Squirrels/Squirrel hawking [Archive]

Tiercel78

29-11-2004, 03:35 AM

Ok, Ruger(My new 900gm tiercel RT) is now 2-0 with another (huge) female Grey squirrel. Had squirrel in about twenty mins of being out in the lot. Would of had it sooner but the squirrel bailed almost on top of the sponser and when Ruger went into his dive he had to try and miss the sponser aswell. Squirrel ran back up dead tree all the way to the top. Ruger re-positioned himself and the squirrel made a mistake by trying to jump to the next tree. Ruger caught her in mid jump and came straight down. I rushed in to secure head. The squirrel managed to scrap/nic the upper tarsus(Not Bad).I cleaned up and with a little Iodine,bactodermand plan on putting a little taller anklets on tomarrow. His footwork on squirrels is preatty good, always places feet on upper part of squirrel. It's just one of those things that happen while flying at squirrels. I belive that this Eastren bird was hunting squirrels in the wild before I ever trapped him. I have pictures but waiting on a picture transfer cable to download them. Anyone know how to post pics on here.-Zach

North East Harris Hawker

29-11-2004, 05:14 AM

well done with the squirrel! chop your photos down to 35% if they are taken on a 3.1mpix camera and click on add attachment, select the pic and post! its a doddle! keep up the good work with the bird 8)

IAmTheWeasel

07-12-2004, 05:30 PM

I caught 22 fox squirrels, 2 barn owls, 1 copper head snake and 1 rat this season from September 14th to November 29th when my bird was killed. Hope to get a few more with the new bird once she gets goin.

IAmTheWeasel

07-12-2004, 07:17 PM

Here is a picture of me out killing fuzzy tree rats.....

Bash

07-12-2004, 07:28 PM

2 Barn Owls!! :shock:

You hope to get a few more of what? Not more Barn Owls I hope?

What a nice advertisment of American Falconry. :roll:

IAmTheWeasel

07-12-2004, 07:54 PM

Both owls where taken at the NAFA meet in Kansas and no....they where NOT an intended quarry. One survived and one did not....The group of harris hawkers nearby to us flushed up 10 barn owls while hunting...Lucky the HH's didn't take any of them.

Bash

07-12-2004, 08:56 PM

Hmmm. If that is the case why publish the fact that they were taken? I sure wouldn't advertise the fact that my hawk caught such an unattended quarry if I wasn't hunting for them.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that they were caught accidentally but it still came across to me that you seemed to find it acceptable to highlight the fact that they were caught as if to add them to your tally.

Anyway on a different note. Lovely picture and your bird looks gorgeous. Pity you lost her. How was she killed?

Gaz

07-12-2004, 09:19 PM

will give you the benefit of the doubt that they were caught accidentally

Dont bother,i was with him and his wife Mel at the meet and saw both taken,the first in the morning was attended by a vet,the second i myself confirmed with Noel that it was dead,being smashed full pelt by his red in full flow straight through the cannister and as an advert for american falconers...he and Mel are a couple of the best "adverts" America could want....belive.I dont want my birds taking squirrels...they do it..its added tothe quarry list..i dont want um taking moorhens..they do it(i like coots & moorhens..big softy in i?)dont want um taking little owls..they do it..because there pinging fit and hunting,just like Noels bird was..sheeeit happens...p.s. the bloke was gutted about the owls,i know,"cause i was there. :mrgreen:

Bash

07-12-2004, 09:33 PM

It just seemed strange to add them to the tally if he was gutted about catching them. I thought it a reasonable question? It is after all just my opinion so I'll leave it there.

IAmTheWeasel

07-12-2004, 09:43 PM

So Bash, If your bird(assumeing you are flying one right?) catches a unintended quarry you pretend it didn't happen? Isn't that a bit like lying to yourself? The way I look at it is my bird will be released back into the wild someday and everything she catches is somethink that will aid in her survival and this makes me happy. The fact that some of these kills are something I didn't want doesn't mean they didn't happen. That's my opinion....
My bird was killed on a transformer in Garden City Kansas during a Jackrabbit hunt at the meet.......maybe I should count that as a kill too.... :roll:

Bash

07-12-2004, 09:48 PM

IAmTheWeasel

07-12-2004, 10:38 PM

No I don't pretend it doesn't happen and it does happen. I just wouldn't add it to my personal tally or advertise the fact to all, especially on a forum that will be read by anti's. I find it worrying you find it acceptable.

