TinyLoc Telemetry

[Hawkmaster]

A BIG welcome to TinyLoc Animal Radio Location & Telemetry Systems for signing up to the IFF as Official Sponsors.

TinyLoc is a technological company aimed to the manufacturing of digital telemetry and radio tracking for animals.

Their products are successfully used worldwide in different fields such as falconry and hawking, hunting with dogs and wildlife preservation.

Since their systems are conceived and developed by their own engineers side by side with end users to properly answer to their requests and needs. Our equipments also respect the law in the countries where we market them: CE sign in Europe and 433 MHz (the ONLY legal band in Europe). Also equipments in 216 are available in those countries in which this band is the legal one.

I did two test with this system at the Festival and on the first occasion everyone was pratting about so it was not a real test. On the second occasion it was so convincing that the gentleman I was doing it with not just took advantage of a great festival one off offer of £490 for a complete system in its box but also bought two extra transmitters!

Guys and girls you now have the opportunity to ask Daniel as many questions as you like and find out more about this well price quality stem and how it can be of use to you!

Daniel, many thanks for supporting our site and welcome on board!

please use this link to see more http://www.tinyloc.com

Regards
International Falconry Forum

[RedNoseK9]

Welccome aboard guys enjoyed the tests you did and you were both alot of fun on the evening.

Wez

[GaryPCO]

Welcome to the forum guys i hope not only do you enjoy coming here and using the forum you also do great buisiness throughout it!

with the great products you have im sure this is only the start of a great sponsorship!

the best of luck guys!

[Claire]

welcome aboard, I was very impressed with the little demo at the festival, and think that the digital readout of signal strength is a brilliant idea.

[Hawkmaster]

Here are pictures of the TinyLoc lads at the IFF BBQ!
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x4/mass2k7/tl.jpg

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=619835&postcount=87:supz:

[Kevin Massey]

Welcome aboard:supz:


Paul do they still want Jim (outflying) to test the system as discussed?

I know he ws asking about this system a little while back aswell...
I really want to like this system...its compact and seems accurate aswell.

It would be brilliant to have some first hand feedback aswell:idea:

[Hawkmaster]

Yes the gents are going to do this!

[Martin Whitley]

Wecome to the IFF.

Good Timing, I'm looking to completley change my system, has any one done any tests in hilly country, with long wings?
I love the sieze of the reciever, but I would need to know how good it would be on a bad area (Dartmoor)

[FlameHairedFalconer]

Welcome to the forum Daniel and Tinyloc

Unfortunately I didnt get to visit your stand at the festival for longer than 30 seconds, but I am very interested in your system for longwings.

Hope to hear more from you shortly

FHF

[TinyLoc - Dani]

Hi guys!
Thank you very much for your welcome! We really enjoyed the Festival!
I hope we can help you in anyway. I'll be hanging around the telemetry room so if you need anything or you have any doubt just post it there or PM me. Me or anyone here will try to answer you asap.

I hope we finally could do the Telemetry test with the Forum. I think it's necessary that all the falconers knew by sure in what are they spending their money. I think that the quality brands (Marshall, Luxander, etc...) will be interested too.

AAA, I don't know if I told it but Chelsea supporters will be charged with an extra 5% more... (just joking............or not)

[Martin Whitley]

Hi guys!
I hope we finally could do the Telemetry test with the Forum. I think it's necessary that all the falconers knew by sure in what are they spending their money. I think that the quality brands (Marshall, Luxander, etc...) will be interested too.


I would be more than happy to test/compare it with my marshall set up which has actually worked as it should for a whole month now

[Gareth]

The TinyLoc stand @ the Festival :-)

[Sprout]

Welcome. Just been thinking of changing to the dark side and going "legal" - always used 216 Marshalls - hope to hear good reports of your telemetry as need a good reason to change from a product that has never let me down.

[LongVVing]

Im on a 173Mhz falconry electronics system and am looking to get a second system on a different frequency. I dont want to get a 216Mhz system so a 433Mhz may be a good alternative.

Do you do a trial/purchase option?

Mark

[OutFlying]

Welcome aboard:supz:


Paul do they still want Jim (outflying) to test the system as discussed?

I know he ws asking about this system a little while back aswell...
I really want to like this system...its compact and seems accurate aswell.

It would be brilliant to have some first hand feedback aswell:idea:


I would look forward to testing it, comparison against major brand receivers and transmitters possible and an unbiased field report on completion.

Jim.

[Ben C]

They use them in croatia...but the landscape is vastly different than here. It would be good for a second back up device, nice and portable.

