Ms Havoc's chicks

[Accipiter3]

Ms Havoc is a twelve year old NA goshawk. She's been laying eggs for about 8 years now, but this is the first time we've had semen available for her. The first egg hatched three days ago, and the second one this morning. The third one has pipped, and the fourth wasn't laid until four days after the third, so it probably won't pip until Monday or Tuesday.

[FredrickFogg]

Way to go Ms. Havoc, and you too Richard! Congrats! Put me on your list for one in the next couple years, since you have now got it all figured out! LOL

Fred

[Accipiter3]

Way to go Ms. Havoc, and you too Richard! Congrats! Put me on your list for one in the next couple years, since you have now got it all figured out! LOL Fred

:grin: Well, I certainly don't have it all figured out, but I'm sure we will still be trying to maintain for at least the next couple years! You're not ready for a third bird???:twisted:

[FredrickFogg]

You're not ready for a third bird???:twisted:

I turned my red-tail (Addie) loose on Thursday. It is strange to not hear those bells out in the back yard. Down to just the coops, 14 Coturnix Quail, 5 breeding pairs of gerbils and my doberman! Awful quiet at my house! Hurry up September, can't wait to trap again! LOL

Fred

[Mark Collins]

Brilliant , well done, mark.

[Tim Laycock]

Excellent Richard!
Finaly success :supz: :supz: :supz: :supz:

[Berkut]

Brilliant Richard.A great achievment.

[ReluctantTwitcher]

Excellent Richard!
Finaly success :supz: :supz: :supz: :supz:

Brilliant Richard.A great achievment.

Hear, hear!
Congratulations Richard!

/Magnus

[Jastreb]

Richard :supz: :supz: :supz: :supz:

Great pictures! Excellent!

Cheers Viktor

[Graham Stuart]

cracking stuff mate keep the pics coming...graham

[Accipiter3]

Richard :supz: :supz:

Great pictures! Excellent!

Cheers Viktor

Thanks to all of you! And Desire's first egg pipped this morning! :D

More pictures later.....

[MitchellBrad]

Thanks to all of you! And Desire's first egg pipped this morning! :D

More pictures later.....

Congrats on those eyeases. Looks like your going to have an outstanding year!!!

Brad

[Matthew Patching]

Nice:supz: :supz: :supz:

[Accipiter3]

Congrats on those eyeases. Looks like your going to have an outstanding year!!! Brad

Thanks! And yes it does! Here's a picture of the two just before feeding this afternoon.

[FredrickFogg]

Richard,

They look GREAT! So happy for you all. Keep up the good work! I want one someday! :supz: :supz:

Fred

[MitchellBrad]

Thanks! And yes it does! Here's a picture of the two just before feeding this afternoon.

Great picture!!!

Brad

[Tasha55403]

Absolutely fantastic guys:)

[Accipiter3]

Absolutely fantastic guys:)

Thanks Tasha and Brad and everyone else! And number three joined us this morning after many hours of me thinking there MUST be something wrong..... And Desire's first pipped egg is still just sitting there doing nothing! It's now been 24 hours since it pipped, though, so it should start working it's way out soon.

[TimDog80]

exellant and well done to you:supz: ........... please keep the thread updated with photos as they progress:D

regards
tim:D

[Accipiter3]

exellant and well done to you:supz: ........... please keep the thread updated with photos as they progress:D regards
tim:D

Desire's second egg pipped this afternoon, and Ms Havoc's fourth should pip tomorrow.

Here's a picture of the three we have now.

[Isaac]

Beautiful Richard!

[Accipiter3]

Beautiful Richard!

Number four hatched out this morning at about 11:20 MDT. It took 49 hours from pip to hatch, which is the longest so far. First was shortest time at 33 hours. And we now have one of Desire's and one of Ms Havoc's that are pipped.

I also gave one of the chicks back to Ms Havoc. We had fed it before taking it out, and I gave Ms Havoc her ration before I took the chick out. I put the chick in the nest without her noticing, but it got uncomfortable and peeped a bit. Ms Havoc turned and looked at me and the nest, gathered the rest of her food up and brought it to the nest. As soon as she landed on the edge of the nest the chick stood up and started begging, and Ms Havoc started tearing off tiny little pieces, soaking them in saliva, and then offering them to the baby. It was SO fantastic! She fed it about as much again as what Becky had already fed it before I took it out; and it had stopped begging and laid down when Becky had stopped feeding it. Ms Havoc is now covering the chick along with her two dummy eggs and proud as punch! :D

Here are some pics of number four. I'll send some of Ms Havoc in a few minutes.

[Accipiter3]

Here are some pics of number four. I'll send some of Ms Havoc in a few minutes.

