Merit for £2500.

[MickeyDredd]

Mike you can get a male Goldie from Rex Merit for £2500.

No thanks Russ ;) :lol:

I know they can be had for those prices from the continent but that certainly isnt the price from UK based breeders as far as I'm aware so perhaps a range of £2,500-£4,500 for a male and £3,500-£5,000 for a female may be nearer the mark on average, depending on where they are sourced from.

Cheers
Mike

[Mr_Colin]

Neil has far too much money then:lol:

[Mac]

i know of a bloke who got a golden from the czech republic for two pairs of harris hawks and less than a grand in cash.

the bird is stunning, very dark in colour with a nice golden head. the lad in question has only flown a couple of birds and it did apparently test the boundaries for the first couple of weeks but he seems to have clicked with this bird. and its doing well.

[RWR]

No thanks Russ ;) :lol:

I know they can be had for those prices from the continent but that certainly isnt the price from UK based breeders as far as I'm aware so perhaps a range of £2,500-£4,500 for a male and £3,500-£5,000 for a female may be nearer the mark on average, depending on where they are sourced from.

Cheers
Mike

Well Mike Tony scotts goldies all came from Rex and they all were very good birds and 100% pareant reared they turned it to very good hunters

[GDN]

goldies go for £2700 for a male and £3500 for female

And to think a few years back you were looking at £5000 for a goldie.

I wonder what the price will be in 5 years time.

Any guesses - males under £2000 and females under £3000 - getting a bit scary

[Berkut]

You get what you pay for as far as I am concerned . The problem from getting them from the continent is you are not always guaranteed how they have been reared and I knew of one guy took an eagle out the box and was nearly in tears at the feather condition and took nearly 3 years for it to be feather perfect.
I,ll stick to paying that bit extra and driving 40 minutes down the road to pick mine up from Andrew Knowles-Brown who I know I can trust 100%.

Far too many people expressing an interest in golden eagles.Unfortunately although you all enjoy my threads on eagles ,maybe I am partly responsible for putting too much info on here. The end result can look easy but some people don,t realise the blood.sweat ,tears and total committment in doing eagles justice.

[Berkut]

Neil has far too much money then:lol:

Not too much money Colin , just got my priorities wrong , or right , depending how you look at it.;)

[Mr_Colin]

Far too many people expressing an interest in golden eagles.Unfortunately although you all enjoy my threads on eagles ,maybe I am partly responsible for putting too much info on here. The end result can look easy but some people don,t realise the blood.sweat ,tears and total committment in doing eagles justice.

Dont you dare let that stop you though Neil. Anyone who takes on an Eagle without sufficient knowledge/experience in Falconry and the land to fly one on is a fool.

[Mr_Colin]

Not too much money Colin , just got my priorities wrong , or right , depending how you look at it.;)

Or should I have said that you used to have too much money, until you took up flying Goldies:lol:

[Pitbull]

it was funny, how many people seemed to be a friend as such when I was looking for an eagle. Now I ain't getting 1 I never here from them. I must have been offered about 4 eagles from people that I have never met or spoken to, but recieved emails from.
At the moment with the little info that I have recieved from various people. Its a scary thought thinking of exactly where the eagles from and how it was brought up.

[TLDWB]

There's only two ways to control who has the privilege of flying Goldie's. One is to keep the price up, this will put a percentage of the wrong sort of, but is hardly the correct method of dissecting the good from the bad falconers.

The other way is to put in place a system like what's in operation in the states.

This comes from someone in the past who got the chance to train his first Goldie, which I didn't own(couldn't afford to by him) and perhaps at the time wasn't ready for one. Still I think I done a good job!


Tom

[Coronatus]

There's only two ways to control who has the privilege of flying Goldie's. One is to keep the price up, this will put a percentage of the wrong sort of, but is hardly the correct method of dissecting the good from the bad falconers.

The other way is to put in place a system like what's in operation in the states.

This comes from someone in the past who got the chance to train his first Goldie, which I didn't own(couldn't afford to by him) and perhaps at the time wasn't ready for one. Still I think I done a good job!


Tom


For me personally the dropping prices is a good thing!! :roll: Though through flying them at a centre i worked at i know just whats involved soo i know whats involved and my circumstances will have to change before i take on a hunting eagle! Hats off to those that do these birds justice, yourself, Neil etc. The downside is the number of people they become available to, though in MHO keeping the prices high wont stop people lacking in experience etc getting their hands on them, money alone doesnt make a good falconer! I believe the way forward is definately legislation of some form(for ALL birds). May seem like agro but will def sort those with the commitment from the messers! Regards James.

[GDN]

Keeping the price high is not the answer. If someone really wants 1 they will get no matter what the price.