It also need to go up against FALCONRY ELECTRONICS gear methinks.

[Big JoeJoe]

Really good to have you guys on the forum. I look forward to hear how this product progresses, and I hope you ae successful.

Cheers Joe

[Turumti]

I strongly support the idea of field testing all the different receivers and transmitters available on the market today, especially the highly advertised ones. A telemetry system is a major purchase for most falconers, so apart from the marketing hype that is put out, there should be some real world testing as well, on which we can base our decisions.

(For the most part, one doesnt know what one is getting in a telemetry system, until one buys its and uses it).

[OutFlying]

Will be able to compare to Field Marshall, Luksander MN 10, Falconry Electronics (Wildlife Materials Inc) receivers.

All major transmitters inc the new MX transmitter from Merlin systems.

Just hope to be able to trial it in this country.

Jim.

[Ben C]

Just don't put them all on at once mate as the hawk wont leave the ground...:lol:

[Kevin Massey]

Dani

At the festival you said about 2 of our members testing out the system and giving back a review (Outflying and Rednosek9)....Did you ever sort this with them?
I know of a few waiting on this review of this system including myself:idea:

[Midge]

I'm about to invest in a Telemetry set .........................now , which one ?
Come on guys I need the results of the test to help me make my mind up or else I'm going for a Marshals.

[Hawkmaster]

I have tested a system and still am, with Phi Marshall, RioHawk and some others on the forum and all we can say is wow it is a great little system but still want to do more with it before we give a full report.

So far it has out stripped any 433 system we have ever tested.

Performs better than some systems in various circumstances like the obvious in cars.

It has a really nifty trick up its sleeve that is almost too good to belief hence the MORE testing.

So far in the Torbay area 4 people have seen it and are in contact with TinyLoc to purchase a set!:supz:

[Kevin Massey]

I have tested a system and still am, with Phi Marshall, RioHawk and some others on the forum and all we can say is wow it is a great little system but still want to do more with it before we give a full report.

So far it has out stripped any 433 system we have ever tested.

Performs better than some systems in various circumstances like the obvious in cars.

It has a really nifty trick up its sleeve that is almost too good to belief hence the MORE testing.

So far in the Torbay area 4 people have seen it and are in contact with TinyLoc to purchase a set!:supz:
So what you are saying paul is you are the only forum meber testing this system for review?

[Hawkmaster]

No there are several of us:lol:

[Kevin Massey]

No there are several of us:lol:


Ahhhhh ok

[Hawkmaster]

And Martin from Dartmoor Hawking too SOON!;)

[Kevin Massey]

And Martin from Dartmoor Hawking too SOON!;)

I thought he bought one.... maybe they are scared to let a system loose with Jim and Wes? bit to direct and to the point...... may not like what they have to say:lol: :lol: ;)

[Hawkmaster]

I think you are trying to make too much of a big deal of it!

There are systems out there and not everyone is going to get one to test straight away.

What efforts have others made to do the same?

Sounds like you want to damn things before actually taking a serious and open mind look at it.

Here is one for you I challenge any manufacture out there to bring their system up against the TinyLoc and we will go stand behind some big hills that are covered in trees with the transmitter pulsing from behind them when NO signal can be heard with any of the 4 other system receivers we have tried BUT the TinyLoc will still show you the correct way to go!

Please mate be patient.:lol:

[Sparrow Hawker]

I'd be interested in having a go with one and see what it's like?

Cheers,

SH

[Sparrow Hawker]

I think you are trying to make too much of a big deal of it!

There are systems out there and not everyone is going to get one to test straight away.

What efforts have others made to do the same?

Sounds like you want to damn things before actually taking a serious and open mind look at it.

Here is one for you I challenge any manufacture out there to bring their system up against the TinyLoc and we will go stand behind some big hills that are covered in trees with the transmitter pulsing from behind them when NO signal can be heard with any of the 4 other system receivers we have tried BUT the TinyLoc will still show you the correct way to go!

Please mate be patient.:lol:

What other 4 system receivers have you tried Paul?

Cheers,

SH

[Kevin Massey]

I think you are trying to make too much of a big deal of it!

There are systems out there and not everyone is going to get one to test straight away.

What efforts have others made to do the same?

Sounds like you want to damn things before actually taking a serious and open mind look at it.

Here is one for you I challenge any manufacture out there to bring their system up against the TinyLoc and we will go stand behind some big hills that are covered in trees with the transmitter pulsing from behind them when NO signal can be heard with any of the 4 other system receivers we have tried BUT the TinyLoc will still show you the correct way to go!

