Falconry with Bicolored Hawk (Accipiter bicolor)

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Hello friends

For many years I have been flying aplomado falcons, Harris, and other birds, in the last five years I have been flying Bicolored Hawk (Accipiter bicolor). there is some falconer of this forum that this bird has been flying. I am wanting a lot to change experiences.

Jorge

[Darren]

what a beautiful bird, i have never ehard of it before...tell us more about it & your hunting with it. it does look a bit like a goshawk

[Hawkmaster]

Lovely looking little hawk what is the flying weight?

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Hello

The Bicolored Hawk (bicolor Accipiter) it is one of the four species of Accipiter that happen in Brazil. Besides Accipiter bicolor, we have Accipiter poliogaster (that would be the Brazilian goshawk), we have the Accipiter erythronemius (Brazilian version of the Accipiter striatus) and Accipiter superciliosus (their smallest).
Bicolored Hawk is a predator of birds, among all your qualities I detach a tremendous speed when leaving of the fist and a courage without limits.
This prey of the previous picture, the heron, had the double or more of the size of Accipiter, but he attacked her without hesitating, for many times I arrived at the place of the combat to help Accipiter and observed the heron trying to harpoon with the beak.
This bird of the picture was a name female Luma, and in the first season I flew her for the traditional method, flights to the fist, food in the fist, etc but I had to fly with a higher weight, 370 grams, because she demonstrated a certain aggressiveness. In the second season it includes some details of the method Mc Dermott, to eat in the soil, not to feed in the fist, to eat small pieces in the lure, and I got a radical change in the behavior and gradually I got to reduce the weight. With 340 grams it attacked any bird of your size or little larger. Ducks, herons, and other more.
Unhappily it contracted aspergilosis and in one week she died.
I flew a male weight of flight 198/200 grams for the method Mc Dermott that hunted sparrows and other little birds in areas of urban parks in Rio de Janeiro.
Now I don't reside more in Rio de Janeiro, I reside in another state Minas Gerais, and I am in the initial phase of training of a male of Accipiter bicolor.

There is two article in the magazine American Falconry on Accipiter bicolorof my authorship.

Excuse the bad translation

Respectfully

Jorge

[IAmTheWeasel]

I have those issues of American falconer that include your stories. This Bi-colored sounds very much like our coopers hawk and looks alot like it to. Great stories in the magazine too!
Cheers,
The Weasel

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Ok Weasel

Some authors in some books say that Accipiter cooperi, Accipiter bicolor, Accipiter gundlachi are originating from of the same biological branch.
I think they have a lot of Cooper´s Hawk, but people that the two species already flew say that Accipiter bicolor possesses a temper a lot, a lot, much better than Accipiter cooperi.
I, unhappily never flew an Accipiter cooperi, in Brazil they don't happen, to have a personal opinion, but people that flew or they saw the two species in field they say that Accipiter bicolor has a temper very better.

Jorge

[IAmTheWeasel]

Wow...That could be something very interesting to try hawk with. I wonder if any breeders are in the US with Bi-coloreds

[Hawkmaster]

Jorge are there other falconers in Brazil that fly these?

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Inside of the USA I don't know any creator, but with the ability and knowledge that the north American falconers has to reproduce your birds, this would not be great difficulty.
Here in Brazil I intend to begin this year the creation in captivity of Aplomado Falcons (Falco femoralis) and Bicolored Hawk (bicolor Accipiter).

Jorge

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Hawkmaster

Unhappily not. In Brazil I am the only to fly and to hunt with Accipiter bicolor. In spite of everything in neighboring countries to Brazil as Peru and even in countries of Europe as Spain exists several falconers flying Accipiter bicolor and we have been changing very interesting information.

Jorge

[Hawkmaster]

What do the other falconers fly?

[SparsTheOne]

what a stunning little hawk,i dont think theres much chance of getting hold of one of them in the UK,and if you could it would cost a bomb.
i,ve never seen one of these in the fresh but all the ones i have seen in books and magizines there been the most beautiful hawks i,ve ever seen.
keep up the good work and good luck with all your birds.
i hope to read more about your hunting trips,pictures too hopefully.

cheers jase.

[Wightwings]

fantastic thread and a fantastic looking bird

thanks

[Shaun Byrne]

A good tempered Accipiter, put me on the waiting list lol!!

[BrianM]

jings thats a lovely bird .........

[ChicM]

I'm just amazed that it tackled a heron at that weight! It's lighter than my male HH and I wouldn't want him to go for a heron (yet...).

Thanks Jorge.

