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Ian Wileman
13-10-2004, 03:51 PM
Well, anyone reading the Viz or other like minded magazines such as Womens own (Falcon perhaps) will have come across TOP TIPS, were people write in and give.....ye....you guessed it, their top tips for around the home. Well, what about top tips around our sport...........

I will start the ball rolling with gutting DOC's.

I buy a packet of 80 small freezer bags from ASDA or the like (a few pence), which I then use one of to put the daily ration for the bird I am flying each day.

The next day, having used this bag once, it is now (as far as I am concerned), no longer clean, and cannot be used for food again. I use this bag to quickly and cleanly gut any docs I am using in the feed, therefore recycling the bag.

I take the Doc and hold it with both hands pinching around the anus (dont, I have heard all the best ones so you are waisting your time). I then pull with both hands (or pinched fingers) in opposite direction. You find the skin parts very easily. This reveals the yolk sack. I bend the chicks legs backwards which pushes the yolk proud of the rest of the DOC and then place the chick inside yesterdays bag. I then, from the outside of the bag, grab hold of the yolk and both pull and squeeze the yolk away from the rest of the DOC. Hey presto! No mess, no yolk on floor. All the yolk is inside the bag. I repeat this with the other DOCs for the day then tie up the bag and pop it in the wheelie bin. This means whatever bag you use to carry your falconry essentials in STAYS CLEAN, and your birds have food that has been carried in a new plastic bag every time you go out.

Well, there you go, my top tip for now.....If I think of any others, I will post.......whats yours?




Falcon
13-10-2004, 04:12 PM
Good topic Ian, for the record I don't read magazines like womans own, I read falconry magazines and sporting shooter, shotting gazette need I say anymore!!
One tip I've picked up is to keep spare or new hawing bells in an old camera film tube! stops them being damaged! If I think of any others i will post them here!

Shaun Byrne
13-10-2004, 04:36 PM
How about keeping moulted feathers in an old whiskey presentation tube, the good bits drinking the original contents!!

Kornie
13-10-2004, 08:12 PM
You probs wont like this but I dont care. I got sick of gut bags smells, flies etc
So I gut my chicks down the toilet and flush away. I probably wouldn't advise this if you gut 100 a day though. No gut bags and no mess.

Johnny
13-10-2004, 08:28 PM
I gut me chicks etc ,on news paper and put it in the bin ,does any one else do this ?

Gaz
13-10-2004, 08:46 PM
FEEDE IT TO THE FERRETS!!



TOP TIP
Never eat yellow snow,
Never stand up in a canoe,
and NEVER,EVER tell a woman you love her to get your "oats",they really think you mean it!! :mrgreen:

Falcon
14-10-2004, 07:41 AM
hahahaha!
gutting doc,s I wrap it up in newspaper and burn it in the rayburn!

Hawkmaster
14-10-2004, 12:23 PM
Here is my way to gut them and the yolks are either popped in the bag and in the bin or fed to the bird as a taster:
http://www.eclipse.co.uk/pczone/GuttingDOCs.AVI

Ian Wileman
14-10-2004, 12:30 PM
Tried looking at that H. Takes too long to download....happy with my own method.

Kornie
14-10-2004, 03:31 PM
Hawkmaster, I took the time to download it. I like the method, its very good in the way of popping the yolk sacs. But to be honest I just snip it out with scissors. Much cleaner on the hands and about 100 times faster.

Hawkmaster
14-10-2004, 03:36 PM
Mmm, But no mess of the yolk at all, it simply comes out whole and just to test it I just did 4 in about 15 seconds with no yolk mess anywhere?

Kornie
14-10-2004, 03:48 PM
I bet I could beat you in a race :wink: Hawkmaster.

North East Harris Hawker
14-10-2004, 06:01 PM
heres a top tip, get your mrs to do the gutting and then she cleans up all the mess whilst you sup beer!

Shaun Byrne
14-10-2004, 08:14 PM
yeh, and then when the black eye goes down you can go back to doing it yourself lol!!

Sean
14-10-2004, 10:08 PM
and then wake up and have your cornflakes :D

Sean
19-10-2004, 09:54 PM
when attacthing a padlock, dont screw or nail it in, use bolts and then get a lend of a a solder iron and smelt some solder around the nuts this will secure the lock more, it wont stop the theives but will belay them

Parahawker
19-10-2004, 11:54 PM
Tips

If you havent got a tail guard when hawking and have a tail bell on your bird.
When on a kill & the bird is sitting on its tail.
Take an elastic band group the tail together & loop the band over the bell
When the tail is together its less open to damage.

when manning a bird on the fist have a glass of water down the side of the couch.. if the bird takes ages to feed the food wil dry & stick to the birds inside beak, dip your hand in the water & keep the food damp..

secure your bird as it feeds on a kill.
just as the birds croped up a dog will apear from nowhere & scare your bird up a tree with a full crop.. seen it done!

dont store telemetry battries in a container touching each other.. they discharge

on windy days take tiring with you in the form of a pigeon wing..
Stops the bating when walking back to the car.