Please mate be patient.:lol:

you got me wrong paul....I would personaly like to see the system strapped to something on the par of what Jim / Wes are doing in the fields....maybe I am bias yes with pushing or Jim as he is out all the time hunting to the max in areas simular to mine in the style that I would like to achieve...with wreckless hawks pushing to the limits.
A good feedback would no doubt see systems fly off the shelf:supz:

[cavanrich]

Does anyone know where to buy this?

[BlackHawke]

i think the claim on the forum banner for tinyloc is a rather big unsubstantiated claim...'the best falconry telemetry':roll:

[Hawkmaster]

www.tinyloc.com

[Hawkmaster]

i think the claim on the forum banner for tinyloc is a rather big unsubstantiated claim...'the best falconry telemetry':roll:
Take it up with trading standards and prove them wrong I think you may a problem:wink:

[Sparrow Hawker]

Paul what were the other systems you tested it against?

Cheers,

SH

[Hawkmaster]

R-400
Luksander
Eskantrak
Marshall

[Hawkmaster]

Just got back from testing with Dave Fielder (Trax username) On his site he knows where is Luksander system gets and does not get signals and the TinyLoc got signals everywhere the Lukie did not!

And after the test another 3 customers for TinyLoc:supz:

[Turumti]

How did the R-400 compare to the Tinyloc?

[Goldie]

R-400
Luksander
Eskantrak
Marshall

2 of those i wouldn't have as a freebie, but if it is out perfoming the other 2 then it must be pretty good. I think a lot of people are going to be looking for new gear next year if they are on the 216 unless they can be re-chipped or crystaled ?

[Hawkmaster]

The R-400 was loud with good direction and wonderful up close BUT lacks a headphone socket for distant signals and can not easily allow you to find the signal compared to the TinyLoc.

It also was on 216 and the Tinyloc on 433 which meant we had a few dead spots on the R-400 but not on the TinyLoc although there were place where all systems could not pick anything up.

However the CDD technology of TinyLoc comes into play and then one has to do what seems un-natural and floow the niumbers and not the signal BUT IT WORKS!:lol:

[Hawkmaster]

Personally I would not entertain ONE the others are more or less the same and some do stuff the others do not!

One is very under-rated.;)

[Onyx25]

Personally I would not entertain ONE the others are more or less the same and some do stuff the others do not!

One is very under-rated.;)

Come on stop teasing give the names :lol:

[Hawkmaster]

I would not have an Eskantrack they are not loud enough. Not enough shielding and get signals in too wide an area.

The R-400 is under-rated, a copy of Luksander but almost better;)

[JasperDog]

sounds good but how much for this high tec gear

[JasperDog]

does anyone know the price and where can i buy one? please

[TinyLoc UK]

does anyone know the price and where can i buy one? please

Hi Peter
I am the UK Distributor for TinyLoc if you would like to PM me your mobile No I will give you a ring.
Good Hawking
Nick

[ArabianFalconer]

Do they have transmitters in 216? and why don't they have prices in their website like other manufacturers do?! I don't like the idea of waiting to get an answer tho..:rolleyes:

Faris

[StormRider]

Faris,
You dont need to wait for an answer. Just give Nick a call and he'll sort you mate. Im buying two full set ups and I tell you what I dont think that Ive ever had better service with anything else.

Ive been out on 4 seperate trials of the system and the signal never faltered. I was worried about the weatherproofing of the trannies, but I am told that a trannie was left in a horse trough full of water for 3 months. It worked with no problems afterwards.

STU

[PiPC01]

Having heard only good things about the tinyloc, I am thinking about getting one. The only thing that puts me off is that the signal is rare (@ the moment)
and every one around me uses 173 / 216.

Being a searcher, the range is awesome, Paul, you have 'sold' it to me in your descriptions, I just wish you could press a buy it now button and pay with paypal (hint hint)

Atb,
Mark

[Hawkmaster]

There is the opportunity to buy by Paypal. Simply contact Nick:lol:

[Kentish Falconry]

WE were testing one of these units and found them to be very good. We were hoping to do further tests at a longer range but had to send the unit onto someone else so we will have to wait and see when the unit comes back just how good it really is but so far we could not fault it
Terry

[PiPC01]

Thanks for the replies guys, the man from Tinyloc says no...to paypal :(, but yes to debit and credit cards,:grin:

atb, Mark

[TinyLoc UK]

