Vinny "The Hooligan Jones" 2003 Tiercel Hybrid

[Hawkmaster]

04/10/2004 - Day One
Took him up yesterday. Simply used Helsinger jesses and a hood. This little man has attitude and is mean as HELL!

Instead of just bating he launches an attack on you everytime? I LOVE him to death!

He is pretty and has the sweetest face, when not biting. The new colours he has moulted out into are brill, a sort of slate grey blue and a perfect feather moult too!

I bought this bird as a Peregrine/Prairie, but he could also be a Gyr/Prairie, I will confirm this once the breeder sees him as he will know if the dad is a Peregrine or Silver Gyrkin?

Got him home at 5:30pm, he bates and spends most the time upside down and will not come back up! The hood is the only way to shut him up!

19:15pm he weighed 705gr (1lbs 8⅞oz), so not to bad.

Started to offer him food on the fist at 11pm, after he returned to the fist for the first time, this calmed him a bit and I knew he was interested in eating. Everything I do is in super slow mo and I feel this is the craziest falcon I have ever had to man!

BREAKTHROUGH! 01:15am got him to eat two gutted chicks, but he tossed the heads, so that was 47gr he had to eat, and then I thought he may allow me to touch him more? WRONG!!!

Getting on for 2am I could not stand the constant fighting he was putting up and was just waiting for a good note to finish on??? It never came. I man-handled him and put the hood on and put him on the block, switched off all the lights and removed the hood, well what a surprise, ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE AGAIN, SCREAMING, BATING & THRASHING ABOUT!

I left him carrying on downstairs on his own, and still creating, for 10 minutes and then decided to do what I really did not want to. I hooded him and was able to go to sleep.

[Darren]

how many birds do you have?. you are going to have a few diarys going then

[Hawkmaster]

Yes, I have a few, but will not fly more than the 3 I am now, the Gos and the 2 falcons. I only have diaries for the falcons as I think new people may learn from them, but with the Gos a big part of it is done by feel.

[Wightwings]

sounds a nutter!! aint they just the best. :)

[Hawkmaster]

05/10/2004 - Day Two
Got up this morning at 9:30am to check on the nutter! :shock: My wife had removed the hood this morning so he could cast and he had, and to my amazement there he was sitting perfectly still and quite looking so sweet and pretty. :P

BUT I had to enter the room? :evil: Here we go again! Quick got him up and he surprisingly came back to the fist? Simply sat with him to calm and tried the hood, he took it well, but I found that it had rubbed on his right eyebrow, so a bigger one was sort, he now wears a tiercel Gos hood.

Manned him the whole day on the fist till 14:30pm when I popped the hood on and took him to the field to fly Quinn. He was blocked and bated and settled to watch the show in the field.

In total he was manned between flying, picking up kids from school, shopping, cooking food and a break for my daughters seventh birthday cake sing along, which he watch and calmly observed from the block. I have worked out a total of about 8 solid hours on the glove, the rest of the time with or near me.

We now can walk near him without bating, type one handed and he is not that fearful of the bare hand as much, sit and get up with him next to me on the pc, touch his breast, hood him and best of he does shut up most the time, until approached too closely, then he may bate or make his blood curdling scream!

11:20pm he was 656gr (1lbs 7⅛oz) so we know he drops weight on 47gr which he had yesterday.

Yesterday he fed on the fist, today was step two, offered him a chick leg on the block and he stepped up for it and fed. Offered another he strechted and did a long step up. Now the big one, half a body for a one foot jump, whistled and presto! Kept doing this for 5 more pieces and he came 4 foot to the fist, until he was not interested anymore.

Fed 60gr of gutted DOC he weighted 723gr (1lbs 9½oz) afterwards so we will work out what his metabolism is tomorrow, to keep hikm steady.

After feeding he went MAD again and did not want to be messed with, so I waited for a calm moment and blocked him next to me.

He is now restfull and very cute! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Darren]

looks like he is warming to ya

[Hawkmaster]

Well today he waas a monster all day so far. :twisted:

Weighed him at 10:30am and he had lost 35 gr in 11 hours
Weighed him again at 14:15 and he had lost another 8gr in 3 and 3/4 hours. Looks like and average of 3gr and hour is what I can work on for now.