Shaun Byrne
20-10-2004, 09:24 AM
If you fit a hasp and staple with screws, drill the slots out once secure, cheaper than security screws!

Kornie
20-10-2004, 11:22 AM
Like the pigeon wing trick. worth remembering.

Wightwings
20-10-2004, 01:26 PM
like that H4wka, th simple ideas are always the best :mrgreen:

Ian Wileman
20-10-2004, 03:40 PM
Top Tip...dont take any notice of that daft advert about becoming a school teacher! lol

Darren
20-10-2004, 05:30 PM
dont get caught poking your misses best mate

North East Harris Hawker
20-10-2004, 06:53 PM
allways test your telemetry out before the start of the season

Saker-Clive
20-10-2004, 06:58 PM
I check it every time I go out; and today after fitting Kier with the tranny, put him in the box, got out the receiver and nothing. Took off the tranny, checked the bateies were the right way round but noticed the arial wasn't screwed up tightly. After tightening it up...........beep...beep....beep :D

Kornie
20-10-2004, 09:51 PM
you'd never loose at hide and seek if you had one of these.

North East Harris Hawker
20-10-2004, 11:36 PM
i tested mine today and it was a good job i did, my bird went off after a pheasant and the cover was far too thick to see through, out it came and the bird was located within 2 mins :D

Hawkmaster
21-10-2004, 12:50 PM
Use a small volt meter to test batteries, I did mine today and one was only .04 volt instead of 1.5v, just goes to show?

North East Harris Hawker
21-10-2004, 12:55 PM
a minute it takes to check em out HM, i just wonder how many people are gonna lose birds early in the season with transmitters fitted with duff batteries, cos they were too tight/lazy to check/change them?

SSL
09-02-2005, 11:10 PM
a minute it takes to check em out HM, i just wonder how many people are gonna lose birds early in the season with transmitters fitted with duff batteries, cos they were too tight/lazy to check/change them?

Alot mate, I have a friend whose a ****** for it. Almost lost his bird but the tx had packed up too, still ought to have checked it though.

Might be worth buying a second tx, how many of you having travelled a good way to hawk and finding theres no signal would still hawk?

As for the DOCs, my method for gutting is simple. Dont! Scientific research rather than Falconer myth shows that gutting them takes away the best bits. Only Merlins need them gutting as they are prone to a fatty Kidney syndrome.

Steve.

Bill
09-02-2005, 11:33 PM
Cheap plastic bags. Wilkinsons 12p for a pack of 50.

Varmint
10-02-2005, 06:34 AM
1a

10-02-2005, 06:48 AM
shove yer finger up its butt and tair it from but to rib cage ! that advise was free .................

Varmint
10-02-2005, 06:51 AM
1a

Bubo
10-02-2005, 07:10 AM
get your hawks to do it hehehehe hands will definately stay clean!!! but i am curious to know how you do it.
bubo

10-02-2005, 07:17 AM
cmon then varmit enlighten us ..............

Bubo
10-02-2005, 07:18 AM
if you squeezed them would the guts just come out the bum end?

10-02-2005, 07:20 AM
broad staitment :roll:

I bet i could gut 5 rabbits in the time it takes you to do that?[/quote]

Bubo
10-02-2005, 07:25 AM
oooh the suspense is killing me, varming would you be so kind as to hurrying up a little hehhe
bubo

Varmint
10-02-2005, 07:28 AM
:arrow:

Varmint
10-02-2005, 07:29 AM
:arrow:

Bubo
10-02-2005, 07:30 AM
does that mean you are not going to tell us???? you are conciously going to leave me spending the whole day trying to work out how you do it :shock: :cry: right jester hurry up and get on line mate I NEED TO KNOW !!!

bubo :P

10-02-2005, 07:34 AM
why would a native american want to skin a rabbit 5 times faster than me ;) i just cant see the need !:) .........

Varmint
10-02-2005, 07:35 AM
:!:

Bod
10-02-2005, 07:45 AM
You have to see it to believe it.
I'll have a quid on Adrian to gut 5 the American Indian way against one gutted the conventional way. :wink:
By the way Adrian I owe you a quid. My kids thinks its awsome

Bod
10-02-2005, 07:46 AM
Forgot to add.
And your hands don't stink as well.
Figure that one out folks

Bubo
10-02-2005, 07:49 AM
am i at all close?

Varmint
10-02-2005, 08:05 AM
:arrow:

Bubo
10-02-2005, 08:23 AM
oooooh http://yelims.free.fr/Grrrrrrrrrrrr/Grrrr33.gif http://yelims.free.fr/Grrrrrrrrrrrr/Grrrr41.gif http://yelims.free.fr/Grrrrrrrrrrrr/Grrrr28.gif great well i hope you count on having another scotty meet next year!!! http://yelims4.free.fr/MDR/MDR32.gif

Gaz
10-02-2005, 10:03 AM
that was taught to me by a native american whilst i was hawking in Arizona
:mrgreen: Taught to me by a old somerset poacher :!: (or was it Kev Riach :?: ) :mrgreen:

Jester
10-02-2005, 11:59 AM
quality gutting method Varmint :D


now all i need to do is get hold of a bunny and see if i can manage it. :roll:

would love to explain Bubo but i really cant describe in words (im not even sure i have the knack to do it :oops: )

Bubo
10-02-2005, 12:07 PM
all i can imagine is squeezing with a pulling down motion like using an icing bag!!

Bod
10-02-2005, 12:55 PM
Give it a try and let us know what happens Bubo :shock:

Ian Wileman
10-02-2005, 06:09 PM
I cannot believe that someone who is capable of writing and SELLING a book on the sport, is incapable of describing how to gut a rabbit, WHATEVER technique they use. I simply take a pair of scissors, lift up the belly skin, snip a finger size whole in the skin, pop a finger in the whole, and then tear the skin from butt to rib cage. Then I lift the rabbit by the head and shake the insides into a carrier bag. takes a few seconds is all. Oh yes....And as for the smell......I dont smell from it either, I wear dispossible latex gloves when I gut and skin. Any one having problems with the b above description....p.m. and I will give you step by step the technique....If it is sooooooooo difficult to describe, perhaps I may even be able to give step by step photographs alongside......Jeeees, maybe I should write a book to eh Varmint! lol

Varmint
10-02-2005, 06:59 PM
:arrow:

Shaun Byrne
10-02-2005, 07:04 PM
Does it remove the stomach as well?? The stomach is under the ribs with the liver.

Varmint
10-02-2005, 07:07 PM
:arrow:

Sprout
10-02-2005, 09:14 PM
Guess Ian needs to keep his teeth in incase he loses his scissors!! :wink:

Gaz
10-02-2005, 09:22 PM
Oh and for your info Gaz!!**&%$
COME ON THE BRISTOL :supz:

Bubo
10-02-2005, 09:34 PM
cheers varmint, i knew if i kept guessing you'd get bored with me and give up hehehehehehe i wasnt far off tho!!
bubo

Ian Wileman
10-02-2005, 10:00 PM
[quote="Varmint"]You got VHD Ian?

Or cant you take a bit of fun, stringing things out you miserable sod. :evil:

I didnt want to do this cause its a lot of writeing and when i posted it this morning i didnt have time.....

You takes your bunny, by the head, allowing gravity to settle the guts into the lower end of the abdamon, you then put your full hand around the base of the rib cage and back, fully gripping the whole rabbit, you squeeze with your other hand on the lower part that is under pressure, and you will feel the gut rip and suddenly almost pop.

Slide the tight hand down the bunny until the gut is once again under great pressure and repeat the process.

The whole lot flies outta its **** , and your on your way!quote]

This is a lot of writing Varmint? dear oh dear.....you must have writers block mate 8) :wink:

Oh yes......thanks for that piece of info :twisted: .....I may even try it if I do lose my scissors.... :roll: .....but I think that unlikely young Jedi.... 8)

Bubo
10-02-2005, 11:13 PM
well just for your info, i'm trying it on saturday! father in law is gonna put some bunnies in the cook pot so i'm gonna have a go!! kadabs gets all the good bits hehehe
i'll let you know how it goes
pop splat vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarmint hehehehe icing the cakes will never be the same hehehehe

ChicM
11-02-2005, 01:55 AM
It works Ian...it works...even an eejit like me can do it.

Mind you Bubo...I tried to skin the wee thing after and the meat wasn't smelling too bright. Maybe the technique is better for animal feed ... or maybe I just got it wrong.

Dare say Varmint will correct me... :lol:

11-02-2005, 05:44 AM
what happens if you have small hands :) and what sorta stance do you have to take to stop the gut exploding over yer legs or boots ! and ime sure you would en up with fur everywhare ! not to good if you have asma ;) and then theres the point that you will have to open them up to skin them so yer hands will still get a wee bit honking ! and what happens if yer a bit like me and like to see the guts to make sure theres no abnormalitys cos ime sur sqirting the guts out of the rabbits hole would burst eny cists or eny bags of puss n stuff that shouldnt be there :) ime not picking on this method ime just a wee bit unsure of it !! hey maybe i could invent some kinda mangle to do the same job..............

Bubo
11-02-2005, 06:11 AM
i'll leave the gutting to me father in law then hehehehehe!

Moritz
11-02-2005, 10:06 AM
Hi guys,
the methode vermint discripte may work fast but is not good at all, All the bacteria from the gut stay inside the rabbit and that is not good at all. Since some time this and other methods like that are not used in germany. I tried Adrians methode today and it worked well, but I hade to give the rabbit a good wash from the inside with water.

We used to do something even simpler:
Take the rabbit at its ears and front legs and swing it around so that the guts get thrown out. Fast and clean for you, but you can only do it outside in the field and it is not healthy at all.

