Biggest Eagle?

[CopperBarn]

Could some one please confirm for me the largest Eagle? I thought I knew before something Bill Oddball ( :-) ) said on Springwatch the other night made me doubt what I thought I knew.

[FalconMistress]

I thinks its the crownd eagle but not totally sure. But i swear tiger is the largest lol

[Wingless]

longest in terms of measurement head to tail tip is Phillipine Monkey Eating Eagle and heaviest is between Stellars Eagle and Harpy Eagle. I think :)

[Horus 361]

I've heard its the stellars sea eagle.

[CopperBarn]

I was always lead to believe that the Harpy was the biggest "Eagle", whereas the Phillipine was the largest "True Eagle?"

Some one get the text book out!!! :-)

[Chicquera]

Could some one please confirm for me the largest Eagle? I thought I knew before something Bill Oddball ( :-) ) said on Springwatch the other night made me doubt what I thought I knew.

South American HARPY EAGLE !!!!!!........for sure !!! :supz:

[Horus 361]

I'm sure it says on the Eagles DVD by attenborough that the stellars is the biggest eagle will have a check.

ATB

[Falcun]

If I am not mistaken its the Philippine Eagle

[NGuruve]

the phillipene is the tallest eagle but weight is between the harpy and the stellers i think the stellers is stightly the larger one

[CopperBarn]

I believe the Phillipine is the biggest "True Eagle" because (correct me if I am wrong) the characteristics of a True Eagle are completely feathered legs? And something to do with their mouth going past the corner of their eye.

I dunno, what with True species and subspecies, it sure makes bird classification complicated.

[Johnson C]

I'm sure it says on the Eagles DVD by attenborough that the stellars is the biggest eagle will have a check.

ATB

it does, but are they always 100% ross? :lol:

[Kanati]

found this while looking for the largest eagle... i will keep looking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/wildfacts/factfiles/3044.shtml

[Horus 361]

Just checked and it says the stellars is the worlds biggest fish eagle. Sorry I must of heard it wrong the first time I watched it.

ATB Ross

[CopperBarn]

No worries Horus, thanks for your effort.

x cb x

[Banwell Falconry]

Heaviest is the STELLARS SEA EAGLE
Tallest is the PHILLIAPEAN MONKEY EAGLE
most powerfull is the HARPY EAGLE.


ALL FROM "EAGLES OF THE WORLD"

[CopperBarn]

Thanks Banwell. :-)

Anyway, even if its not 100% certain, I think we've all concluded that they are all hench m*ther*****ers who I certainly wouldn't want to be footed by!

Anybody got the certain definitions of True Eagles?

Thanks for your help guys.

CB

[Wingless]

Depends whose information you want to rely on - from wikipedia

"one captive female, "Jezebel", weighed 12.3 kg (26 lb)"

but im sure a well fed captive stellars could beat this.

Robbie

[CopperBarn]

Wingless, what type of Eagle was "Jezebel"?

[Wingless]

sorry ! :rolleyes: she was a harpy eagle

[Barkai]

Try going to the Eagle section and search for the most powerful eagle ever (by eagleman).

Stephen

[CopperBarn]

To Wingless:

Lol thats ok u muppet! :heart: :)

No-one know what defines a True Eagle?

[Wingless]

Muppet haha :lol:


The eagles belonging to the genus Aquila are generally known as the True Eagles. I have no books here in malta to plagerise ;) lol

[CopperBarn]

What we really need is some lucky ****** on here whos worked with Harpys, Stellars and Phillipeans. They can tell us straight from the horses (or eagles) mouth as it were.

what u doin in malta?

x

[MusketMad]

longest in terms of measurement head to tail tip is Phillipine Monkey Eating Eagle and heaviest is between Stellars Eagle and Harpy Eagle. I think :)so you do know something then ????

[Barkai]

Sorry. not that thread but this one: the most powerful eagle? (by eagle man)

Stephen

[john foster]

The two year old male Harpy i worked with weighed in at a fraction under 16lb and still had some way to go.
John

[Wingless]

so you do know something then ????

--> :butthead:

[Tim Laycock]

Bill Oddball ( :-) )
Like it :supz:

[CJTaylor]

The harpy eagle has the largest talons of any eagle, but is not the largest eagle, reference books constantly state the stellars sea eagle as the largest eagle in terms of pure weight and wing span?,thats if we class all birds termed (eagle) in the same mix?, i suppose there may be subspecies that vary and are larger/smaller etc.if for exs we look at bears, polar bears are more often than not regarded as the worlds largest, when in fact the heaviest largest bears are kodiak bears, which are a subspecies of the grizzly?

[john foster]

definately would think the Harpy is the strongest,a fulyy mature female is capable of taking a Black Howler monkey out of the tree. (monkey weighing 16-17lb) I dont think they do it to much, Howlers are very aggresive when threatened so it would be a dangerous undertaking for the bird but i have seen footage of them doing it.
John

[JanMan]

Could some one please confirm for me the largest Eagle? I thought I knew before something Bill Oddball ( :-) ) said on Springwatch the other night made me doubt what I thought I knew.

For what it's worth here we go.

The true eagles are prefix Aquila and some of the biggest are Golden Eagles.
The sea eagles are prefix Haliaeetus which is where the Steller's comes in which is bigger than the Goldie.
All the thumping great forest eagles seem to have various classifications but the Monkey-eating Eagle is supposed to be the largest but the Harpy the most powerful.
Then we have the Hawk Eagles where the Martial and Crowned are the biggest, well at least they are longer than the Harpy but it's probably in the tail feathers.
All I know is don't shake hands with a Harpy.
And another warning.
I know a chap who took his Goldie into a public lavatory for a pee and, in the process had his 'pickup piece' attacked. He tells me it stung a bit!!:rolleyes:

[HawkMom]

Here is a photo a falconry friend of mine forwarded to me.

It is Sam Barnes and 'Atalanta' the eagle which was the subject of 'Bird of Jove'.

The bird looks HUGE in the photo. I don't think is was 'doctored'.

Any one who can give additional feedback (actually have SEEN) Atalanta. Let us know.

[Berkut]

Here is a photo a falconry friend of mine forwarded to me.

It is Sam Barnes and 'Atalanta' the eagle which was the subject of 'Bird of Jove'.

The bird looks HUGE in the photo. I don't think is was 'doctored'.

Any one who can give additional feedback (actually have SEEN) Atalanta. Let us know.

I read the book and although the eagle is big it is never 26 lbs .As for the book itself it was mainly fantasy.Some of the stuff in it just could not be true.

[Siberia]

I just received a reply by a an ornitologists working on Steller's Sea Eagles in Kamchatka.The largest female measured is 9,370 kgs.Wing 693 mm,tail 354 mm.Would appreciate if someone converts the figures above in pounds,inches,etc.
I have some slides of Steller's Eagle.Hope tomorrow they will make photos and I will send them to the forum.
After looking at the pictures we will know the answer to the question "Which eagle has the largest beak?"
Rgds

[CJTaylor]

I read the book and although the eagle is big it is never 26 lbs .As for the book itself it was mainly fantasy.Some of the stuff in it just could not be true.
I have also read the book, and must admit much of what i read i had difficulty in accepting as fact, so you could use that old cliche and say...i agreeaay..

[SacoeHueso]

Can't tell wich is the biggest, but for sure the Harpy eagle is the strongest of all. I did my veterinary internship in a zoo and overthere was a harpy that wieght over 15 Kilos and I have seen viedos that show a harpy eagle tearing a sloth from a tree.

[CopperBarn]

For what it's worth here we go.

The true eagles are prefix Aquila and some of the biggest are Golden Eagles.
The sea eagles are prefix Haliaeetus which is where the Steller's comes in which is bigger than the Goldie.
All the thumping great forest eagles seem to have various classifications but the Monkey-eating Eagle is supposed to be the largest but the Harpy the most powerful.
Then we have the Hawk Eagles where the Martial and Crowned are the biggest, well at least they are longer than the Harpy but it's probably in the tail feathers.
All I know is don't shake hands with a Harpy.
And another warning.
I know a chap who took his Goldie into a public lavatory for a pee and, in the process had his 'pickup piece' attacked. He tells me it stung a bit!!:rolleyes:


Hehe thanks very much JanMan,

ill remember that ! lol

[Gary F]

Here is a photo a falconry friend of mine forwarded to me.

It is Sam Barnes and 'Atalanta' the eagle which was the subject of 'Bird of Jove'.

The bird looks HUGE in the photo. I don't think is was 'doctored'.

Any one who can give additional feedback (actually have SEEN) Atalanta. Let us know.
the only thing big in that book was barnes ego,,,

[Greg]

Here is a photo a falconry friend of mine forwarded to me.

It is Sam Barnes and 'Atalanta' the eagle which was the subject of 'Bird of Jove'.

The bird looks HUGE in the photo. I don't think is was 'doctored'.

Any one who can give additional feedback (actually have SEEN) Atalanta. Let us know.

I did see Atalanta and yes it was a huge Goldie! I was only 18rys old and although I had handled a couple of eagles they were nothing compared to this bird. It was sitting on the gatepost of Sam Barnes's house. No jesses leash etc. I must say I was a bit scared to get too close to it the one thing that stuck out in my mind was the size of its feet, I estimated that they were almost 12" in length (Tip to tip) While I was there she flew out to sea and out of sight. Half an hour later she was straffing the beach then threw up landed on the chimney of the house and tucked up a foot. All a long time ago now, I never met Sam Barnes but standing next to that eagle will always stay with me. As to weight all I can say is, it was huge!!!

[Onyx25]

I'm sure it says on the Eagles DVD by attenborough that the stellars is the biggest eagle will have a check.

ATB

You are spot on it is the stellers closely followed by the harpy.

[EagleMan]

definately would think the Harpy is the strongest,a fulyy mature female is capable of taking a Black Howler monkey out of the tree. (monkey weighing 16-17lb) I dont think they do it to much, Howlers are very aggresive when threatened so it would be a dangerous undertaking for the bird but i have seen footage of them doing it.
John

Sorry, but in terms of strenght and agresivity, the african crowned eagle, despite it's smaller frame is a more formidable eagle than the harpy eagle !
Everybody is amazed by the harpy capabilityes of snatching innofesive sloths from the trees or catching howler monkeys !
What about the african crowned eagle who kill baboons ? can anybody compare the mighty huge fanged baboon with the harpy preys ? timide howlesr, and capucin monkeys alongside sloths ?
and harpy is not capable lifting in the air prey that weights more than half of its weight,
On the other side crowned eagles is certified flyng with pey that weighted three times more than crowned eagle's weight !
I'v seen this on Animal Planet in a contest about Earth's most powerfull animals !
Back to the largest eagles, the largest is Steller, the longest is Philippine eagle ang in terms of strenght i sincere belive that harpy is outnumbered by crowned eagle.

[john foster]

Having worked with Both Harpy Eagles and Black Howler Monkeys i would respectfully suggest (timid Howler monkey) may be a little way from the truth, a male howler monkey is not friendly little pet whilst not a baboon they can and do inflict severe damage to each other in fights and to anybody silly enough to mess with one.