How many idiots do you see driving big cars

[EnjoyIt]

Dont you dare let that stop you though Neil. Anyone who takes on an Eagle without sufficient knowledge/experience in Falconry and the land to fly one on is a fool.

Do you mean any BOP ?

[LongVVing]

There's only two ways to control who has the privilege of flying Goldie's. One is to keep the price up, this will put a percentage of the wrong sort of, but is hardly the correct method of dissecting the good from the bad falconers.

The other way is to put in place a system like what's in operation in the states.

This comes from someone in the past who got the chance to train his first Goldie, which I didn't own(couldn't afford to by him) and perhaps at the time wasn't ready for one. Still I think I done a good job!


Tom

I guess keeping the price up from a probability point of view could be a deterrent as there are probably less rich twats than poor twats. Having said that this type of deterrent is famous for creating black markets for people determined enough.

I agree with you on this Tom, there needs to be a system in place aswell as just a price deterrent. Aswell as unsuitable owners you also want to prevent birds with dodgy or completely unknown backgrounds becoming available.

Mark.

[Rabbit Killer]

You get what you pay for as far as I am concerned . The problem from getting them from the continent is you are not always guaranteed how they have been reared and I knew of one guy took an eagle out the box and was nearly in tears at the feather condition and took nearly 3 years for it to be feather perfect.
I,ll stick to paying that bit extra and driving 40 minutes down the road to pick mine up from Andrew Knowles-Brown who I know I can trust 100%.

Far too many people expressing an interest in golden eagles.Unfortunately although you all enjoy my threads on eagles ,maybe I am partly responsible for putting too much info on here. The end result can look easy but some people don,t realise the blood.sweat ,tears and total committment in doing eagles justice.

Neil,

You,re post is spot on regarding to many people showing an interest in Goldies.
When will people realise they are a bird requiring massive commitment and a vast flying ground.

I talk from experience having been out with Tony Scott and his Goldie a few times. Unless I'm wrong and stand to be corrected, they need to be taken to ground well away from livestock and the general public out with dogs etc.

When I went out with Tony and his Goldie we drove 20 miles into the Cheviots, so that there was no danger of any accidents.

They are not a Harris hawk ! They are not Redtail nor a Ferruginous !
They are an awesome killing machine and not for the average Falconer.

To all you showing an interest in Goldies, speak to the people who know best. Berkut as he posts on here, Tony Scott, aka ( Belle), their advice is invaluable.

[Chase0109]

Neil,

You,re post is spot on regarding to many people showing an interest in Goldies.
When will people realise they are a bird requiring massive commitment and a vast flying ground.

I talk from experience having been out with Tony Scott and his Goldie a few times. Unless I'm wrong and stand to be corrected, they need to be taken to ground well away from livestock and the general public out with dogs etc.

When I went out with Tony and his Goldie we drove 20 miles into the Cheviots, so that there was no danger of any accidents.

They are not a Harris hawk ! They are not Redtail nor a Ferruginous !
They are an awesome killing machine and not for the average Falconer.

To all you showing an interest in Goldies, speak to the people who know best. Berkut as he posts on here, Tony Scott, aka ( Belle), their advice is invaluable.


I thought I'd chime in on two ideas posted in this thread. The first being vast flying ground required for eagles. I 100% agree that flying in desolate areas is best if you have the option. But it isn't a set in stone requirement. Rather than requiring vast flying ground it could be stated you need good amounts of proper game. If you're going soar hawk an eagle then yes you had better have lots of open ground. But for fist hawking it isn't all that necessary. I have a good friend who is the most successful eagle falconer in the US, game catching wise. He flies his eagles where ever the game is. Next to housing developments, industrial lots, behind McDonalds, ect. Why? Because that is where the jacks are at. So yes we would all love to fly in the middle no where with tons of hares (like where Neil flies). But in all honesty vast uninhabited areas are not as important as skill, experience, knowledge, commitment, and dedication.

The second idea of a permitting system like we have in the US. Our permitting system has its ups and downs. It is good and bad at the same time. You can't buy your way into eagle falconry in the US. But you can wait your way in. There is alot of red tape involved but anyone who is persistent enough can wade through it and get an eagle permit after being a licensed falconer for 7 years. So it is alot better than nothing, but not fool proof. I really have no idea of how to set up a better system without creating a good old boys club. The upside to our system is would dissuade most people who just want an eagle as a lawn ornament. The time commitment alone to apply for a permit is huge.

Chase

[Berkut]

I thought I'd chime in on two ideas posted in this thread. The first being vast flying ground required for eagles. I 100% agree that flying in desolate areas is best if you have the option. But it isn't a set in stone requirement. Rather than requiring vast flying ground it could be stated you need good amounts of proper game. If you're going soar hawk an eagle then yes you had better have lots of open ground. But for fist hawking it isn't all that necessary. I have a good friend who is the most successful eagle falconer in the US, game catching wise. He flies his eagles where ever the game is. Next to housing developments, industrial lots, behind McDonalds, ect. Why? Because that is where the jacks are at. So yes we would all love to fly in the middle no where with tons of hares (like where Neil flies). But in all honesty vast uninhabited areas are not as important as skill, experience, knowledge, commitment, and dedication.

The second idea of a permitting system like we have in the US. Our permitting system has its ups and downs. It is good and bad at the same time. You can't buy your way into eagle falconry in the US. But you can wait your way in. There is alot of red tape involved but anyone who is persistent enough can wade through it and get an eagle permit after being a licensed falconer for 7 years. So it is alot better than nothing, but not fool proof. I really have no idea of how to set up a better system without creating a good old boys club. The upside to our system is would dissuade most people who just want an eagle as a lawn ornament. The time commitment alone to apply for a permit is huge.

Chase

Chase,
Very good post . The best part of your system is it gets rid of the dabblers as you say. If you really want an eagle, you will wait till you can get one,and it will be worth the wait.
In the UK the situation is absolutely ridiculous. You can see an eagle at a centre or zoo one day and literally have one tethered on your lawn the next.
I don,t know what the answer is but something has to be done.
Neil.

[Agent D.]

you could argue that if we see a continuation on the owning a goldie theme, the result will be a all too common "unthinaising (spelling:oops: )" of these creatures as a result of inexperienced keepers turning them into unhandleable unflyable beasts.... its daft (and i will stand corrected) but they appear on the dangerous animals act, yet there is no controll \ licensing on the ownership?

[Agent D.]

There's only two ways to control who has the privilege of flying Goldie's. One is to keep the price up, this will put a percentage of the wrong sort of, but is hardly the correct method of dissecting the good from the bad falconers.

The other way is to put in place a system like what's in operation in the states.

This comes from someone in the past who got the chance to train his first Goldie, which I didn't own(couldn't afford to by him) and perhaps at the time wasn't ready for one. Still I think I done a good job!


Tom


yep he was awesome!.... what a waste.:x

[Miguel Gomez]

When they get below £1000, they will make cheap penis extensions and great fist jewellery or garden ornaments...

[Redeye]

I thought I'd chime in on two ideas posted in this thread. The first being vast flying ground required for eagles. I 100% agree that flying in desolate areas is best if you have the option. But it isn't a set in stone requirement. Rather than requiring vast flying ground it could be stated you need good amounts of proper game. If you're going soar hawk an eagle then yes you had better have lots of open ground. But for fist hawking it isn't all that necessary. I have a good friend who is the most successful eagle falconer in the US, game catching wise. He flies his eagles where ever the game is. Next to housing developments, industrial lots, behind McDonalds, ect. Why? Because that is where the jacks are at. So yes we would all love to fly in the middle no where with tons of hares (like where Neil flies). But in all honesty vast uninhabited areas are not as important as skill, experience, knowledge, commitment, and dedication.



I would have thought the whole point in flying an eagle or any other bird is to see it perform to the best of its natural abilities. Flying an eagle off the fist in an industrial setting at rabbits seems to me to be as far from ideal as is humanly possible. If your permission is in such an area why fly an eagle? Surely you would have far more fun with a hawk of some species. Not forgetting the ever present dangers such as power boxes etc which would also be more prevalent and infinitely more risky to an eagle sized bird.
Flying an eagle or any other bird should not be solely about how much game is caught but the spectacle and the quality of flight must surely be foremost.

[Richard]

Far too many people expressing an interest in golden eagles.Unfortunately although you all enjoy my threads on eagles ,maybe I am partly responsible for putting too much info on here. The end result can look easy but some people don,t realise the blood.sweat ,tears and total committment in doing eagles justice.

Or maybe you make people aware of the requirements to own, train and hunt a golden eagle properly, without people like you making this known to us would there not be a lot more people than there already is doing trial and error?

Some dreams should stay exactly that, a dream. If somethings worth doing its worth doing properly ;-)

[D Thomas]

I belive it would be great if there was a school of eagle falconry were if you would want to train and hunt with a eagle you would need to pass certain levels to be able to fly/hunt with one.

If the falconer is that passionate about the eagle they will go to great lenths to accomplish the level for eagle falconry, also there should again be a cost for this training witch should pay for all equpiment and trainers, and any other profit for falconry related ventures.

obviously you will need to pass a day course for entry to the eagle falconry course, and will be sent details of pass or failure.

sorry just thinking out loud!!!!!:rolleyes: