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North East Harris Hawker
17-06-2004, 03:13 AM
how do you rate them as a falconry vehicle?




North East Harris Hawker
06-07-2004, 08:59 PM
heres a pic of my bird-mo-bile obviously before we got ripped off by a certain swiss ref!

North East Harris Hawker
06-07-2004, 09:12 PM
heres a side on view, bolt through number plate tippexed white for m.o.t. :wink:

Waldini
22-07-2004, 02:01 PM
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v341/waldini/7212004125215PM441_TN.jpg


and mine

Hawkmaster
22-07-2004, 02:20 PM
NEHH, what engine you got in there to do 30mpg?

North East Harris Hawker
22-07-2004, 09:47 PM
2.5 tdi manual hawkmaster, it runs like a dream 8)

Hawkmaster
22-07-2004, 11:09 PM
Very SMART, dig the plate too!

North East Harris Hawker
23-07-2004, 04:01 AM
ive been pulled twice for it though :oops: the back one is a bit naughtier than the front one!

Shaun Byrne
03-09-2004, 10:03 PM
Is that H11, cool plate, did it cost much?
I think H4wka belongs to Chris at Falconry Originals, you've probably seen them advertised or at one of the fairs. Mines a boring standard plate, would love H4WKS!!!

North East Harris Hawker
03-09-2004, 10:16 PM
yep its H11WKA I GOT IT FOR 300 OOPps quid all in, i did see H4VVK for sale on eBay, but it went for silly money, you have to be crafty go to the dvla website and check out H11VVK or H14WKS or H14VVK im sure some of these are still available 8) and ill tell you where to get the plate made :wink:

Hawkmaster
04-09-2004, 01:46 PM
What about G05awk?

Shaun Byrne
04-09-2004, 02:55 PM
H45RIS would be better, more stylish I think,lol, how about you NEHH?

Hawkmaster
06-09-2004, 11:19 PM
Sounds like a surname?

Annie
20-09-2004, 12:30 PM
Getting back to Landrovers, I have a defender pick-up with an I. Williams top. Our local Landrover dealer said he would be able to secure a travelling box and bow perch in the back for me, they have a client who has done something similar with the freelander.

Hawkmaster
20-09-2004, 12:35 PM
Go on Annie, show us the piccies then?

North East Harris Hawker
20-09-2004, 07:08 PM
Getting back to Landrovers, I have a defender pick-up with an I. Williams top. Our local Landrover dealer said he would be able to secure a travelling box and bow perch in the back for me, they have a client who has done something similar with the freelander.
sounds good annie, post us a picture of you washing it in your bikini and i'll decide whether im going to elope with you or not!
:wink:

Annie
21-09-2004, 08:27 AM
I shall have to speak nicely to my boss who has the 'know-all' to take a picture to submit. My dirty little landy is my pride and joy.

North East Harris Hawker
24-09-2004, 10:08 PM
do you keep it dirty deliberately annie?

Annie
27-09-2004, 09:15 AM
No, we have a cottage situated on a farm drive, so it gets quite muddy (that's my first excuse). But I also have a Father who used to be a farm worker and gets quite upset if he sees it too clean (that's my second excuse).

North East Harris Hawker
27-09-2004, 10:57 AM
aha! so its kept farm fresh then!

Annie
28-09-2004, 03:33 PM
I tried posting a picture of 'Tigger' the defender but I got a message back saying the attachment was too big! (North East will never know if I was cleaning it in a bikini or not!)

Sparrow Hawker
28-09-2004, 06:16 PM
LOL :lol: Annie, North East will be most upset.

On the defenders is there anything you have to look out for when thinking of purchasing a used one?

Regards,

HH

Mary Quite Contrary
28-09-2004, 10:36 PM
Hi
This is my new hawking partner for this season.
I havent fitted the custom chequer plating yet and snorkel kit but there is still time.
I have fitted a sound proofing kit and some seat covers.
Lionel the landy, i think the wife is trying to tell me something?

TenBears10
28-09-2004, 11:48 PM
On the defenders is there anything you have to look out for when thinking of purchasing a used one?

Regards,

HH

Rust on the chasis, bulkhead, doors humm and anywhere else really. The best is a waxoiled chasis which isn't that expensive to do but will keep the rust out for ages.

That is what i've been told to check for. The best way to check the chasis is with a hammer if the seller will let you :D

Bill

Bill
28-09-2004, 11:49 PM
Back to number plates, how about B11TEO with a strategically placed screw - if that's what turns you on. For me number plates don't, but a strategically placed screw, mmmmm

Sparrow Hawker
28-09-2004, 11:50 PM
Hi TenBears10,

Thanks, much appreciated.

All The Best,

Regards,

HH

North East Harris Hawker
29-09-2004, 04:21 AM
hey mark! smart truck! you'll be able to get all sorts of tackle in the back of there, im jealous to death :mrgreen: i wanted a county but just couldnt justify one driving down to london all the time
found this on another forum

Rot is the biggest killer of early 110's,Areas to look at on the bulkhead are footwells and the top corners of the doorposts,on the chassis get a reasonable sized hammer and give the chassis a good tap from front to rear,the first sign of problems is the rear crossmember often rots first.Engine wise they are either 2.5 N/A or 2.5 turbo the non turbo is a good reliable unit although a little on the slow side with few problems,the 2.5 turbo is a bit of a odd engine they are either very good or very bad,a good one will start easily from cold and have a clean engine bay.A bad one however will not start to well and is normally accompanied by a very oily engine/engine bay.Otherwise a very strong and practical motor.My advice would be a 2.5 turbo but as was said only in good order(be wary of freshly cleaned engines)

hope this helps when looking

Annie
29-09-2004, 02:59 PM
That's a beaut Mark. When I was looking around for mine Harris Hawker, I was initially put off by the 'oil leak' reputation. However, I did an 'off road' sponser course first to ensure I could handle the little tinker and finally I settled on a 2 year old Td5 pickup which I bought from the main dealer. The previous owner even had a radio fitted, alarm and wait for it........electric windows fitted. I had an I. Williams top fitted and the dogs love it. Although we paid more going to a main dealer, they have been absolutely fantastic (because it has been back a number of times!). I wouldn't change it for the world.........well maybe a new station wagon!

North East Harris Hawker
29-09-2004, 11:18 PM
great! im please that you are happy with your truck, the td5's really go, one of my mates has one, im stuck with a now slightly retro 300tdi, fortunately the army still uses this engine in their trucks and my connections with them are many! would still love a nice S or T reg late 300tdi station wagon/county, they are "proper truckage" :twisted:

GoneHawking
01-10-2004, 11:39 PM
I used to drive a BMW M3 and have a daihatsu fourtrack for the birds, But I sold them both and bought a Discovery 300 TDI, It has been great so far with no troubles apart from a flat battery, I do know the previous owner which helps as the history can be a bit shady with these, He had a new engine and turbo fitted by a landrover specialist (my friend).

I will at some point change it for a V8 range rover as I want a more refined everyday vehicle as well as top off road performance.

GoneHawking
01-10-2004, 11:47 PM
Here is the Disco

North East Harris Hawker
02-10-2004, 10:26 AM
smart truck! ooo look, someone has left you some new aviary wire behind it for you!

North East Harris Hawker
04-02-2005, 08:58 PM
whats the odd of this then, im planning a trip to marakech this summer in my truck. i thought it would be a good idea to get myself a few spares so an appointment was made with a guy on the way bacvk north from london. i picked up a spare alternator,starter motor and water pump. the next day i took the truck into town and returned to find it was leaking coolant all over the drive... water pump knackered! the spare was fitted.. but how bizzar was that?

BrianM
04-02-2005, 09:25 PM
thats a nice wagon, one small problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,its very clean..lol

GoneHawking
04-02-2005, 09:45 PM
Brian, I had only had it about a week then and I had to goto a wedding, so I cleaned and waxed her up, the landrover not the bride.....it certainly doesn't look that clean now, I flew my pere x prarie today and drove up the farm in it and it's covered now inside and out....ah well thats what there designed for.......still love it though, even after nearly a year.

BrianM
04-02-2005, 09:49 PM
lol you have to wipe your feet when you get out of mine.... ahhh the smell of silage ,, drives the wife mental

North East Harris Hawker
05-02-2005, 02:29 AM
ive just got hold of a set of those roof bars, theres another job for the weekend!

GoneHawking
09-02-2005, 01:13 PM
NEHH, the bars are fine until you need to get in a 2mtr height restriction car park :cry:

BrianM
09-02-2005, 02:30 PM
we dont do car parks mow because of the roof bars and lamps,,, lol

North East Harris Hawker
09-02-2005, 05:08 PM
i think its a small price to pay, im gonna fit a rear roof rack anyway, gonna need all the space i can get for my trip to marakech this summer!

Falconer
09-02-2005, 06:33 PM
I'M getting a shogun exceed this yr
about the same price as the discovery but better layout and according to friends who own them cheaper on parts as well

Grovsey
09-02-2005, 08:44 PM
hi m8
I work for fords and they own landrover,did you know they have a gear box problem and to fix they cost about 800.I now 3 people who have had this issue ,one off them only being 2yrs old,if you look around at what the game keepers are using now days you will see that they are no longer opting 4 the disco ect .

IAmTheWeasel
09-02-2005, 09:12 PM
Do ya'll have Jeeps there?

BrianM
09-02-2005, 10:04 PM
these are all just dinky toys compared to what you guys have in the states arnt they.........lol

Lanner Nut
10-02-2005, 09:09 AM
bet that M3 moved PH :wink:

watching sky news this morning, they gonna put warning signs on 4x4 becos of carbon emmissions. Even mentioning tax increases.

Quite shocking figures aswell, 68% think that 4x4's should be banned in cities

what u guys reckon?

GoneHawking
10-02-2005, 09:54 AM
Lannernut, if you meant my M3 then yes it was very quick and a lovely drive, upset so many porky 911 drivers...but just no good for off roading and carrying dogs plus birds..

ChicM
10-02-2005, 01:16 PM
They can't increase the taxes any more on these things surely! I got a diesel RR and it's running at 35% of original value right now. The worst thing that ever happened was when these stupid SUVs moved into the school run. Folk who use 4x4s properly are now being penalised because of the fact that most of the ones sold only go off road when they bump up on the kerb outside Oddbins...

ChicM
10-02-2005, 01:18 PM
PS to Gonehawking...I had a 928 and I'd have given yer M3 a run for it's money any day...115mph and I still kicked her down into 3rd before she topped out at 168! Five litres of pure adrenalin under the bonnet. I even took her across a field to get to a salmon river once. Not that I'd recomend it as a serious off-roader of course... :D

GoneHawking
10-02-2005, 01:30 PM
trouble with the 928 was a was a bit of a cruiser, power to weight ratio wise it was just to heavey, M3 evo was the first production car to have 100+ bhp per litre (3.2ltr - 321 bhp - 6 speed) equaled 0-62 5.2 secs and 0-100 in 11.3 and unrestricted BMW claim top speed of 175 plus a bit, although they were electronically limited to 156mph, for the money a hec of a car, Still love 911's and wouldn't mind a GT3!!!! someday

ChicM
10-02-2005, 01:47 PM
Jeez GH...that is almost anorak level of detail! :D

I had no idea of the stats: just pointed the thing and held on!

I had all 3 porsches (944,911, 928) but the big "cruiser" just suited me down to the ground. Kept it 10 years and did 165000 miles in it. Had one near miss in it and I am utterly convinced if I had been driving any other car I would be dead now. Awesome machine. Sadly it didn't survive the divorce...

Such is life.

GoneHawking
10-02-2005, 02:53 PM
ChicM, nice one, lucky bloke having had 3 porsches, the 928 was certainly a beast. I was a bit sad with my M3 and yes a bit of a facts and figures nerd...I also had the original left hand drive E30 M3, lovely car and it's touring car pedigree was evident everytime you drove it.
When I got divorced the birds had to go because I had nowhere to house them :cry: , still the new other half is great and really supportive and loves the birds :P
Still I love the Landrover and suits me just fine, well untill I can get the new range rover :)

IAmTheWeasel
10-02-2005, 03:13 PM
these are all just dinky toys compared to what you guys have in the states arnt they.........lolNaaa...I prefer the little nimble 4x4's as they are harder to get stuck than the big 4x4's. My wife has a 4x4 Jeep Liberty and it's perfect for hawking in. My big diesel truck will sink like a rock once off road. Here is a link to a good frinds web site and some of the off road adventures we go on. I got him involved in off roading and he does it all the time now.....Expensive hobby to say the least....
http://www.geocities.com/troyota1984/

Afshimo
10-02-2005, 04:13 PM
We use the family car, my dads new toy, a nice, dark green landrover discover tdi m redge. Yeah, I admit, i think it's cool, nice to look at and real steady on/off road. We havnt been off roading yet (Dad doesnt want to hurt his little "baby" lol) mainly green roading - whish is cool lol. I can fit about 4 bird boxes (thats the max lol) in the back, I prefered to sit with afra, as she was so good, and prefered to nosey out the window (and yes, we did go round the back so no-one saw us) I'd like to strip an old defender, kit it out to hold about 4-5 birds comfotably lol. Thats my dream car.

North East Harris Hawker
14-02-2005, 12:38 PM
bet that M3 moved PH :wink:

watching sky news this morning, they gonna put warning signs on 4x4 becos of carbon emmissions. Even mentioning tax increases.