Moritz

Bubo
11-02-2005, 10:12 AM
eeeeeew

Shaun Byrne
11-02-2005, 11:09 AM
Why not just use Adrians method, then skin it and cook it, ready made stuffing!!!! lmao!!

Shaun Byrne
11-02-2005, 11:12 AM
Just on the subject of rabbit gut contents; does anyone else think coleslaw smells exactly the same? Ever since my mate asked me I haven't been able to touch the stuff!!

ChicM
11-02-2005, 11:21 AM
I really wish you hadn't shared that info H4wka...

Shaun Byrne
11-02-2005, 11:25 AM
It happened to me so I thought I'd share it lol!! I used to love cheese and coleslaw sarnies, not any more, one whiff and all I can think of is green toothpaste!!! pmsl!!

Go smell some you'll see what I mean!

ChicM
11-02-2005, 11:43 AM
Green toothpaste...yet another image I can do without!

Sprout
11-02-2005, 05:59 PM
If done properly by Adrians method the rabbit just prolapses so the guts don't rupture at all (which is so easily done when using sharp implements), you just end up with a nice, neat package and no mess, Admittedly it is difficult on old, buck rabbits

ChicM
11-02-2005, 06:15 PM
Yeah - like I said Sprout, I'm probably not getting it right yet. Impressive when you see it done though and beats the knife and scissors approach for speed in the field for sure!

IAmTheWeasel
11-02-2005, 06:45 PM
Well, I use the same method for squirrels as I do Rabbits. I take their two front legs and bend them behind the head so that I can get ahold of both feet at once. This stretches the skin tight on the chest cavity. I am at this point holing the animal in a vertical position. I then take a razor knife and split it fron neck to nuts. Then all that is needed is to work from the top down with the razor knife cutting the sinew that attaches the guts to the ribs. It then all falls out from gravity...Whalla!.....a gutted squirrel/ rabbit. All my game is cleaned at home on a cutting board so at this point I quater the squirrel too. I use a butchers knife and a 3lbs dead blow hammer. I cut off the head, cut the body in half across the body and then down the spine......Nice set for two baggies in the freezer....Best of all, I don't get a drop of blood on me.......

ChicM
11-02-2005, 08:11 PM
What - no Texas Chainsaw Massacree... :D

IAmTheWeasel
11-02-2005, 08:29 PM
I would but the fumes fog up the kitchen too much..... :rolleyes:

ChicM
11-02-2005, 08:36 PM
Electric saw any use???

IAmTheWeasel
11-02-2005, 08:45 PM
Ah-ha!!!! I think you may be onto something there....Hmmmmm..?.....I do have an electric turkey carver.....I also have a nice saws-all that can cut anything.....Might get messy though?.... :axe:

ChicM
11-02-2005, 10:28 PM
See - knew you'd figure it out Weasel. What is it you Americans say..."The Brits have nothing to teach us about falconry but tradition." :D

Gaz
12-02-2005, 09:53 AM
..."The Brits have nothing to teach us about falconry but tradition."
HMmmm.....Well.. :?: :mrgreen: :roll:

ChicM
12-02-2005, 09:59 AM
Didn't say I agreed with it Gaz...just paraphrasing. :D

Gaz
12-02-2005, 01:11 PM
:mrgreen:

Parahawker
12-02-2005, 01:24 PM
I dropped a few bunnies off to my local butcher at xmas for him to cook up.
He went to gut the bunnie only to find it empty with no holes..

he was a little miffed as to how.. lol

PS, whats the largest bunnie weight wise anyone has caught minus the guts?

ChicM
12-02-2005, 01:27 PM
13 and a half stone...went by the name of Harvey. Guy with it had a stutter and was a bit upset that we could see it...

UKJay74
19-02-2005, 09:41 AM
well i have to say i was witness to varmints method of gutting rabbits and i have to say it is amazingly quick and not a thing left inside to contaminate anything truly top tip adrian mate

Varmint
19-02-2005, 05:29 PM
Thanks Jay, it does work.

Ok at the risk of bringing on another tyrade of abuse, one more for you.

If you are flying off the fist in truly open ground, especially on windy days, leave your mews jess on.

Draw the jess half way out of the eyelet, place the button thru the slit at the other end, then pull it up onto the eyelet.

This leaves you with a slit less jess with a button on the end which when locked into your knuckles will make it impossible to let the bird slip unless you want to.

I have also tried this system in woodland without a prob, but wouldnt reccomend it just in case? :wink:

Bubo
19-02-2005, 06:57 PM
it took me a while to work that out (even to the extent of trying it out on my fingers) but i got it hehehehe good one.
bubo

Shaun Byrne
19-02-2005, 07:07 PM
Tried the varmint knifeless gutting technique today on a nice fresh buck rabbit. I squeezed, and squeezed, had a rest, squeezed a bit more then gave up due to all the p1ss taking I was recieving lol!! Out came the knife and I admitted defeat.