And here they are:

[MitchellBrad]

Number four hatched out this morning at about 11:20 MDT. It took 49 hours from pip to hatch, which is the longest so far. First was shortest time at 33 hours. And we now have one of Desire's and one of Ms Havoc's that are pipped.

Congrats on your flock of gosses:yawinkle:

Brad

[Accipiter3]

Congrats on your flock of gosses:yawinkle:
Brad

Thanks Brad. My brother came up for the long weekend, and his comment this morning was, "You've doubled the number of goshawks on the property since I've been here!" And they may be tripled by next weekend.......

[GregMik]

Thanks Brad. My brother came up for the long weekend, and his comment this morning was, "You've doubled the number of goshawks on the property since I've been here!" And they may be tripled by next weekend.......


PMSL!!!! This is awesome!! I am sure Becky is ecstatic!!!


Greg

[Accipiter3]

PMSL!!!! This is awesome!! I am sure Becky is ecstatic!!! Greg

:D Yep!!! Me too!!! :D

[FredrickFogg]

And here they are:

Richard, this is sooooooo cool! It is so fun to see your excitement! Keep up the great work and keep posting! I can't tell you how much I look forward to seeing what has happened since yesterday! LOL

Fred

[Eagle Owl]

That is awesome Richard! :supz: :supz: They are just tooooooo cute:heart: Keep the pics coming!!!!!!!!!

[IAmTheWeasel]

Congrats Richard and Becky!!!!!!Awsome

[FrootDog]

That is awesome Richard! :supz: :supz: They are just tooooooo cute:heart: Keep the pics coming!!!!!!!!!

I don't know that cute is a word that comes to mind when talking about these fearsome preadators. Sheesh. Girls!

[Eagle Owl]

I don't know that cute is a word that comes to mind when talking about these fearsome preadators. Sheesh. Girls!

They are cute!!!!!! They aren't exactly fearsome predators right now. :roll: But when they do become fearsome predators they won't be so cute anymore...they will be gorgeous:supz:

And this coming from a man who kisses his coops...pictures somewhere on here to prove it, too :lol: :rolleyes:

[Accipiter3]

[QUOTE=Eagle Owl;580434]They are cute!!!!!! They aren't exactly fearsome predators right now. :roll: But when they do become fearsome predators they won't be so cute anymore...they will be gorgeous:supz:
And this coming from a man who kisses his coops...pictures somewhere on here to prove it, too QUOTE]

You TWO are just too CUTE!!!!! ;-)

We now have six babies and a pipped egg that should hatch soon and another egg we are still hoping will be good.

Here are some pics from today. Ms Havoc with the first to hatch, five babies and a couple dummy eggs, and me with the second and sixth hatched.

[FrootDog]

Excellent stuff Richard. Remember I gave you a ride to the auto parts store in Kearney so i will be looking for my good samaritan discount...... You 've got to make it back down to Texas soon.

[Eagle Owl]

You TWO are just too CUTE!!!!! ;-)

You are NOT funny Richard:roll:

Those babies are adorable!:heart: Definitely need to send a few our way...there are plenty of people here that would be willing to take them off your hands:yawinkle:

[GregMik]

Excellent stuff Richard. Remember I gave you a ride to the auto parts store in Kearney so i will be looking for my good samaritan discount...... You 've got to make it back down to Texas soon.

Get in line bud....I put a starter in the van you saw about 6 yrs earlier...:lol:

Richard I am so happy for you and Becky!!! This is what you two have been working for, for so long and it is finally it is happening!! YeeHawww!!!!

Greg

[Tim Laycock]

Richard I am so happy for you and Becky!!! This is what you two have been working for, for so long and it is finally it is happening!! YeeHawww!!!!


Agreed, I have just had my second blank year.

Its good to see some other "enthusiastic amateurs" enjoying some success :supz: :supz: :supz:

[Accipitress]

Yeehaw!!!!!!!!! :supz: Number eight just pipped, that's the egg we didn't think was fertile. Man we hit the honey load this year....

Thanks to all those who have been so kind and congratulated us, it mean allot. Discounts all around.... wait a minute did I say that.... sorry I'm tired. :lol:

Becky

[MitchellBrad]

Yeehaw!!!!!!!!! :supz: Number eight just pipped, that's the egg we didn't think was fertile. Man we hit the honey load this year....

Thanks to all those who have been so kind and congratulated us, it mean allot. Discounts all around.... wait a minute did I say that.... sorry I'm tired. :lol:

Becky

When it rains it pours8-)

[LadyHawke]

Congratulations on your new arrivals! You are going to have your hands full! They are very cute, though. I'm sure the rabbits, phesant and ducks wont think so when they are big, though! (appologies if the quarry species are wrong! I'm in Scotland!)

