How to boost eaglet's appetite???

[Java Falconer]

Hi guys, I've got an eaglet (now is in brancher stage), she eats only a little, till she is kind of thin. Do you think when she is able to fly, her appetite will boast?

I'm just afraid that she can't gain weight later on, like eagle of her age & species did :confused:


Thanks!

[Tasha55403]

You might try chopping her food up into small pieces so it's really easy to eat-not much tearing involved, just grabbing and swallowing. That works very well with sharpshins I've found. I was able drop my sharpie's weight almost down to hunting weight this spring just by giving her food she had to pick at. She's spoiled and lazy:lol:

[Tasha55403]

Many small meals throughout the day (make sure the previous meal has been put over by feeling the crop-you don't want her to get sour crop) also works better than one big gorge, also. You might want to get a fecal done, if possible to check for internal parasites that might be causing the poor weight gain. Do her mutes look good?

[Java Falconer]

Thanks Tasha for the feedback!

I guess her dropping is good. Just that she can't really eat a lot in a day like normal one. Usually she only eats once and her crop will stay longer, not digested fast. Does this is a sign of illness? I guess not, my opinion is that she doesn't like to eat a lot in a day. She had flu anyway, I've given her medication. Seems cured, but when she eats, her nostrils are watery again. Any good medication for this kind of flu?

Oh yeah, anyone here have had a raptor which the last two secondary don't connect to the first primary? Mine is that way, if I observed, those two secondary (of both wings) are kind of badly grown, so they kind of dropping, lower in position than the others. Do you think those feathers will okay when they are hard-pinned or perhaps when they are moulted?



Tx!

[Tasha55403]

Thanks Tasha for the feedback!

I guess her dropping is good. Just that she can't really eat a lot in a day like normal one. Usually she only eats once and her crop will stay longer, not digested fast. Does this is a sign of illness? I guess not, my opinion is that she doesn't like to eat a lot in a day. She had flu anyway, I've given her medication. Seems cured, but when she eats, her nostrils are watery again. Any good medication for this kind of flu?

Oh yeah, anyone here have had a raptor which the last two secondary don't connect to the first primary? Mine is that way, if I observed, those two secondary (of both wings) are kind of badly grown, so they kind of dropping, lower in position than the others. Do you think those feathers will okay when they are hard-pinned or perhaps when they are moulted?Tx!

Well, at the brancher stage you really don't want her to drop weight-she should be growing still. Especially if she's not hard-penned yet you want to be sure she's getting plenty of food to avoid fret marks on her feathers. Is it really hot and humid where you are? That can suppress the appetite in most anyone. Medications and illness can also suppress the appetite and could cause the feathers to grow in badly. If she's been sick you should probably bring her to a vet to get her checked out, especially if you're still seeing discharge from the nostrils. That doesn't sound too good.

[Java Falconer]

Well, at the brancher stage you really don't want her to drop weight-she should be growing still. Especially if she's not hard-penned yet you want to be sure she's getting plenty of food to avoid fret marks on her feathers. Is it really hot and humid where you are? That can suppress the appetite in most anyone. Medications and illness can also suppress the appetite and could cause the feathers to grow in badly. If she's been sick you should probably bring her to a vet to get her checked out, especially if you're still seeing discharge from the nostrils. That doesn't sound too good.

Yep, that's what happened, some feathers are having stress marking. But, I guess that's not a problem, only minor, not much of her feathers had it.

Now it is hot, as it is dry season already, but still raining some days. This worries me, as the weather is not good both for human and animal.

Okay, I'll do what you say. Thanks a lot Tasha for you're the only one who reply my thread... ;)

[Tasha55403]

Yeah, what's up with that? Plenty of people have read the thread but not a single reply other than me???

[Bones]

Yeah, what's up with that? Plenty of people have read the thread but not a single reply other than me???

I appologise for not replying to the question/thread but i dont see myself with enough knowledge to answer your questions regarding the bird so i thought i would leave it to those with more knowledge then myself mate but read the thread outta curiousty ok

PAUL

[Tasha55403]

That wasn't directed at you specifically, but there are a lot of good, experienced folks that have looked at the thread but haven't said anything. I can't believe they all agree with what I've said. If they have I think I should win an award or something-that would have to be a first to have that many falconers agree on something:lol:

[Pitbull]

Yeah, what's up with that? Plenty of people have read the thread but not a single reply other than me???
I think it would help also with a more detailed start. ie how its feed, what its fed, whens it fed etc etc. Even the type of eagle it is.
By no means am I knowledgable to answer the question. But if someone can give the right answer to a short question like this 1, it would be luck Im sure.

[Tasha55403]

I think it would help also with a more detailed start. ie how its feed, what its fed, whens it fed etc etc. Even the type of eagle it is.
By no means am I knowledgable to answer the question. But if someone can give the right answer to a short question like this 1, it would be luck Im sure.

Very true, for some reason I was looking at it just as "How can I get a bird to gain weight?". At any rate, I'm still surprised no one at least asked those questions. Usually folks are a bit chattier on here;-) :lol:

[TLDWB]

Difficult to say exactly what is needed here, theres been some good advice given already. There perhaps some underlying factors here regards the birds overall health. Tasha has perhaps pointed out what needs to be done next.

Tom

[Java Falconer]

I think it would help also with a more detailed start. ie how its feed, what its fed, whens it fed etc etc. Even the type of eagle it is.
By no means am I knowledgable to answer the question. But if someone can give the right answer to a short question like this 1, it would be luck Im sure.

Sorry for not giving details before.

The eagle is Indian Black Eagle (Ictinaetus malayensis) > pic is in my avatar ;)

I feed her daily at ten a.m. and at about 3 p.m. with quail, pigeon, dove, guinea pig.

Hope this helps... :yawinkle:

[HawkEagle]

Thanks Tasha for the feedback!

I guess her dropping is good. Just that she can't really eat a lot in a day like normal one. Usually she only eats once and her crop will stay longer, not digested fast. Does this is a sign of illness? I guess not, my opinion is that she doesn't like to eat a lot in a day. She had flu anyway, I've given her medication. Seem cured, but when she eats, her nostrils are watery again. Any good medication for this kind of flu?

Oh yeah, anyone here have had a raptor which the last two secondary don't connect to the first primary? Mine is that way, if I observed, those two secondary (of both wings) are kind of badly grown, so they kind of dropping, lower in position than the others. Do you think those feathers will okay when they are hard-pinned or perhaps when they are moulted?



Tx!

Watery nostrils when eating is not a sign of flu. It's her slivar with appitite. If her appitite is so abnormal I'll try to see if she is indeed ill. Otherwise you can give her rich food like ducks and chicken liver. If you use pure liver calcium supplement must be added.

[Java Falconer]

Watery nostrils when eating is not a sign of flu. It's her slivar with appitite. If her appitite is so abnormal I'll try to see if she is indeed ill. Otherwise you can give her rich food like ducks and chicken liver. If you use pure liver calcium supplement must be added.

Well actually she had flu before, it is true. Her nostrils were blocked and now is clear just that watery when eating. All I can think about is how her flu is not cured after all this time and the medication I gave her. Sorry, but I can't seem to understand that bolded sentence.

Liver she doesn't like a lot, except if it is from the baggies.


Anyway, I don't know whether her appetite doesn't seem normal or not. So, what about having only one guinea pig or a dove or a pigeon or 2 quails in a day? I'm worried because my Peregrine before could finish more.

[Tasha55403]

I don't know about the rest of it (I have no idea how much a young eaglet of any kind would eat), but he means that the bird is salivating when it eats. In other words, it's drooling. Which is nothing serious, in fact, it's perfectly normal. With the bird's history of being sick, though, it's hard to say if it's just salivating or if there's something still wrong with it without being able to look at it.

[Java Falconer]

I don't know about the rest of it (I have no idea how much a young eaglet of any kind would eat), but he means that the bird is salivating when it eats. In other words, it's drooling. Which is nothing serious, in fact, it's perfectly normal. With the bird's history of being sick, though, it's hard to say if it's just salivating or if there's something still wrong with it without being able to look at it.

Sorry for being ignorance, but do you mean the watery nostrils > her saliva?
I'm still new at the health section, never had the same case / problem before. But, I'm learning through experience. Somehow, this case will help me gain more knowledge regarding raptor health.

Thanks for your help Tasha, your reply mean a lot to me ;)

[RedNoseK9]

Yes the water from the nostrils and or drippin of the end oe the beak is normal i have seen many eagles do this and it is worrying but seems normal mate

wez

[Java Falconer]

Yes the water from the nostrils and or drippin of the end oe the beak is normal i have seen many eagles do this and it is worrying but seems normal mate

wez

This relieves me a lot m8! Thanks!

I never know about this before. Training eagle is still new to me.
I thought that she has a prolonged flu. Once her flu is cured, I still give the medication for three days like my vet has told me. The medicine is the same, and I gave her again after about 1 week from the prev. one. This because I told her that she still drop water from her nostrils when she eats and looks down for tearing the prey apart. Anti-biotic is not working properly after 3 days of usage rite.

[RedNoseK9]

I would stop the antibiotics as they are not needed mate from what u have said

wez

[HawkEagle]

Well actually she had flu before, it is true. Her nostrils were blocked and now is clear just that watery when eating. All I can think about is how her flu is not cured after all this time and the medication I gave her. Sorry, but I can't seem to understand that bolded sentence.

Liver she doesn't like a lot, except if it is from the baggies.


Anyway, I don't know whether her appetite doesn't seem normal or not. So, what about having only one guinea pig or a dove or a pigeon or 2 quails in a day? I'm worried because my Peregrine before could finish more.

That's way normal m8. My Blyth's hawk eagle needs less than half a quail a day to sustain weight while my crowned eagle needs less than 2 quails. Weather affect food consumption. Birds in hot climate need less food than cold. I think you worry because at this stage you can still feel keel bone quite sharply and the bird looks thin that's because the bird is still growing.

[Java Falconer]

I would stop the antibiotics as they are not needed mate from what u have said

wez

Yep, I've stop the antibiotics. She is now fine, I can say it because the water from her nostrils is proved not related to her flu ;)

[Java Falconer]

That's way normal m8. My Blyth's hawk eagle needs less than half a quail a day to sustain weight while my crowned eagle needs less than 2 quails. Weather affect food consumption. Birds in hot climate need less food than cold. I think you worry because at this stage you can still feel keel bone quite sharply and the bird looks thin that's because the bird is still growing.

Yep, you're right HawkEagle!

I was worried because the case is different from falcon or accipiter which seems to eat a lot. Well, maybe it is true that eagles mature slower as they are big, so they are totally different from those falcons and accipiters.

To all: Many thanks for the info and help! I'm relieved now!

[Tanin]

Best of luck Bobby..

[Java Falconer]

Best of luck Bobby..

Many thanks Tanin! ;)