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Afshimo
31-12-2004, 03:18 PM
(not my bird, but for once he's a this-years bird, 2004, for people who read this tomoro lol)

30/12/04

AIM: To keep Skyes on the fist for over 15mins

Arrived home, got the boxed bird out. The useral bating around, waited till he calmed down abit then, but him on my fist. Talked to him whilst he put his feathers away, then moved over to the perch. Bated. Put over perch. Managed to tie the leash on, just as i was to plower him onto perch, he bated again. Didnt want to wreck his tail feather, so i let the leash go, stood up and scarpered. Was about 5m away, stood there till he went back on the perch, then I went to make sum more leashes.

Half our later, went back out, siddled upto the bow perch, with Sykes making small bird noises, waited till he'd bated and climbed back up, took hold of the jesses, managed to get the longest talon off the perch, he was unbalanced, so he put one foot on the glove, I started to gently pull up gently, so he put his other foot on, put jesses into safty, changed the leash (old one too hard - needs cleaning!) then looped around little finger. For about an hour, I kept walking him on my fist, then back on bow perch.

(Went on falconry forum for a while, starting to get dark now)

Back outside, I keep on talking to sykes, say hello and stuff like that, he's making his squeak noises still. Put some newspaper in his mews box, set the indoor bow perch up, put the radio on, the heater (make sure it works, starts working if it gets below -5 d c.)Same routine, wait 5mins for Sykes to settle. I'm using the new glove, now starting to look more used lol. Manage to grab the jesses, Sykes didnt like it - threw a wobbler by jumping up and down on the glove, being grippy, shouting and hanging upside down. Waited till he's calmed down abit, he regained the fist. (yes!!) Put in the box, didnt want to perch on the bow - no worries lol. Left him, came back upstair's.

Came back (can't keep away), peeped through the door, can see him sitting there daydreaming, with his while, fluffy chin at angle and the peacefull expression. Aww. Went in quietly, sat next to the box and a watching Sykes. Kept on talking, him looking at me and squeaking still. (no change) Off to dinner

Last time I will handle him now, I open the garage door, let Brandy (our cocker spanial) poke his head through. Skyes just watched, and fluffed out like an owl, no noise, left it at that for the first time intro to the dog. Went back in, more talking, up on the fist, no bates this time, def getting better, but the box does help calm the bird and make training quicker and less stressfull. Wa;ked upto kitchen window,let sykes look though there, opened the kitchen door, long bate. Waited till he calmed down again, took some time, then move into the dinning room/manning room. Got a piece of plastic on the wall for long-shots (eg harris hawks, commons, reds ect) and news paper (eg falcons, small owls ect)Wasn't to shure with Sykes. Sat there for an hour and a half, heavy bird, so I borrowed a walking stick to rest my arm on. Sat there drinking coke and opening chocolate bars one handed (how fun lol)Was there for about 2 hours, better leave it at that, before I went back outside, stroked his chest and top of beak, upto cere and forehead. Wasn't to stressed with that. Back outside, cover over and I'm watching more T.V lol.

AIM: Achieved

31/12/04

AIM: Get a weight recording, give him a bath, and feed off fist if poss!

This is gona be fun, Boxed him up, he's fine with boxing, pack leashes and creance, meat pocket, mobile, keys and money. Got the wooden box this time (too heavy lol) so borrowed the garden centre's big trollies, went round the back - gates locked! Rats! I remembered they'd hidden the keys for me to get in, open up and put the birds out! grr, got the bird in box out, pushed the trollie up, got Sykes out, went round the edge of the lake, Syked a few times, almost got me in the lake (edges covered in mud) Got round, opened up, got in, found spare bow, next to hose pipe, put the multi hose thingy on, turned to "shower", let him get abit wet, turned on the cone, the did the feather (primaries and tail) turned to mist, did his feat, top of his head and chest. Picked up, 2 bates, then back on lawn to bask in sun.

Did my jobs, volunteer witht the flu at home, did another set of jobs. Got back out with sykes, walked him around the flying field, then onto a private field (with permission) let him look around, put him on post, picked him up again, no baiting so far. Watched from a distance some pick-ups going past with plants, put him on the spare bow, asked if the guys would let the engins run whilst i let sykes have a look and get used to the noise. Then they trundled off, Sykes seems confused. Back into centre, did the flying display, 2 harris, 1 bengal, 1 european, 1 jackal buzzard, 1 ferrug. Most are on the creance, only 4 birds flying free, the rest just needed some training. Finished flying, washed the meat bags, put on side to dry, joked in mess room for 10mins, nice cuppa tea2!

The big bit now, Sykes is to be weighed! Never done this before with him. Put scales at my height and in light so I can see the result. Lowered him on, he's suddenly gone shy! grips nice and tight, so I tease one talon and he hops off, and jumps up and down, then settles. The reading is 2lb 10 1/2. Reasonable.