Why is that hard to understand?? :?Bash.....I'll let you in on a little secret....Raptors kill things!! Doesn't matter what it is.....Are you trying to say that they would be mad at an owl and not a duck?? I think you being rude and ignorant to the fact that my bird caught something....Plus your starting to sound like a hipocrite....You make it sound like the anti's diferentiate between one quarry and another. There is a group of folks out there who dislike bunnies being killed, so should I not say that my bird catches those to? Give it a rest man, as you have a moot point that you are trying to uphold and remember, I posted it to a thread that asked what falconers have caught!!!!!

BrianM

07-12-2004, 10:48 PM

i can see where both you guys are coming from but i am afraid that i am leaning to agree with bash on this one,, we all know **** happens in the field but i dont think we need to advertise the fact that mistakes are made..

Bash

07-12-2004, 10:53 PM

Hey! You think I'm being rude and you question whether I fly my bird right? oh please! In no part have this little debate have I been rude to you or started to call you names. I have just put forward an opinion. Don't start calling me a hipocrite just cause you don't like my opinion.

Whether you like it or not antis will find YOU catching owls unacceptable. They may not like you catching bunnies but we have argument to do so as they are considered vermin whether your an anti or not. Owls are not vermin and as such would be considered inappropriate to hunt by the antis. I'm not saying you do hunt them but they can't understand this, the fact you caught one and advertise the fact will be just cause and ammo for their fight.

Another fact for you. Antis do differentiate between quarry! The more fluffy and cute it is the less acceptable it is to kill.

You "give it a rest man" as my opinion is just as important as yours and it may help if you READ my posts to stop me posting the same thing over and over again. I can't believe you find this so hard to understand?:evil:

Isaac

08-12-2004, 01:13 AM

I don't think he meant to catch the copperhead snake or the rat either but he put those on the list too...Accidents happen. I'm sure Bash knows that when you fly a raptor completely loose you don't have control of what it kills. Iamtheweasel was just stating what his bird killed, accidents included. It sucks that it was another beautiful raptor and it sounds like he was upset about it but what can you do. Its been posted now, nothing anyone can do about that. Neither one of you needs to get your feathers all ruffled.
Just tryin to keep the peace... 8)
-Isaac

Bash

08-12-2004, 12:05 PM

I do understand that accidents happen and we except them. Posting your tally of hunting kills on a forum for discussion with other falconers is also a great idea and is not in question.

I have only questioned whether it was sensible to post the fact that Barn Owls were caught and added to a tally of kills as if they were meant to be part of a total head count.

We all have experiences of antis and know how irrational they can be and was only trying to make the point that advertising the fact of these particular kills on a forum for every one to see is in my opinion a little irresponsible.

Anyway, points have been made on both sides so I hope we can leave it now and still be friends. I'm sorry to hear what happened to your bird Iamtheweasel, I have known a number of falconers who have lost birds in that way and it is most upsetting. I hope you get your new bird soon and get back at it. Are you going to trap another Red?

IAmTheWeasel

08-12-2004, 02:05 PM

My bird was killed on a Friday and I trapped a new one the following Sunday. It's real easy to trap around my area as the reds come here in force throughout the winter months.

BrianM

08-12-2004, 02:14 PM

hi weasel ... i like the look of your bird... also tell me more about fox squirrels as ive never heard of them before ....any pics... we only have greys here.. and reds are very very rare

Bash

08-12-2004, 03:05 PM

My bird was killed on a Friday and I trapped a new one the following Sunday. It's real easy to trap around my area as the reds come here in force throughout the winter months.

How is it coming along? Do you fly specifically at Squirrels with your Reds?

IAmTheWeasel

08-12-2004, 04:11 PM

Here is a picture after a hunt out at Gary Brewers place. The two squirrel heads and tails on the left are from Fox squirrels and the one on the right is from a grey. The Fox squirrels are about 1 1/2 times the size of grey squirrels. they can get up to 3 lbs in weight. Hunting the fox squirrel is a bit different than the greys as they don't bail out of the trees as much as the greys will. Fox squirrels will stand there ground and even try to bluff the hawk by charging at it. The worst thing about them is the bites. They have huge teeth and do alot of damage with a properly placed bite. My sponsors RT had the extensor tendon severed in the small toe. It was surgicly re-attached and works fine now. The squirrel chaps we use have saved our birds from lots of bites over the years and it shows. If you examine an old pair, you can see the teeth marks in them!