He has been on the fist since 9:30am until 14:15pm 8)

Off to the field to see if he is interested in the lure?

[Falcon]

It sounds like he prefers your wife HM :lol: Does your wife participate in falconry? Look out you'll be loosing Vinny to her!!!!!!hehehe :wink: :lol: How do you find the time for two falcons and a Goshawk HM? I can't find enough time in the day for all the animals, chickens, husband, kids and one hawk let alone 3!!!!!!!!!! Saying that I suppose if you want anything bad enough, you'll find time :wink:

[Hawkmaster]

Man Vinny on the fist, Quinn on the block next to me, but she does not need it any more now. Fly at around 2pm and the Gos at night.

Took load of pics of him today here he is . . .

[Falcon]

Nice looking bird there! I'm tempted to copy the picture and have a go at sketching his head!

[Darren]

very nice bird indeed

[Hawkmaster]

Thanks Guys, I will see if I can add better pictures.
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06/10/2004 DAY THREE

Took him to the field and he would not even go for the lure under the block. Only fed 30gr of DOC at home jumping to the fist.---------------------------------------------------------------------------
07/10/2004 DAY FOUR

Used the lure in doors and he came 20 ft across the room and instant too
Fed him 30gr as he just stopped and went off the idea after that.
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08/10/2004 DAY FIVE

2pm he was 683gr (1lbs 8⅛oz) this should be his flying weight We will see how he does at the field today?

Well he was looking all over the show and not paying attention to anything, but did come after a while. He made 10 and then 15 metres. We also had an episode on the creance, the wind was quite strong and I must say he makes a good kite and also flies straight UP! Done a load of jump ups, which were a waste of time so flew him back and forth in the room. Still screaming aggressively when approached or if you even come near, bates like a madman! getting better at close quarter on the fist though. Does not scream at the hood anymore.

Fed him 50gr DOC

[Falcon]

Nice picture HM! I like that he's a really nice looking bird!

[Hawkmaster]

Cheers, pity the camera is not up to it, I want to show his blue head.
Hopefully here is a better one to see his Grey Gyr colour.

[Hawkmaster]

09/10/2004 DAY SIX

Can't believe he lost so much weight, he was 638gr (1lbs 6½oz) at 15:35pm mind you it was an hour and a half later than usual, as I was out having a gas with Quinn in the high winds.

It started raining after I got back and decided to just do him in the house AGAIN? Gave him acombination of calls to the lure and fist. He was Great and flew very fast and instant, it was like his head has just kicked into gear and now understands what it is all about. Hopefully we will see this on the creance line too.

Fed 89gr of DOCs

[Hawkmaster]

10/10/2004 DAY SEVEN

OH NO!!!!! MY BIRD HAS BEEN STOLEN!!!





Nevermind whoever did it left me a pretty well mannered Gyr/Prairie, that does not shout at you when you approach or attack! WOW, what a difference he has been today?

This has been to most hassles I have ever had to put up with from a falcon and now it looks like it is all worth it? Or will tomorrow bring that evil sprog back?

2pm he was 647gr (1lbs 6⅞oz) Unfortunately the wind today was the same one they had in Japan for the F1 Grand Prix and it was raining too. So all I did was fly him indoors again. He was even better today than yesterday. He would even come around the corner to come look for me, without seeing me. The lure is just AWESOME!

He is rather placid and tame and is quite happy to jump on me and sit on my knee or where ever I tap and call him too.

Fed him 80gr of DOC :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Shaun Byrne]

Sounds like you've got it sorted mate, or is he just leading you on until you let him free lol!
Got to hand it to you with your persistance, a lesser man may have thrown in the towel!
Did you skirt round Falcons question about the wife or did I miss the answer lol!

[Hawkmaster]

Oops yes, sorry Sarah, Kerri does love the look of him but was put off by the constant noise, biting, fighting and bating! We will have to see now/ She has already said she will just fly Sultan, our Male HH.

I hope we have cracked it now, but with all the hassle I will not hold my hopes too high.

[Darren]

hope he stay's calm for u now & carries on like this

[Matt]

hawk master did the breeder confirm that the bird is 50% gyrkin if not i would think that he is by the look of those pics he looks very thick set in his shoulders and has very chunky feet but his weight would not sugest gyr blood as that seems a bit light ? what do you think he is ? also is he creche reared imprint or foster reared? i had a peresaker falcon that was a real screamer and she was 50%creche 50%foster i would love to hear more about this side of him as i have an intrest in falcons allso.
all the best matt
ps well done so far mate its A1 when the tide turns on the training of a falcon much more rewarding than mann other types of bird i think.