Varmint
19-02-2005, 07:14 PM
A lot of it is technique Shaun,

Ill show ya one day mate! :wink:

Bubo
19-02-2005, 08:35 PM
if at first you dont succeed!!!! come on hawka you can do it mate!!
bubs

Shaun Byrne
19-02-2005, 08:44 PM
I tell you what, I've got a decent grip but I nearly turned purple, I even lost my rag with all the laughing and tried my boot on it, I'm not giving up!!

ChicM
20-02-2005, 12:06 AM
You gotta shake all the gut down the torso first before the squeezing starts as I understand it. Then after the first squeeze, give it another shake down before the final one to prolapse it all out. I've only done it twice so what do I know...but it worked that way for me without going purple!

One other tip Shaun...do it in private first!

Varmint
20-02-2005, 08:39 AM
And dont turn your back on people when you do it Shaun cause you'll look like your doing strange things to the bunny! :twisted: :yawinkle:

Shaun Byrne
20-02-2005, 09:17 AM
Thats the main one, do it in private. I must say I wasn't the only one to try so I had chance to take the p1ss as well. Just need a few dozen fresh rabbits to practise on now!

ChicM
20-02-2005, 10:52 AM
:D

Shaun Byrne
20-02-2005, 11:01 AM
And dont turn your back on people when you do it Shaun cause you'll look like your doing strange things to the bunny! :twisted: :yawinkle:

No worries, I only do that in the privacy of my own home :twisted:

You know how it is Adrian :D

Varmint
20-02-2005, 11:06 AM
:yawinkle:

ColdZero
21-02-2005, 03:13 PM
did varmint post pics because for some reason i can't see them :(

i have only gutted about a dozen rabbits, all i do is cut from the chest down, then hold the front and back legs and swing it down like an axe. Your hands stay perfectly clean and it takes about 3 seconds a rabbit, everything comes out too except lungs and heart.

i wouldn't try that mews jess thing myself varmint, sounds a bit risky especially when harris' always seem to find the worst, thinnest branches to fall into.

UKJay74
21-02-2005, 03:30 PM
nah cold adrian didnt post pics of it its was a description of how to do it ..

Adrian i put it into practice today and spot on nothing whatso ever inside, Had the same problem as h4wka at first then pop out it all came :D cheers for that quick and handy tip :D

Varmint
21-02-2005, 06:18 PM
Great Jay, glad you got the knack!

i wouldn't try that mews jess thing myself varmint, sounds a bit risky especially when harris' always seem to find the worst, thinnest branches to fall into.

Th ethinnest branches arent the problem, forks are but i did say that i would only recomend it flying off the fist in really open ground? i have only tried a couple of thousand times in woodland without a prob, but as i said, i wouldnt recomend it to others in woodland for that exact reason cold :yawinkle:

Bill
22-02-2005, 11:10 AM
shove yer finger up its butt and tair it from but to rib cage ! that advise was free .................

Would have to be free, nobody would pay for it.

Bubo
24-02-2005, 12:38 PM
Hawka i wished i never giggled behind my screen reading about you turning purple :shock: I was telling my father in law about this and he really gets a kick from taking the mickey out of me especially when i have a go at handy work but he usually ends up worse off. This time i completely got laughed at :evil: i'm gonna have to make an appt to see ya varmint :P I'll give it another 20 bunnies or so then i'm coming up to see ya :D
bubo

Sean
03-06-2005, 11:26 AM
Get an old hose pipe and cut a 2 foor section, then slice along the tube in one cut, stick it in your bag, then when you find a barbed wire fence you need to climb you take the pipe out and put it on the fench, could save your manhood!

Mary Quite Contrary
03-06-2005, 02:12 PM
Get an old hose pipe and cut a 2 foor section, then slice along the tube in one cut, stick it in your bag, then when you find a barbed wire fence you need to climb you take the pipe out and put it on the fench, could save your manhood!


But you could just take down the fence and rebuild it by the time you have this thing on.

A Friend has a nylon version of what you talking about. It takes him half a day to attach it to the barb wire.

Sean
03-06-2005, 02:59 PM
a rubber pipe to put on the fence takes about 3 seconds to put on and take off again :O

Mary Quite Contrary
03-06-2005, 03:47 PM
a rubber pipe to put on the fence takes about 3 seconds to put on and take off again :O


prefer bareback myself

ColdZero
03-06-2005, 04:41 PM
i actually saw a piece of fabric for sale in one of those free magazines to put on barbed wire fences...£20!, i have never seen he difficulty, a falconry glove is useful though for a high fence

Ian Wileman
03-06-2005, 06:44 PM
Take the leg off an old pr of denim jeans, put it in your pocket, game bag, vest etc. Place it along barbed wire fence and climb over. £20? I dont think so.

Sean
03-06-2005, 06:59 PM
the fabric will get all caught up on the wire tho while rubber will just slide off

Ben C
03-06-2005, 07:30 PM
You bunch of poofs. If you were strapping young gents, with country adventure in your blood, you could leap any fence and land next to the milkmaid, who would then gladly pump your lump for juice.

I say this from experience and not from falling headlong like a **** over ANY wire fences EVER.

Saving that get yourself a mini copter and just shoom over any objects in your way.

Ian Wileman
03-06-2005, 07:31 PM
The fabric will only get caught up in the wire if and when you make a hash of getting over, otherwise it isnt a problem. I have used this method and it is fine. Good thing is it is eas carried, easy replaced, AND you dont look like a weirdo carrying a hose pipe round with you. lol.

Ben C
03-06-2005, 07:34 PM
Wileman you cheap skate...............build a gate on you earnings!

Ian Wileman
03-06-2005, 07:35 PM
I like poofs. I us strap ons with young gents, with country adventure in my pink hood, I could leap any fence and land next to the farmhand, who would then gladly pump my lump for juice.

I say this from experience and not from falling headlong like a **** over ANY wire fences EVER.

Saying that I have got a mini chopper and just shoot over any objects in my way.

OH MY GOD!!!! Sick

Ben C
03-06-2005, 07:40 PM
The fabric will only get caught up your crack....OOOHHH thats good. If you make a hash cake I'll have some to let my sphincter relax bitch. Otherwise it isnt a problem getting it deep down my neck. I have used this method and it is fine. Good thing is it is easily hidden from the law and easily replaced or else I'd lose my job. AND you dont look like a weirdo carrying a hose pipe round with you because in broadmoor they all do HONEY. lol.

Watch out fellas there is a nutter about!!!

Ian Wileman
03-06-2005, 07:43 PM
The fabric will only get caught up your crack....OOOHHH thats good. If you make a hash cake I'll have some to let my sphincter relax bitch. Otherwise it isnt a problem getting it deep down my neck. I have used this method and it is fine. Good thing is it is easily hidden from the law and easily replaced or else I'd lose my job. AND you dont look like a weirdo carrying a hose pipe round with you because in broadmoor they all do HONEY. Watch out fellas I'm on my way!!! Birthday bash? Birthday bonk more like.......I'm loving it!


Does your mum know you get up to this Benc?

Ben C
03-06-2005, 07:50 PM
[/quote]Does your mum know you get up to this Benc? Because if she doesn't please let that fat grease ball chew my hairless winky. I.....I....I just LOVE YOUR MUMS HAIRY BACK BEN.....please don't tell anyone about my desires....but last week I drank the slurry from an ill donkey. I smeared on my chest as I ripped its throat out, just for you and your MUM Ben......................................I wish I had a friend[/quote]


Eeeeer a doctor please!!!

Ben C
03-06-2005, 07:54 PM
Anyone ever read William Burroughs, Ian we could become cult classics at this rate. :D :) :o :mrgreen: :minigun: :rip: :rock: :snipe: :trans: :ctf2: :chain: :ctf: :gib: :finga: :bear: :tonqe: :vom:

HawkMan
03-06-2005, 08:06 PM
Benc you may swing to the left side but dont be trying to chat me up ya puff
As for mental asylums you cant beat them everyones got a different story .
Been there had the tea shirt
im ok now ask ian ,lol

Ben C
03-06-2005, 08:13 PM
Well JB I may have a little job for you mate.........strictly underground mind!!!!!

Wightwings
04-06-2005, 09:29 AM
RPMSL.........soo what about the top tips then........ :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kornie
04-06-2005, 11:15 AM
AHA Ian, I caught you at it!

Ian Wileman
04-06-2005, 01:20 PM
AHHHHHHH Ian! I caught herpes, you should avoid me, I am a twatty little shi te!

Well you said it Kornelious

Kornie
04-06-2005, 04:26 PM
Ian mate, did you ever get round to that picture of trinity?

Ian Wileman
04-06-2005, 08:00 PM
Sorry mate. Not yet. I am up the wall with commision work at the moment. People wanting Hares, whippets, Border terriers, and even, believe it or not, Elephants and giraffe. I will eventually get round to drawing a harris, whether tiff or not, just dont hold your breath. Actually, strik that last one, DO hold your breath......please!!!

OutFlying
04-06-2005, 08:25 PM
Top tip, always check your transmitter and fine tune it on the receiver to the strongest signal before you fly every time, before letting the hawk go free. Also when tracking your hawk, alternate the yaggi between the horizontal, vertical and 45 degress and find the strongest signal.

OF.

ps top tip, don't let a gyspy tarmac your drive :cry:

Finnish
04-06-2005, 08:28 PM
ps top tip, don't let a gyspy tarmac your drive


Nice one i'll bare that in mind :lol:

Ian Wileman
04-06-2005, 08:55 PM
Top tip....dry out your used herbal tea bags, that way, if you are ever visited by very small neighbours or fairies you will have little tiny cushions for them to use, making them feel comfortable throughout their stay, and the add advantage of masking any bottom smells they make (always embarrassing) with the herbs inside.

HawkMan
04-06-2005, 08:59 PM
Learn to spell ya muppet ,(top tip )

Ian Wileman
04-06-2005, 09:04 PM
Hi Johnny. I have just been talking to someone on here who reminded me of a certain photo we were sent, of a certain Mod. I was also reminded of something you said......now what was it? Oh yes..................I would ???????????