[Darren]

i have checked on the web & there is little info about thiss bird

[Jastreb]

Jorge welcome!
Brilliant hawk and photos!
I saw bicolor only once in one old "The Austringer" number, and from that time and didn't find nobody to hawking with bicolor.
Are you flying imprint or pr, and will you do AI or you will put pair together?
Viktor

[Jay]

Great pics and great bird, I have also read your aricles in American Falonry. Glad to have you here on the board

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Hello friends

Here in Brazil, besides Bicolored Hawk (Accipiter bicolor) we flew Harris´s Hawk (Parabuteo unicinctus), Aplomados Falcons (Falco femoralis), American Kestrel (Falco sparverius), Peregrine Falcon (Falco peregrinus tundrius), Roadside Hawk (Buteo magnirostris), White Tailed Hawk (Buteo albicaudatus), and Sharp Shined Hawk (Accipiter striatus erythronemius).
Some other species are used with falconry techniques seeking rehabilitation and introduction in the habitat natural non falconry, like Ornate Hawk Eagle (Spizaetus ornatus) Black Hawk Eagle (Spizaetus tyrannus), Savanna Hawk (Buteogallus meridionalis), White-necked Hawk (Leucopternis lacernulata), Barred Forest Falcon (Micrastur ruficolis), Collared Forest Falcon (Micrastur semitorquatus), Crested Caracara (Polyborus plancus).
With relationship to the temper all the Bicolored Hawks that I flew were nestlings in several degrees of age, the ones that got with the ideal age I applied the method Mc Dermott, the others were flown by the traditional method. Some of them, birds imprint, demonstrated a certain aggressiveness most of the time due to the fact of eating in the fist, aggressiveness due to territory or something like that. I never flew Bicolored Hawk passager, or haggard, but information obtained by falconers of countries as Argentina, Chile and mainly Peru demonstrated that this bird possesses a good temper compared mainly with other Accipiter with Accipiter cooperi.

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Hello friends

Before everything I want to thank to all the nice and very friendly reception as I was received by all of this forum, a lot, thank you very much.

Yes it is really impressive the capture of these preys, they weigh from 550 to 800 grams, while the female of Accipiter bicolor that I flew called Luma it weighed 340 grams, it is really fantastic.
IMPRESSIVE SCENE: When arriving in the place where the preys were, a small concentration of swamp vegetation, that was in a small sea space, the concentration of herons and other birds were impressive. I arrive of surprise without doing noise, as soon as the birds see me, I cause the panic, the herons of several species, begin to flee, producing an incredible noise with your hoarse screams of panic. This excites the predator, the escape of your preys. Luma, already experienced in these hunts part of the direct fist for the vegetation, it flies low close to the soil and it penetrates in the swamp vegetation, I see many preys they flee, but I don't see Accipiter, when of I see a heron that begins to win height flying, and suddenly, appearing of the vegetation of the swamp, Luma, a tiny creature appears if compared with the prey that flees, as a guided missile, she enters in the back part of the prey trying to get right with the claws the base of the wings or womb, the two rotate in the air and they are going in direction to the soil. I am already running to help my dear bird. When falling to the soil, the battle is violent, it doesn't last one minute, the heron wanting to harpoon Accipiter and the hawk wanting it had held the head of the prey. When it doesn't get Accipiter soon it flies for a close tree, the heron still with fear of Accipiter she doesn't take off, when I arrive I cause a new panic and the heron takes off again and Accipiter invests again, and this time I am close to help.
Although I mention herons the preys they are known in Brazil as Savacu and they belong the species Nicticorax nicticorax and Nictanassa nictanassa scientifically.

Excuse all bad translator

Jorge

[IAmTheWeasel]

Wow! that's a fantastic list of hawks you guys can fly....I would give an arm for the chance to fly an Ornate Hawk eagle. They cost us about 10-15 thousand to buy. Any chance you can elaborate on the white tailed hawk as we have them in south Texas too.

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

ChicM, Jastreb, Jay, Viktor, thank you.

Viktor, intended initially we try the natural reproduction and later AI.

All the birds that I flew were imprint, using some the method Mc Dermott and other for the traditional method.

Jorge

[ChicM]

I'm not up on the latin names but that looks like a night heron she's got? Impressive kill and very well described Jorge.

[Hawkmaster]

Great pictures Jorge! Lovely little bird too. How far are your slips at the herons?

[Wightwings]

wow great great read jorge and dont worry about the translation it adds to story.

Looks like you are having a super time. We never get weary of seeing pictures and reading posts like that. many thanks i look forward toyour next ones. :D

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Hello Iam

Here in Brazil to hunt with White Tailed Hawk is not easy, mainly because we don't have abundance and means of finding rodents as rabbits and hares that perhaps are preys more appropriate for these birds.
Here we make escapes of preys as pigeons, where we removed several primary and they have been having success in the capture. Some hawkers tried the introduction of White Tailed Hawk (Buteo albicaudatus) in the hunt of some herons using escapes, but it has not been demonstrating a lot of interest.
These birds have been hunting some snakes, lizards, some rodents savages of intermediate size among mice and rabbits that we called in Brazil of Preá (Cavia).
A falconer my friend that White Tailed Hawk flies (Buteo albicaudatus) it flies a female imprint that when we will visit him we are going to the field, arriving there he loosens your hawk, her name it is Shelda, and it is a Show. After to lift flight and to look for the thermal currents he wins height, at the same time this friend hawker Ronivon Viana, in the fire to be in the shade of a tree and there we make a picnic, we talked, per hours, an or again, Ronivon, seeks your imprint hawk inside of the thermal ones, only to confirm of your presence, after some hours, when we intended to leave, he is going to the center of the field and he whistles, a long whistle, beats twice with the hand in the glove and your Buteo it dives in a direct surprising flight for your glove. Before we didn't locate Buteo among other birds to hundreds of meters and quickly she arrives in the fist. It is a fantastic bird.
In Venezuela this species of Buteo has been hunting many rodents mainly rabbits.
Recently in a visit to Brazil the falconer Bob Dalton of England found this fantastic bird and he said that was probably a bird with potential for practices of falconry to rodents as rabbits.
I motivate it all those that can this Buteo to fly to know of your potential Real.