[Accipiter3]

Congratulations on your new arrivals! You are going to have your hands full! They are very cute, though. I'm sure the rabbits, phesant and ducks wont think so when they are big, though! (appologies if the quarry species are wrong! I'm in Scotland!)

Thanks! And the prey species are good ones in most places, but it will depend on who gets them and where they live. Our tiercels are fairly small and great for quail and partridge, magpies, crows and smaller species. Most can also handle bunnies pretty well. The females are a bit small at ~850 grams, but can still handle black-tailed jacks along with bunnies, pheasants and ducks.

[FrootDog]

Get in line bud....I put a starter in the van you saw about 6 yrs earlier...:lol:

Richard I am so happy for you and Becky!!! This is what you two have been working for, for so long and it is finally it is happening!! YeeHawww!!!!

Greg

I never said I was in any hurry. Quite the opposite.

[Accipiter3]

I never said I was in any hurry. Quite the opposite.

YeeHawww!!! indeed! :D I'm sure we can work some kind of deals with both of you. As a matter of fact, we just doubled the price of our birds so that we can have discount sales in the near future....... :twisted: If you're serious about getting birds email me direct.

Thanks to both of you for your assistance in our times of need!

[Accipiter3]

Thanks! And the prey species are good ones in most places, but it will depend on who gets them and where they live. Our tiercels are fairly small and great for quail and partridge, magpies, crows and smaller species. Most can also handle bunnies pretty well. The females are a bit small at ~850 grams, but can still handle black-tailed jacks along with bunnies, pheasants and ducks.

We got the results back on the first four eggs we sent in; one female and three males. We still have to send in Ms Havoc's last egg and Desire's other three. We'll probably get those in the mail on Sunday if the last egg hatches early enough.

[Accipiter3]

We got the results back on the first four eggs we sent in; one female and three males. We still have to send in Ms Havoc's last egg and Desire's other three. We'll probably get those in the mail on Sunday if the last egg hatches early enough.

Red is going to be Becky's falconry bird, so she wanted her brought in where she can start working with her. I removed Red from the chamber with Ms Havoc yesterday and replaced her with Black and Purple. Here's a picture of the basket I used to do the deed.

Ms Havoc cackled at me when I took it into the chamber, because she does not like anything but food brought in. I just set it down under the nest and
gave her some food, though, and all was well.

I let her feed Red pretty well and put Black into the nest with her. She immediately checked out the new baby and fed him a few bites, and I placed Purple into the nest. While she was checking him out, I removed Red and put her into the basket and closed the lid. I then helped feed the other two for a while and left with my booty.

Black and Purple had both been fed quite a bit before going into the
basket, so they remained quiet until I opened the lid. Then Red had eaten
quite a bit before I placed her into the basket, so she remained quiet while
I snuck her out the door. The big problem comes when there is only one baby in the chamber and I need to remove it; best done in the dark.....

[GregMik]

YeeHawww!!! indeed! :D I'm sure we can work some kind of deals with both of you. As a matter of fact, we just doubled the price of our birds so that we can have discount sales in the near future....... :twisted: If you're serious about getting birds email me direct.

Thanks to both of you for your assistance in our times of need!

Richard,

Thanks but not this yr bud! I am going up north on the hunt for a nest. A freind is looking for one. I am running late as usual:roll:

Greg

[Accipiter3]

Richard, Thanks but not this yr bud! I am going up north on the hunt for a nest. A freind is looking for one. I am running late as usual:roll: Greg

Glad to hear that! Good luck on it! Did you go to Clint Boal's site and read about the goshawks in Minnesota? He has done a lot of research and is a very prolific writer.

[Accipiter3]

We got the results back on the first four eggs we sent in; one female and three males. We still have to send in Ms Havoc's last egg and Desire's other three. We'll probably get those in the mail on Sunday if the last egg hatches early enough.

:D We have hatch on number eight!!!!! :D

It will spend the night in the incubator and join the others for breakfast. And folks are coming to visit and meet the flock tomorrow. Might still get the shells off tomorrow for sampling.

[GregMik]

You are older than dirt with a young trophy wife....You have parents that are alive? Hope they can put up with you for their time there.....Just put Becky in charge and everything will be fine....