[Siberia]

For the ones that haven't visit the thread with the photo of the Steller's Sae Eagle

[Siberia]

Sorry,there are no monkeys in Kamchatka ! May be because thay have been eaten by Steller's Sea eagles there :yawinkle:

[john foster]

I used to blame it on the Russians but not anymore.
John

[Siberia]

I used to blame it on the Russians but not anymore.
John

Glad you got it finally.We are responsible for the earthquakes in the region and global warming only :)

[john foster]

whats the fishing like in russia?

[Siberia]

whats the fishing like in russia?

It has to be an obsession.Otherwise I can not explain how and why these guys make a hole in the icy lakes and sit on their chairs at - 20 C for hours without moving

[EagleMan]

Hello Siberia !
I know about Steller's that sometime they hunt for hares and even fox cubs.
Did you know more about this behavior ?
that's because more than 80% of theyr food is comosed from salmons.
That's they developed theyr huge yellow beaks, they need that kind of beaks for tearing into tough salmon hide.
And, by the way, because you'r russian, Respect Russia !

[Siberia]

Hello Siberia !
I know about Steller's that sometime they hunt for hares and even fox cubs.
Did you know more about this behavior ?
that's because more than 80% of theyr food is comosed from salmons.
That's they developed theyr huge yellow beaks, they need that kind of beaks for tearing into tough salmon hide.
And, by the way, because you'r russian, Respect Russia !

Hello EagleMan!

Yes,Stellers' hunt hares.They hunt foxes too.Full grown fox I mean,not youngsters.The largest alive prey killed by Steller's is a seal cub.They hunt partridges from time to time.Some of the males Steller's are flying arround the large bird collonies and hunt cormorans and gulls.But as you said most of the prey is salmon.In winter carrion too.
Did I get it correctly I don't respect Russia ? :rolleyes:A step further in my respect is called nationalism...

[EagleMan]

Hello Siberia !
I'm sure you did not understand me:rolleyes:
Because you are russian, I typped "Respect Russia" as a form of salute, introduction and consideration :supz: I was just happy to meet an Christian Orthodox on this forum !

You see, we both speak English, wich is not our native language and you might understand me wrong
I like russians, and i have a lot consideration about russian culture, literature, cuisine, civilization and my favourite : Slavic legends and myths !
Nationalism is a step further in my respect too !

Back to Stellers it's true tkat Kamchatka golden eagles ( by the way, wich are among the largest golden eagles subspecies) sometimes steal Steller's prey ? even intimidatind and driving them away from their salmons ?
Is interesting to find out if someone studyed the interactional relations between Stellers, White tailed eagles and Golen eagles !
Thanks !

[Siberia]

I have been on Kamchatka many times.Golden eagles nesting there are huge birds indeed.For sure Golden eagles are far more rare in Kamchatka than Stellers'.I think there are about 3500 pairs of Stellers's and probably about 200 pairs of Golden eagles nesting there.Major differences are-Stellers' migrate to the Southern Kamchatka and Japan in winter.Golden are full year residents.Even in the dark winter months January and February they stay there.Stellers' nest mainly /95 % / on trees.Goldens on trees and rocks.Other interesting fact is that most of the nesting Goldens have 2 chicks.There are a lot of reports with 3.I have observed this phenomenon twice myself.Golden eagles do not feed on fish.About relation Golden-Steller's-I personally have no observations.Golden eagles hunt arctic hare and polar partridge mainly.But they are oporunists and hunt everywhere and everything up to the size of arctic deer cub.

[john foster]

i think i want to come and live in Russia. Whats the beer like?
john

[Siberia]

i think i want to come and live in Russia. Whats the beer like?
john


There are about 150 local brands of beer, John.I liter costs 65 p.UK brands on the local market are Engel Keller-Dunkel,Wickwar,Hogs Back Brewery and Tomas Watkin.A litter is about 3,5 GBP.Vodka is more popular than beer.For sure your beer will stay cold for long in Kamchatka :)

[phoenix123]

the stellers is (on average) the largest. one female weighed 30lbs!

[Luke Davison]

South American HARPY EAGLE !!!!!!........for sure !!! :supz:

that's what i thought As well..

[SolidLeo]

Harpy Eagle!!!!!!

[Pete J.]

Heaviest is the STELLARS SEA EAGLE
Tallest is the PHILLIAPEAN MONKEY EAGLE
most powerfull is the HARPY EAGLE.


ALL FROM "EAGLES OF THE WORLD"

I checked several different sources and it seems a toss up to me. Weights for females of each, Stellars and Harpy were basically the same..the heaviest weights noted for each was 9.0 kg.

[Hatchero]

i don't know which is biggest but after having seen some harpys up close my money is on the harpy in a cage match with any other eagle.
Jim

[PrinceOfTheWesternDesert]

its getting hard to believe that this is a forum with experienced people on it,,
the question was "biggest" not baddest, or most agressive,,,
you can go to the los angeles zoo(as i did many times),,or the san diego zoo,, and you can walk from cage to cage,, and you can see, stellars, harpy, and african hawk eagles, and philipine monkey eating eagles,, all within 5 min walk from eachother,,also,, ornates, and several other species,,,
i have seen them all,, all in the same day,, and im wondering where all these opinions are coming from?the monkey eater strikes me,,as biggest, but, the difference in size, between the harpy, and the monkey eater, where not that significant,,
now.,,which one scared the hell out of me? harpy,, hands down,,
i have never seen an african hawk eagle that was close to the size of a golden,, i have never seen any evidence that they take adult babboons,,
i actually think the hawkeagles are neat,, but far from being the badasses that the harpy,and monkey eater are,,,
in fact,,i would assume harpys eat hawkeagles

[PitBullOne]