Jorge

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Hawkmaster

It distances of Accipiter for the preys in the hunt throws they are varied

We can sometimes approach lowered without leaving that notice us in a small hill to surprise and to ambush soon in a small vegetation space I lower, where it passes a course of water of the sea or even of river. In this situation we arrived in a superior height, we caused a panic of the preys in an inferior height, they begin to fly terrified among the vegetation wanting to flee, this everything, panic, the screams of the prey, the non visualization of the total size of the prey flying among the vegetation, this everything stimulates Accipiter that almost immediately part to the attack. It distances it of these throws it has been around 40, 50 meters.
Some other times, we found some places with some trees, in places flooded, perhaps due to rain, in the middle of the field to 100 or 150 meters of the beach. In these places when the prey flees her to try to go in direction to the sea, great extensions of water do with that Accipiter loses the interest. In this situation the throws happen in an it distances around 60, 70 meters, and Accipiter it tries to impede that the heron arrives the beach or to the sea, is a persecution of who can more. The heron tries the beach in any way to arrive where great sea extension does with that escape of the attack and Accipiter tries to arrive before. Independent of course of everything we have to run and a lot to arrive together in the moment of the capture and to help Accipiter.

Jorge

[BrianM]

first class posts mate... well done

[Hawkmaster]

Very cool looking bird:

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[CastleFalconry]

Wow, looks like a Spar cross Harris, with a bit of redtail thrown in. God, imagine that in one bird!

Beautiful looking. Has anyone seen these in the UK? I want one already!!!!

[Gaz]

Very cool looking bird:
Yeah it is....he still aint gonna send you one though...so stop it,no,be told :tonqe: :mrgreen:

[BrianM]

i think your at the back of the que castle,, we ALL.want one now lol

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Wightwings

Thank you

Jorge

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Hello to all , thank you AndyUK

Another detail of Accipiter bicolor is that once introduced in the hunt he continues attacking a variety of varied preys from Campo Flicker (Colaptes campestris) until the herons (Egretta, Nicticorax, Nictanassa) etc. If we are flying a small male of bicolor Accipiter we also can hunt of sparrows to pigeons, or Common Gallinule (Gallinula chloropus), what is a lot a variety, very great birds.
Thank you very much Mc Dermott for the teachings in your excellent book IMPRINT ACCIPITER (version in English) and AVES DE PRESA DE BAJO VUELO (Spanish version)

Jorge

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[IAmTheWeasel]

Heck we have White tails here and we stil can't fly them..... :cry:

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Yes Iamtheweasel, but you have best Buteo that Red Tail Hawk exists (Buteo jamaicensis), that with certainty has a much larger potential than White Tailed Hawk (Buteo jamaicensis).

:wink:


Jorge

[Peregrynne]

Anybody for a quick move to Brazil? Sounds like they have too much fun flying all those birds and need to share with the rest of us. :wink: :P :wink:

Jorge it has been extremely enjoyable reading all of your stories. Please continue to post them when you have the time. Contiued luck in all your flights.

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Thank you Peregrynne :D


An attack and three captures:

This throw was one of the most surprising, similar attacks only saw in the video Hawking the West with Falco attacking ducks.

I sought some preys without anything to find until that I saw some pigeons that will land at the beach, Luma my female of Accipiter bicolor also saw and I left that it went to the attack, she left strong of the fist, but she doesn't sweat her maximum speed, arriving at the beach, around 40 pigeons took off the bicolor it accelerated the flight and it attacked, the panic was so big that two pigeons dove in the water as if they were ducks, the bicolor failing the first attack redirected the flight and it captured one of the pigeons in the air will land at the beach. While the bicolor dominated the prey the other two pigeons they left the water swiming, being captured to put me with the hands without problem, because they were wet.

Jorge

[Shaun Byrne]

Sounds like a good flight Jorge, shame you didn't video it!

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Hello H4wka

I have some videos of my Accipiter but all of the bird in the daily activities in the perch, placing bell in the neck, and I have some filmings of the bird flying, but you throw unhappily of capture I don't have none. Different from what it happens with Falcos, where the dog shows the prey, we loosened the falcon, or be we prepared the scene, the show to film, Accipiter is different, when you think about filming everything it already happened, I would have to hire a professional in filmings, besides the friends that went with me in the field always had a bird on the fist that hindered the filmings.

Jorge

[The Late Lord Lucan]

savages of intermediate size among mice and rabbits that we called in Brazil of Preá (Cavia).

mmmmmmmm........yum yum.........GUINEA PIG.... :lol:

[Jorge Sales Lisboa]

Yes, Lord Lucan, but savages

Jorge