EXPERT ON !!!

[Gaz]

Got a new member on here,Sparstheone,his names Jason and wot he dont know about spars & gosses aint worth knowing,...get him talking!!!! :!: :!:

[Kornie]

wow, thats a subject I know absolutley nothing about Id love to hear from him

[Hawkmaster]

Does he live near you Gaz?

[Sparrow Hawker]

That's great i'm really interested in Accipiters, I looking forward to his posts.

All The Best,

HH

[Gaz]

Yes he does HM,top kiddy....and his land............make you think youve died and gone to heaven....cmon jase...dont be shy :!:

[SparsTheOne]

thanks 4 BIGGING ME UP GAZ!!! but theres alot i dont know too.

jase.

[Gaz]

:mrgreen:

[North East Harris Hawker]

thanks 4 BIGGING ME UP GAZ!!! but theres alot i dont know too.

jase.
a nice modest start! im sure there will be plenty of questions!

[SparsTheOne]

cheers jase.

[Jack Merlin]

Hi Jase!

A couple of quick ones for you.

I have a duck pond which is just a bit too large. I've had several flights at ducks with my male gos (1lb 11oz) but instead of going to a tree, he tries to catch them on the water and gets a soaking! Do they ever learn? He's done that four times so far. If he would take stand, I might be able to flush some over land for him.

Second, he calls at weather when he is hungry although he is "parent reared". (Hand reared to 10 days, then raised by an imprint). Is there any cure? (He's silent out hunting).

Thanks,

Jack

[SparsTheOne]

the only thing i can say to you about the pond m8 is to wait untill they flush and slip him from the fist,sneak up to the pond and spook the duck if possible,this will produce a explosive flight and if this type of flight can be enginered on a daily bases your gos will be become very fit very quick.

having a gos that calls all the time is not very nice,but you can try keeping the bird at a friends house for a few weeks and go and get it every day to hunt him.this has worked for me in the past,some times it can be a lack of game to hunt that is the problem,i have know idea what quarry you have to hunt,but if you dont have much game to hunt then try hunting corvids,there are alway an abundants of this type of quarry,if these dont work m8 you will just have to put with the screaming untill you fly each day,(sorry if that ends up being the case)the worst thing i,ve heard of is that a female gos had its voice box taken out,and she still screamed with it out but there was no noise.

i hope that helps abit jack.

cheers jase.

[Jack Merlin]

Thanks Jase, that sounds like good advice. When the duck come back next season, I am determined to catch one!

This gos gets plenty of flying at pheasants and killed two cocks last week. He hit three more but did not manage to bind. He gets hunted every day when the weather is good as I am semi-retired and have my ground (800 acres of young forestry) on my doorstep.

Fortunately, I do not have any close neighbours so the calling is not really a problem. I can just turn the radio on!<g> Someone suggested getting him a girl friend, so I'm looking into that.

Thanks again.

Jack

[Hawkmaster]

Derry my female was the same scream day and night. I used a giant hood and boxed her her 6 weeks only taking her out for flying and if the weather was bad I fed her so she could not see me.

Make sure to use a Tail Sheath and stick it out. Has worked wonders for me. She still screams at home but not in the field any more. I also fed her in the back of my estate and that helped to disassociate the feeding off the fist and at home.

HTH? 8) Paul

[SparsTheOne]

thats gd advice to i never thought of that(very red faced jase lol)


jase.

[Jack Merlin]

Derry my female was the same scream day and night. I used a giant hood and boxed her her 6 weeks only taking her out for flying and if the weather was bad I fed her so she could not see me.

That's sounds like it is worth a try. He only calls at weather, and then only when hungry so maybe there is hope. Was your bird an imprint?

My season is virtually over now so I will feed up and move him to an aviary as soon as I have time to build one. Hopefully, I will be getting a female sometime in the future and we will see if sex can focus his ideas in another direction!<g>

Derry

[Hawkmaster]

Yes Derry, she is an imprint, but unfortunately not a very good one as she is pretified of tons of things, but I am getting there and she is afterall still a Gos and therefore I just love her.

She is already being fed up now so I can see if I can get her to accept semen this year, as last year she just wanted to kill me all the time.

[Jack Merlin]

Hi Hawkmaster,

I just had a discussion about this nervousness that imprint goshawks seem to be prone to with an American friend who has considerable experience. He reckons they can be brought round with lots of TLC.

I must say I find the accipiters fascinating as they do not follow the rules of responding simply to weight loss! It is more complicated than that. A bit like dogs, actually!

Derry

[Hawkmaster]

True she will fly just as well at 2 lbs 3 oz as at 2 lbs 5 oz manning and TLC are a problem at home as this encourages her to be vocal, but killing often and mainning on the fist in the field and in the car are seeming to do the job.

[Jack Merlin]

True she will fly just as well at 2 lbs 3 oz as at 2 lbs 5 oz manning and TLC are a problem at home as this encourages her to be vocal, but killing often and mainning on the fist in the field and in the car are seeming to do the job.

Ah, I see the problem. Cure the nervousness and you have a worse problem with the screaming, and vice versa. I think that is what is called being caught in a cleft stick!

Jack

[Peregrynne]

Ok Jase, I knew that you had good info on RT's, but didn't know that you were a wealth of knowledge on gos as well. Will have to pick your brain on the other birds you have flown now. :wink:

Catch up with you soon.