[Hawkmaster]

Thanks Guys. Matt I spoke to the breeder and he confirms most certainly light coloured Grey Gyr, but also said he is very light in weight. He is meant to be 100% imprint, but will talk to the bloke I got him off too.

11/10/2004 DAY EIGHT

Well today he was his wonderful little self indoors and jumped to the fist for a titbits sat on my knee and was just generally GOOD!

3pm Running late, he was 652gr (1lbs 7oz) a bit up on yesterday so we will see how he does? Took him to the field, he sat on his block, fine.

I laid out the creance line about 30 or so metres and went to attach it and ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE AGAIN!!! Oh it saddens me so. He was bating screaming and not wanting to get up on the fist and just being a VINNY JONES!

He came to the lure upto 40m but was not instant and once on it would not allow me too close to help him break in, he just screamed and mantled. Now I know he is too high. One good thing was instead of making him worse, I left him to finish on the lure and once he had, he flew to the fist about 4 or 5 metres for a chick wing?

Once home and on his block behind me, he is OK, but will not let me have anything to do with him and starts to scream, this is not a food scream but a warning aggressive scream.

I know training Gyrs is something to deal with and the Prairie I trained before made me never want one again, BUT a Gyr/Prairie??? I must be mad. Anyway the breeder said they take 2 weeks to kick in anyway, so we will see? :cry:

[Johnny]

HOPE IT ALL GOES WELL PAUL ,LOL YOU MUST HAVE THE PATIENCE OF A SAINT ,
aLL THE BEST
jOHNNY

[Hawkmaster]

12/10/2004 DAY NINE

Well, I had a real busy day, so not much time for the birds. Done only about 2 hours on the fist with him today. But the good thing is he is back to being a sweetie heart, see the piccie below.

6pm I weighed him and I could most certainly see a change in him at this weight, he was 633gr (1lbs 6⅜oz) Fed him 30gr of Doc, so that I can do him at this kind of weight at the field tomorrow.

Flew him for his food and called to the lure too. No mantling or screaming, just 100% A OK! He came to the kids too. We just need this outside on the creance now.

[Johnny]

Paul it all seems to be going good m8 .
Im made up for you
All the best
Johnny

[Hawkmaster]

13/10/2004 DAY TEN

Well by now I would expect him to be flying free, but due to rain and his bad behaviour we are a bit behind, so we will see how today goes.

Manned him on the fist today for 3 and a half hours, and the rest of the time, he sat around me in the computer room.

16:15pm he weighed 632gr (1lbs 6¼oz) Just where I wanted him today. Took him to the field where Quinn was located and put him on the creance, he played up a bit , but was OK.

Called him 25 metres just to settle him and he came like a rocket to a grounded lure and hit it hard carrying it a bit. Kerri took him back and popped him on the post, I doubled the creance by securing my bodkin at the end of the 50 metres. Swung the lure he he rocked across, instantly, to the 50 metre point.

Once he was there I noticed the wind had changed direction and we adjusted the flight path. He came four more times to 100 metres very well and then as Keri called him up the the glove, he went into NUTTER mode again. He had only had about a chick at this stage. I did not want him to only have so little food so I started to only call him 50 metres after he ignored me on a long one and preferred to sit and fight with Kerri.

This bird seems to fill up and then not want to have anything to do with you to the extent of violence!

I am taking him to class with me tonight and we will see if a bunch of about 18 people handling him will get him to settle or if he just continues to protest?

Fed him 72gr of DOC

[Johnny]

I hope it works paul you seem to be getting a hold of him now m8 ?
Keep up the good work m8
All the best
Johnny
Was the bird posing for us in the photo ,lol

[Hawkmaster]

14/10/2004 DAY ELEVEN

He was in a real bad mood again today cursing and shouting at any close moves to him. I decided today to just leave him and not have him on the fist at all.

After 3pm he start to, well what looked like bate towards me. So I came closer and sure enough he jump up on to my knee, I then offered my fist and he sat there rather happy. I repeated this several times just to make sure and yes he wanted to be with me, on the fist.