IAmTheWeasel

08-12-2004, 04:28 PM

The new bird is coming along OK so far. Just trying to get her to drop a little weight as she is pig fat at the moment and unwilling to do anything but bate. I have a log of her progress so far in the diaries section under "the new monster"

Bash

08-12-2004, 04:40 PM

My God!! They are BIG Squirrels and sound as hard as nails! :shock:

IAmTheWeasel

08-12-2004, 04:59 PM

Most falconers around here avoid hunting the fox squirrels as they are pretty nasty but it is gaining favor with a few folks who like the 3D flights on them. Here is a picture of Gary Brewer letting his RT go for the hunt in east Texas woods.

Bash

08-12-2004, 07:11 PM

Sounds like interest sport weasel! Pictures are great. As you know, our squirrels are alot smaller but I have always tried to aviod them for the very reasons you've said. Can't imagine what it must be like going after the monsters you have, I guess the birds are more adapt to them as they are passage birds.

Kornie

08-12-2004, 08:36 PM

Caught a grey two days back. Quite fast, the harris raced after it down the tree along the ground and nailed it. I can imagine some interesting flights but I still think a flight at pheasant in a heavily wooded area is fantastic, watching them race through bracken and nipping in and out of trees.

Back to the squirrel got in their quick and the ****** bit me. I felt the preassure through the glove and Trin rearranged her footing and got it by the head.

I heard of black squirrels, do you take them in america?

IAmTheWeasel

09-12-2004, 12:27 AM

That's funny, the only black squirrels I've ever seen was in London in Hyde park. The grey squirrels are faster than the fox squirrels. We have several other species around the country. We only have three here in Texas ....The fox, cat and flying squirrels.

North East Harris Hawker

09-12-2004, 04:38 AM

is there any chance of a close up photo of the chaps you use on your birds?

Sniper

09-12-2004, 10:15 AM

When either a redtail or harris binds with a a squirrel, does in come back down to terrafirma or does it usually stay high in the tree?

Yager

13-12-2004, 12:02 AM

hey quick question for yall, is squirrel hawkin just for a female RT or can someone use a male ive herd they can and ive heard they cant so i wonder what yall think
thanks

Jay

13-12-2004, 05:09 AM

Males are great squirrel birds. I am flying a male RT right now and have killed 3 so far this season with him. A friend of mine down in RI flew a male last season and took 99 squirrels with him. So yes they are quite good for squirrels. But I feel chaps must be used with them even more so than females, who should have them as well. When flying with a male you will witness a totaly different flight style than a female. The males are much more aerial while the females will use their brute force to get them.
But this is a question I hear all the time and it is still a usless question. People want to trap a female for certan things and a male for others when in reality you are most likly going to keep the first bird you trap regarles of sex and fly it on the same game. This is unless you are very lucky and have a large enough population you can pick and choose from at will. Dont worry about the size of your bird, worry about how you are going to get it, care for it, and train it.

Shaun Byrne

13-12-2004, 07:37 AM

Got some photos of the chaps I was talking about earlier but they are too big. I will mail them to HM if thats ok and he can post them. Thanks in advance HM.

Hawkmaster

13-12-2004, 04:28 PM

No probs Shaun, here they are for all to enjoy! :lol:

Shaun Byrne

13-12-2004, 04:38 PM

Cheers Hm you're a gent, my mate does these at £20 a pair. They are the removable type with eyelets already fitted. Sorry about the pics he did them in a rush last night.

Adam Barrett

13-12-2004, 06:49 PM

do they cover the full length of the toe?

Shaun Byrne

13-12-2004, 06:54 PM

Yes BW, the disk part can be trimmed back to suit, they are made a bit wide so you can adjust to your own bird.

IAmTheWeasel

13-12-2004, 07:34 PM

Those look a bit different that the ones I'm used to, but they look like they will work just as well. Here is a picture of some of Gary's chaps

Shaun Byrne

13-12-2004, 07:40 PM

Nice, the chaps my mate makes are from a design on one of Garys videos. I've seen them field tested and was surprised at the amount of bite marks on the false toes!