I thinks its the crownd eagle but not totally sure. But i swear tiger is the largest lol

the crowned is not particularly big females hunt around 7 pounds,what they lack in size ,they make up in power,
i think you are right about tig

[Phoenix1]

in the uk a white tailed sea eagle is probably larger than most female goldies

[phoenix123]

for the absolute average it Is the stellers sea eagle. this one female caught and banded weighed 31 lbs and was sooooo agresive that they could olny get her weight and no other measurements withought hurting this beautiful speciman

[EagleInYarak]

Sorry, but in terms of strenght and agresivity, the african crowned eagle, despite it's smaller frame is a more formidable eagle than the harpy eagle !
Everybody is amazed by the harpy capabilityes of snatching innofesive sloths from the trees or catching howler monkeys !
What about the african crowned eagle who kill baboons ? can anybody compare the mighty huge fanged baboon with the harpy preys ? timide howlesr, and capucin monkeys alongside sloths ?
and harpy is not capable lifting in the air prey that weights more than half of its weight,
On the other side crowned eagles is certified flyng with pey that weighted three times more than crowned eagle's weight !
I'v seen this on Animal Planet in a contest about Earth's most powerfull animals !
Back to the largest eagles, the largest is Steller, the longest is Philippine eagle ang in terms of strenght i sincere belive that harpy is outnumbered by crowned eagle.
hahahahahah u believe animal planet hahahahahahahahaha:rolleyes:

[EagleMan]

No, I intend to belive an teenager like you....

[JuliaK]

A goldie can also kill prey thats 4,5 times heavier than itself(4kg goldie can kill a 20kg deer).
But it can't carry it- so I think Crowned can't carry those Baboons that far.
Strongest bird is defo the Harpy..But no one knows it right I think as it has never been any test or something about it.
Crowned Eagles are also very strong,I've never seen one in a Zoo or something but I've seen a Harpy and those Feet were HUGE.

[Doug l]

On the other side crowned eagles is certified flyng with pey that weighted three times more than crowned eagle's weight !

see quotes from member HawkEagle below.......... his WEIGHT TRAINED 4.2kgs crowned eagle could not carry over 3kgs.
harpy beats that!!
Better to take the word of HawkEagle over Animal Planet anyday, he owns some of them birds. :supz:

Crowned eagles are extremely powerful but a lot of thing like carry load of 11kgs is totally a myth. I weight train my bird and I am sure she could not carry anymore than 3kgs off the ground.
My bird weight 4.2 when fat. I can not see anything special about crowned eagle lifting capability.

[EagleInYarak]

No, I intend to belive an teenager like you....

dont believe me believe Hawkeagle who actually has multiple crowned eagles as u well know and as stated in the post directly above
need i say more:box:harpy beats crowned in weight lifting ability:box::box:

[Jeremy Kumagai]

http://www.haribon.org.ph/?q=node/view/117

heres the largest eagle in the world

[EagleMan]

http://www.haribon.org.ph/?q=node/view/117

heres the largest eagle in the world

It's actually the longest.
Philippine eagle is slimmer and thinner than harpy and Steller's.

[EagleInYarak]

http://www.haribon.org.ph/?q=node/view/117

heres the largest eagle in the world
may be but in no way as strong or deadly as the harpy!!!:box::box::box:

[RyanP]

Harpy eagle

[richeyhughes]

I believe the Phillipine is the biggest "True Eagle" because (correct me if I am wrong) the characteristics of a True Eagle are completely feathered legs? And something to do with their mouth going past the corner of their eye.

I dunno, what with True species and subspecies, it sure makes bird classification complicated.

I think most of the eagles from the tropics don't have feathered legs? But they're still eagles all the same.

[richeyhughes]

I guess as most falconers judge the size of there birds by the weight.........then the heaviest wins...........Harpy!

[HallBeck]

I think most of the eagles from the tropics don't have feathered legs? But they're still eagles all the same.

The word "eagle" covers a number of different types of eagle - sea eagles, serpent eagles, hawk eagles etc etc.

A true eagle is an eagle from the genus Aquila - one of the characteristics from this species is feathered legs. However, as i understand it these feathered legs are not regarded as being typical of non tropical species. The African Hawk Eagle and the Bonellis Eagle, for instance both live in hot countries - they both have feathered tarsi and as far as i know they have both been recently classified as Aquila eagles.

[HallBeck]

I guess as most falconers judge the size of there birds by the weight.........then the heaviest wins...........Harpy!

I have seen a fair few Harpys and they never seemed that big to me.

[Raseni]

I still go for the stellers sea eagle, that a big bird. I flew a small female, she flew at 13pounds.

posted the picture on here before

me with the 3 year old female after she had taken a swimm in the little stream.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/raseni/DSC00069.jpg

cheers
Rasmus

[HallBeck]

I still go for the stellers sea eagle, that a big bird. I flew a small female, she flew at 13pounds.

posted the picture on here before

me with the 3 year old female after she had taken a swimm in the little stream.


cheers
Rasmus

I would tend to agree. Every Stellars i have seen has been big.

Looks like Martin Jones eagle glove you have there!

[Raseni]

yep is a martin jones triple layer eagle glove, but it hurts a LOT when she sqeezes your arm even with a big glove on.

Concerning the size, I think the stellers is the biggest, but definately not the most powerfull. I would more put my mone on the philippine eagle, Papua NG harpy, or the harpy eagle, maybe african crowned. they are definately all very powerfull eagles, but they also hunt actively, most sea eagles will scavenge if they can find enough. Though I know all raptors are opportunists, I think sea eagles are more prone to scavenging.

cheers
Rasmus

[HallBeck]

yep is a martin jones triple layer eagle glove, but it hurts a LOT when she sqeezes your arm even with a big glove on.