Quite shocking figures aswell, 68% think that 4x4's should be banned in cities

what u guys reckon?

i think we pay enough tax for owning 4x4's. raod tax and the hammering on fuel, i recon mre 4x4s should go into the cities to drive over and crush as many townies before they all go rushing into parliment to start meddling with anymore of our cars/sports/hunting. Grrrr I hate em

North East Harris Hawker
14-02-2005, 12:40 PM
We use the family car, my dads new toy, a nice, dark green landrover discover tdi m redge. Yeah, I admit, i think it's cool, nice to look at and real steady on/off road. We havnt been off roading yet (Dad doesnt want to hurt his little "baby" lol) mainly green roading - whish is cool lol. I can fit about 4 bird boxes (thats the max lol) in the back, I prefered to sit with afra, as she was so good, and prefered to nosey out the window (and yes, we did go round the back so no-one saw us) I'd like to strip an old defender, kit it out to hold about 4-5 birds comfotably lol. Thats my dream car.

give me a ring in about 4 years, i may leave my wife for you :wink:

BFC 007
27-02-2005, 05:03 PM
just thought i would include my falconry vehicle for you LANDY LOVERS

Darren
27-02-2005, 05:34 PM
looks good what engine is it?

BFC 007
27-02-2005, 05:45 PM
300 tdi
2.5 diesel m8

Darren
27-02-2005, 05:57 PM
selling me motorbike so I can get something like that

BFC 007
27-02-2005, 06:01 PM
get one m8,last you for years-very reliable

Sparrow Hawker
27-02-2005, 07:06 PM
Very Smart, there great vehicles, they certainly hold there value to.

All The Best,

HH

Jack Merlin
27-02-2005, 08:25 PM
300 tdi
2.5 diesel m8

Great vehicles! I got one after my 200Tdi had and meeting with a lorry!<g>

Varmint
28-02-2005, 07:37 AM
Im on my 4th or 5th now! great cars, poor build quality and the window rattle drives me mad, but they do drive up my track everyday, and that isnt for the faint hearted?

Nice looking swb Big fish! like the tyres, use mud terrain myself but never bothered with the winch and snorkel :shock:

Looks like you covered it in superglue and ramm raided Halfords :twisted:

Lets off road!!!!

BFC 007
28-02-2005, 09:17 AM
nice one lol

North East Harris Hawker
01-03-2005, 07:27 PM
now thats a proper truck big fish!
ive just been out and bought another one :roll:
the wifes little clio is now on the road making room for my "new" 1971 series III SWB, its diesel, it cost £250 and the engine runs! i took it for a spin over the industrial estate and it goes! need an m.o.t now but its gonna come at a price!
rear 1/4 chassis on order, trying to source some new rear springs, need to wire up the back lights, I recon £350 will see it back on the tarmac,
or at least i hope so! :?

BFC 007
01-03-2005, 09:01 PM
cool,got spares for a defender if u no anyone-steering guard,bumper,suspension kit=4 shocks 4 springs

North East Harris Hawker
01-03-2005, 09:09 PM
have a look on
http://www.lro.com/nav?page=lroi.message.list&section=MESSAGE_QA_BOAR D



someone will buy your bits on there :wink:

Sparrow Hawker
04-03-2005, 04:24 PM
Hi,

Apart from the 300 tdi are there any others that can be recommended? Is there anything you have to particularily look out for, any probs, wearing etc?

All The Best,

HH

BFC 007
04-03-2005, 04:36 PM
i reckon most of the defender range are just as good as one another,if your after one make sure its service history is up to date as they need doing every 6000 miles on average
it would pay to take someone with you if you decide to buy a cheap one-someone who knows what to look for: oil leeks,engine noises, state of chassis
there are plenty of good ones out there,its finding them thats the problem hh

Mary Quite Contrary
04-03-2005, 05:03 PM
just thought i would include my falconry vehicle for you LANDY LOVERS


Nice one! very smart.

North East Harris Hawker
12-03-2005, 07:59 PM
"land rovers dont leak oil....they mark their territory!" :lol:
im after a fairey overdrive and some free wheeling hubs... can anyone help?

BFC 007
12-03-2005, 08:36 PM
tried lre magazine matey?

North East Harris Hawker
13-03-2005, 06:53 AM
ive had a look in lro, lrm and lrw, people are asking £300+ for them, my truck only cost £250 ! i wanna pay about £80-£120 for the overdrive and about £20 - £30 for the hubs :?

North East Harris Hawker
21-05-2005, 08:30 PM
the 88" is coming along nicely! had new springs on the rear, new 1/4 chassis, new rear and front shocks, new track rod ends, oil,fuel and air filters, new bump stops, new front brake shoes,new dished bonnet, new indicators and sidelights,new fuel tank, got new headlights coming, a new wing, got a fairey overdrive but still need the linkage and lever, got the paint (deep bronze green of course) its insured and taxed..... just needs a small piece of brake pipe when i get back now and its away!
will post pics when its done :D :D :D

Dave Whitt
21-05-2005, 08:58 PM
NEHH what engine have you got in it ? and what series is it

BFC 007
21-05-2005, 09:08 PM
sounds like you have been busy with it NEHH?
be worth it though

North East Harris Hawker
21-05-2005, 10:01 PM
its taken a good bit of time up, but fortunately its all been very straightforward and more importantly..cheap!
its not perfectly straight in all departments but that's part of its character. gonna treat it to a lick of paint and a tidy up.
i like the free tax disc best of all (1971) dunno what im gonna do when its completed? buy another one i supposed!

North East Harris Hawker
28-05-2005, 11:44 PM
bit of an update on the old SIII, the brake pipe is fixed, put new shoes on too, a new bump stop and front shocker and 2 track rod ends.
.
last week she was treated to a nice couple of coats of deep bronze green paint, a "new" horn (as the last one sounded like a strangled cat) new injectors, a new injector pipe and i have finally sourced the bits i needed for the over drive!
she is back on the road albeit a bit smokey but she is coming along nicely :D
will get some photos soon

Jack Merlin
29-05-2005, 08:25 AM
Hi NEHH!

I have wondered about those bump stops. (That's the lump of rubber the body rests on when the springs are fully compressed?).

There is one missing on my Tdi300. But if I replaced it, would it ever get used? Must need a hell of a weight to fully compress those springs!

But I can understand wanting your restoration to be complete and original. Just muttering away to myself! Don't pay any attention....<g>

BTW, my first car was a Morgan three wheeler (unfortunately, with the Ford engine). I put the horn from a lorry in it. Provoked a very interesting reaction when I blew it and people turned expecting to see a lorry -- to be confronted with a very very small Morgan!!

What colour is the smoke?

North East Harris Hawker
29-05-2005, 08:40 AM
the bump stop may get used if you go cross country, they are only a couple of quid (less than a fiver) if you go to britpart, O.E may be a bit more, if you get it off without an angle grinder you'll have done well, i'd swap it as a matter of course.
the SIII is blowing blue smoke, i have advanced and retarded the pump and had new injectors fitted and its still smokey (albeit not as bad) so the head is coming off next week for a snoop at the pistons/valves
more work :?

Jack Merlin
29-05-2005, 09:12 AM
the SIII is blowing blue smoke, i have advanced and retarded the pump and had new injectors fitted and its still smokey (albeit not as bad) so the head is coming off next week for a snoop at the pistons/valves
more work

Ah, a petrol engine. I'd assumed it was diesel. There are a few good Land Rover groups. Some very knowledgeable and helpful people out there.