Put in box to come home, get a spare bow, "T" stand for flying and chicks, quail, rabbit and beef. Dad comes in car, get packed and home. Spare bow on lawn, he's enjoying it, rope this time. We swap the perches round every now and then. He's got a plastic one. Thas as far as, will let you know if he feeds off the fist!

Hannah

(too long to check, so if i done something wrong - try working it out lol)

HAPPY NEW YEAR!




Afshimo
31-12-2004, 06:03 PM
Just let Sykes see the dog in full - wow! Full hakcles, mouth open, wings down. You can tell he's got the ferruginouse in him, the eagle look, and the red tail, the grip and biggish feet. He's so beautifull, got silver eye's, yellow feet, white chin, coffe coloured chest. Mottled wings, deff a bit 50/50 with the red/ferrug. Temperment is pretty good too, throws wobblers at most things, but is calming down. Not eaten off the fist, but looked keen. Well, I'll try tomoro.

Hannah

Hawkmaster
31-12-2004, 06:14 PM
Would be nice if you threw some piccies up too Hannah, well done and keep it coming?

Paul
PS I will move this to the diary thread, instead of general falconry

Afshimo
31-12-2004, 07:34 PM
Thanks for that hawkmaster,

pics will be up ASAP!

Hannah

The Late Lord Lucan
31-12-2004, 07:45 PM
I'll be interested to see how this bird turns out Hannah.
A friend of mine had one of the very first Ferrutails bred in this country. She was a very pretty bird & very big, huge in fact. Off the fist, she was lightning fast, she seemed to catch up with everything really quick.
We came to the conclusion she was long sighted or boss-eyed :lol: , because after she'd caught up with everything very quickly, she proceeded to bury herself into the patch of ground right next to where the quarry was!
She caught a few bunnies, but even after a few seasons work, she never really cut the grade......sure she was very quick, just for some reason, not very accurate!
Hope yours does better.......keep us all informed.

Regards,
Lucky.

Afshimo
31-12-2004, 09:08 PM
Oh yeah, got another q's, how much would a male and female ferutail cost? i got told males were £200?

Hannah

Afshimo
01-01-2005, 10:23 PM
01/01/05

He's been so much better today! Got dropped off, unloaded the box, went to the gate and checked my bags for the keys! No Keys! S***! So I put the box on a log, got Sykes out, hid the box in the tree's, and got in the back way. Sykes was patiant, didnt bait, seemed happy to see me, but gripped hold onto the perch (no change there) Walked around to the mess-dek as its called, long, wood cabin with heaters, stuff to make cofffe and tea etc (bliss lol) For loss of a better idea, I put Sykes on a bow perch to settle for anit, and checked up on the birds. The bengals are on another egg, but the male hasnt been doing his job, so it will prbebly be infertile.
All the birds seem ok, so I got Sykes, walked him round the aviaries, then sat back in the mess dek with the heaters low. Played with his feet, he will now allow me to touch his wing butts, beak, chest, thigh's, bit tetchy with his keel though stil, and with his feet, depending on his mood.
Put him on the scales, 2lb 10. Lost 1/2oz, not bad considering it was a mild night over here.Soon as Mal came, put him down, got the other birds out on the lawn, to enjoy some fresh air, wash down the mews, la de da etc.

Over the day, picked him up, put him down, he wil still bate, but he does calm down quicker, regain the perch, then you gota pursuede him to get on the glove. I really like this new glove I got, I can feel were he is, and he prefers this one to the older orange thickie. Fed the birds up, check up on them, check the locks, put the bows and blocks away, then back home.

Things still going quite smoothly. He's accepting the dog better, not so big a crest on him. He's being nice and gentle, except when he bates, both me and Mal can see he's gona be a good bird, hopefully flying at 2lb 6, with some aggro there, so watch out rabbits! I think he's doing display work for half season, then its fitness, then hunting. Lucky sod lol.

Back in the house for 4 hours. Watch a veriaty of films, some of the guns in one scared him. He's letting me tickle his ear now, which makes most birds sleepy and relaxed. He got so relaxed almost fell of the glove! He's a real nice bird once you get past those talons (massive) and feet (stocky and big) and the beak (hmm - ouch!) Thankfully he hasnt bitten me nor foot me, so that does make a change.

Todays review, to AIM today, won't be till he starts feeding off the fist, but he has a few ounces to loose first.

All the best,

Hannah

Afshimo
01-01-2005, 10:26 PM
Photo's coming tomoro. Putting them onto floppy as I cant use the network cable, gone funny! oh well, they WILL be up tomoro! not very good I admit, but got a nice foot one lol, see how big they are!

Hannah

North East Harris Hawker
01-01-2005, 10:43 PM
looks like you are doing really well there hannah 8) are you really only 14?