Concerning the size, I think the stellers is the biggest, but definately not the most powerfull. I would more put my mone on the philippine eagle, Papua NG harpy, or the harpy eagle, maybe african crowned. they are definately all very powerfull eagles, but they also hunt actively, most sea eagles will scavenge if they can find enough. Though I know all raptors are opportunists, I think sea eagles are more prone to scavenging.

cheers
Rasmus

The Harpy has the most massive feet i have ever seen on a bird. The Crowned isn't too far behind. Never seen a Phillipine so can't comment.

[EagleInYarak]

The Harpy has the most massive feet i have ever seen on a bird. The Crowned isn't too far behind. Never seen a Phillipine so can't comment.

aye aye i agree;)

[Banner]

wow what a big birds you have there.
Not big birds we have here. Most are medium sized. GReat to know that there are a lot of big bird there.

[Blueagle]

Hi everybody!

I just like to contribute in this very interesting forum about the great Philippine Eagle formerly known as the Monkey-eating eagle.
One of the rarest, tallest, largest and most powerful eagles in the world.

Philippine eagles are oppurtunistic hunters they will take almost anything that is available and vulnerable from a small bat to 30 lb deer; however food habits varies due to different faunal composititon and seasons of availability of prey in the island the eagles inhabit.


link:http://birdbase.hokkaido-ies.go.jp/rdb/rdb_en/pithjeff.pdf

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/424706437_2831f66edb.jpg

It's a remarkable specie

The remarkability of the bird lay as much in its great taxonomic distinctiveness as in its size and success in avoiding discovery for so many years, and Ogilvie Grant's new genus, Pithecophaga, "monkey-eater", reflected the rather unusual food-habits Whitehead reported. He may well have assumed that this habit was directly related to the evolution of the bird's most notable character, namely "the extraordinary shape and size of the bill", the depth of which "is greater than that of any known bird of prey, except Pallas's [= Steller's] Sea-Eagle (Haliaëtus pelagicus), in which it is sometimes a trifle greater, while such extreme narrowness, compared with the depth, is quite unique in birds of this order". Although he thought the species most closely allied to the Harpy Eagle Harpia harpyja or to the genus Harpyhaliaetus, noting the similarity of structure and size of the legs, feet and talons of these birds, he found that in Pithecophaga "the skull is enormous, very much larger than that of the Harpy.

link:http://www.orientalbirdclub.org/publications/bullfeats/phleagle.html

It's the largest in terms of size and perhaps the Most powerful eagle in the world. As recorded taking a female monkey carrying it in one foot, a 30 lb deer was found at one of the nest and attacks a large python the most agressive and longest snake in the world.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/Tallest.jpg

ATB

[MusketMad]

longest in terms of measurement head to tail tip is Phillipine Monkey Eating Eagle and heaviest is between Stellars Eagle and Harpy Eagle. I think :)
you think :D that simply isnt good enough robbie ..:D

[Graham Stuart]

Found this pic on the net, its was shot :evil: probably for food, says a Tibeten Eagle..wing span 10ft

[Blueagle]

Found this pic on the net, its was shot :evil: probably for food, says a Tibeten Eagle..wing span 10ft


I saw it too But that's no eagle It's a giant bearded vulture (Gypaetus Barbatus)

[Graham Stuart]

I saw it too But that's no eagle It's a giant bearded vulture (Gypaetus Barbatus)
I couldnt tell as its in B/W lol, im **** at identifing BOP:yawinkle:

[neutrino_cannon]

Does someone have good figures on average wingspan for Steller's Sea Eagles? If I had to guess, it would be that SSE's have about the same average mass as harpies, but longer wings since harpies are forest eagles, and forest eagles tend to have shorter wings and longer tails (a little like a scaled-up gos).

Anyway, the indisputable largest eagle of all time was New Zealand's Haast's Eagle Hieraaetus Moorei. Or Harpagornis Moorei in older texts. Or Aquila Moorei if the next big avian classification shakedown occurs.

Anyway, the females of this recently extinct species massed around 15 kg if the allometric studies are to be believed. It ate moa, which massed up to 250 kg in some species, and must have scared the first human settlers in NZ half to death.

[EagleInYarak]

true the haast was the largest
and the phillipine eagle may have the largest beak but isnt nearly as strong as a stellars
phillipine beak=soft skinned mammals
stellars beak=tough skinned salmon,and dead ceteceans

[Blueagle]

true the haast was the largest
and the phillipine eagle may have the largest beak but isnt nearly as strong as a stellars
phillipine beak=soft skinned mammals
stellars beak=tough skinned salmon,and dead ceteceans


Eagles beak and talons are one of the toughest bone of birds they are made up of keratin like your finger nails only more robust... lol! soft skinned mammals?
You don't even know much about Philippine eagles like the other two eagles, The Harpy and African cronwed eagles they are forests eagles they have short broad wings long tails for quick maneuverabilty in thick forest, these three forest eagles have adapted almost the same way in hunting, feeding and breeding ecology. They are adept in snatching monkeys and other tree dwelling animals from trees with speed and great precision without cutting flights in dense forests.

Philippine eagles hunts a variety of prey from small bat to a 30 lb deer it also feeds on monkeys, flying lemurs, palm civet, squirrels, giant cloud rats, small dogs and pigs, large birds, reptiles such as monitor lizards, large snakes like Philippine cobra and as large as a reticulated python.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/geopedia/Philippine_Eagle

Compare these prey items to the prey items that the Steller's sea eagle hunts... anybody can tell even a 5th grader of which eagles has the stronger bill or more POWERFUL... I rest my case!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/SharpBill.jpg

Just look at those sharp compressed bill like a large dagger which is unique among raptors...

and the most beautiful eagle; the only eagle specie with a bluish-gray eyes and beak.