I have only had Land Rovers for a couple of years, both diesel. Before that it was Peugeot 504 truck, a succession of about five of them! Great trucks but hopeless off road. Then they sold all the machinery to China....Yuck! Still, I'm now thinking I should have got a landie years ago.

I'll need to think again about that bump stop. Waiting for some warmer weather before I start crawling under her again!

North East Harris Hawker
29-05-2005, 09:20 AM
warm weather? it is warm! tis only two ten mill bolts!
my SIII is a diesel 2.5 normally aspirated. (ex freight rover engine)

Jack Merlin
29-05-2005, 01:54 PM
warm weather? it is warm! tis only two ten mill bolts!

It is artic up here in the north. Still snow on the hills! :(

[my SIII is a diesel 2.5 normally aspirated. (ex freight rover engine)[/quote]

Hmm... sounds like it might need a re-bore? Just speaking to a mate who has had a secondhand Izusu engine fitted. He reckons it is very sweet. Plenty about and not expensive because the truck bodies rust out before the engines wear out.

These days (old age) I am a bit sensitive about working outside in anything but warm sunshine. But there was a time when I completed an engine change on a Pug 504 lying on my back in 2 inches of freezing water! Nothing quite like it for speeding up your rate of working!<g>

North East Harris Hawker
30-05-2005, 12:58 AM
you could be right about the rebore, a bit too costly though, i was thinking maybe of new pistons and rings athe most, will have to see the state of the bores when the head comes off :roll:
ill be doing this in my warm garage though :wink:
2 inches of freezing water?...mm maybe when i was in the army but those days are well over!

North East Harris Hawker
02-06-2005, 10:38 AM
more good news!, overdrive linkage sourced for £35, new halogens for free, new steel wheels for free, new sill plate for free, sourced 2 new engines for free as well, a 2.25 petrol and a 2.5N/a diesel (just in case mine is goosed) looking forward to getting stuck into it again this weekend :twisted:

North East Harris Hawker
03-06-2005, 09:04 PM
the 88"

North East Harris Hawker
03-06-2005, 09:05 PM
and from the front, ok i cocked up and left the camera on macro! :oops:

Wightwings
04-06-2005, 08:20 PM
NICE BIT OF KIT THERE oops...Lee. i love that shape. the best vehicle i EVER had was a 1962 ex army series 1 i converted from a two 6 volt battery to a 12v. used to have to crank it over to start on bad days but always went and went and went ......loved it

BlueHawk
04-06-2005, 08:56 PM
Hi NEHH

I've been lucky enough to have a 11A, 111, 110 CSW, Range Rover and now a Disco, The series Land Rover were easily the most fun per mile. Ive been using Paddocks for years for my bits. Just make sure you get under her with plenty waxoyl every year. Otherwise she looks the dogs danglies!! By the way, unless your middle name is ESSO, BP or JET, I'd avoid the petrol 2.25 like the plague, they lose petrol quicker than the exxon valdez!!

Falcon
04-06-2005, 09:01 PM
Looking good Lee!

Cassini
04-06-2005, 10:10 PM
Lee nice looking landy!!

looking for a land rover myself , I originally wanted a freelander ,then
a disco (love the new one!!!) but they're to nice for what I'm going to be useing
it for! I've finally come to the conclusion that I want a Defender probably
a ninety TD5. just got a buy it now. and I think I'll have to go main
dealer too.

A friend told me that if you get it chipped it will fly as well.

North East Harris Hawker
05-06-2005, 10:50 AM
:mrgreen: :D yay! im chuffed to bits with it, the cylinder head still needs to come off to investigate the excessive smoke and im still after some overdrive parts...will keep yawl posted, painting the inside today 8)

North East Harris Hawker
05-06-2005, 10:38 PM
Lee nice looking landy!!

looking for a land rover myself , I originally wanted a freelander ,then
a disco (love the new one!!!) but they're to nice for what I'm going to be useing
it for! I've finally come to the conclusion that I want a Defender probably
a ninety TD5. just got a buy it now. and I think I'll have to go main
dealer too.

A friend told me that if you get it chipped it will fly as well.
if its a family vehicle that your looking for then go for the 110, i like the 300tdi more than the td5, ok its not as quick (but there is not a lot in it) it s the fact that everything is cheaper to maintain on the 300tdi, a lot more user friendly for the diy mechanic. wish i had bought a long wheel base one now....will have to start saving!

North East Harris Hawker
08-06-2005, 12:14 AM
well, i got myself covered in paint and it still aint all done yet, seat box done, fixed a hole in the floor and painted all the footwells/pedals, the back of the seats need doing inside of the front doors...opened a right can of worms here. then there is all the back to do :(
good job i have a fortnight off very soon :P
the damned thing wouldnt start this afternoon either (first time this has happened) oh well at least no one will be able to nick it!

North East Harris Hawker
20-09-2005, 09:24 PM
looks like we have lost a few posts since the hackers visited, as many know i managed to blow the S3 engine up by driving it too fast (dont ask)
but fortunately i had the good sense to buy another donor vehicle some months back (which is resting on a nearby farm) the engine on this runs great, so there is a nasty job on the horizon :?

North East Harris Hawker
18-03-2006, 09:26 PM
heres my fleet, discovery has just ticked over onto 200k miles definately the best vehicle i have ever owned, the other one, well it has been known to move!

Joey
18-03-2006, 09:29 PM
top reg plate were all the gear like the safari snorkle and the wintch and the bf tyres. that how it should be lol

HawkMan
18-03-2006, 09:34 PM
Looks like 1 had a had a few years back ,bought it off this guy from down staffordshire 7k in the hand had it 18 months spent 2k on it and tried to px it and found out it was on hp ,went the lads house he had to remortgage and settle the debt ,lol
Jb nice motors though

Bones
18-03-2006, 09:36 PM
Looks like 1 had a had a few years back ,bought it off this guy from down staffordshire 7k in the hand had it 18 months spent 2k on it and tried to px it and found out it was on hp ,went the lads house he had to remortgage and settle the debt ,lol
Jb nice motors though
yea but it still had the caravan attached to it and was parked in the middle of a field along side a load of other carravans lol
PAUL

HawkMan
18-03-2006, 09:39 PM
Pikeys christ they,ll get where shot couldnt ,get on ya green fields ,
God does anyone know this lad
Jb
Nehh hows the engine been on it ive got a freelander now and it was the worst mistake i ever made ,im getting a porsche or VW soon ?
Jb

Kennelre
18-03-2006, 09:43 PM
Ah, Landrovers...now you're talking, the earlier the better! Who needs heat or comfort or any of those new fangled inventions when you can drive a serious untouched primitive. The rain leaking through the side windows only adds to the glamour of it all...I love 'em!

