Martial Eagles

[Belle]

Anybody Out There Flying A Martial Eagle

This Is One I Flew Several Years Ago

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Male Eagle (imported From Africa) On Block 33410

Flying To Fist In Training

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33414Latching On To Fox

[Agent D.]

give me a B,
give me a U
give me a R
give me a .........

watch this space?

[Horus 361]

amazing pictures,
i bet he was fun to fly,
what weight was he?
what did he take when you were hunting him?
thanks
H361

[Sophie]

ive flown one but not hunted one.
i spend a lot of time with it. they are such a striking eagle i have to say one of my favorites, its the freaky reptile look they have about them i like :D
heres a pic.....

[Avic]

Wow!!!!! I first thought it was taking a hare then realized how big the bird actually is when I realized it was a fox!!!! i saw a pair of them in south Africa very high though and they are MASSIVE!!!!

[Belle]

amazing pictures,
i bet he was fun to fly,
what weight was he?
what did he take when you were hunting him?
thanks
H361

HI,
I FLEW HIM AT RABBITS ,HARE AND FOX, ITS FLYING WEIGHT WAS JUST OVER 9 LBS. UNFORTUNATELY ONE DAY HE MISJUDGED A STOOP AND CRASHED INTO THE HILLSIDE AND DIED A FEW DAYS LATER DUE TO TWISTED INTESTINES BURSTING OPEN

TONY

[Avic]

Any one know what they sell for over hear?? Or more importantly if any one breeds them?

[Gary F]

great pics,thats was one awsum eagle,

[Avic]

HI,
I FLEW HIM AT RABBITS ,HARE AND FOX, ITS FLYING WEIGHT WAS JUST OVER 9 LBS. UNFORTUNATELY ONE DAY HE MISJUDGED A STOOP AND CRASHED INTO THE HILLSIDE AND DIED A FEW DAYS LATER DUE TO TWISTED INTESTINES BURSTING OPEN

TONY

How would you compare him to a goldie?? temperment, hunting ability?

[Pearl]

bloody hell fire what can you say :supz: fantastic mate :supz: some proper feet lol:supz:

[Eagle Dares]

We fly a male. He flies at 6lb 6oz. He caught 4 rabbits while we were still training him on the creance. He is an import from Rex Merrit in Southampton. Not sure what price they are normally because we got ours in a bulk deal with a bateleur, and a white tailed. He has a cracking temperament but he is extremely sticky-footed. They are amazingly strong as other members of this forum who have martials will tell you. If one gets hold of you (even through the glove), you know about it.

[MusketMad]

We have three martials ..i fly one every day in demos but would love to unleash him on some real quarry ..he has had a fox and a hare since we have had him...the other two have been put into breed and my fingers are tightly crossed ..the male flys at 7lb 6oz and has a fantastic temprement and apparently this is the case with most of them...a mate of mine has just bought a female and hes going to hunt it this year ..as for the price its a bit of a grey area ..ive been told the price of martials could rocket to a possible 15 k in years to come but its all hearsay at the moment ...i think people are currently paying anything from 6 to 12 k at the present time BUT DONT QUOTE ME ON THIS:lol:

[HawkEagle]

What weight does female matial eagle fly?

[Belle]

mine flew just on 9lbs. I thought she was a male but I could have been wrong

Tony

[Finnish]

I dont fly one but a good friend does. I can go out with him any time. Pic's will follow...

[Finnish]

On hare...

[Finnish]

More....

[PitBullOne]

great pics ,i doubt your bird was male and flying \hunting at 9 lbs/
presently buying a matial male ,when i get it neil willbe imprinting it for me,hpoefully this will leave the bird less vunerable to asper,and transfer some of of the sibling motivated aggression,

[Tanin]

impressive...

[Avic]

Excuse my ignorance but the fist bird in the pics is a different color. Is this a male/female difference or immature plumage maybe??

[Fudge100]

i don't know anything about the martial eagle but jpj in her book falconry shows a picture of one and she states(not suitable for falconry in the uk or anywhere else unless you are in sane!) what would you say to that?

[Kentish Falconry]

i don't know anything about the martial eagle but jpj in her book falconry shows a picture of one and she states(not suitable for falconry in the uk or anywhere else unless you are in sane!) what would you say to that?

I would say that JPJ has made an error of judgement in this case :lol: :lol:

[Fudge100]

it would not be the first time as she does seem to contradict herself from book to book.