P.S. I made a typo....you made a booboo! What was it......you would ?????? her? I am sure that was what you said?

Wightwings
04-06-2005, 09:16 PM
top tip Johhny.........DONT even think about it you devil worshiper you..........i wouldnt WITH YOURS mate.........

OutFlying
04-06-2005, 09:26 PM
:lol: :shock:

Kornie
04-06-2005, 09:31 PM
top tip Ian, you more or less spelled it out to the forum, suffer the wrath!

HawkMan
04-06-2005, 10:04 PM
ian to be honest m8 you suggested you fancied her and i went a long with it (guys the truth is out ian loves debs ,tla

Ian Wileman
04-06-2005, 10:11 PM
erm.....I dont remember saying any names Johnny. You must have had Debbie on your mind.....again.

Kornie
05-06-2005, 11:27 AM
Johnny your such a stud mate,

Wilfred
05-06-2005, 11:57 AM
Well..im just reading this threat and do not know whether this was mentioned...but I read some year ago on the internet about a falconer in the USA who drove to his hunting grounds once (some hours away) and then when he wanted to start hunting he figured out he did leave his bird at home.

So maybe the tip would be to better stay at home then.

Ian Wileman
05-06-2005, 12:02 PM
Top tip.....ladies, save your stockings when the have ladders in them. This way, when very small people visit your place and you are decorating, they can use th often frowned upon 'ladder' as an aid to getting to those out of reach places with a paint brush and therefore help you decorate your pad.

Ben C
05-06-2005, 12:20 PM
Ian, put the old copies of VIZ down and get on with the OFSTED stuff, you are putting off!!!! ITS TOMORROW MATE!!!!! I bet you wish you hadn't had that last pint now don't ya!!!!!

North East Harris Hawker
05-06-2005, 12:22 PM
top tip.
always get your work done before monkeying around on the internet
this way you are more likely to keep your job.
8)
ian you have pm

Ian Wileman
05-06-2005, 02:01 PM
Top tip.....dont worry about Ofsted insection from a pile of doddery old farts who have not been in a classroom for ten years and no nothing about todays kids. Worry more about whether your kids think you are cool and therefore work hard in lessons for you. After all, we teach to educate rather than teach to impress a load of old farts dont we?

Ian Wileman
05-06-2005, 02:01 PM
P.S> Lee you too have PM

Wightwings
05-06-2005, 02:03 PM
ian you have pm

P.S> Lee you too have PM

TOP TIP..............homo alert................. :shock: :shock: :butthead: :butthead:

HawkMan
05-06-2005, 02:03 PM
Ian you couldnt impress a girl in a knocking shop

Ian Wileman
05-06-2005, 02:06 PM
Eh Johnny, you are forgetting, I have seen your face....and vomited from the experience (As has your wife and kids), so you have got no room to talk stinky pants.

Ben C
05-06-2005, 02:18 PM
Eh Johnny, you are forgetting, I have seen your face....and it made my tiny button mushroon hard with anticipation and longing for the day would could be together.....I love you Johnny you BIG BRITISH BULLDOG YOU !!!


Deffo Homo Alert!!!!!! :D :D :D

Wightwings
05-06-2005, 02:23 PM
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: well i never did........ :shock: :butthead: :butthead:

Ian Wileman
05-06-2005, 02:24 PM
Eh Johnny, you are forgetting, I have seen you painting you face for Benc....and it made his tiny button mushroon hard with anticipation and longing for the day you and he could be together.....He loves you Johnny you BIG UGLY BULLDOG YOU !!!


I admit I am a Homo!!!!!! :D :D :D

Finally out the closet eh Benc!

Wightwings
05-06-2005, 02:25 PM
double :shock: :shock: :shock: ..................................... :lol:

Ian Wileman
05-06-2005, 02:26 PM
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: well i never did it twice in one day, but eh Benc, you want to try I am more than willing sexy........ :shock: :butthead: :butthead:

Does your missus know?

Sean
05-06-2005, 03:39 PM
top tip, dont let a bunch of farts **** up a good thread lol

Wightwings
05-06-2005, 04:11 PM
top tip, let a bunch of experienced worldywise gents liven up a dull thread lol


aah thanks Sean :wink:

Sean
05-06-2005, 04:18 PM
:roll:

Tim Laycock
05-06-2005, 04:19 PM
top tip, dont let a bunch of farts **** up a good thread lol[/quote]

Pmsl :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

top tip, let a bunch of experienced worldywise gents liven up a dull thread lol

Rpmsl :lol: :lol: :lol: :rolleyes:

HawkMan
05-06-2005, 04:44 PM
Let there be war the winner has the hand of debs ,
She looks like tubs off the league of gentlemen ,pmsl

Ian Wileman
05-06-2005, 04:49 PM
Thats a bit off dont you think Johnny. Poor Dubs, I mean.....Tebbie...Doh!