Sparrow Hawker
18-03-2006, 09:46 PM
NEHH what year is your discovery? Wondering how your other Landy was doing, going well is it? lol

All The Best,

HH

North East Harris Hawker
18-03-2006, 09:56 PM
the disco (1995)engine is like a sewing machine, just keeps plodding on, those discos like track rod ends tho,! :shock: wish i had a pound for every one ive changed, oil changes every 6k thats diff/transfer/gearbox/and engine, drove it to gibraltar last year, its going to spain again this year. the series 3 has finally got a "new" 1982 5 bearing 2286cc diesel engine in it (after i blew the last one up) i need to wire up the ignition and lights but it'll be ready for the summer.
fondest memory in the old series was last year..
was driving along with the mrs and the low sun went into my eyes...i flipped down the sun visor to block it. the mrs reached up to flip hers down... "hey! where is my sun visor?" to which i replied "since when did you NEED one? this is a land rover love, passengers dont get luxuries" :lol:
words such as "shed" "wreck" "jolloppy" and "heap" came from her mouth, funny though how she always finds an excuse to drive it!

North East Harris Hawker
08-05-2006, 09:25 PM
been busy monkeying around with the series again today... its in for its mot tomorrow...fingers crossed....
the mrs took the discovery out to the shops today and its came back minus a back box... her clio came back minus a back box last week...what on earth is she doing with them? perhaps she has an obsessive compulsive disorder and is secretly stashing back boxes somewhere?

HawkMan
08-05-2006, 09:30 PM
As long as she,s happy m8 thats all that counts me wiife robs milk of door steps ,God love her ,lol
Jb

Hacker
08-05-2006, 09:34 PM
Aaahhhh! Land Rovers,
i was competing in the first Warn Off Road Transylvania Trophy and we entered in a LR90 fitted with an Iveco 2.5 TDi engine.
We came second in class against a multinational team of approx 50 crews.
The motor ran as sweet as a nut during the whole event, even when we completed an 11km river section sometimes roof deep.
I will see if i can get some pics posted, plus of a few other events, Munich Marrakesch etc.

North East Harris Hawker
12-05-2006, 08:22 PM
well, my serious 3 passed its mot, theres a bit of an overheating problem now... ive flushed and backflushed both the engine and the radiator, swapped the thermostat and its now running a bit cooler.. but not cvool enough! looks like a new sender unit first before the water pump comes off!
... one day i might take it up to 50 !

Gos212
12-05-2006, 09:32 PM
My Series 3 isnt quite ready for an MOT yet !

Got to put on a new half chassis, springs, replace all the outriggers, gearbox and the list goes on !

But the engines OK, I think.

North East Harris Hawker
13-05-2006, 10:00 PM
heheh, me and my mate started with a complete 90 last thursday and by the end of the day it was in the same state as your serious 3 !!
heheh that one of yours qualifies for the name "serious" by the looks of it!
i saw a 1/4 chassis for that on ebay yesterday.. not sure if its still there
have you sourced a gearbox/transfer box for it yet?
outriggers are pretty cheap, steve graham up in middlesbrough has got loads of springs laid about pretty cheap too.
by the way, what year is yours?

Gos212
14-05-2006, 12:19 AM
Its a 1975 SWB DieselTruck Cab. The engine is quite good and I got a spare gearbox with it. I have another gearbox from another Series 3 I had a few years ago so should be able to get one good one out of all of them !

I bought the half chassis, parabolic springs, outriggers and dumb irons from Paddock Motors a few weeks ago. Thought the carriage costs would be horrendous but if you order on-line carriage is free, place the order by phone and they charge for it. Haven't managed to quite work that one out yet but I aint complaining !

Ive got plenty of welding to do during the moult !

My plan is to fit a snow plough on it and run that off a PTO driven hydraulic pump I have. Wether it works or not is another story !

This is the 90 I run at the moment

North East Harris Hawker
14-05-2006, 09:10 PM
ha ha ha! a bloody snow plough! oh well, im sure you have your reasons :lol:
theres a lot to be said for keeping things simple and i recon land rovers just cannot be knocked when it comes to any form of DIY repairs. Ive just been down to aldershot today to pick up a front grille for my mates 2A its a late one with wing mounted lights (same as the S3) and finding the front grille for it was a nightmare. got one though, so my mate will be pleased.
keep the photos coming throughout the restoration, i for one will be pleased to see how the old truck looks at the end of it.
lee

James_Falconry1
15-05-2006, 09:40 AM
Ah, Landrovers...now you're talking, the earlier the better! Who needs heat or comfort or any of those new fangled inventions when you can drive a serious untouched primitive. The rain leaking through the side windows only adds to the glamour of it all...I love 'em!


Thats what i like to hear a wax jacket wen its raining a jumper in the cold and manual air con on the dash in the summer, About 8 bolts and its a convertible quicker than those electrical roofs that come down and cant break it eaither. Sesies 2 or 3 Exelent machines.

Jimmy

North East Harris Hawker
18-05-2006, 05:43 PM
hey, you ve got me thinking now with that last post... it could be time to get the roof off, only problem being the top seat belt mounts.. time for a snoop on ebay me thinks!

James_Falconry1
18-05-2006, 06:32 PM
hey, you ve got me thinking now with that last post... it could be time to get the roof off, only problem being the top seat belt mounts.. time for a snoop on ebay me thinks!


Took the roof off me mates the other, cant beat it and the roof will stay off until september at the earlies.
Great fun with the roof down easy for some late rabit shooting from all angles. Wheve welded a bbq up for the rear tub wen the womens rounders is on bbq at the vilage hall.

JIimmy

Falco Peregrinus
25-05-2006, 10:57 AM
ahhhh-Landrovers, the sound of the engine starting early in the morning, as we head off for a days hawking-music to my ears!!
I love them!! Dads got a Turbo diesel defender. Taken it for a spin a few times round the field!! bring on the sweet age of 17!lol
14798

Hacker
25-05-2006, 08:48 PM
AAaaaaaHHhhhhhhhhhh! Bl****y Landrovers,
Driving down windy country lane at 6.30am when,BANG!!!!!!! rear end locks up and swerves landrover into path of car coming the other way.
Don`t panic, quick correction on steering wheel and pull it back.
Get out and have a look at rear end of rear prop resting on the floor!
HHhhhhmmmmmm could be expensive?
Tow truck home and a quick spanner session tonight finds the culprit.
The rear Pinion bearing started to fail and dropped it`s rollers into the path of the crownwheel and pinion gear, hence the whole lot coming to an abrupt halt, causing the torque and momentum of the engine to shear of the end of the pinion gear shaft where it is bolted to the prop flange.
halfshafts okay so £85.00 for a s/hand diff and bobs your uncle.
A lot easier doing it on your back on the drive than in the desert.
AAaaaaaHHhhhhhhhhh!!! Landrovers.:supz: :evil:

Kennelre
25-05-2006, 09:38 PM
90 in.Heritage..leather seats..Can you believe it leather seats in a Landrover?
Any way, coming back from the Stafford bike show a couple of weeks back and just pulling off the M6, very very strange noise. You know when you hear that sort of noise and you look around and really hope it's the bloke next to you because it's definitely one of those 'you are seriously not going to make it home' sort of noises. Well, I looked around and there was no one else there, so had to admit it was us. Fuel Pump, says himself....How far are we going to get? says I.........I'll try to make it to the other side of the roundabout, he says. God, you have to love landrovers, even a bloody breakdown is some SAS type bonding experience!