[MusketMad]

great pics ,i doubt your bird was male and flying \hunting at 9 lbs/
presently buying a matial male ,when i get it neil willbe imprinting it for me,hpoefully this will leave the bird less vunerable to asper,and transfer some of of the sibling motivated aggression,Ill be honest with you mate i dont think they need imprinting as they are not aggressive birds ..you ask anyone who has flown one ...plus if you keep it parent reared you have great breeding prospects in the future..and the way martial prices are going up :wink:

[MusketMad]

Excuse my ignorance but the fist bird in the pics is a different color. Is this a male/female difference or immature plumage maybe??
first one is immature

[Rabbit Killer]

i don't know anything about the martial eagle but jpj in her book falconry shows a picture of one and she states(not suitable for falconry in the uk or anywhere else unless you are in sane!) what would you say to that?

Dont believe everything she says !!!!!
Nevertheless, I wouldn't be forking out thousands of pounds for an eagle that couldn't do much more than a big female Harris or Gos. ( except the fox of course )

This is just my opinion, but how many people show a fancy for one of these things, just so they can be seen with a big impressive Eagle sat on their fist.

[Barry]

I'd run with that. Apart from breeding with an imprint you may laying around somewhere I would venture that there is absolutely no gain whatsoever in imprinting a Martial and a whole lot of potential for things to go wrong. Just my opinion but I'd suggest it is an unnecessary mistake.

Barry.

[Finnish]

The Martial I have put pic's up is P/r and is as steady as a Hh on the glove and with others. I don't see why ppl would want to imprint one.

[Avic]

first one is immature


Thats a shame i prefer that color to the adult plumage!

[Berkut]

As far as I have heard there are plenty of people paid good money for Martial eagles in the past and they have died of Asper. I dare say a female could be a bigger problem but a male would be far more managable as an imprint,especially if it is done properley.

[Barry]

Hi Neil, from my understanding very few of the Martials that came in died, and they were of course wild taken so Asper could be an issue. Those coming around now are captive bred and should be like the other surviving wild taken birds, steady, calm and very comfortable around man. I viewed a captive bred female that is three that has now been sold and is in training. Although she had not been trained at all she was very calm, steady and non-aggressive - best of health too.

Barry.

[Berkut]

Hi Neil, from my understanding very few of the Martials that came in died, and they were of course wild taken so Asper could be an issue. Those coming around now are captive bred and should be like the other surviving wild taken birds, steady, calm and very comfortable around man. I viewed a captive bred female that is three that has now been sold and is in training. Although she had not been trained at all she was very calm, steady and non-aggressive - best of health too.

Barry.

Valid points Barry which I tend to agree with , but done properley in the "swap imprint" scenario I think an imprint male martial could be a good prospect.

[PitBullOne]

Ill be honest with you mate i dont think they need imprinting as they are not aggressive birds ..you ask anyone who has flown one ...plus if you keep it parent reared you have great breeding prospects in the future..and the way martial prices are going up :wink:

clearly youre not with the programme here chaps,you say\i dont think they need imprinting as they are not aggresive? pr will always be lss aggresive than imprint, 5 out of seven martials bought in died of asper.\that might in itself be enough of a reason barry!,has any body heard of ai,Asthese birds are so prone to this disease i think this is the only way to go,also in the areas the bird will be flownthe imprint behaviour wil be advantageous,
also speak to steve on the forum who was convinced,that his male was going to die several times during manning,the bird whent into shoch more than once .the route we are taking with this bird is not a method we have plucked out of the air it is the considered descision,and the result of some years experience,niel is the only man on the planet i would leave the bird with,and i consider what he is to do a great favour.hope this makes things a littlemore clear chaps as we have thought about this alot.

[HawkEagle]

I dont think there is right or wrong ans here just what suits you best. I personally prefer hand reared but it has to be done properly enough time must be spent socialising with the bird otherwise you could end up with food imprint in that case p/r will be alot better. I have seen a male martial eagle 5yrs ago in musketmad's place eagle height and I must the bird looks fav.

[MusketMad]

clearly youre not with the programme here chaps,you say\i dont think they need imprinting as they are not aggresive? pr will always be lss aggresive than imprint, 5 out of seven martials bought in died of asper.\that might in itself be enough of a reason barry!,has any body heard of ai,Asthese birds are so prone to this disease i think this is the only way to go,also in the areas the bird will be flownthe imprint behaviour wil be advantageous,
also speak to steve on the forum who was convinced,that his male was going to die several times during manning,the bird whent into shoch more than once .the route we are taking with this bird is not a method we have plucked out of the air it is the considered descision,and the result of some years experience,niel is the only man on the planet i would leave the bird with,and i consider what he is to do a great favour.hope this makes things a littlemore clear chaps as we have thought about this alot.Didnt mean to sound patronising mate ...it was just my opinion ..we have three wild caught martials and have never had a problem with health or when manning...of course you can AI the birds but i dont think there are that many about...not imprint ones anyway...anyway like you said its not a decision that you have made overnight and i wish you luck ...im quite sure that neil would make a good job of it after speaking to him at the ff...

[CopperBarn]

Sorry to sound thick but whats Asper? is it abbreviated from something? Ive only ever handled 5 eagles and only flown 1 so i dnt rely kno much about them apart from they are beauitful.

[MusketMad]

Hi Neil, from my understanding very few of the Martials that came in died, and they were of course wild taken so Asper could be an issue. Those coming around now are captive bred and should be like the other surviving wild taken birds, steady, calm and very comfortable around man. I viewed a captive bred female that is three that has now been sold and is in training. Although she had not been trained at all she was very calm, steady and non-aggressive - best of health too.

Barry.barry is that the one that travis has just bought???

[Mac]

i once met a bloke who bought a martial from a petshop in manchester in the 60's i remember somone else mentionioning the same petshop on this forum. (it sold panthers as well!:rolleyes: )

the chap remarked how fast the bird was in a straight line and how tame it was (i suppose back then that gosses and spars were the only benchmark in terms of comparison)

i saw old cine film of the eagle at a church fete and it was a fabulous looking bird, it was brought over in adult plumage and died of unknown causes after about 5 years.

in my opinion they are the best looking eagles out there!

[MusketMad]

[quote=mac;578835]i once met a bloke who bought a martial from a petshop in manchester in the 60's i remember somone else mentionioning the same petshop on this forum. (it sold panthers as well!:rolleyes: )

the chap remarked how fast the bird was in a straight line and how tame it was (i suppose back then that gosses and spars were the only benchmark in terms of comparison)

i saw old cine film of the eagle at a church fete and it was a fabulous looking bird, it was brought over in adult plumage and died of unknown causes after about 5 years.

in my opinion they are the best looking eagles out there![/quote
just off up pets at home to see if they have any martials :-D

[Mac]

pmsl

get me a couple of changables when your there musketmad, oh and a redheaded merlin


all the best

sean

[MusketMad]

pmsl

get me a couple of changables when your there musketmad, oh and a redheaded merlin


all the best

seanthe bloke said hes right out of changebles but he has some californian condors coming in next week:D

[Fudge100]

Sorry to sound thick but whats Asper? is it abbreviated from something? Ive only ever handled 5 eagles and only flown 1 so i dnt rely kno much about them apart from they are beauitful.

it is short for aspergillosis it is caused when aspergillus fumigatus spores enter the respiratory tract,which then leads to a fungal growth inside the body.

[Onyx25]

Not had anything to do with these at all. Do these eagles have a shorter tail and longer wings than a goldy (they seem to from pictures)? If so surely they will be far better at soaring flights than persuit?

[PitBullOne]

interesting, just been contacted by some one who has a two year old imprintfemale martial, thats what i like about this forum.

[Barry]

Hi Robin,

Do you know where the birds you mention died? I would like to know more if there is a gap in what I have learned of these birds. I know of nine of the Rex Merrit imports and three other imports, all wild taken and all survived with no health difficulties apart from a broken leg. I also know of two captive bred parent reared, both also never a day of ill health. Two others not in the above numbers have been pictured and posted on this forum and I heard of no problems with asper' with these either.

If you have knowledge that takes this clean bill of health to a point of the species being asper' prone I bow to your knowledge and of course I know you will have thought and discussed your options at length.

Barry

[Tanin]

Not had anything to do with these at all. Do these eagles have a shorter tail and longer wings than a goldy (they seem to from pictures)? If so surely they will be far better at soaring flights than persuit?

Based on the 'Raptos of the world', it seem like the measurement is quite similiar.. for Golden it is 66-90 (head to tail), 180-234 wingspan and tail measurement is 28-38 (in Centimeter) while Martial measurement is 78-96(head to tail), 188-227 wingspan and 27-32 tail.

[MusketMad]

Hi Robin,

Do you know where the birds you mention died? I would like to know more if there is a gap in what I have learned of these birds. I know of nine of the Rex Merrit imports and three other imports, all wild taken and all survived with no health difficulties apart from a broken leg. I also know of two captive bred parent reared, both also never a day of ill health. Two others not in the above numbers have been pictured and posted on this forum and I heard of no problems with asper' with these either.

If you have knowledge that takes this clean bill of health to a point of the species being asper' prone I bow to your knowledge and of course I know you will have thought and discussed your options at length.

Barrywent round to see my mates new martial tonight ..f*&**ing awesome she is...three years old captive bred parent reared what more could you ask for??

[Alf]

A spar at hunting weight!:yawinkle:

went round to see my mates new martial tonight ..f*&**ing awesome she is...three years old captive bred parent reared what more could you ask for??

[MusketMad]

A spar at hunting weight!:yawinkle:
very true:supz:

[Sprout]

Hi Robin,

Do you know where the birds you mention died? I would like to know more if there is a gap in what I have learned of these birds. I know of nine of the Rex Merrit imports and three other imports, all wild taken and all survived with no health difficulties apart from a broken leg. I also know of two captive bred parent reared, both also never a day of ill health. Two others not in the above numbers have been pictured and posted on this forum and I heard of no problems with asper' with these either.

If you have knowledge that takes this clean bill of health to a point of the species being asper' prone I bow to your knowledge and of course I know you will have thought and discussed your options at length.

Barry

I know of 2 Martials, one had asper confirmed, the other had clinical signs suggestive of asper. Luckily both were caught early and still doing well.

[EagleMan]

I'm still eager to find who has the strongest grip, the goldie or the martial eagle. Considreing that the martial has larger feet and talons...
Any opinions about that, friends ?
Regards !

[Lee Brindley]

Sub-adult male

[Austringer84]

beautiful birds. and very fast in flight, only seen the one at Eagle Heights after a tumbledryer drawn dummy bunny but would love to see one in the field.

si

[Lee Brindley]

They are very fast when they get going, but need some ground to build up speed off the glove. From what I understand, they stoop from the soar (almost peregrine like) at game birds in the wild. Would love to see that:supz:

[Kariba2]

They are very fast when they get going, but need some ground to build up speed off the glove. From what I understand, they stoop from the soar (almost peregrine like) at game birds in the wild. Would love to see that:supz:

Seen one stoop an egyptian goose whilst working for a company doing canoeing safari's down the zambezi, truley awesome!!:supz:

[HéctorPazosAlba]

I have had a male of martial (already I don´t have it) I put a photo

[Lee Brindley]

I have had a male of martial (already I don´t have it) I put a photo

Nice feet, but do you have the rest of the bird?

[MattyM]

THATS A RITE SET OF FEET!!!!!!:eek:

[BHawk]

As far as I have heard there are plenty of people paid good money for Martial eagles in the past and they have died of Asper. I dare say a female could be a bigger problem but a male would be far more managable as an imprint,especially if it is done properley.

in that case when reducing weight or any stressful circumstances treat the bird with sporanox!!! only makes sense and saves the troubles that come with imprinting:roll:

[Berkut]

in that case when reducing weight or any stressful circumstances treat the bird with sporanox!!! only makes sense and saves the troubles that come with imprinting:roll:

Why the roly eyes, :?:

[BHawk]

Why the roly eyes, :?:

makes more sense to use a preventative treatment and save a lot of hassle than it does to imprint the bird and risk behavioral problems! just seemed like common sense!

[Berkut]

makes more sense to use a preventative treatment and save a lot of hassle than it does to imprint the bird and risk behavioral problems! just seemed like common sense!

I agree. But it is not all problems with imprint eagles ,although time will tell.;)

[Natch]

I agree. But it is not all problems with imprint eagles ,although time will tell.;)i have just put in my order 4 a parent reared goldie ready end of july:supz:

[Berkut]

i have just put in my order 4 a parent reared goldie ready end of july:supz:

Good stuff. Who is the breeder. 8-)

[EagleInYarak]

lucky son of a gun:D

[Taita]

Monday 30/06/2008 had a call from our local SPCA to collect a large eagle that they had recovered. Turned out to be a wild immature (1-2 years old) female martial eagle that had been found immobile under a tree on a ranch east of Harare. Rehydrated and fed by hand on the first night. Bit shakey at first but has recovered well and currently free lofting in my hawk eagle avairy. Not exactly sure what brought it down but seems that it pranged something pretty hard, perhaps a fence. Leading primaries (2) on the left wing snapped off and remaining ones tipped and shafts cracked or broken. Intended releasing her as soon as possible but obviously a non starter with this feather damage. Looks like a long haul until she moults out. As my biggest available avairy is 6m x 3m x3m, guess only course is to man and put her on a perch. Can anyone who has kept this species advise on suitable perch dimensions. Is a block or bow better? Also will have to make up a glove, any suggestions! This bird makes my Af. hawk eagle look like a budgie in comparison. Span of her foot would cross my head temple to temple. A sobering thought! Will post photos as soon as I can.

[MusketMad]

Monday 30/06/2008 had a call from our local SPCA to collect a large eagle that they had recovered. Turned out to be a wild immature (1-2 years old) female martial eagle that had been found immobile under a tree on a ranch east of Harare. Rehydrated and fed by hand on the first night. Bit shakey at first but has recovered well and currently free lofting in my hawk eagle avairy. Not exactly sure what brought it down but seems that it pranged something pretty hard, perhaps a fence. Leading primaries (2) on the left wing snapped off and remaining ones tipped and shafts cracked or broken. Intended releasing her as soon as possible but obviously a non starter with this feather damage. Looks like a long haul until she moults out. As my biggest available avairy is 6m x 3m x3m, guess only course is to man and put her on a perch. Can anyone who has kept this species advise on suitable perch dimensions. Is a block or bow better? Also will have to make up a glove, any suggestions! This bird makes my Af. hawk eagle look like a budgie in comparison. Span of her foot would cross my head temple to temple. A sobering thought! Will post photos as soon as I can.great ...get them posted

[Bateleur]

Sorry excuse my ignorance, i know what asper is but why is it better to imprint to avoid asper, as well, is it not more dangerous to imprint an eagle?(more aggressive) thanks.

[EagleMan]

Monday 30/06/2008 had a call from our local SPCA to collect a large eagle that they had recovered. Turned out to be a wild immature (1-2 years old) female martial eagle that had been found immobile under a tree on a ranch east of Harare. Rehydrated and fed by hand on the first night. Bit shakey at first but has recovered well and currently free lofting in my hawk eagle avairy. Not exactly sure what brought it down but seems that it pranged something pretty hard, perhaps a fence. Leading primaries (2) on the left wing snapped off and remaining ones tipped and shafts cracked or broken. Intended releasing her as soon as possible but obviously a non starter with this feather damage. Looks like a long haul until she moults out. As my biggest available avairy is 6m x 3m x3m, guess only course is to man and put her on a perch. Can anyone who has kept this species advise on suitable perch dimensions. Is a block or bow better? Also will have to make up a glove, any suggestions! This bird makes my Af. hawk eagle look like a budgie in comparison. Span of her foot would cross my head temple to temple. A sobering thought! Will post photos as soon as I can.

Great bird you have !
I'm a novice when it comes to eagles...I never saw an martial for real...
but from wht I read and talk, an female martial can reoke a human hand,
So I suggest to find the thickest and hardest glove you can get, the more padding and hide layers, the better for your hand!
Can you give us some pics ?
Wat's her weight ?
Regards

[Shungar]

Is there anyone on the forum or know of anyone who still flies a Martial at quarry?,as the very few ive seen have been just static on a block/bow perch.
Also how do they perform flown from off the fist at quarry so compared to a golden for example?

[Little Joe]

Is there anyone on the forum or know of anyone who still flies a Martial at quarry?,as the very few ive seen have been just static on a block/bow perch.
Also how do they perform flown from off the fist at quarry so compared to a golden for example?

I know a guy who flies a male at hare from the fist. Its a hell of a thing to watch! You dont catch much with them that way though, they are too slow to get going. If you can fly them gamehawk style, they really should come to their own, but I suspect the lack of control will be an issue. After all, they use thermals to mount, they cant just pump up like a falcon, so you'll most definately loose it in no time, or find it on someone's lawn eating his Dobermann!

[GSP]

I know a guy who flies a male at hare from the fist. Its a hell of a thing to watch! You dont catch much with them that way though, they are too slow to get going. If you can fly them gamehawk style, they really should come to their own, but I suspect the lack of control will be an issue. After all, they use thermals to mount, they cant just pump up like a falcon, so you'll most definately loose it in no time, or find it on someone's lawn eating his Dobermann!I was going to reply at length but decided not to bother
Tell your mate to get it fit
www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22464&highlight=martial (http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22464&highlight=martial)

[Little Joe]

I was going to reply at length but decided not to bother
Tell your mate to get it fit
www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22464&highlight=martial (http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22464&highlight=martial)

I'm sure you know what you talking about, but no need to be condescending.