Afshimo
03-01-2005, 06:50 PM
:D He's done it! Sykes finally ate off my fist! His weight down to 1lb 14, he looked ready for the chick, had it on the glove, he watched it, still squeaking. Then I moved it on to my lap, he still had an eye on it, so I ripped a leg off, ran it over his beak, then put it by his feet, he bent down, and gulped it down! So I put the rest of the chick on the glove, he took hold of the head and gulped the whole thing down, guess he is more like a ferruginouse then I first though. I am soo happy now lol, I think I took his weigh down much too low, although he is showing no signs of being low, so I might give him 2 chicks tomoro, put my mind at rest. So yeah, I'm happy :D . Sykes is too :D , he had his chick, and is being quieter. I guess he must be hungry and scared if he's squeaking at me. He's more settles, will let you touch him pretty much,all though he still doesnt like crowds and dogs, but I will work on that one. He's scared of doors too, well most things that move, so It's gona be my job to settle him. See you,

A very Happy Hannah :)

Afshimo
03-01-2005, 06:54 PM
NEHA: Yeah, I am pretty sure I am only 14 lol.

Oh yeah, i HATE floppy disks, I HATE stupid network connections, and, oh yes! I can't get the photo's up! So I've no idea when I can get the pics of him up, but I got my dad (seriouse nagging) to do something about it! Its driving me NUTS!

Now a very STRESSED Hannah!!!!!!

P.S - GRRRRR!!!

Sparrow Hawker
03-01-2005, 08:42 PM
Hi,

Well done Hannah, he's coming along really well.

All The Best,

HH

Kevin Massey
03-01-2005, 08:50 PM
cant fault this u know,
if you are having trouble resizing the pics mail them to me and ill do it and post them up for ya.

kev

Afshimo
03-01-2005, 09:02 PM
Hiya, its not nessessesarily the resizing, main thing is I cant get to them, will have to go on dads comp to saort it, so will have to wait till dads gone out or something like that. I will go on and e-mail the pics ASAP.

Thanks for the nice words Andy, HH, Mass.

Hannah

Afshimo
07-01-2005, 08:28 PM
Hiya, good news! Picys!!

Managed to dodge the system...have a look and enjoy!

Afshimo
07-01-2005, 08:29 PM
hang on, gona make it bigger!

Afshimo
07-01-2005, 08:32 PM
Big feet!

Afshimo
07-01-2005, 08:32 PM
grr, need to resize lol

Afshimo
07-01-2005, 08:42 PM
here we go...

Lanner Nut
07-01-2005, 09:10 PM
good going hannah

Afshimo
07-01-2005, 09:11 PM
Full pic of when he first arrived, look threatening lol

Afshimo
07-01-2005, 09:14 PM
sry, but I can't really ge the pics on there, so u cn c em anyway lol. I'll keep messin around with it

Afshimo
28-01-2005, 09:09 AM
Hiya,

I've been manning him at the centre, got him at a nice flying weight 1lb 13 1/2 and he's pretty responsive at this. Flying full creance regulay now, trying to pursuede him to follow on next, much harder than a harris, hits the glove abit hard too. He's not footy at all, even if I have food in the bare hand, he waits till it's on the glove and snaps it up.

Also, I am manning a male finnish gos, not weighed him, but he's ,uch better. Only problem is he bates when he's on the perch. So half the time, I am manning him, walking in the field at the back of the house, he's become a real nice bird. He was nicknames Phsyco, guess I have to change that. He's having bout 4 chicks a day, 5 on cold nights, also rabbit, quail and beef. he doesnt seem to fussed on the quail, but goes mad over rabbit. Might try getting his weight down and start jumping etc, then he goes back to his owner boo-hoo lol.

C u l8r
Han

Afshimo
25-05-2005, 10:56 PM
Hiya,

Thought u might want an update...

He is now flying at 2lb 2 or 3, quite responsive and the best bird I have flown so far!
He's amazing the way he fly's, heavy from the ferug, but nimble like the red. He always try's to fly his best in all weather, and can handle wind like no-ones buisness. He is more of a womans bird, as I am the only one who fly's him, and he works hard for me, but acts lazy for eveyone else (he he!)
I took for a fitness flight before, I worked him up the mud mounds, flying about 4m vetical heights bout 10 times, then coming up hills 5 times, then full 50m from one side to other of the field. He worked real good! he went for a magpie sittin at one end of the field, but i just shouted and he turned and came strait back to the fist. He's started gainin some height, and stopped being the lawn mower.

If peple are looking to get a fru-tail, I know that a male wont dissapont you, they are built and look more of a gos, but diff colour and a difficult temperment. They are trusting and can be gentle, and love to be with you in the sun or just sit on the ground. I spent about half an our with me lying on the grass and him 2m away sunbathing. Top hybrid birds and worth every penny! They are quite vocal for some reason, start of squeakin like a red then like a ferug as they relax.

Fru-tails rock! :)

OutFlying
25-05-2005, 11:20 PM
Has it been entered yet ?

Afshimo
26-05-2005, 10:56 AM
no, but he soon will be! Prob rabbbit or even a pheasant lol.