17:50 I weighed him and he was 625gr (1lbs 6oz) just where I wanted him, but he took a bit longer than I thought it may take to get him there.

Off to there field, out with the creance, and got him to come 100 metres, INSTANTLY! The next time around I could not get away from him, he just kept coming all the time. I thought right I would try him the wrong way down wind and he took off into wind and raked around and came 100%. So we had a new game calling him from one side to the other. It started to get dark and I decided to call him 50 metres to the fist as he done it so well indoors. He was instant too. I even threw food into the air for him and he powered up and took it everytime.

OK, so we are ready for flying free tomorrow if all goes well? He casts real quick but it still takes time for him to lose weight. Try to keep him in a good mood and with a bit of luck he will at most be 1 lbs 6oz.

I figure he loses 3.5gr per hour and at 7pm he was 703gr (1lbs 8¾oz) after being fed 3 DOCs about 90gr. SO if it works out correctly he needs to lose at least 78gr to fly him free and that means he would be ready in 22 hours, so at 5pm tomorrow it is ALL GO, GO, GO!

I must also kit him up and add this extra weigh, because up to now he has had no kit on.

I am HAPPY! :lol:

[Johnny]

im happy for you paul i hope it goes to plan (remember everything i taught you )
All the best the eaglemaster

[Shaun Byrne]

"Hooligans are go!!!" Good luck mate

[Hawkmaster]

15/10/2004 DAY TWELVE

16:50pm he was 632gr (1lbs 6¼oz) quarter ounce more than yesterday, but showing all the right signs. Got him out at the car and for once he was not giving me lip or causing a scene.

Took him to the same spot as yesterday popped him on the floor, walked off and I must mention I had my dad there and I had already put on his telemetry at home.

50 metres and swung the lure, before I called he was on his way! HO, Bang! One free flying bird. I left him there as I know how upset he can get.

Walked off 100 metres in the downwind direction and called, he was instant again. He took off and climbed, banked over to the left and came straight to the lure, I did a ground pass and he turned and then motored down on me, because he was high I did an overhead pass and he raked straight up! I gave him a HO and down he came like a rocket.

Called him up to a wing and walked him off to my dad. Popped him on a post and walked off 150 yards to the corner of the field where there is lift. Before I got there he came, so I just walked and he worked the wing for almost 5 minutes. Once high above me I dropped the lure and he came down like a stone.

After this he had a long flight of about 12 minutes, but did go out of sight, but from what we could tell by the trail of gulls and the telemetry, he was flying.

Tried my luck once more and after about 3 minutes he sat in a tree :cry: Not the end of the world but not what I want from a little hawk that has shown good gamehawk potential.

Tried the lure on the kite while he was there and he came out and did not want to even look at the lure on the kte, so we will have to start from scratch as it was about 50 foot. I thought this would be OK as he was flying about 50 to 76 foot already.

Took him home and fed the rest of his rations on the fist.

Fed 90gr of DOC

[Johnny]

congratulations m8
It,ll soon be hunting
All the best
johnny

[Shaun Byrne]

Nice one mate, free flight, thats what its all about!

[Darren]

it s all coming together for ya...pleased for u mate

[Hawkmaster]

Rain and other stuff like work killed the day, so I flew him indoors to the clicker for 94gr of DOC. He was quick and really good to the fist even if he did not see the food, which was most of the time.

I may want to use this to fix he aggressive behavior later. He has not quite grasped the whole idea behing it yet, but then it is the first time I have tried it too?

He is sharp set so I want his weight to go up!

He was 721gr (1lbs 9½oz)at 19:50pm, so he should be 657gr at 4pm and his target flying weight is around 680gr (1lbs 8oz)

[Hawkmaster]

Fitted a tail bell and Telemetry attachment to his tail deck feathers. New Brandy Kangaroo Aylmerii and flying jesses.

He was 644gr (1lbs 6¾oz) and ready to go out flying.

Took him to a filed where I thought there were partridges, put him up and he was only about 30 or so foot up, but was not worried as he would learn from his mistakes and hopefully go up.

Walked in and flushed! AND NOTHING, repeated this four times, nothing! Not even interested, weird really considering he wants to kill the Gos?