AngelJakki
26-05-2006, 07:55 AM
I can sympathis Hacker. Was driving my 110 along and bang jolt to the right same as you then like driving on ice. stabalizing arm had snapped £52 and abit of grinding as new bit needed abit of jiggery pockery back on the road but I have to admit I love my landy and can't wait to get it finished.
14809:heart: :heart: :heart:

Falco Peregrinus
26-05-2006, 03:31 PM
Perfect!!!
14813
Her Party trick! lol
14814

Hacker
26-05-2006, 09:10 PM
Wacked in the new diff, bolted it all up and went off for an exploratry drive.
25 yds and bang!!!!!
Front UJ on propshaft exploded!!
Obviously stressed from original breakage , even no outward signs.
Got it all of and cleaned off, so buy a new one tommorrow , get it on and away we go!!!
I hope.

Hacker
26-05-2006, 09:22 PM
Maybe too new a model for that?

Falco Peregrinus
26-05-2006, 09:35 PM
ahhhh-Landrovers, the sound of the engine starting early in the morning, as we head off for a days hawking-music to my ears!!
I love them!! Dads got a Turbo diesel defender. Taken it for a spin a few times round the field!! bring on the sweet age of 17!lol
http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=14798&d=1148550909

__________________
Your supposed to drive these things with your top off:yawinkle:


I allowed my 15 yr daughter to take part in this forum thinking Naively she would be safe from old pervs dropping insinuations.This is out of order.
Jon Rundle.

Graham Stuart
26-05-2006, 09:48 PM
i apologise there was a post earlier regarding a landy with the top off, sorry to cause offence i have removed the post:yawinkle:

Pitbull
26-05-2006, 11:34 PM
I can sympathis Hacker. Was driving my 110 along and bang jolt to the right same as you then like driving on ice. stabalizing arm had snapped £52 and abit of grinding as new bit needed abit of jiggery pockery back on the road but I have to admit I love my landy and can't wait to get it finished.
14809:heart: :heart: :heart:

bloody thing..:evil:

Game & Pursuit Falcon UK
26-05-2006, 11:43 PM
Just blew out a tyre on mine Oooooops. Anyone have a good second hand 31" Grizzly claw?

AngelJakki
27-05-2006, 10:44 AM
bloody thing..:evil:
Shut up you. Its a landy thing you just can't get to grips with it. Ya big puff :heart: :heart:

Pitbull
27-05-2006, 01:15 PM
Shut up you. Its a landy thing you just can't get to grips with it. Ya big puff :heart: :heart:

PMSL:lol:

North East Harris Hawker
31-05-2006, 12:48 PM
these trucks rock, ok they break down, but all vehicles do eventually.
at least these things are all pretty simple to fix. there is a massive abundance of second hand spares out there ready to put them right.
.
heres an interesting fact.
Over 70% of ALL land rovers EVER produced are STILL on the road!
.
so to those who have doubts, take a closer look!
.
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Land rovers dont leak oil...they mark their territory!
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Game & Pursuit Falcon UK
31-05-2006, 01:09 PM
Believe it or not NEHH I have a 1992 V8 disco that dosent leak a drop!!! Keep looking it just will not do it LOL.

Hacker
31-05-2006, 04:26 PM
Here`s a pic of us in the Welsh hillrally.
Modified production class,
Engine 4.5ltr TVR modified race engine
Gearbox ZF 4 speed auto jag box heavy duty pack.
The rest, just to much to mention.
Performance top speed approx 125mph.
Will out accelerate BMW M power 5 Series.
Example, if you floor the throttle from a stand still, it will shred lumps of rubber of Michelin M&S Tyres.
A standard fitment to both Discovery and Range rovers.
Sorry about pic quality but taken from a 3 foot pic on the wall.

AngelJakki
31-05-2006, 06:34 PM
wow awesome pic. Can I pick your brain over landies:lol: :lol:

Hacker
01-06-2006, 08:21 PM
As long as it does not hurt:lol: :lol: :lol:

AngelJakki
01-06-2006, 08:30 PM
It was making a real rattly sound when I took my foot of the accelerator so I took it to my mechanic today as I was abit worried. It was one of the uj joints on the prop shaft got it sorted for me he's a real gent one of the good uns but I shall pm you to pick your brains if thats ok in the future. I got my new side steps today so excited but not allowed to fit them until I got a repsray. I may convert the old git yet (pitbull) he's on about getting one now too since he has been driving mine. lol

Hacker
01-06-2006, 08:34 PM
Anytime, i`ll see if i can scan some of our desert racing pic`s and get them on here.

AngelJakki
01-06-2006, 10:31 PM
Anytime, i`ll see if i can scan some of our desert racing pic`s and get them on here.
That would be cool:supz:

BrianM
01-06-2006, 10:38 PM
i got mine bogged down last night while out foxin, had to call the farmer out at 1am with the tractor to pull me out ,,,,,good job hes a good natured soul ,, lol

Paddy1
01-06-2006, 10:38 PM
i got mine bogged down last night while out foxin, had to call the farmer out at 1am with the tractor to pull me out ,,,,,good job hes a good natured soul ,, lol




oooops bet that pleased him pmsl

Hacker
01-06-2006, 10:39 PM
i got mine bogged down last night while out foxin, had to call the farmer out at 1am with the tractor to pull me out ,,,,,good job hes a good natured soul ,, lol
Do you have a High Lift jack?

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2006, 09:40 PM
It was one of the uj joints on the prop shaft got it sorted for me he's a real gent

theres a lot of weight to push around, prop shaft u/j s are a common item to replace, the genuine article is £40 from your dealer (or at least it is for a discovery) and if your a bit of a mong like me, half an hour to get the prop shaft off, fifteen minuted to get the old u/j out ....here we go...2 and a half hours to get the new one in. (dont ask...i just could not get the circlips in) and half an hour to re-fit the prop shaft...
There was a lot of monkeying around with a heat gun in my case as the u/j would not fit, then there was a major issue with the circlips.. you'll need a good vice and some decent quality sockets!
all good fun tho

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2006, 09:43 PM
apologiesd for double post, the disco passed its mot first time yesterday, just an advisory on the off side anti roll bar link (daft job albeit expensive) the old S3 passed its mot a month or so back and its new water pump and gasket turned up today. my new sender unit should arrivve soon too...lets hope that cures the overheating problem!

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2006, 09:50 PM
dont scrap it yet.. theres a year or so left in it!
my 1971 series three known as "poo" on its 3rd engine (just fitted)!
new wheels and free wheeling hubs fitted (wooo posh)
AND its got a heater! ( i know..im a flash git )
carpet? dont be silly!
does it live up to its name? sometimes!

Hacker
07-06-2006, 10:03 PM
How long before your freewheeling hubs pay for themselves and start to show a saving on fuel?
methinks a lot of miles!:lol:

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2006, 10:06 PM
i recon about 8 years or so (if i actually start using it more)
ha ha ha!

Hacker
07-06-2006, 10:07 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2006, 10:13 PM
seems like its a never ending thing, christ knows what im gonna do once there is nothing left to fix on it.... our local dealer wants to have her in on an exibition next to the 70k range rovers!
dont think i could bring myself to sell her now tho, i might start a small driving school with "poo" as the main training vehicle...

Hacker
07-06-2006, 10:18 PM
I`ve got a S IIA sat in my garage that was restored years ago and still has not gone anywhere.

Hacker
07-06-2006, 10:31 PM
Here`s one for you.
Did a speed trial along the Atlantic seaboard outside Casablanca, probably 100kms long , all sand, cresting some 40 mtr high sand dunes in a J reg 2.5tdi Disco, brand new at the time.
Biggest problem suffered by all small capacity turbo engines was the power sapping capabilities of the sand.
When you cannot get away from it, the weakness of the power plant shows up.
All small capacity turbos run at high revs, very difficult to maintain when in power sapping sand.
You then need to slip the clutch in order to keep the revs up and the turbo on song or you do not go anywhere.
Problem is, you cannot afford to fry the clutch or with many revs , slip and fry the drive belts.
We retired after approx 50 kms in order to save the motor for the next 8 days of competition in the desert.
Many motors died on the beach that day including some of the trucks that had twin 12 ltr turbo engines driving each axle.
Yes thats right, one engine per axle, amazing.
One friend owns an 8 wheel drive Man ex missile launcher support truck that he has used in Paris Dakar, that just swims through the sand with all axles, split and locked.

AndyYounger
07-06-2006, 10:33 PM
here is a pic of my old disco. it was amazing the places this went with just a set of BFG MT's

AndyYounger
07-06-2006, 10:41 PM
here is a couple of my 110. the shogun sport in the first photo is mickeydredds.

Paddy1
07-06-2006, 10:42 PM
here is a couple of my 110. the shogun sport in the first photo is mickeydredds.


i wnna go lol:supz: :supz:

Hacker
07-06-2006, 10:50 PM
The water needs to be at nostril level:lol: :lol: :lol:

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2006, 11:09 PM
brilliant photos andy, thats what land rovers are all about! shame you didnt have a phot of it winching the mistsubishi out of the river! :supz:

.
interesting about th esapping qualities of the sand... an interesting point to note is that the army use a special desert tyre on their land rovers, used at low pressure the tyre only has a loop pattern that runs around the circumfrance of the tyre. ie no tread across the width of the tyre. im not sure how many but its only 5 or 6 rings around the tyre, apparently it makes all the difference:?:

Hacker
07-06-2006, 11:14 PM
Yes, sand is a killer on power,
although my m8 was competing in a 4.2ltr V8 LR 90 and that just romped all the trials winning the day.

AndyYounger
07-06-2006, 11:15 PM
in fairness the mitsubishi was fine with the water. the owner was cacking himself though.

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2006, 11:18 PM
pmsl, id love one of those 110's, but i need to save a few quid first. i know what i want... a late ...late 300tdi county station wagon...red, black, green or silver...on a galvanised chassis if possible..im easily pleased!

Hacker
07-06-2006, 11:25 PM
Sad Geezer:supz: :supz: :supz:

SSL
08-06-2006, 04:19 PM
here is a couple of my 110. the shogun sport in the first photo is mickeydredds.

Did he follow you in picture 2? :lol:

IAmTheWeasel
10-06-2006, 08:55 AM
Ok folks..I broke down and bought a 91 model Range rover......really cheap as it has electrical issues. Namely, no spark to the plugs....I started at the coil and replaced it....still no spark.....my question to ya'll is what should I try next. The ignition module or the distributor pick up module? .....or are there other possibilities.....I will post pics soon....I paid 1900 for it....about 800 quid I think?

moonraker
10-06-2006, 10:15 AM
how do you rate them as a falconry vehicle?
Iv'e got a Disco XS 2.5 td also which is as good as my old Defender off road, but my fave is my series 3 petrol(with overdrive) short wheelbase.I have used both onthe flat stuff here in Norfolk and all over Salisbury Plain. Jim

North East Harris Hawker
10-06-2006, 10:17 AM
IAMTHEWEASEL
take the king lead (coil to distibuter) out of the distributer...poke your finger into the lead until you touch the electrode.
get someone to turn the ignition switch briefly.
do you get electrocuted?
yes= the fault is "downhill" between the distributer and the plugs
no= try replacing the king lead with an HT lead and trying again (the king lead may be defective) but if there is still no voltage the fault is "uphill"
if youve changed the coil there should be voltage but this is the method i use.
*coil voltage is very high but the amperage is very low, ive never heard of anyone dropping dead from a HT lead but just in case you do... dont blame me :wink:

MickeyDredd
10-06-2006, 11:01 AM
Did he follow you in picture 2? :lol:

Yes I bloody well did....i have the laundry bill to prove it. ;) post the pic up to silence the doubters Andy.

Bearing in mind i have crappy road tyres on the Shogun it performed pretty well I'd say. It coped with the river crossing and the inclines - it was only the where we hit snow on the steep bits it couldnt cope because it was on slicks.

With a good set of tyres it would have done the biz no problem.

SSL
10-06-2006, 05:20 PM
respect to mickey :supz:

IAmTheWeasel
11-06-2006, 09:26 PM
Here is a picture of my new toy....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/Iamtheweasel/Copy1ofIMG_1670.jpg

AndyYounger
14-06-2006, 02:04 PM
Sorry not been on for a few days.
Mike i will put the pics on tonight when i get in from work.
Andy.

KillaZ_Eyes
14-06-2006, 02:07 PM
Weasel, what it like on fuel

IAmTheWeasel
14-06-2006, 04:09 PM
Don't know yet as I still don't have it running....Waiting on the service manual to arrive so i can trace out the elecrtical system. It's still getting no spark to the coil so it is before that point.

GregMik
14-06-2006, 04:18 PM
You going to teach Denice to drive that? You need to get a $300 beater for her first mate!!

Greg

Hacker
14-06-2006, 05:08 PM
Ok folks..I broke down and bought a 91 model Range rover......really cheap as it has electrical issues. Namely, no spark to the plugs....I started at the coil and replaced it....still no spark.....my question to ya'll is what should I try next. The ignition module or the distributor pick up module? .....or are there other possibilities.....I will post pics soon....I paid 1900 for it....about 800 quid I think?
Could be fault in low tension wiring circuit,Faulty amplifier

SakerYZF
14-06-2006, 05:19 PM
Got a 3a SWB with a 3ltr V6 and gas conversion , overdrive range rover diffs ( yes it does 90mph);-) loads more to list can't remember exactly off hand aslo tax exempt very cheep to run insure maintain...

Even got a sun roof for throwing the hawk/falcon out of:-D

Its at present having a newer egine put in , and brought up to MOT standard then i'll be selling it ... very reluctantly i'll add.... If anyone is interested i'll try sort out some pictures etc. its been pretty much built as a falconry vehicle, hawk **** removed however:-P

Anyone's interested plz PM me....

