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Trappa
04-08-2007, 05:52 PM
i was just watching an article on the glasgow airport bombers and it reminded me of moses( not having a go, it just did). I thought that he hadnt been on for ages so i looked him up on here and didnt have a clue his gos died! Absolutely gutted for him. he was on here asking loads of questions and was so eager. Big shame, but shows to the newbies that with all the good will in the world jumping in with both feet and getting a gos isnt advised.
ANYWAY, does anyone keep in touch with him? How is he doing? i liked his posts and his humour, he was a good lad and hope he comes back to us ( hopefully this time with a HH)!!



Kennelre
04-08-2007, 08:07 PM
Ah!!!! Please forgive me if I misunderstand you...but why a Harris??
I remember every aspect of Moses' contribution to this forum and the saga of the Gos...and the advice he received, and the reason for it's death!!!
So...why a Harris?...are they okay to practice on..do they not die????


...Rene.
KenHawker1970
04-08-2007, 08:13 PM
Ah!!!! Please forgive me if I misunderstand you...but why a Harris??
I remember every aspect of Moses' contribution to this forum and the saga of the Gos...and the advice he received, and the reason for it's death!!!
So...why a Harris?...are they okay to practice on..do they not die????


...Rene.

Couldnt of put it any better myself.
Trappa
04-08-2007, 08:24 PM
FFS, this is the reason people get put off by this forum. You read something , misinterpret it, then pontificate about it.
I said a HH because i doubt he would have killed it, he would have flown it and caught game and enjoyed the experience.
Stop being a prat and get down off your soapbox.
MickeyDredd
04-08-2007, 08:30 PM
why not pm him?
CanadaManada
04-08-2007, 08:31 PM
Stop being a prat and get down off your soapbox.

True enough. Any HH owner who thinks a HH is no different from a Gos needs to tell the world exactly how it is they navigate through life with their heads so thoroughly shoved up their arses.
Read my signature, and you'll get the picture. Yes, I fly a FHH and I'm proud of her, but I am also not so full of myself to deny the differences between HHs and Goshawks.
I too hope Moses comes back, with a HH or an RT, both far more robust birds than a Goshawk in novice hands.
Kennelre
04-08-2007, 08:36 PM
FFS, this is the reason people get put off by this forum. You read something , misinterpret it, then pontificate about it.
I said a HH because i doubt he would have killed it, he would have flown it and caught game and enjoyed the experience.
Stop being a prat and get down off your soapbox.


I assume that you are talking to me????
Please explain, based on your knowledge and intimate acquantaince with Moses, why you believe 'he would have flown it and caught game and enjoyed the experience'??????
When you convince me, then I will stop 'pontificating'...until that time, I again suggest that you will have to forgive me for thinking that there might be matters more important than him being a nice bloke!!!
And...if you think that people are put off this forum by others attempting to safeguard the lives of the birds in their care...then perhaps they shouldn't be on this forum!!!!


...Rene.
Trappa
04-08-2007, 08:44 PM
If he had a hh, he would be flying it now.period.
again, get off your soapbox.
Loky
04-08-2007, 11:26 PM
as far as i was aware he was treated like muck , for having the nerve of trying a gos as his first bird , ( he failed and was crucified for it), , and believe it or not MOSES was the only guy from the forum to visit brianm in hospital ,, in my opinion that speaks volumes
Lyn Birds
04-08-2007, 11:33 PM
as far as i was aware he was treated like muck , for having the nerve of trying a gos as his first bird , ( he failed and was crucified for it), , and believe it or not MOSES was the only guy from the forum to visit brianm in hospital ,, in my opinion that speaks volumes

i totally agree well said he didnt have to put up on the forum what happened to his gos but he did and he was crucified for it
lyn
Matthew Patching
04-08-2007, 11:37 PM
Not everyone crucifeid him for it, but my kid would know not to feed washed meat to a bird down at weight, is it any wonder people felt the way that they did.
Sprout
04-08-2007, 11:39 PM
i totally agree well said he didnt have to put up on the forum what happened to his gos but he did and he was crucified for it
lyn

This is seriously going to split the forum.
I agree it took nerve to post what happened. BUT, he was advised again and again and again and again and again that he didn;t have the knowledge or skill to fly a bird (whatever it was - gos or HH). ALL advice was ignored again and again and again............and the outcome was what was predicted. The strength of anger showed in his slating. He may be the nicest guy on the planet, but he shows what is effetcively going to cause the downfall of falconry - people jumping in the deep end, not being prepared and potentially causing falconry to all into disrepute (maybe not Moses, but someone like him SOONER or later will bring it into disrepute by not listening to good advice)
Ned
04-08-2007, 11:44 PM
This is seriously going to split the forum.
I agree it took nerve to post what happened. BUT, he was advised again and again and again and again and again that he didn;t have the knowledge or skill to fly a bird (whatever it was - gos or HH). ALL advice was ignored again and again and again............and the outcome was what was predicted. The strength of anger showed in his slating. He may be the nicest guy on the planet, but he shows what is effetcively going to cause the downfall of falconry - people jumping in the deep end, not being prepared and potentially causing falconry to all into disrepute (maybe not Moses, but someone like him SOONER or later will bring it into disrepute by not listening to good advice)

good post karl,everybody could tell what was going to happen,atb ned.
Pendleside
04-08-2007, 11:50 PM
i just cant understand why people are argueing about this all over again .
there will only be one outcome , the thread will become more heated than it is now and then it will get closed .
whats the point ?
Loky
04-08-2007, 11:57 PM
This is seriously going to split the forum.
I agree it took nerve to post what happened. BUT, he was advised again and again and again and again and again that he didn;t have the knowledge or skill to fly a bird (whatever it was - gos or HH). ALL advice was ignored again and again and again............and the outcome was what was predicted. The strength of anger showed in his slating. He may be the nicest guy on the planet, but he shows what is effetcively going to cause the downfall of falconry - people jumping in the deep end, not being prepared and potentially causing falconry to all into disrepute (maybe not Moses, but someone like him SOONER or later will bring it into disrepute by not listening to good advice)

it is my understanding that a member on here advised him to feed washed meat ?????
Sprout
04-08-2007, 11:59 PM
it is my understanding that a member on here advised him to feed washed meat ?????

Proves my longstanding point again - advice can NEVER be given accurately regards weight/condition over the forum - this can only be given in the flesh.
Agree with Pendleside - this is going to run and run with split thoughts. Been run through already - lock it now
Lyn Birds
05-08-2007, 12:06 AM
This is seriously going to split the forum.
I agree it took nerve to post what happened. BUT, he was advised again and again and again and again and again that he didn;t have the knowledge or skill to fly a bird (whatever it was - gos or HH). ALL advice was ignored again and again and again............and the outcome was what was predicted. The strength of anger showed in his slating. He may be the nicest guy on the planet, but he shows what is effetcively going to cause the downfall of falconry - people jumping in the deep end, not being prepared and potentially causing falconry to all into disrepute (maybe not Moses, but someone like him SOONER or later will bring it into disrepute by not listening to good advice)

i agree with what you are saying i shall leave it lie but it keeps popping up, but i hate to see anyone get the slating he did as far as i'm concerned its gone will not comment on it anymore
lyn
Tim Laycock
05-08-2007, 12:17 AM
If he had a hh, he would be flying it now.period.
again, get off your soapbox.

Quality, pure gold! :supz:

i just cant understand why people are argueing about this all over again .
there will only be one outcome , the thread will become more heated than it is now and then it will get closed .
whats the point ?

Correct 8-)



Agree with Pendleside - this is going to run and run with split thoughts. Been run through already - lock it now

Done 8-)