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AlexB
17-10-2007, 10:09 PM
Well had a massive scare from Shrek today. To start with over the last couple of days he has been a little bit off but nt overly bad. Then all of a sudden this morning he was suddenly down on weight and wouldn't eat. I managed to get some liver and heart down his neck. And got Ron over to check him out. Weve managed to get him to eat some pigeon and liver again but he was very slow and picky. He pushed the food through then wouldn't eat again. I have cast him and fource fed food and a glucose drink. Fingers crossed over the next couple of hours. If no improvement then hes of to the vet tomorrow.

This has got me a bit scared as it came very suddenly. Thank ***k for having a mentor.

ATB

Alex



Harris
17-10-2007, 10:13 PM
Good luck mate, I really hope he's ok!!
AlexB
17-10-2007, 10:14 PM
Good luck mate, I really hope he's ok!!

Thanks it has got me shi**ing myself.
Accipter-Gentilis
17-10-2007, 10:15 PM
has he gone too low in weight?
Yeoman
17-10-2007, 10:17 PM
Well had a massive scare from Shrek today. To start with over the last couple of days he has been a little bit off but nt overly bad. Then all of a sudden this morning he was suddenly down on weight and wouldn't eat. I managed to get some liver and heart down his neck. And got Ron over to check him out. Weve managed to get him to eat some pigeon and liver again but he was very slow and picky. He pushed the food through then wouldn't eat again. I have cast him and fource fed food and a glucose drink. Fingers crossed over the next couple of hours. If no improvement then hes of to the vet tomorrow.

This has got me a bit scared as it came very suddenly. Thank ***k for having a mentor.

ATB

Alex

Keep me posted sarge
AlexB
17-10-2007, 10:17 PM
he has been fine up or down no more than a gram or 2 a day but has been fairly settled weightwise. The suddenly today down 20 grams and no appetite.

As i said he has not been his usual self the last couple of days but has been flying reasonably.

The weight drop was over night!

Alex
AlexB
17-10-2007, 10:18 PM
Keep me posted sarge

Will do Kev, not any sleep tonight. Not for the first time in my career.

Stag on!!

Alex
Accipter-Gentilis
17-10-2007, 10:18 PM
was it a cold snap?
AlexB
17-10-2007, 10:20 PM
was it a cold snap?

It has been colder recently but I have upped his food intake and he seemed to be holding weight normally.

Alex
Harris
17-10-2007, 10:21 PM
Stag on!!



Now there's a phrase that I ain't heard for a while!! :yawinkle:
Yeoman
17-10-2007, 10:24 PM
Will do Kev, not any sleep tonight. Not for the first time in my career.

Stag on!!

Alex

Is your reg going to iraq, my lad is going within the next fortnight
Sprout
17-10-2007, 10:24 PM
Hope everything works out ok.
Just goes to show how quick birds can go downhill - if you suspect there is something wrong, get it checked - guess work plays little when it comes to treating birds of prey.
AlexB
17-10-2007, 10:25 PM
Is your reg going to iraq, my lad is going within the next fortnight

yep mid next year.
AlexB
17-10-2007, 10:26 PM
Hope everything works out ok.
Just goes to show how quick birds can go downhill - if you suspect there is something wrong, get it checked - guess work plays little when it comes to treating birds of prey.

If he aint looking better by the morning he will be straight of to the vet. I am hoping I have caught him early enough if there is a problem.

Alex
AlexB
17-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Just been in with him, got him in the spare room. Hes just had a wee preen. And looks like hes pushed through some of the crop he had. Fingers crossed then.

Alex
TimDog80
17-10-2007, 10:46 PM
Just been in with him, got him in the spare room. Hes just had a wee preen. And looks like hes pushed through some of the crop he had. Fingers crossed then.

Alex
hope he pulls through for you fella!!!
ScuffMan
17-10-2007, 10:53 PM
Hope he's going to be O.K. Alex.
Atb Neil.
Kristoferu
17-10-2007, 10:57 PM
Hope all is well.
GosFlyer
17-10-2007, 11:04 PM
at least you had the sense to bring him in where its a bit warmer for him, good luck hope he's OK.
Zarafia
17-10-2007, 11:41 PM
I'm keeping a good thought for Shrek. I don't know how comfortable you are with your vets around there, but I would make an appiontment for him as soon as possible even if he does seem better tommorow. Whatever caused this is something you need to find out about. Right now focus on supportive care - keep him in a room with the temp close to 90 degrees f so that he does not have to put any resources into maintaining body temp. Keep his stress level at zero, in my experience sometimes vets underestimate how important a birds stress level is, and it can make the difference between life and death. Make sure he stays hydrated Pedialyte is great for birds, if you can get some and if you are comfortable doing so tube him some as well as some chicken or turkey baby food. Tube in very small amounts always be sure you can feel the end of the tube in the crop. If it stresses him alot then just do it once and watch him. Do not leave him in total darkness for some reason birds do better with some light at all times in critical situations. If he wants to sleep the light wont stop him. Also watch to see if at any time you see him sitting on just one leg, this would be a good sign. Another thing you can do to help him would be to get a couple live pigeons, kill one and immediatly give him a small amount while still warm. This is better than baby food. If he wont eat small pieces then, if you are comfortable doing it, you can gently pry his beak open and push a couple of small wet pieces down his throat with your finger. Good Luck!
Zarafia
17-10-2007, 11:45 PM
Sorry forgot to add that if you can give sub cu fluids definitely do so. Again best wishes and good luck.
AlexB
18-10-2007, 06:08 AM
Got him through last night with half hourly checks and fed small regular amounts through the night. Thankfully everything he has had he is putting through and his weight has gone up nicley. Will keep an eye on him through the morning. Sadly wont be able to go to the vets first thing due to work being bast**ds.

Will keep posting.

Thanks for all the support and advice guys it means a lot.

Alex
TimDog80
18-10-2007, 06:17 AM
well good news so far!!!,,,,,,,,,,,good luck!!!
Zarafia
18-10-2007, 06:33 AM
Glad to hear he's holding his own (knock on wood) and it sounds as if you have gotten him turned around. How are his droppings? and be sure to save some as a sample to take to the vet. Keep us posted and again good luck.
1ABHawker
18-10-2007, 06:35 AM
good luck!
HarrisHawk23
18-10-2007, 06:47 AM
has he gone too low in weight?it sounds like it have happened to me before.
aquila_chrysaetos
18-10-2007, 07:35 AM
Hope Shrek picks up soon :goodman:
Paul42
18-10-2007, 04:43 PM
hows the lil fella now alex,hope he's ok ..
Paris
18-10-2007, 06:46 PM
Got him through last night with half hourly checks and fed small regular amounts through the night. Thankfully everything he has had he is putting through and his weight has gone up nicley. Will keep an eye on him through the morning. Sadly wont be able to go to the vets first thing due to work being bast**ds.

Will keep posting.

Thanks for all the support and advice guys it means a lot.

Alex

Hi Alex if you keep him in his hawking box in side you kitchen, you can moniter his weight plus the box will heat up with his body heat.you must keep warm at all times a may take 7 dayes 4 him 2 perk up. or he may need AntiBiotics if he has a crob bug. A good antibiotic may be Terramycin 5.5 powerd , 4 crop infections

Best regards Harry Pyle.