Adam Barrett

13-12-2004, 07:41 PM

i think a mix of both designs would be best one that oes higher up the leg and with the disc design and false toes of hawka's-
do the gary brewer style chaps work wll i have just made a pair

IAmTheWeasel

13-12-2004, 07:45 PM

These are what Gary calls his latest and greatest chaps. It's the ones he sells now. I was thinking about adding some "toes" to it for a little extra protection.

Shaun Byrne

13-12-2004, 07:49 PM

Maybe I'm wrong then mate, I know he got the design off a video and I know he has "Squirrel Hawking" by Gary so I've put 2 & 2 together and got 7 lol!!

IAmTheWeasel

13-12-2004, 07:50 PM

I have seen these chaps take dozens of nasty bites that would of been a toe if the chap wasn't there. I will NOT fly without them. I flew a friends bird on squirrels this weekend and the bites on the front of the chap looked nasty and would of resulted in quite a bad injury had it not been for the chap.

IAmTheWeasel

13-12-2004, 07:53 PM

Maybe I'm wrong then mate, I know he got the design off a video and I know he has "Squirrel Hawking" by Gary so I've put 2 & 2 together and got 7 lol!!Nope, Your right. He has used several different designs of chaps through the years. The one on the video is an older style of his. There are several other styles of his chaps on the web site of Manny Carasco's. Just type in Squirrel Hawking on the web search and his site should come up.

Shaun Byrne

13-12-2004, 07:53 PM

I had my FHH to the vets tonight for a check on her bitten leg, Ok but still not fully healed after 3 weeks. I'm going to get the Reds out this weekend and murder a few of the furry little monsters!!!

IAmTheWeasel

13-12-2004, 09:22 PM

Hahaha !!!!!! GIT ER" DONE!!!!

Yager

13-12-2004, 11:45 PM

well here in OK we have RT's everywhere its not hard to find them so ill probably trap a few birds to find the best pick but anyway thanks for posten kinda off subject but how do you all feal about bells on your hawks ive herd they can get your bird caught in a tree but its a pian to hunt without them what do you all think

oh i see we have a Larry the Cable guy fan here

Mr. Fong

14-12-2004, 07:57 AM

What the hell is this Russia?????

Tater Tot

North East Harris Hawker

14-12-2004, 08:18 AM

Jay

14-12-2004, 10:23 PM

What kind of moron wouldn't use bells? If they are fitted correctly they shouldn't get caught.

Adam Barrett

15-12-2004, 02:38 PM

if your worried about leg bells getting tangled up go for a tail bell instead.
most people i know wouldent dream of flying without bells the only exception possibly being owls.

Hawkmaster

15-12-2004, 04:47 PM

What kind of moron wouldn't use bells? If they are fitted correctly they shouldn't get caught.

Somone that is half deaf? Seriously! 8)

Sharpster

07-01-2005, 07:15 PM

:? any of you HHawkers got experience of MHH taking squirrels?whats your verdict?!cheers

Adam Barrett

07-01-2005, 08:04 PM

My female hh took a squirrel before i realised the danger i spuirrel hawking now she is obsesed with them took another two this week-couldent stop her tho.

yea they may be a hell of a lot easier to find than rabbits but do you think your bird is worth more than a handfull of dead tree rats.

i suppose it is how much that bird is worth to you if you only see it as the couple of hundred quid you bought it for then i suppose you could easily replace him but if you think about all the time and effort that you have put in to the hawk-your friendship and partnership that you have with the hawk in my view its just not worth it.

sorry to go on :lol:

Sharpster

07-01-2005, 08:59 PM

cheers you guys,ive taken them with a redtail a good few years ago.she made them look easy!also with a gos,but you've confirmed what i thought-really!i've got a young HH'that im trying to get entered.he had a great attempt at an airborne duck,but i'm struggling to find bunnies(at least until pheasant season over!)
but tree rats seem to be everywhere!& its been gutting to hold him back from such ''easy ''targets!! thanks again chaps,i'll keep using my common sense!

Adam Barrett

07-01-2005, 09:31 PM

i know what your thinkin mate i started the exact same thread just about two weeks ago.

once he is up in the trees there is nothing you can do about what he is gonna chase so if your flying frequently in a area with squirrels id use some squirrel chaps.

Sharpster

07-01-2005, 10:11 PM

what,wide ,thick anklets?(i hadnt found this site 2 wkks ago!)i think they may be a gd idea,but maybe best wait till i can get on some land with plenty bunnies & get some experience u nnder his belt.
frustrating as thought id got hold of more land before i got him,but now pheasant season underway-they're all a bit paranoid!fairplay tho'
anyway-baywinghawker,tell me what you know?!

Chris S

07-01-2005, 10:24 PM

them tree rats are nasty bas***ds harris hawks seem to get bitten quite alot i only use my redtail for this kind of hawking as they seem to be better footers than hh and he has never been bitten an he has killed about 45 of them yet my mates fhh cought one this week and has 5 bite marks on her feet and had to go to the vet.
best of luck

Sharpster

07-01-2005, 10:38 PM

thats it!i'll just keep holding him back!!cheers dudes!maybe we'll find something less dangerous tomorrow!

Hawkmaster

08-01-2005, 01:26 AM

THREAD MOVED FROM BIRD TALK TO THE QUARRY FORUM :lol:

IAmTheWeasel

07-02-2005, 08:23 PM

Sorry, I didn't see the replies to my posts back then. Here is a picture of some squirrel chaps that are shiney and new.....

Coedhirion

07-02-2005, 11:07 PM

Coedhirion

07-02-2005, 11:14 PM

There is a guy her in GB makes super squirrel chaps. removable lining etc plus nice shiny studs. The studs attract squirrel to bite at the chaps so the theory goes. The toe protectors are pretty neat too.

IAmTheWeasel

08-02-2005, 06:18 AM

No offence, but I was NOT running out with glee to trap another bird after mine was killed. As you said, I spent hundreds of hours training and hunting this bird, so I was most certainly not happy to have to do it again....It's called getting back in the saddle again....the quicker, the better. .....and I most certainly was not trying to boast that my bird caught barn owls....In fact I was quite upset that it happened.....but it DID happen without my help. I most certainly won't pretend that it didn't happen as they took there toll on my bird too with their talons. Barnies are protected here as are all Raptors, but I guess the RT didn't read the regulations......I rehab many birds of prey and certainly don't want to see this happen anymore than other falconers out there. So, please don't insinuate that I happily go about killing birds and trapping new ones with no respect for the previous bird. I was VERY upset about my RT that was killed at the meet and still think about it almost every day. Oh, and it wasn't a list of "kills", it was a list of catches....One of the barn owls is back in the wild happily flying around as barn owls do.
Cheers,
Weasel

Shaun Byrne

08-02-2005, 07:41 AM

Can understand people not liking to see Barn Owls on a list of kills, they are protected here in Brittan and not very common. Maybe things are different in Texas. Must be cos if my bird got killed on a Friday I sure wouldn't be rushing out with glee to get an other that quick... Sorry may be its cos we cant trap them in GB but a lot of us get ...well a bit sentimental over our birds, all those hours manning, training, flying, you cant help getting attached. Unless its just a female thing, dont think so tho having heard a man sobbing down the phone when he lost his falcon on power lines!!!

We 've had all this once already C. You dont really think Weasel was glad to nail the owls do you??? I've unfortunately seen little owls, Tawney owls and Kestrels taken in the field, its sad but it happens. Sometimes they can be released unharmed sometimes not. Do you think a big FRT would think twice about nailing ANYTHING in the wild if it had chance??

On the subject of losing birds, I myself and numerous other falconers I know have lost birds due to accidents, power lines etc. Yes, you do get attatched to birds and it sickens you to see your hunting partner killed in such a way. Life goes on and falconry is in a falconers blood, it may be a day, a week or a month but you ARE going to get another bird and you ARE start the cycle over again.

If you truely think Weasel or any other Falconer on here has such little regard for nature or their birds, why not PM them and give them your opinion and let them give you theirs??

Claire

08-02-2005, 10:23 AM

i think most people who hunt with anybirs have had the expirience of catching something that they wish they hadnt. the harris at the centre i worked at caught a barn owl although luckily it survived, you cant tell your hunting bird what to catch lol

ChicM

08-02-2005, 02:16 PM

I'm with H4wka and Weasel on this issue too. My first FHH was killed in an accidental overdose of a vetinary drug administered by a very respected falconer. I was gutted and confess to blubbing like a baby when I saw her lying there lifeless. But I got another hawk within a week.

I don't think that a mourning period is at all appropriate: it's a sport/folk-art we practise (altho some would have it as a religion) and they are birds after all, not family.

All credit to Weasel for getting back in the saddle I say.

And as for accidental kills - it happens.

IAmTheWeasel

08-02-2005, 02:47 PM

Ya know what's odd.....when my bird was killed, it was the first time I shed a tear in as many years as I can remember........ :?

Jay

08-02-2005, 07:03 PM

I would agree that hunting is more accepted here in the states, I actualy haven't found a state that most people are against it..... except my own. Here in my state most people dislike hunting, but dont feel it should be totaly ban. That is why I try to stay away from the public view as much as possable, lots of people dont mind, but I dont want to deal with the ones that do. I have had two reporters want to do articles on me and my bird but I have turned them both down, because I dont need the attention of the large anti-hunting population in my town. Latly however I have moved to more urban hawking areas, but with a bird that follows well it isnt to bad, when I go behind the hospital here I dont dress in my hunting gear, just a glove with lure and tidbits in my pocket. To most I just look like another weird kid in the back feild climbing trees.

When talking to faloners or those that know the sport I will mention EVERYTHING my bird gets, as they understand that my bird doesnt read the regs. But when approched in public I usaly leave out the fact that my bird kills rabbits, I just tell them mice and squirrel. Its all they need to know, and these are two creatures I have gotten very few negitive reactions about. Hey it lets the public know that I do hunt with this bird as it would in the wild, but no need to tell them about the cute little bunnies I kill.

And on the topic this thread is about I got myself squirrel #6 yesterday. First kill since the blizzard that dropped 30" of snow, bunnies still are not moving yet. I was out in a spot I have been hunting for the last few seasons, but hadent managed to get anything from. The bird was lower than I really wanted, but still fine to fly. So as soon as he had laddered up a good deal I start climbing the first tree, about halfway up the bird came and crashed the nest and out came a bushy tail. He made one nice flight at it and missed, then just sat there. I was ****ed thinking he was to low and wasnt going to bother anymore, instead he had learned how the squirrels in this area ran for cover. He just sat there and as soon as the squirrel started coming down this fallen tree they always take he went off after it and nailed it in the middle of a 15ft open area of ground that they always run across to get to a tree with a hole. I was there 30seconds lader to put the squeeze on the squirrel, not that it needed it, he had both feet right on the head as soon as he hit. From the time I put the bird up to kill was at most 3min. Transfered the bird off and contunied hunting for 2 more hours without flushing even a mouse.

Gaz

08-02-2005, 10:03 PM

Must be cos if my bird got killed on a Friday I sure wouldn't be rushing out with glee to get an other that quick.
I was with Noel (Weasel) & his wife Mel in Kansas and was how he & Mel felt that day,if you saw,you"d know how stupid your post is......if that was "glee" i"d hate to see um upset.....Noel &Mel,we will sink a few in Vernal with y"all,in honour of your bird....GIT"ER DONE :!:

Finnish

08-02-2005, 10:07 PM

Well said Gaz :wink:

Coedhirion

09-02-2005, 12:40 AM

Sorry, maybe it was just the way the post came over about losin a bird one day an gettin an other a couple of days later.

IAmTheWeasel

09-02-2005, 12:57 AM

Gaz, I will look forward to seeing ya'll in Utah!!!! I can't wait ! I'll bring a ton of beer and hopefully Chris will be there too! Is the whole crowd coming from last time?

Shaun Byrne

09-02-2005, 07:03 AM

Gaz, I will look forward to seeing ya'll in Utah!!!! I can't wait ! I'll bring a ton of beer and hopefully Chris will be there too! Is the whole crowd coming from last time?

Yeah! But they're bringing some class with them this time 8) :D

Bubo

09-02-2005, 08:26 AM

Hi I personally think it was the way weasle came across too! like jay says some people just need not know and i think for a couple of people on here that is just the case!! I must admit i was knocked back a little when i read 2 barnies in the count. Maybe just use a slightly different wording that is all it takes to keep the heat down. I am sorry to hear about your bird though.

Gaz

09-02-2005, 12:17 PM

More or less Noel yes....Finnish aint comoing though...cant stand the pace :!:

Yeah! But they're bringing some class with them this time
As for this,we appologies beforehand,but every village has one...and we"re bringing ours along this time :butthead: :mrgreen:

Shaun Byrne

09-02-2005, 12:48 PM

Yeah!! AND I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THIS VILLAGE!!!!

Gaz

09-02-2005, 06:56 PM

:supz: :butthead:

IAmTheWeasel

09-02-2005, 07:20 PM

Well, Remember that Utah beer is weaker than other states(Mormons) So I'm making sure to get all I can with me for the trip.......I may have to leave the birds here so I can fit all the beer...... :partyman:

Shaun Byrne

09-02-2005, 07:24 PM

Class!!! Shame it wont be good old Brit beer instead of all that chemical brewed stuff!! lol!!

ChicM

09-02-2005, 07:27 PM

I have a confession to make, something that I've lived with for too long now and I just have to get it out in the open: I actually LIKE Bud Lite...

There. I've done it. I feel so relieved to have come out.

Please don't think badly of me because we all have a right to be whatever we want to be.

I'll say it again: I LIKE BUD LITE.

And I'm not ashamed...

Shaun Byrne

09-02-2005, 07:29 PM

Like I said Chick, good old Brit Beer like, Bud and Miller!! lmao!!

ChicM

09-02-2005, 07:35 PM

Shaun - I thought I recognised a kindred spirit. We can all tell you know...

Shaun Byrne

09-02-2005, 07:38 PM

I just wish I knew where I could get a crate of Duff!! lol!!

IAmTheWeasel

09-02-2005, 08:31 PM

hahahaha....Ya'll are cracking me up! :D I can and do get the good stuff on occation, but it is pricey when I but the British and German beers here. I'm partial to a good Strongbow cider after a succesfull hunt...ummmm...and after an unsuccesfull hunt......yeaaaa.... and any other time for that matter.....But usually the wife will buy me a four pack of them on the way home from work if I kiss her arse enough.

Wilded

10-02-2005, 03:54 PM

I will trade all the Bud lite and Miller you want for some real beer.

ChicM

10-02-2005, 05:33 PM

Place yer orders Wilded - I'll be in Houston from the 28th and I'll bring y'all a case!

Wilded

10-02-2005, 05:54 PM

Houston is only 3.5 hours from here.

Gaz

10-02-2005, 06:04 PM

Houston is only 3.5 hours from here.
GIT"ER DONE!! :mrgreen:

Shaun Byrne

10-02-2005, 06:04 PM

You can drive for 3.5 hours and still be in the same state???? I can drive across England in that time lol!!

Wilded

10-02-2005, 06:21 PM

You can drive 70 miles per hour for 10 hours and still be in Texas. Remember we were once a Republic. Texas is a whole nother country. I was lucky to be born American, By the grace of GOD I was born in Texas. I have been to England and Scotland and found you have better beer than we do. I took lessons in Sporting Clays Shooting to get certified in instruction from the British Clay Pigeon Shooting Assossiation from Roger Silcox of The Winchester shooting club in England. If you get my way I am flying a new passage red tail and we will take him out for a spin.

Gaz

10-02-2005, 06:24 PM

Remember we were once a Republic
Mexican aint you :?: :mrgreen:

ChicM

10-02-2005, 06:26 PM

Now Gaz...play nice... :D

3.5 Hours Wilded...just like being on Beltway 8 in rush hour!

Wilded

10-02-2005, 06:52 PM

Remember we were once a Republic
Mexican aint you :?: :mrgreen:

Nope, English-German with a small amount of Cherokee,Commanche and pure mean Texas cowboy. Of course my English Great Grandfather says the Commanches were just blood thirsty horse thieves. Wish I could speak spanish though. The Germans and English had settled Central Texas long before the Mexicans came and took over. We only let em stay for a few years before we sent em back to mexico. Now they are invading again. We have decided to let Noel Murphy stay as he wasn't born here but he got here as soon as he could and married one of our girls.