Took he to the Moors, as his tree habits were really getting on my nerves. He flies a while and then sits up in the closest tree.

Done some nice flying and it made me feel a bit better. Off to meet Phil!

Jade, Phils Pere/Saker killed a gull, WELL DONE!

I THEN DECIDED TO SEE IF VINNY WOULD BE INTERESTED?

Let him off, he done one pass and off to a tree, called him again and this time he passed and raked up, Phil threw out the dead gull, Vinny just panned out and then phil pulled the creance to make it move and he screamed down and gave it a good knock, raked up and grasped it.

He filled up and I took him off with the rest of his DOC, which was 95gr.

Seems to be really happy now.

[Hawkmaster]

At 3pm he was 625gr (1lbs 6oz) a bit low I thought, but forgot that he never had his tail bell on as it came off.

After his gull experience I thought I would she if that got him in the mood to look at chasing them? Found a good slip at some Magpies and seagull about 100 yard further in the field.

He rouses and was off, he went right past the one maggie and just hauled ass to the gulls, he chased them out of sight and over some trees at the golf course.

The next slip was from a high point near a trig beacon at Shaldon. The mistake I made here was too let him take on too far a slip really. They were about 200 yards away, but he set off in his own time and chased well and then I lost sight of him and he came around the hill after about 3 minutes. Very good to the lure.

On the last slip I was looking for a real close one, but there was not one closer than 100 yards or so. I parked up and crossed over a road and he started to play up screaming and fighting again. When I got to the gate I was a bit ticked off at his behavior and decided to just cast him off as he had already roused as we got out the car.

The rooks saw us and took off, he was in hot pursuit, in the evening sunset I was really battling to see him as his slate grey back fading into the ball of black rooks. The gulls just dissapeared and I never even nticed them as I found myself running like the wild boar from Borneo down this steep ploughed field.

Got to the hedge and gate and there I saw he had NAILED himself a rook, but I could tell in the last 50 metres or so anyway as the rest o the rooks were causing mayhem.

WELL CHUFFED :!: :lol:

He ate one side of the breast and then jumped off and I gave him the rest of his ration, which was 88gr of DOC. After getting home I fed him the other side of the breast.

[Shaun Byrne]

Wicked mate, hoping to get my Gyr/Saker on black stuff soon, well done

[Hawkmaster]

10gr to high yesterday but flew him anyway and he was still chasing but never had that committment to kill and bind. We will se how he goes today?

ENDED UP NOT FLYING DUE TO THE WONDERFUL RAIN

[Hawkmaster]

Right this is his weight today at 11:40am: 627gr (1lbs 6 1/8oz) Which is good and where he seems to be at his best. Took a friend out with me looking for a slip at Gulls, but would settle for rooks as I want him not to refuse the gulls, so they are my first choice.

Came to a SW facing hillside with the wind blowing straight at us, perfect! Peered over and saw a wonderful sight about 40 to 50 gulls just sitting there doing nothing, just what we wanted. Some rooks got up and left which was good.

I unhooded him and with my back facing the slope waited for him to rouse, fist up and raised it too. Off he went and was almost immediately buffed into a hedge by the Force 5 to 8 winds.

Worked straight into the wind towards the gulls I intended him to chase. Working around the gulls got up and he saw them to his right and downwind. He dipped down out of sight and all of a sudden he raked up and slammed into a brown gull, from below. BINGO!

We ran like mad things throught the mud and he was holding his own, he had it firmly by the head and was starting to dispatch it. I did it instead.
Opened the breast and he ate half the chest.

I weighted him and the gull and can now say we had a 2 lbs 3oz Herring Gull. :lol:

Fed him another gutted DOC, so he should be up for it tomorrow afternoon.

[Johnny]

well done paul
Johnny

[Darren]

would have liked to have seen it stoop on gulls

[Hawkmaster]

Unfortunately no stoop just a chase and took it from below. I wanted to do him as a game hawk, but this is too much FUN.

[Hawkmaster]

1 lbs 5 3/4 oz today and the wind was MEGA strong, about a Force 9.

We went off looking for seagulls as I want him to get well stuck into them and let him know he can kill them easily and not be put off and think crows are a better more manageable size.

I had my dad with me and he had just worked a 12 hour shift so, after only being able to find a downwind rook slip, I took it, and knew it was not going to be a good idea.