IAmTheWeasel
14-06-2006, 05:26 PM
Could be fault in low tension wiring circuit,Faulty amplifierWhat's low tension wiring? what's an amplifier?

IAmTheWeasel
14-06-2006, 05:28 PM
You going to teach Denice to drive that? You need to get a $300 beater for her first mate!!

Greg
It drives over curbs rather easily....that was my main concern. If you had seen her drive before, you would agree....Plus, this is the perfect hawking vehicle too...loads of room for the birds and the dog.

GregMik
14-06-2006, 05:52 PM
It drives over curbs rather easily....that was my main concern. If you had seen her drive before, you would agree....Plus, this is the perfect hawking vehicle too...loads of room for the birds and the dog.

That it why the $300 one first.....:lol:

Greg

Gosher
15-06-2006, 01:07 PM
a friend of mine has the registration GO55AWK,waiting to go on his car.

SSL
15-06-2006, 01:09 PM
a friend of mine has the registration GO55AWK,waiting to go on his car.

Whats he fly? :roll:

IAmTheWeasel
15-06-2006, 01:54 PM
Well, my service manual came in yesterday and I am about sick of testing ****. I tested the distributer output to the Ingnition module....OK @ 3500ohms so that checked out, but when I test from the positive of the battery to the negative of the coil, the book says I am supposed to read 0 volts. If there is a voltage there, then the ignition module is faulty....well, I already put in a brand new module the day before. I am reading both sides of the coil with 12 volts to the positive side of the battery. I traced back the wires and everything looks good in the battery compartment, but when I crapk the engine, I am only getting one weak spark from the coil HT wire to ground instead of a steady spark. Either the book is wrong, or I have another faulty Module to replace.

Hacker
15-06-2006, 02:06 PM
have you checked the air gap between the pick up limb and the reluctor teeth, use a non ferrous gauge. 0.20-0.35mm

Hacker
15-06-2006, 02:14 PM
Well, my service manual came in yesterday and I am about sick of testing ****. I tested the distributer output to the Ingnition module....OK @ 3500ohms so that checked out, but when I test from the positive of the battery to the negative of the coil, the book says I am supposed to read 0 volts. If there is a voltage there, then the ignition module is faulty....well, I already put in a brand new module the day before. I am reading both sides of the coil with 12 volts to the positive side of the battery. I traced back the wires and everything looks good in the battery compartment, but when I crapk the engine, I am only getting one weak spark from the coil HT wire to ground instead of a steady spark. Either the book is wrong, or I have another faulty Module to replace.
Are you talking about Test No.3 Amplifier switching?

IAmTheWeasel
15-06-2006, 02:29 PM
I cannot get the protective cover off the distributer. There are three screws located there and even in the manual it says not to mess with these as they are self setting (I think).
Hacker,
I don't think this is the same test as for that switching test, I would need to turn over the motor as I tested the voltage to see if it increased...The problem is that the manual states to test from the positive bat terminal to the neg coil....I think they meant otherwise. Does anyone else have a vehicle to verify this?

Jester
15-06-2006, 03:14 PM
i dunno if this helps but one time i had an spark problem (admittedly on a bike so it is quite likely different) where i was getting no spark to one of the coils.

after a huge amount of hassle changing plug leads, swapping coils over, changing the igniter unit ... (not cheap :evil: ) etc.etc. the problem was a broken wire at the back of the rev counter. obviously this might only be something to look at if you have an electronically driven rev counter.



might be no help at all in which case just ignore my ramblings .......... its the heat you know:oops:

IAmTheWeasel
15-06-2006, 04:18 PM
Funny you should mention it, as the tach is not working right now....I don't really see how that would affect it, but I have tried just about everything else, so I will try that too.
Cheers,
Weasel

MickeyDredd
15-06-2006, 04:50 PM
a friend of mine has the registration GO55AWK,waiting to go on his car.

I've got AL51DUS ;) :lol:

OutFlying
15-06-2006, 05:29 PM
I've got AL51DUS ;) :lol:


Why are you getting a white shogun ???? ;)

Jim.

Tim Laycock
15-06-2006, 06:06 PM
Why are you getting a white shogun ???? ;)

Jim.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

MickeyDredd
15-06-2006, 06:19 PM
Why are you getting a white shogun ???? ;)

Jim.

is that what they're called? ;) :lol: Gee, I'd heard they were big!!

Jester
15-06-2006, 09:00 PM
Funny you should mention it, as the tach is not working right now....I don't really see how that would affect it, but I have tried just about everything else, so I will try that too.
Cheers,
Weasel

the tach might get its feed from the pulses going to the coil or at least it will be part of the same circuit and if the wire is broken or shorting out somewhere then the power wont reach the coils

Hacker
15-06-2006, 09:20 PM
I cannot get the protective cover off the distributer. There are three screws located there and even in the manual it says not to mess with these as they are self setting (I think).
Hacker,
I don't think this is the same test as for that switching test, I would need to turn over the motor as I tested the voltage to see if it increased...The problem is that the manual states to test from the positive bat terminal to the neg coil....I think they meant otherwise. Does anyone else have a vehicle to verify this?
That is right, connect between batt + and coil - the voltmeter should register 0 volts.
Switch on ignition and you should still see 0 volts, crank engine and the voltage should increase if okay, if not proceed to test 4,Pick Up Coil Resistance.
Hope this helps!

IAmTheWeasel
16-06-2006, 04:30 PM
I am getting a full 12 volts across the posotive of the battery to the negative of the coil no matter if the ignition is on or off. Only other item to replace is the pick up unuit in the distributor. I talked with a Range rover mech yesterday and he gave me a littl improv tip on how to check a few things. One was to remove the distributor top, pull the coil wire loose from the cap and lay it on the engine block. I will then take a soldering iron, plug it in and lay it near the pick up unit on the distributor. This will simulate the rotors magnetic field and cause the coil to fire rapidly.
Hacker, I checked the volts and this is no good as I get the full volts across batt to coil, so I checked the resistance value of the pick up coil and it is sitting at 3500 ohms which is right in the middle of it's proper setting of 2000-5000 ohms....One other thing to note, is that the battery is under a steady drain and I had to charge it up yesterday.

IAmTheWeasel
17-06-2006, 03:27 PM
HA!!! I got it running! I went to the local Land rover Mech and I started looking at a few of the vehicles in his yard that where of the same or close year model. Everything they had wired, was exactly the same as on mine, so I concluded that it was either a connection or the Pick up unit. I tried the experiment that the mech told me about with a soldering iron and it showed no spark. I bought a used Pick up unit to install in the distributor and a new set of plug wires. I pulled the distributor out and installed the new unit. Once it was all put back in, it started right up! Now all I have to do is adjust the timing on it and I will be set to go!

Hacker
17-06-2006, 03:42 PM
Congatulations!
Happy motoring, now we just need a piccy of it full of your birds.

North East Harris Hawker
17-06-2006, 08:28 PM
Brilliant news weasel, you got yourself a real bargain with that truck, so now that you have figured out its electrical problem how much does the vehicle stand you to date?
what size engine is it? it looks really smart for the year