Being a searcher, the range is awesome, Paul, you have 'sold' it to me in your descriptions, I just wish you could press a buy it now button and pay with paypal (hint hint)

Atb,
Mark[/QUOTE]



It's easer than that Mark pm me your mobile No I will give you a ring and press the buttons for you , all part of our outstanding Service second to none.
Good Hawking
Nick

[Talon]

carnt seem to get tinylocs web site too come up.:

[Onyx25]

All these posts and never one straight answer as to the range compared to 173 marshal gear. Not just the cheapy rtplus but top notch gear like power max and rt standard. Seems to me they have upped the power output and thus lowered the battery life and still only just keep up with the range of rt +. all this just to overcome the issues with 433! Looks great for a goss but still a real issue for me with the range for falcons.
Someone convince me otherwise and I will buy one!

[Hobby]

All these posts and never one straight answer as to the range compared to 173 marshal gear. Not just the cheapy rtplus but top notch gear like power max and rt standard. Seems to me they have upped the power output and thus lowered the battery life and still only just keep up with the range of rt +. all this just to overcome the issues with 433! Looks great for a goss but still a real issue for me with the range for falcons.
Someone convince me otherwise and I will buy one!
Pop round and borrow my set -you can then do your own trial!

[JoHo]

Wish there was someone up here with a kind offer like that. I would love to do testing up here. With hills and forests in the way.

[Ninja-Jon]

Presume you will be able to buy this system at the Falconry fair?

[TinyLoc UK]

Hi
Yes TinyLoc will be at the Fair, I would recommend pre-ordering your system / Tag to avoid disappointment I will require a small deposit. Daniel is coming over from Spain and I will be there. We will be having some show Offers so come along and have a chat.

Nick

[Onyx25]

Pop round and borrow my set -you can then do your own trial!

Just seen this karl will do ta! Good or bad the results will go up here!

[Phoenix1]

Just seen this karl will do ta! Good or bad the results will go up here!


the trouble is he wont give it back !!!

I used a set last week,its brilliant,very accurate,and simple to use.
you can clip the receiver to your belt unlike the large marshall unit which you would leave in the car or get somebody else to carry it
mick

[Shaft666]

I had a long chat with Nick on the phone today re the Tinyloc system and got to say he was extremely helpful.
Thanks for that Nick, will be placing my order soon :grin:

[Haek]

Daniel Please dont think for one moment that I am having a go, far from it this is a genuine query. There is an angry debate gong on at the moment about another supplier of telemetry concerning 216 frequency. As 173 is the only legal one in UK do you have any plans to produce your system in this frequency, and lastly what are your intentions regarding your existing customers who have purchased a system on what is an illegal frequency here and what may well prove to be an unworkable frequency at some point in the not too distant future.

[OutFlying]

Daniel Please dont think for one moment that I am having a go, far from it this is a genuine query. There is an angry debate gong on at the moment about another supplier of telemetry concerning 216 frequency. As 173 is the only legal one in UK do you have any plans to produce your system in this frequency, and lastly what are your intentions regarding your existing customers who have purchased a system on what is an illegal frequency here and what may well prove to be an unworkable frequency at some point in the not too distant future.


TinyLoc is on 433 mhz - a legal frequency.

[FalconryDog]

Yes 433 and 173 are the legal frequency for wildlife tracking.

Ste Lea

[Haek]

Thank you gentlemen it just goes to show what I have always said is true even at my advanced age there is always something new to learn. The day that I stop learning about falconry is the day to sell up.

[Kentish Falconry]

I promised to do some tests with the TinyLoc in Scotland when we were flying our Eagles.
We spent a week in Grantown on Spey on the mountains, we were fortunate enough to have one of our group with the new Marshall's Digital system on 173 along with a couple of other systems.
We hung all the transmitters in a tree, There were 2 Marshall Transmitters 1 powermax and 1 RT+ and then tested the range by moving around the area. Our Cottage was about 5 or 6 miles outside of Grantown all the systems apart from one could pick up a signal at around 3 miles distance bearing in mind that there were woods and hills between us. When we got to the far end of Grantown all the systems lost the signal appart from the TinyLoc that was still getting a strong reading on the smitters.
One of our Eagles was left in his box when we went off hunting and I checked the signal from time to time and even on the other side of a big mountain I was still getting a fair reading that was directional from there, at no time did I loose the signal.
The TinyLoc has proved that it works as well in extreem conditions as it does locally here in Kent. I am pleased I invested in a new TinyLoc
Terry :)