Greg

[Keith Barker]

:D We have hatch on number eight!!!!! :D

It will spend the night in the incubator and join the others for breakfast. And folks are coming to visit and meet the flock tomorrow. Might still get the shells off tomorrow for sampling.

well done richard and becky,
your posts have been most encouraging as im just going down this route for my first time myself, you mention different colours red black purple, i take it you are marking the eyasses in some way to identify each bird for sampling? are these the colour of their rings or are you using a marker? what marker are you using?
keep the progress reports coming and the pics too they are super to see.
great stuff
keith

[Accipiter3]

You are older than dirt with a young trophy wife....You have parents that are alive? Hope they can put up with you for their time there.....Just put Becky in charge and everything will be fine....
Greg

No, my parents are long gone, Thank you. That is just "folks", as in people. People are coming today to see the babies. But, yes, I do put my young trophy wife in charge, and everything does turn out right!;)

[Accipiter3]

well done richard and becky,
your posts have been most encouraging as im just going down this route for my first time myself, you mention different colours red black purple, i take it you are marking the eyasses in some way to identify each bird for sampling? are these the colour of their rings or are you using a marker? what marker are you using?
keep the progress reports coming and the pics too they are super to see.
great stuff keith

Hi Keith,

Yes, the colors refer to markings on the chicks and eggs so we can tell which chick goes with which egg for sexing; makes it easier to put the correct sized band on and you know sooner what you have available to sell or give.

We use the permanent Sharpie wide markers. Don't use red, though, because the adults and the siblings will peck at it. Red's marking faded away and we didn't renew it, because we already know she is a female and she was first hatched and so the largest of the lot.

The rings won't stay on until they are about ten days old. We tried a bit earlier and had to replace them a few times already. From now on we'll just wait until they are ten days before putting them on, OR we'll put a piece of Vet Wrap on the bands to keep them in place until they stay on their own, or maybe both.

And we'll keep posting here until they are grown or gone. Becky will be flying Red, so she'll probably start a thread on her sometime soon.

[Accipitress]

HA!!! Greg your post gave me a tickle... trophy wife my arse. His folks aren't alive, I'm the only one who has to put up with him but it's not so bad. If I weren't here to keep the bird records though things would be a mess. He had a list of ppl interested in birds but can't find it now... poor baby, what would he do without me.

We are knee deep in poop and quail up to our elbows. Babies are so much fun. Too bad you and Tasha don't live closer, we'd love to have you over to see the flock.

Becky

[Accipiter3]

keep the progress reports coming and the pics too they are super to see. great stuff keith

Here are the three oldest in their first basket and Ms Havoc with the two she's raising now.

[FredrickFogg]

Here are the three oldest in their first basket and Ms Havoc with the two she's raising now.

They are looking good Richard! I think a little male might be in my future! LOL :supz: Inya took another crow today, but I bet with a gos I could take them everyday! :lol:

Fred

[Accipiter3]

They are looking good Richard! I think a little male might be in my future! LOL :supz: Inya took another crow today, but I bet with a gos I could take them everyday! :lol: Fred

A larger female Cooper's could be taking them regularly. Or a tiercel Harris. These tiercel goses should fly at around 620-650 grams, and that is great for crow hawking. My 454 gram (one pound) Cooper's was a great crow hawk! My female German gos was a fantastic crow and rook hawk! I did a lot of car hawking with both, but I also abandoned the car a lot and snuck up on them on foot. These were both birds that would take long slips and chase them high into the sky and take them.

[Isaac]

Probably not much of a chance of any of the flock still being there when I get there in September is there. :( Oh well, as long as I get to see Ms. Havoc do her stuff I'll be happy! :supz: Looks like I'll be living in Parker, how far away is that from you guys?

[Accipiter3]

Probably not much of a chance of any of the flock still being there when I get there in September is there. :( Oh well, as long as I get to see Ms. Havoc do her stuff I'll be happy! :supz: Looks like I'll be living in Parker, how far away is that from you guys?

Nope, not much of a chance! I'd like for most of them to be gone in about two weeks. We'll be having Ms Havoc raise at least one male, and Becky may be raising one for someone, but it would be best for them to be in their new homes before they have any significant feather growth. We have one other female for sure and one needs to be redone. All eight are doing well.

Parker is down the road about fifty miles from us, but we have some hunting areas down that way, and there are a few other falconers living in that area.

[Rage]

Hey Richard! Congrats! I didnt know then but you must have been who Roger Tucker was talking about last week. We had the conversation about how i go general this oct, if it was any sooner id deffinatly be looking you up this year. Till then ill have to work with a passage, but then that may be better for my first gos eh?

Stellar work, That has got to feel so cool!

Chuck
Colorado

[FredrickFogg]

Richard, we need an update and some more pics! PLEASE! :lol: :lol:

Fred

[Accipitress]

We let our first chick go to it's new owner Sunday and it was exciting. I feel really good about this guy, he really wants to do the bird Justis and will be calling us for advice. I got pictures this morning of the eyass in it's new home and he's eating out of a dish now. I knew he would once he was away from the other babies. He flew in from Georgia to pick him up. Here's a pictures of our female, I think I'm going to call her Lil Ms. She's the first one that hatched and she's out of Ms Havoc. More pictures to come of the rest of the gang.

Becky