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Blueagle

[Flea]

Hi everybody!

I just like to contribute in this very interesting forum about the great Philippine Eagle formerly known as the Monkey-eating eagle.
One of the rarest, tallest, largest and most powerful eagles in the world.

Philippine eagles are oppurtunistic hunters they will take almost anything that is available and vulnerable from a small bat to 30 lb deer; however food habits varies due to different faunal composititon and seasons of availability of prey in the island the eagles inhabit.


link:http://birdbase.hokkaido-ies.go.jp/rdb/rdb_en/pithjeff.pdf

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/424706437_2831f66edb.jpg

It's a remarkable specie

The remarkability of the bird lay as much in its great taxonomic distinctiveness as in its size and success in avoiding discovery for so many years, and Ogilvie Grant's new genus, Pithecophaga, "monkey-eater", reflected the rather unusual food-habits Whitehead reported. He may well have assumed that this habit was directly related to the evolution of the bird's most notable character, namely "the extraordinary shape and size of the bill", the depth of which "is greater than that of any known bird of prey, except Pallas's [= Steller's] Sea-Eagle (Haliaëtus pelagicus), in which it is sometimes a trifle greater, while such extreme narrowness, compared with the depth, is quite unique in birds of this order". Although he thought the species most closely allied to the Harpy Eagle Harpia harpyja or to the genus Harpyhaliaetus, noting the similarity of structure and size of the legs, feet and talons of these birds, he found that in Pithecophaga "the skull is enormous, very much larger than that of the Harpy.

link:http://www.orientalbirdclub.org/publications/bullfeats/phleagle.html

It's the largest in terms of size and perhaps the Most powerful eagle in the world. As recorded taking a female monkey carrying it in one foot, a 30 lb deer was found at one of the nest and attacks a large python the most agressive and longest snake in the world.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/Tallest.jpg

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Thanks for your post 8-)

[ReluctantTwitcher]

Compare these prey items to the prey items that the Steller's sea eagle hunts... anybody can tell even a 5th grader of which eagles has the stronger bill or more POWERFUL... I rest my case!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/SharpBill.jpg

Just look at those sharp compressed bill like a large dagger which is unique among raptors.


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Blueagle

Hi Blueagle,

To claim that Phillipine Eagles have a much stronger and more powerful beak than even the mighty Steller's Sea Eagles, is a pretty bold statement.
To argue that it is such a no-brainer as to be easily recognised by even a 5th grader is just ridiculous. The Steller's prey on a long range of species,
including thick-skinned ones. In addition to this they also use carrion, which in wintertime in their part of the world will be deep-frozen in no time.
To get meat off a deep-frozen Deer takes some power - and we're not talking 30 lbs here, rather 300!

Respectfully yours,

[EagleInYarak]

Eagles beak and talons are one of the toughest bone of birds they are made up of keratin like your finger nails only more robust... lol! soft skinned mammals?
You don't even know much about Philippine eagles like the other two eagles, The Harpy and African cronwed eagles they are forests eagles they have short broad wings long tails for quick maneuverabilty in thick forest, these three forest eagles have adapted almost the same way in hunting, feeding and breeding ecology. They are adept in snatching monkeys and other tree dwelling animals from trees with speed and great precision without cutting flights in dense forests.

Philippine eagles hunts a variety of prey from small bat to a 30 lb deer it also feeds on monkeys, flying lemurs, palm civet, squirrels, giant cloud rats, small dogs and pigs, large birds, reptiles such as monitor lizards, large snakes like Philippine cobra and as large as a reticulated python.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/geopedia/Philippine_Eagle

Compare these prey items to the prey items that the Steller's sea eagle hunts... anybody can tell even a 5th grader of which eagles has the stronger bill or more POWERFUL... I rest my case!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/SharpBill.jpg

Just look at those sharp compressed bill like a large dagger which is unique among raptors...
and the most beautiful eagle; the only eagle specie with bluish-gray eyes and beak.


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Blueagle

so u asume. so if it looks so it is so if a baboon has longer fangs than a leopard or wolf its stronger rite:roll: and i never said that eagles have weak beaks i said that the phillipine eagles beak is not as strong as the stellars and i know its made out of keratin and the stellars feet isnt nearly as strong but it has been known to rip open salmon(thats a fish) and dead cetaceans(whales,dolphins, and porpoises-the are blunt snouted and look like mini dolphins if u didnt know)

[Blueagle]

so u asume. so if it looks so it is so if a baboon has longer fangs than a leopard or wolf its stronger rite:roll: and i never said that eagles have weak beaks i said that the phillipine eagles beak is not as strong as the stellars and i know its made out of keratin and the stellars feet isnt nearly as strong but it has been known to rip open salmon(thats a fish) and dead cetaceans(whales,dolphins, and porpoises-the are blunt snouted and look like mini dolphins if u didnt know)


Take a look at their beak philippine eagles beak is compressed sharp like a steel cutter unlike Steller's eagle beak its broad though they have almost the same size in bill height... looks like it can snap a deers femur in one single bite... stellers are also scavengers like the other fish eagle coz' food in the upper north is scarce... Wow! compares a fish to reptiles such as monitor lizards (It's a large reptile up to 4 ft), snakes? a dead cetaceans doesn't move at all and if it is frozen it cannot even eat it. and the legs it's no match to Philippine eagles legs and claws. Baboons are monkeys you cannot compare them to a large cat such as leopard or wolf they are of different specie.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/Bill.jpg

[EagleInYarak]

Take a look at their beak philippine eagles beak is compressed sharp like a steel cutter unlike Steller's eagle beak its broad though they have almost the same size in bill height... looks like it can snap a deers femur in one single bite... stellers are also scavengers like the other fish eagle coz' food in the upper north is scarce... compares a fish to reptiles such as monitor lizards (It's a large reptile up to 4 ft), snakes? a dead cetaceans doesn't move at all and if it is frozen it cannot even eat it. and the legs it's no match to Philippine eagles legs and claws. Baboons are monkey you cannot compare them to a large cat such as leopard or wolf they are of different specie.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/Bill.jpg
again u say it looks like and according 2 u since baboon fangs and cat fangs belong 2 different species and u cant compare them because of that u cant compare a phillipine eagle's beak with a stellar's because they r different species and that is retarded

[Blueagle]

Hi Blueagle,

To claim that Phillipine Eagles have a much stronger and more powerful beak than even the mighty Steller's Sea Eagles, is a pretty bold statement.
To argue that it is such a no-brainer as to be easily recognised by even a 5th grader is just ridiculous. The Steller's prey on a long range of species,
including thick-skinned ones. In addition to this they also use carrion, which in wintertime in their part of the world will be deep-frozen in no time.
To get meat off a deep-frozen Deer takes some power - and we're not talking 30 lbs here, rather 300!

Respectfully yours,

The 30 lb Philippine cervus deer was found at one of the eagles nest I don't know how the eagle was able to do that?... your talking about 300 lb and what did the stellers do with it? step on it scavenge?

Actually these eagles have a very different environment what the forest eagles hunt and take you cannot find it in steller's eagles home range so as the Philippine eagle. These birds have adapted to the environment they live in otherwise they wouldn't exist; if you think the steller's sea eagle is more powerful than the Philippine eagle that's fine But for me the Philippine eagle is the most powerful.

regards,

[Blueagle]

again u say it looks like and according 2 u since baboon fangs and cat fangs belong 2 different species and u cant compare them because of that u cant compare a phillipine eagle's beak with a stellar's because they r different species and that is retarded

Yes but the point is they are both eagles you can compare a leopard to a house cat or lion or even tiger coz they belong to cat family. simple as that! okay it can snap a deers femur or your fingers or even your arms in one single bite...wanna try it?

[EagleMan]

No eagle can snap a deer femur...get serious kids...it's true that the steller posses the stongest beak aming alal eagles...but let sitck to reality...
As long as hunting boa's and pythons...let's dont't post rubbish ok ?
Any harpy or phillipine can kill a constrictor snake um to one meter, bigger that that and the eaglea will be in serious danger..

[Blueagle]

No eagle can snap a deer femur...get serious kids...it's true that the steller posses the stongest beak aming alal eagles...but let sitck to reality...
As long as hunting boa's and pythons...let's dont't post rubbish ok ?
Any harpy or phillipine can kill a constrictor snake um to one meter, bigger that that and the eaglea will be in serious danger..


Hi! eagleman'

My friend I've missed you Im sure you can recognized me from youtube?
I was able to find you here! I'm glad!...sorry! about that got carried away... It was quoted like this; "An eagle was captured by locals falling exhausted after a combat with a large python." i have no idea how "large" is large to a "large python" maybe 8-10 feet? It means it wasn't able to eat the large python.

regards,
Blueagle

[EagleMan]

Hello Blue eagle !
Nice to meet you here too !
I told you that this great forum worth !
How is the situation of Philippine eagle these days ?
Any rise of their population ?
Regarding our quest for the stronger eagle, forget abour philippine eage tryng to hunt pythons, this raptors are so endangeres and even the lossof one egale will be a tragedy for the species..
Regards !

[Blueagle]

Hello Blue eagle !
Nice to meet you here too !
I told you that this great forum worth !
How is the situation of Philippine eagle these days ?
Any rise of their population ?
Regarding our quest for the stronger eagle, forget abour philippine eage tryng to hunt pythons, this raptors are so endangeres and even the lossof one egale will be a tragedy for the species..
Regards !

Hi! Eagleman,

Thanks I appriciate it!
I think you're right the most important thing right now is how to ensure the preservation of these egales not just the Philippine eagle but also the other species of eagles in the world which most of them are in endangered list so that the next generations may also enjoy these magnificent creatures.

Philippine Eagle Foundation is making progress is now on its second phase of their projects; Release of the eagles to the selected restored forest. like the latest released of a young female eagle named "Tinuy-an" which was captured in the rainforest of Bislig and after conditioning the bird it was relocated at the protected forests of Mt. kitanglad Natural Park.
Tinuy-an is being continually monitored by field researcher so that she wont suffer the same fate of the other eagle a young male named "Kasagbua" who ventured along the forest edge and was shot and killed by a farmer.

(Tinuy-an has a picture of my previous post the juv female 7-8 mo. old)


Here's the link of the eagles post released: http://www.bislig.gov.ph/news_list_public.php?news_id=27


regards,
Blueagle

[Blueagle]

Hi Blueagle,

To claim that Phillipine Eagles have a much stronger and more powerful beak than even the mighty Steller's Sea Eagles, is a pretty bold statement.
To argue that it is such a no-brainer as to be easily recognised by even a 5th grader is just ridiculous. The Steller's prey on a long range of species, including thick-skinned ones. In addition to this they also use carrion, which in wintertime in their part of the world will be deep-frozen in no time. To get meat off a deep-frozen Deer takes some power - and we're not talking 30 lbs here, rather 300!

Respectfully yours,



I think scavenging is very far different from hunting for prey.... especially when the prey is fighting back like a monitor lizards, large snakes such as cobra and pythons especially large male monkeys weighing 7-9 kg one of the most dangerous prey for the eagle, unless it was caugth by surprise or ambush by the eagle; The eagle need to catch it from the back of the head and from the waist down, a necessarry brute force needs to be applied quickly like the power grip while pinning the prey down.

While in scavenging... you can have all the time in the world to pick the soft easy part of the frozen carcass no matter how thick or big it is, it wont really matter coz' it's dead it doesn't fights back.

Interesting Trivia

"The generic name of the Philippine Eagle, Pithecophaga, which led to its
original English name “monkey-eating”, was the result of the natives of Samar reporting that it “preys chiefly on the Green Monkeys”, and indeed the man who bestowed this name, Ogilvie Grant (1897), considered that “the worn tail and broken ends of the quills of both wings and tail no doubt bear witness to many a savage struggle amongst the branches”

"Reports stated that individual male monkeys defend the troops they lead
against attack, deliberately exposing themselves to view while the others escape, and that they appear to be too powerful for single combat, Gonzales concluded that eagles would be more successful at taking monkeys when hunting in tandem. Various locals who told Kennedy (1977) that the birds course through the forest in pairs looking for monkey, one eagle distracting a monkey while the other captures it from behind. It also tends to be borne out by the fact that Wharton exported a live eagle captured by locals after it broke its leg in a fall during a struggle with a large monkey."


Source:Threatened Birds of Asia


http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/Monkey-eatingeagle.jpg

[EagleInYarak]

I think scavenging is very far different from hunting for prey.... especially when the prey is fighting back like a monitor lizards, large snakes such as cobra and pythons especially large male monkeys weighing 7-9 kg one of the most dangerous prey for the eagle, unless it was caugth by surprise or ambush by the eagle; The eagle need to catch it from the back of the head and from the waist down, a necessarry brute force needs to be applied quickly like the power grip while pinning the prey down.

While in scavenging... you can have all the time in the world to pick the soft easy part of the frozen carcass no matter how thick or big it is, it wont really matter coz' it's dead it doesn't fights back.

Interesting Trivia

"The generic name of the Philippine Eagle, Pithecophaga, which led to its
original English name “monkey-eating”, was the result of the natives of Samar reporting that it “preys chiefly on the Green Monkeys”, and indeed the man who bestowed this name, Ogilvie Grant (1897), considered that “the worn tail and broken ends of the quills of both wings and tail no doubt bear witness to many a savage struggle amongst the branches”

"Reports stated that individual male monkeys defend the troops they lead
against attack, deliberately exposing themselves to view while the others escape, and that they appear to be too powerful for single combat, Gonzales concluded that eagles would be more successful at taking monkeys when hunting in tandem. Various locals who told Kennedy (1977) that the birds course through the forest in pairs looking for monkey, one eagle distracting a monkey while the other captures it from behind. It also tends to be borne out by the fact that Wharton exported a live eagle captured by locals after it broke its leg in a fall during a struggle with a large monkey."


Source:Threatened Birds of Asia


http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/mulawin2007/Monkey-eatingeagle.jpg

he's talking about beak power not talon/grip force

p.s. cool phillipine eagle combat pics

[BillyWilson]

The biggest eagle in the world i always thought the phillipines but ,what a bout the stellas sea eagle from what i know females wheigh over the eighteen pound mark , now i might be wrong but all i know is they or huge in comparason to the goldie .

[BillyWilson]

Sorry did.nt read all of the posts and i found quite a few people said the stellas .

[Blueagle]

he's talking about beak power not talon/grip force

p.s. cool phillipine eagle combat pics


I know and Philippine eagle has a stronger sharper beak compare to Steller's eagle by the sheer shape and size like in the design of (strenght of materials) (if you understand what I'm saying?) the compressed shape beak is stronger than to a more broad shaped beak, they use it down wards and not sideways to puncture and cut into the bones, flesh and ligaments of their prey.

Steller's sea sea eagles are basically fish eagles meaning it feeds primarily or largely on fish like salmon and trouts... Not really much impressive they are heavy in fact the heaviest eagle in the world coz' they live in an extreme weather condition they need to accumulate body fats needed to withstand cold weather.

They gorge themselves with sometimes dead salmon; there was even a documented female which gorge itself on salmon that weighs around 28 lb as almost everyone knows (Thanks to Discovery and NatGeo Channel) salmon dies after they bred and laid their eggs. Stellers also scavange on dead mammals to survive in a harsh cold weather. like the other fish eagles such as Bald eagles and the White-tailed sea eagle also a fish eagle but sometimes it also prey on (live) lambs, birds and small mammals.

Thanks and have a great day!

regards

[Blueagle]

The biggest eagle in the world i always thought the phillipines but ,what a bout the stellas sea eagle from what i know females wheigh over the eighteen pound mark , now i might be wrong but all i know is they or huge in comparason to the goldie .

The HEAVIEST is considered to be the Largest which goes to the Steller's sea Eagle averaging 15-20 lb.

The Great Philippine Eagle is the Largest in terms size or Physical dimensions... The tallest with the longest legs and claws eagle probably the longest 95-112 cm from the tip of the bill to the longest tail feathers a larger bill and skull also has the largest wing surface area among all the living eagles and one of the 198 most critically endangered birds in the world.

link: http://www.haribon.org.ph/?q=node/view/117

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Blueagle

[EagleInYarak]

[quote=Blueagle;954670]I know and Philippine eagle has a stronger sharper beak compare to Steller's eagle by the sheer shape and size like in the design of (strenght of materials) (if you understand what I'm saying?) the compressed shape beak is stronger than to a more broad shaped beak, they use it down wards and not sideways to puncture and cut into the bones, flesh and ligaments of their prey.

makes sense