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Hawkmaster
10-10-2004, 02:56 PM
Simply resize it for the bird it is intended to fit by measuring behind the eyes and transferring that figure to the pattern.




David & Carol Newby
25-10-2004, 02:50 PM
Hey HM I will make one up and tell you what I think :) Thanks, Carol

Wightwings
25-10-2004, 05:03 PM
nice on HM wil have a go at that one.

Hawkmaster
26-10-2004, 10:39 AM
It is just the resizing that take a bit of time, until you get the 'Behind the Eye' measurement correct.

Lloydparabuteo
04-12-2004, 03:56 PM
how do you get the size of the rest of the design once you have the size of behind the eyes?

Hawkmaster
04-12-2004, 04:58 PM
Measure behind the eyes, lets say for my Female Gyr/Saker it is 43mm, now print the picture so that measurement is 43 mm and the rest will resize too as you adjust it or photocopy until correct.

HTH?

Matt
04-12-2004, 06:39 PM
thanx h-m it makes sence now i must admit i couldnt work it out eather lol

Blondi
20-12-2004, 07:55 PM
any more patterns guys, my missus reckons she's cracked it..
she is always riight lol

Hawkmaster
21-12-2004, 07:03 PM
I will do some more soon. Funny how people do not want to share patterns with others?

Sean
23-03-2005, 10:17 PM
what are the advantages of the arab hood, compared to teh dutch?

IAmTheWeasel
24-03-2005, 09:20 PM
Feathers don't get pinched in the back where the braces are. The Arab design closes in the normally open area at the back to avoid feathers from getting piched.

Sean
24-03-2005, 09:35 PM
thanks :)

Grovsey
24-04-2007, 11:48 AM
Simply resize it for the bird it is intended to fit by measuring behind the eyes and transferring that figure to the pattern.

what software do you use to resiZe m8

Tim Laycock
24-04-2007, 12:02 PM
Save the picture and insert it into a word document.
You can resize it there by clicking on the corner of the image and dragging it.

Hawkmaster
24-04-2007, 12:27 PM
Good tip there Tim;-)

sacre
07-08-2007, 09:31 AM
Hi guys, can somebody send me some pictures from a finished arab hood(from this pattern)
Thank you in advance!!!;-)

rktaylor56
30-08-2007, 06:30 AM
I have a similar pattern I obtained from a NAFA "Hawk Chalk" published a few years back. I followed the authors instructions on the Canon and rendered it with a CAD program. I can enlarge or reduce its size or change the design by using the CAD program, which is quite handy. There is a major difference in the way the head measurement is used, however, between the pattern on this post and my old pattern. I'll not confuse the issue by commenting on that. The purpose of my post is to contribute a little to the understanding of the finishing of the hood presented in the "Hawk Chalk" article, as it may be pertinent to the pattern presented here.

Comments:
1. The number of slits on the back of the hood can and should be changed with the size of the bird. Larger raptors should have 12 slits, as shown. 10 slits should be used for smaller raptors. To clarify, I have successfully used 10 slits on a male Harris Hawk, male Peregrine, and female Black Merlin X Black Gyr.
2. After sewing or glueing the hood, attach braces, and wet the hood. Close the braces and form, (with fingers and thumb), the part of the hood containing the braces 90 degrees backward from the back of the closed hood so that the braces lie as flat on the table as can be, rather than on edge. The part of the hood that contains the braces is not intended to be used as part of the birds head volume, but should be outside of it. The braces draw horizontally rather than vertically.
3. The addition of an extra 1/4 to 3/8 inch of leather on the lower edge of the pattern, (around the neck), will allow the hood maker to roll this extra leather under and glue or sew a neat internal neck collar which serves to strengthen the final hood against crushing.

I hope this helps.

Jack
31-08-2007, 03:23 AM
When clicking and dragging the corner to enlarge or shrink be very careful. You can pull it up or down as you pull at the 45 degree angle and this will change the configuration of the pattern.

Jack

rktaylor56
31-08-2007, 05:51 AM
Thank you very much for your insight. However, I don't use this technique. Instead, I modify the scale of the image by the percentage I wish. The model Canon I use was developed at X=(%) of head width behind the eye. I set in at 10 cm. If the actual dimension is somewhat greater or less, I scale it, before printing. As an example: If the actual dimension of the distance behind the eye is 4 cm, I scale the model view to 0.4X%, which is shown and printable in the paper space, ( or, for that matter, in the model space.)

Thanks, again.

Tim Laycock
02-09-2007, 03:01 AM
When clicking and dragging the corner to enlarge or shrink be very careful. You can pull it up or down as you pull at the 45 degree angle and this will change the configuration of the pattern.

Jack

Entirely dependent on how old your version of MSword is :yawinkle:

Valid point for older versions.
On latter versions if you click the corner the image can only be enlarged proportionatley.
To achieve the distortion you describe you would have to click on the side of the image not the corner.

Bounty
02-09-2007, 08:44 PM
When clicking and dragging the corner to enlarge or shrink be very careful. You can pull it up or down as you pull at the 45 degree angle and this will change the configuration of the pattern.

Jack

Hello,

try holding shift while dragging the corner, and if i'm not mistaking you don't even need to drag the corner, any side will do 8-) .

Kurt

Jack
03-09-2007, 03:42 AM
I will try using the shift button. Thanks. I do not have any version of MSWord. I had it, but when I bought a new puter with the XP it would not load. I can afford what they are wanting for the latest version of Word.

Jack

rktaylor56
03-09-2007, 04:33 AM
Jack,
If you have XP, you probably have Windows Picture and Fax Viewer installed with the XP. You can scale and print from this Program that installs with XP. Here's how:

1. First you must view the picture of the pattern in this thread
2. Then, you must save the picture as: (I suggest xxx.jpg) at a location you can easily get back to. ( I suggest Desktop or My Pictures).
3. Then open the saved picture in a new Window.
4. Right click on the picture to give you options.
5. One option will say Open Picture With.
6. Choose Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.
7. Once opened, choose Print.
8. Measure the size of the X measurement on your print.
9. Calculate the amount or percent smaller or larger you want your hood Pattern.
10. Choose Print, Scale, and enter the percentage.

Good luck.

BlackShaheen10
25-09-2007, 06:26 PM
I printed a 50mm pattern (saker size) and obtain an eagle size hood!!!

It seems that this pattern has good fit for smaller species not for biggest...

rktaylor56
25-09-2007, 09:59 PM
Outlandishly large hood? May I point out:

1. A similar hood pattern which I use comes with drawing instructions.

2. The drawing instructions for my similar hood pattern requires the reduction of the measurement accross the head by a percentage. ( In the case of my similar hood pattern, the percentage is 66.7% x Head Width= "X", where "X" is the fundamental measurement used in drawing the lines, centers, radii, and arcs which make up the pattern.)

3. The result is: In order to fit a 50mm head width, my similar pattern is required to be reduced to 66.7% x 50mm = 33.5mm.

4. Since I do not know the instructions of how to draw the pattern which is the subject of this thread, I cannot verify what percentage reduction is required. But I can say, based on your Eagle sized hood at 50mm printing size, that some percentage reduction is required.

5. I have flown Sakers before and have recently completed a glued 48mm Falcon Hood, which would fit your bird snuggly, (picture attached). It was photographed on a 2"x2" background grid to give you a sense of scale.