[Stuart]

great pics ,i doubt your bird was male and flying hunting at 9 lbs/
presently buying a matial male ,when i get it neil willbe imprinting it for me,hpoefully this will leave the bird less vunerable to asper,and transfer some of of the sibling motivated aggression,
goodluck imprinting a martial eagle robin rather you than me stu

[MusketMad]

I know a guy who flies a male at hare from the fist. Its a hell of a thing to watch! You dont catch much with them that way though, they are too slow to get going. If you can fly them gamehawk style, they really should come to their own, but I suspect the lack of control will be an issue. After all, they use thermals to mount, they cant just pump up like a falcon, so you'll most definately loose it in no time, or find it on someone's lawn eating his Dobermann!so you think they are slow to get going ? it couldnt have been a good one then...and if you went out flying a martial thinking theres a chance you might loose it you need your head examined ..ive seen many martials flown and none of them have been slow....

[Little Joe]

so you think they are slow to get going ? it couldnt have been a good one then...and if you went out flying a martial thinking theres a chance you might loose it you need your head examined ..ive seen many martials flown and none of them have been slow....

I stand corrected then.

[MusketMad]

I stand corrected then.said the man with the wooden leg:lol:

[Taita]

A few photos, to show size of the bird and damage to the primaries

[EagleMan]

Thanks for the pics...
She's truly huge...:supz:
Her feet are bigger than any golden eagle ! Do you know her weight ?
Regards

[Taita]

Thanks for the pics...
She's truly huge...:supz:
Her feet are bigger than any golden eagle ! Do you know her weight ?
Regards

Haven't weighed her as my scales don't go high enough. Max. weight recorded for this species is 6.2kg. I'd guess she is around 5.5kg.

[Riddick]

A few photos, to show size of the bird and damage to the primaries
rather you than me:eek:

[Gil]

I always find it hard to see a fox die but I dont feel anything when I see a rabbit or a bird die :rolleyes:. Guess its cause I love canines and its a shame to see them die this way.
Too bad about your martial crash, but thats nature, when a raptor isnt in shape anymore he crashes his way to death.
Great foot size btw :supz: and a funny long neck :rolleyes::lol:

[Taita]

I always find it hard to see a fox die but I dont feel anything when I see a rabbit or a bird die :rolleyes:. Guess its cause I love canines and its a shame to see them die this way.
Too bad about your martial crash, but thats nature, when a raptor isnt in shape anymore he crashes his way to death.
Great foot size btw :supz: and a funny long neck :rolleyes::lol:

I agree that some mortality is natural and based on fitness of the individual. However, in this case it does not seem that way as this particular bird was in high condition, no external parasite load and no apparent disability. The most likely cause of its crash is collision with a fence, which can't really be considered "natural" mortality. As she is probably in her third year she has already survived the period of greatest natural mortality for raptors. On this basis she is an asset to the natural population, particularly for a species which is already under pressure from competition with man.

[Taita]

rather you than me:eek:

Not something to be entered into lightly. Just spelled out my rationale in another posting so believe it is a worth while excercise.

[Taita]

Progress! She has dropped a pair of primaries that includes one of the broken ones. Also growing a deck feather which is half way down. Although have got all furniture together to tether her, going to stick with a seclusion avairy as this seems to be working. One sixth of the way there!

[ReluctantTwitcher]

I agree that some mortality is natural and based on fitness of the individual. However, in this case it does not seem that way as this particular bird was in high condition, no external parasite load and no apparent disability. The most likely cause of its crash is collision with a fence, which can't really be considered "natural" mortality. As she is probably in her third year she has already survived the period of greatest natural mortality for raptors. On this basis she is an asset to the natural population, particularly for a species which is already under pressure from competition with man.

Very well put. I agree with you 100%.


Not something to be entered into lightly. Just spelled out my rationale in another posting so believe it is a worth while excercise.

Very commendable of you to take the eagle on, despite the potential dangers handling it. :supz:

Progress! She has dropped a pair of primaries that includes one of the broken ones. Also growing a deck feather which is half way down. Although have got all furniture together to tether her, going to stick with a seclusion avairy as this seems to be working. One sixth of the way there!

Excellent news! I look forward to hearing more about her recovery in the near future.

Regards,
/Magnus