HawkMan
05-06-2005, 04:50 PM
And you wileman look like her hubby ,local shop for local people ,pmsl

HawkMan
05-06-2005, 04:51 PM
Im leaving this topic now to the men ,im a lover man not a fighter .
May the best man win wileman

Tim Laycock
05-06-2005, 04:57 PM
:shock: She looks like tubs off the league of gentlemen
Seriously??

Ian Wileman
05-06-2005, 05:08 PM
Im leaving this topic now to the men, i love men in tights, May I find one for this evening

:shock:

Wightwings
05-06-2005, 05:22 PM
LMFHO......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ian Wileman
05-06-2005, 05:25 PM
Lick My Fu~#in Hairy Oraffice......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pervert

Tim Laycock
05-06-2005, 05:44 PM
Oh Good Grief! :lol: :rolleyes:

Wightwings
05-06-2005, 06:02 PM
Oh God Oh God Oh Gooooood :tonqe: ! :lol: :rolleyes:

dont YOU start.

Kornie
05-06-2005, 09:46 PM
you guys scare me, maybe there should be a section for out of control threads? Then all the threads you guys seem to turn on there heads can have a proper home...

Wightwings
05-06-2005, 10:16 PM
they do have young man its called ...THE FALCONRY FORUM....... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :finga: :finga:

Kornie
06-06-2005, 10:52 AM
Andbeleive me wightwings, it would no be the same without them :D

Harris.Hawk
06-06-2005, 03:46 PM
[quote=Ian Wileman] Eh Johnny, you are forgetting, I have seen your face....and it made my tiny button mushroon hard with anticipation and longing for the day would could be together.....I love you Johnny you BIG BRITISH BULLDOG YOU !!!


Top tip...
Dont go hawking with Ian! At least dont bend over to pick your bird up off a kill!! :butthead: :butthead:

Ian Wileman
06-06-2005, 06:37 PM
Top tip...
I want to go hawking with Ian! At least I want to bend over to pick my bird up off a kill and hope he rogers me silly!! :butthead: :butthead:

You sick freak....I am calling the police!!

Ben C
06-06-2005, 06:59 PM
Top tip...go hawking with Ben! He is the best, much better than Ian and the rest of them. Well done Ben you are a GOD amongst us mere mortals!!!

Why thanks! Do you hear that everyone, thats straight from the Harris' mouth. :D :D

HawkMan
06-06-2005, 07:42 PM
Top tip (never go hawking with wileman )
Ive been there had the experience and ended up with a severe stutter believe me ask darren

Ian Wileman
06-06-2005, 10:43 PM
Top tip (never go hawking with wileman )
Ive been there had the experience and ended up with a severe stutter. I just couldnt get the words out. He truly is a beast master. Ferrets, hawks, tigers if he had one, and my god those muscles. He is a sexy bitch, thats why I advise him not to post a picture of himself on here, all the girld would be gagging for him, especially Falcon and Debbie! They would both want him soooo bad they would not get anything done. Honestly, he is a god amongst us all, bow down and worship the Wiley......we're not worthy, we're not worthy. I worship the ground he walks on. Believe me ask darren

Erm Johnny, take it easy mate, I will go hunting with you next season (errghhhh......huuuuuunting!!!!), but people will talk if you dont control yourself.

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2005, 12:01 PM
Never monkey around with peoples quotes, cos really its telling fibs... :wink:

do you think so ian?
pmsl :lol:

Ian Wileman
07-06-2005, 12:17 PM
Never monkey around with other peoples balls, cos really its perverted.

I dont think so ian! :evil:

yes well, each to their own I suppose.

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2005, 12:23 PM
I monkey around with other peoples balls, cos really its perverted.

really ian? :evil:

yes well, each to their own I suppose.

your words mate... not mine!
pmsl

HawkMan
07-06-2005, 06:32 PM
Top top (never eat yellow snow )

Kornie
07-06-2005, 07:05 PM
ROFLMAO! nice one nehh

Ian Wileman
07-06-2005, 09:28 PM
Rip OF Loads of My Awful Old clothes and roger me sensless please! nice one nehh

Oh, so thats what it stands for Kornelious. I get it now, AND it all makes sense :!: :idea:

North East Harris Hawker
07-06-2005, 10:09 PM
Rip OF Loads of My Awful Old clothes and roger me sensless please! nice one nehh

Oh, so thats what it stands for Kornelious. I get it now, AND it all makes sense but will NEHH roger me senseless too?:!: :idea:

sorry boys but im washing my hair tonight :?

Kornie
08-06-2005, 10:48 PM
ian, find someone else mate, I dont succomb to your pier preassure!

Ian Wileman
08-06-2005, 10:56 PM
Who said you are one of my peers Kornelious?

Ben C
09-06-2005, 12:26 PM
How did the ofsted go the wileman?........Did you boff any of the old crusty *******s to get a better mark mate?? :) :) :) :)

Harris.Hawk
09-06-2005, 12:37 PM
Ian, you crack me up man!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: