Imprinted for one person only

[Java Falconer]

Sorry guys if this question sounds silly, but I need to know your opinion.

Can we imprint a bird and make it as one person bird? Good with us, but afraid to others?

What makes me to ask this question is because the condition of people here in my country is not really as good as yours. To cut it short, they know nothing about raptor, even about Falconry. Then when they see a raptor flies over, they will try to catch it using every possible ways. If the bird is not afraid to people, except me, it will cause disaster...

[MattSpar]

Sorry guys if this question sounds silly, but I need to know your opinion.

Can we imprint a bird and make it as one person bird? Good with us, but afraid to others?

What makes me to ask this question is because the condition of people here in my country is not really as good as yours. To cut it short, they know nothing about raptor, even about Falconry. Then when they see a raptor flies over, they will try to catch it using every possible ways. If the bird is not afraid to people, except me, it will cause disaster...

That's a shame. The answer is "No", which is also a shame.
If you imprint a bird it will be pretty fearless with everyone. Even if you man a non-imprint so it sees only you, it will still be less afraid of strangers than would a wild bird and if what you say about the attitude to hawks in your country is true, it doesn't bode well.

[Amews]

Why is it neccessary to imprint. Get a wild caught or parent reared bird. As was (until recently) the norm.

[Tasha55403]

I've got an imprint sharpy that's scared of anyone but me. I can't tell you how to do it, though. I wish I knew how it happened so I could avoid it in the future, but...yes, it is possible.

[Tasha55403]

She IS less afraid of people than a wild-caught bird, but unless she's on a non-carryable kill noone is going to get all that close to her. However, they COULD get close enough to shoot her.

[SSL]

I've got an imprint sharpy that's scared of anyone but me. I can't tell you how to do it, though. I wish I knew how it happened so I could avoid it in the future, but...yes, it is possible.

Probably more socialising with others would cure this Tasha, though you say he is scared of others, does he act in the same manner as a wild Sharpy would? Or will he just become unresponsive and refuse slips when in the company of strangers?

As Matt stated trained hawks would tolerate people to a greater extent than a totally untouch wild hawk.

Steve.

[Java Falconer]

Thanks for all feedbacks...

I know it sounds silly and why should I do it, but circumstances make me. I believe, still there is a way to achieve this. Somehow, my bird will mantle if she is eating and saw other people closing by (except me), meaning that they are threat and not me...???

[Tasha55403]

Probably more socialising with others would cure this Tasha, though you say he is scared of others, does he act in the same manner as a wild Sharpy would? Or will he just become unresponsive and refuse slips when in the company of strangers?

As Matt stated trained hawks would tolerate people to a greater extent than a totally untouch wild hawk.

Steve.

She does tolerate people better than a passage bird. Basically, if someone comes too close she'll bate away-how close seems to be proportional to how close she is to hunting weight, but at hunting weight I don't know how close is too close. I've avoided flying her with people so I couldn't say whether she would take off or just try to hide. I remember once last year a couple people walked under the tree she was in (she was a good 20-30 feet up in a well-leafed out maple). She didn't take off, but she didn't come down till after they had left. Of course, by that time I already knew she was fat anyways, so I couldn't say how much of that was weight. Similarly, she's scared of cars when she's fat. After hunting a bit last year she chased a sparrow around a car idling at a turn signal, then tried to land on the car idling behind it:roll: So, she might be ok when she's down to a keen hunting weight after we've gotten back in the groove of hunting again. More socializing doesn't really seem to help any. I messed up around hard-penning with her and that's where it shows-a fear of people, cars, loud things, etc. Not enough that I can't go hawking, but I can't take her out with people either.

Back on topic, I think this is a problem that would be very, very difficult to solve. If only because anyone that really wanted the bird, would just have to put out a trap for it. You can trap a wild bird plenty easy, trapping a captive-raised one certainly wouldn't be any more difficult. There are many traps where the person doesn't even have to be present, so a fear of strange people isn't really going to help much, if at all.

[Java Falconer]

She does tolerate people better than a passage bird. Basically, if someone comes too close she'll bate away-how close seems to be proportional to how close she is to hunting weight, but at hunting weight I don't know how close is too close. I've avoided flying her with people so I couldn't say whether she would take off or just try to hide. I remember once last year a couple people walked under the tree she was in (she was a good 20-30 feet up in a well-leafed out maple). She didn't take off, but she didn't come down till after they had left. Of course, by that time I already knew she was fat anyways, so I couldn't say how much of that was weight. Similarly, she's scared of cars when she's fat. After hunting a bit last year she chased a sparrow around a car idling at a turn signal, then tried to land on the car idling behind it:roll: So, she might be ok when she's down to a keen hunting weight after we've gotten back in the groove of hunting again. More socializing doesn't really seem to help any. I messed up around hard-penning with her and that's where it shows-a fear of people, cars, loud things, etc. Not enough that I can't go hawking, but I can't take her out with people either.

Back on topic, I think this is a problem that would be very, very difficult to solve. If only because anyone that really wanted the bird, would just have to put out a trap for it. You can trap a wild bird plenty easy, trapping a captive-raised one certainly wouldn't be any more difficult. There are many traps where the person doesn't even have to be present, so a fear of strange people isn't really going to help much, if at all.

Yep, you got point Tasha!!!
But, maybe my idea won't really connected with the idea of imprinting. Imprinting supposed to make a bird afraid of nothing rite. Perhaps, it could be fun also if we have imprinted bird and she only devoted to one person only and that is the falconer. Maybe still not afraid of anything, but has some kind of defense against unwanted people. Indeed, it is easy to trap a wild bird, or even the captive breed or imprinted one. But, if our imprinted bird still show a 'little' refusal to be closed by people she doesn't familiar with, it will be safer for her :yawinkle:

Or maybe show a 'little' fear against cars will be good too. Once I noticed a bird which is imprinted and almost being hit by a car. She doesn't react to the car closing in. Not afraid, doesn't mean to put life in danger rite.

This kind of idea maybe could improve the technique of imprinting in the future :supz:

[Imprint Falcon]

We have a male imprint Goldie that is absolutly fine with everyone except me. God only knows why but he hates me. I've never done anything to him and he's fine with people who look similer to me. I've no idea how it happened but I wish I could reverse it. We didn't imprint him though.

[Java Falconer]

We have a male imprint Goldie that is absolutly fine with everyone except me. God only knows why but he hates me. I've never done anything to him and he's fine with people who look similer to me. I've no idea how it happened but I wish I could reverse it. We didn't imprint him though.

This is very strange...some imprinted birds really showed some oddities to us though...

I was thinking what would dual imprint birds be towards people they don't familiar with???