Hood off and he rocked towards them at a good speed. Not being able to get up over them, he had no advantage and off he went into the blue or grey as it was today. He did get close though before disappearing out of sight.

Tracked him a mile and a quarter away, but could not see him as the signal was all over and then my dad said UP THERE and this little man was at about 300 foot and coming down at speed, out with the lure and down he to a grass patch in front of the vets.

The next slip was at a very high point near the trig beacon. As we has a Southerly wind tearing straight at us on a down hill with 13 gulls in a field about 300 yards away I was wondering if he was going to take it on, because at this stage I want him to take easy ones on, BUT needs must!

Hood off, fist up and rock and roll, he carved his way low and fast towards them at speed. Popped over the hedge just 20 metres from them and as they took off he SMACKED an adult gull dead centre and made it bounce off the floor. He got carried away from it by the wind and dazed it started to fly towards him and he battled to get back to it and started to chase the other group. I whistled and swung the lure and he came directly to me. I called him to the lure in the fist as I did not want to risk him getting muddy or fighting him like an old like on the lure.

Brought him home and fed him a good size crop of beef with SA37.

[Hawkmaster]

Mixed stuff been happening with this boy and 630gr is his best weight.

Today we took him out at a half ounce heavier and slipped him on a Cock Pheasant, but he gave it a half hearted chase.

We left him and tracked him down after flying Phils bird and he was in the middle of town on an Adult Gull.

So not all bad then today.

[Kornie]

well done HM never experianced hunting with a falcon...:( sounds awesome

[Hawkmaster]

Not when he ******s off and you are tracking him all over the place! But at least he got another in the bag, in the middle of Newton Abbot, and nobody even saw him?

[Kornie]

lol. Good for the fitness. :)

[Hawkmaster]

I have increased his weight right up to 1lbs 8 and tried him there but he will not come back to me at this weight.

Yesterday I took him out at 1lbs 7 7/8oz he once again had no intention to return. Off he went and chased a pigeon into an old spire of a chapel that has been bricked up and now sit at the bottom waiting rescue.

I will wait for his weight to come down and get him if he does not come out?

[Hawkmaster]

Sunday morning there was still a good strong signal at the old spire so off we went hawking for the day.

On our way back there was no signal at all. Monday morning checked inside and he was gone.

Phil spoke to a chap that asked if he knew if anyone had lost a bird and he said yes me, so off we went to see if we could find him.

We found a very faint signal at a golf course towards Exeter, in fact we know now it was 7.26 miles away line of sight with the GPS. We found he on a house roof, but he was not interested, so I left him there and went to try this morning.

He had moved as someone else tried to get him. I found him after 20 minutes and he wanted to come to the lure, but overshot and cruised off into the distance.

After an hour I found him at a shopping centre perched above the main entrance. I went to a quiet part of the car park and threw out the lure, he was bobbing his head, I secured it to a rail and showed him a full DOC under him and this made him keener.

He flew off to the lure and as I tried to make in he attacked me in the legs and then flew up to the fist for the food. HE IS MAD and still just an angry young man, a real Vinny Jones Hooligan! lol

Anyway got him back and he weight a whopping 1 lbs 91/8oz, he feels sharp but well muscled on the pecs.

[Darren]

i dont know how you have any hair left because of worry.......i would sh*t myself letting him off & leaving him for a few days......ur a braver man than me.

[Hawkmaster]

Darren, I have considered selling him due to his bad behavior, but WHO would want a hooligan, even if he has real good potential to be a good hunter?

Just TRUST the XLF transmitter, that what I say. If you have two on the bird you have an EXCELLENT chance of recovery.

[Saker Mad]

he sounds like a great bird hawkmaster just like our male saker they are a chalenge but i dont know about you but i like them with a bit spirit :lol: :lol:

[Hawkmaster]

Yes but sometimes it get too much the swearing he does, fighting and bating too! lol

I am going to try him low now and see if we can get him to form a pleasant new habit of being nice?

[Hawkmaster]

Got my new camera from the insurance and here are the results.

[Hawkmaster]

Vinny was waiting on 3 days ago in some high winds , all of a sudden he stooped straight down and went behind a gropup of trees. I waited but he never came up again, so I tracked him to where I though he would be on a kill and found him sitting on a step of the scout hall looking very cute.

I called him to the fist and he ran over and tried to jump up but could not. I felt his wings and he seemed OK, no breaks or lumps, the rest of him seem fine too.

Fed him up and found yesterday that he did indeed now have a swelling on the one wing joint. It is just a knock, but the best is too feed him up and call it a season with him.

I has now become better mannered, NO THAT IS NOT FAIR! He is now lovable and well behaved and full of talkitive character.

His pretty little face will most certainly bring him to get him waiting on next season as he has shown courage, heart and tons of personality!

He only got 5 kills this season of which we got adult and juvenile Gulls, Rook and a pigeon. His best had to be taking down a 2lbs 4oz Gull.He still thinks he can eat the old Gos too.

[Saker Mad]

cracking looking bird you have there paul its a shame you have called it a day with him im looking forward to next seasons saga of vinny the hooligan (aka lovely bird )vbg

[Hawkmaster]

Cheers Mate I will also add a video of him to the Vids page later.

[Saker Mad]

nice one look forward to it

[Shaun Byrne]

Nice looking bird Paul, have you had him to the vet? What do you think caused the injury?

[Hawkmaster]

Yip just inflamed apparently, some kind of knock.

[BFC 007]

hows the wing HM,u want a deal then :?:

[Hawkmaster]

Just checked him out today by going in the mews and YES he seems fine. Bit the hell out of me so I think he is back to being Vinny!

Adeal sound fine to me, how do you want to do it?

[Falconry Equipment International]

. Simply used Helsinger jesses and a hood.

Hi Hawkmaster just picked up on this . Can you tell me please what are Helsinger jesses ?
J

[Hawkmaster]

Just a mews jess that has a slit and hole near the knot and that goes around the leg and it can easily be put on or off at flying time. Not for tethering outside though.

[Falconry Equipment International]

Oh Ok I see, presumably an aylmeri mews jess ?

[Falconry Equipment International]

sorry , meant to ask what is the history around this? do you know why it was so named( presumably after the guy that thought it up?

[Hawkmaster]

No idea, I have always just heard that is what it was called, since I was a kid in RSA.

[Falconry Equipment International]

Thanks anyway, although I have not heard of or seen this system before.
J

[BFC 007]

i live in milton keynes HM so i suppose we could meet half way?

[Hawkmaster]

I am going to Tamworth on the 5th?

[BFC 007]

cool, let me know a meeting point which is suitable for you,are you coming up the m5? if so i can meet you where it joins m40

[Hawkmaster]

Yip up the M5, I will check my map.

[BFC 007]

im self employed so any time of the day suits me matey

[BFC 007]

this is the harris HM-SHAWNY-flys at 2.3

[Hawkmaster]

Cool what ages is she?

[BFC 007]

may 02 bird,so thats 3 in may lol

[Hawkmaster]

Have you entered her on game?

[BFC 007]

yes mate,pheasants also had moorhens,few rabbits & loves squirrels but i try to avoid them
will VINNY be able to hunt again when i recieve him? bring his weight down & get him back out there can i ?

[Hawkmaster]

I most certainly hope so, he is flying around his mews ok. I can always try him on the creance if you like first?

Do remember though is is a little b a s t a r d until at a good weight.

I think he will be good on partridge, and even has the heart to take on pheasants.

[BFC 007]

try him on creance if you can mate just to make sure he's in A1 condition
he's going to be joining my team of pursuit falcons for rooks,gulls etc & anything else he decides he wants to go at :lol:
what you going to be doing with the harris?

[Hawkmaster]

Ok I will do. I think I will let a friend fly him and then we will try them for breeding later.

[BFC 007]

as long as she's looked after :wink: she is my first bird but im now into falcons & it would be a shame for her to be second best

[BFC 007]

He is meant to be 100% imprint, but will talk to the bloke I got him off too.
did you find out what he is HM mate?

[Hawkmaster]

Yes he is 100% imprint. But you would not say so.

[BFC 007]

have you tried vinny on creance yet HM?

[Hawkmaster]

This sure brings back memories!

Thought I would read it because I am flying another Gyr/Prairie after promising Vinny was the last.

ONE STORY that is not on the forum is Vinny bowled over a Hare in Scotland so hard the dogs caught and it was over seven and a half pounds!:supz: